WEBVTT 00:00:02.090 --> 00:00:05.427 A peaceful Thursday evening turns deadly 00:00:05.510 --> 00:00:08.263 when a desperate husband calls police. 00:00:08.263 --> 00:00:10.098 His wife had not returned from dinner, 00:00:10.140 --> 00:00:11.599 and he was very worried about her. 00:00:11.683 --> 00:00:13.852 We kicked the door. 00:00:13.893 --> 00:00:15.937 We walked to the rear bedroom, 00:00:15.979 --> 00:00:18.857 and we knew then we had a double homicide. 00:00:21.568 --> 00:00:26.614 What kind of monster would kill somebody like that? 00:00:26.614 --> 00:00:28.616 Suspicious clues at the crime scene 00:00:28.616 --> 00:00:30.618 lead to more questions. 00:00:30.702 --> 00:00:33.913 You could tell by the way the hand was positioned, 00:00:33.955 --> 00:00:35.290 it was planted there. 00:00:35.331 --> 00:00:37.333 The week before the murder, 00:00:37.417 --> 00:00:40.503 five employees had got threatening letters. 00:00:40.587 --> 00:00:43.048 Detectives zero in on a prime suspect 00:00:43.089 --> 00:00:45.425 as a solid motive reveals itself. 00:00:45.467 --> 00:00:48.595 They changed their life insurance plans. 00:00:48.636 --> 00:00:51.848 The killer outfoxes the law for a decade 00:00:51.890 --> 00:00:53.808 then strikes again. 00:00:53.850 --> 00:00:56.311 It was just horrifying for us to think, 00:00:56.311 --> 00:00:59.481 "He did this and got away with it?" 00:00:59.522 --> 00:01:01.608 But it's the victim's family 00:01:01.649 --> 00:01:04.444 that finally brings out the truth. 00:01:04.486 --> 00:01:08.156 We had more discovery power than the police did. 00:01:09.574 --> 00:01:11.159 I believe he would have done this 00:01:11.201 --> 00:01:13.036 repeatedly throughout his lifetime 00:01:13.078 --> 00:01:15.038 had the detectives not stopped this. 00:01:31.346 --> 00:01:34.057 For over a century, Atlanta was considered 00:01:34.099 --> 00:01:36.559 the embodiment of the "Old South," 00:01:36.643 --> 00:01:39.395 evoking imagery of antebellum balls, 00:01:39.479 --> 00:01:43.525 sprawling mansions, and southern elegance. 00:01:43.566 --> 00:01:46.736 But by the 1990s, the city has claimed its position 00:01:46.820 --> 00:01:50.406 as the beachhead of what many call the "New South," 00:01:50.490 --> 00:01:52.784 experiencing an economic renaissance 00:01:52.826 --> 00:01:56.371 fueled by high-tech and aerospace. 00:01:56.412 --> 00:01:58.540 There was a lot of tech back then, 00:01:58.540 --> 00:02:00.959 IBM, Hewlett Packard, EarthLink, 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:02.919 a lot of the beginning Internet companies 00:02:02.961 --> 00:02:04.379 had a large presence here. 00:02:04.420 --> 00:02:07.132 Those new companies really created 00:02:07.215 --> 00:02:11.094 a new financial boom for Atlanta. 00:02:11.136 --> 00:02:12.262 And one of the towns 00:02:12.303 --> 00:02:14.556 exploding with the economic surge 00:02:14.556 --> 00:02:18.476 is the once quiet Atlanta suburb of Marietta. 00:02:18.518 --> 00:02:21.271 Marietta in 1996 was a growing, 00:02:21.312 --> 00:02:23.648 bustling, suburban town. 00:02:23.690 --> 00:02:26.985 The biggest employer in Cobb County is Lockheed Martin. 00:02:27.026 --> 00:02:29.112 Lockheedites, we called 'em. 00:02:29.154 --> 00:02:30.738 And they were all well-educated. 00:02:30.738 --> 00:02:34.742 They were sophisticated people, made a lot higher incomes. 00:02:36.327 --> 00:02:40.707 But on the humid night of June 13th, 1996, 00:02:40.748 --> 00:02:44.085 one of those affluent engineers at Lockheed 00:02:44.127 --> 00:02:46.462 suddenly disappears. 00:02:47.338 --> 00:02:49.591 I got a phone call from a patrol officer 00:02:49.591 --> 00:02:52.510 telling me that this gentleman John Peek 00:02:52.594 --> 00:02:54.470 was reporting his wife missing. 00:02:54.554 --> 00:02:56.764 He told me his wife's name was Carol Marlin. 00:02:56.848 --> 00:02:58.766 His wife had not returned from dinner, 00:02:58.766 --> 00:02:59.851 and he couldn't reach her, 00:02:59.893 --> 00:03:01.269 and he was very worried about her. 00:03:01.311 --> 00:03:02.645 And they looked at the timing, 00:03:02.729 --> 00:03:05.773 and she was only an hour and a half late. 00:03:05.815 --> 00:03:07.859 Told him that certainly wasn't missing persons. 00:03:07.901 --> 00:03:10.862 They advised him to hold on, see if she arrives. 00:03:13.948 --> 00:03:16.618 Couple hours later, Peek had called again 00:03:16.701 --> 00:03:18.745 and said there still was no word. 00:03:18.786 --> 00:03:20.788 We got a lot of possibilities here. 00:03:20.788 --> 00:03:22.582 Missing person cases 00:03:22.624 --> 00:03:25.251 aren't unusual with police departments. 00:03:25.293 --> 00:03:27.295 Lot of times, it could be a husband or a wife, 00:03:27.337 --> 00:03:30.590 teenage son, or daughter, they run away sometimes. 00:03:30.632 --> 00:03:32.091 I decided to go down there. 00:03:32.133 --> 00:03:33.927 I thought certainly by the time I got down there, 00:03:33.968 --> 00:03:36.221 it's a 30-minute drive from headquarters, 00:03:36.304 --> 00:03:38.765 that this is all gonna be awash. 00:03:40.475 --> 00:03:42.769 I went down there and knocked on the door. 00:03:44.270 --> 00:03:46.898 It's about 1:30, 1:45, 00:03:46.940 --> 00:03:50.068 and Peek answered the door. 00:03:50.109 --> 00:03:51.819 You know, he invited me in. 00:03:51.903 --> 00:03:53.696 John told him that his wife had been to dinner 00:03:53.780 --> 00:03:56.616 with a friend of hers named Margaret Ginn. 00:03:56.658 --> 00:03:58.826 They had a standing dinner appointment every week. 00:03:58.910 --> 00:04:00.828 This particular night, they were gonna go to dinner 00:04:00.912 --> 00:04:02.830 at O'Ryan's Restaurant 00:04:02.872 --> 00:04:07.168 and that normally Carol would have been home by 9:30, 10:00. 00:04:07.210 --> 00:04:08.461 You know, so I asked him, 00:04:08.503 --> 00:04:12.257 "Have you checked with hospitals, friends, 00:04:12.340 --> 00:04:13.841 any other co-workers?" 00:04:13.841 --> 00:04:16.928 And he told me no. 00:04:16.970 --> 00:04:19.430 John told me that his wife Carol had brown hair, 00:04:19.514 --> 00:04:21.349 was 5'3", 00:04:21.391 --> 00:04:26.187 she was last seen wearing a multicolored pant suit. 00:04:26.229 --> 00:04:30.566 Carol's car was a '94 Toyota Camry, blue in color. 00:04:30.650 --> 00:04:32.527 So then I asked, give me some information 00:04:32.568 --> 00:04:36.239 on his wife's friend Maggie Ginn. 00:04:36.281 --> 00:04:40.451 He described Maggie as being about 5'5", 64 years old. 00:04:40.535 --> 00:04:41.869 She had grey hair. 00:04:41.953 --> 00:04:44.956 John told me that Maggie retired from Lockheed 00:04:44.998 --> 00:04:46.332 just a few years before. 00:04:46.374 --> 00:04:47.542 They had worked together, 00:04:47.583 --> 00:04:50.628 remained friends when Mrs. Ginn retired. 00:04:50.712 --> 00:04:52.380 So he gave me her phone number. 00:04:52.422 --> 00:04:54.340 And I said, "John, I don't know what 00:04:54.382 --> 00:04:56.551 "we're dealing with right now. 00:04:56.551 --> 00:04:58.553 Hopefully, she's okay." 00:04:58.553 --> 00:05:01.848 I gave him my card. I left the condo about 00:05:01.889 --> 00:05:05.393 2:30, 2:45 after spending about an hour with him. 00:05:05.435 --> 00:05:08.896 It would have been very simple for me to just say, 00:05:08.938 --> 00:05:11.232 "Okay, I've done what I can do." 00:05:11.274 --> 00:05:12.567 But I felt pretty strong 00:05:12.567 --> 00:05:15.403 that I needed to at least run this out. 00:05:15.445 --> 00:05:17.989 Detective Herman decides to investigate 00:05:18.031 --> 00:05:19.782 the last place Carol and Maggie 00:05:19.866 --> 00:05:23.953 were likely to have been, O'Ryan's Restaurant. 00:05:23.995 --> 00:05:26.831 The parking lot was empty. They were closed. 00:05:26.873 --> 00:05:31.586 And Carol's Toyota Camry wasn't there. 00:05:31.627 --> 00:05:33.296 I went back to the office. 00:05:33.338 --> 00:05:37.050 We did a systematic check of the hospitals. 00:05:37.091 --> 00:05:39.177 There were no reported traffic accidents 00:05:39.218 --> 00:05:43.598 involving a vehicle that fit the type car she was in. 00:05:43.598 --> 00:05:46.225 I started doing research on her. 00:05:46.267 --> 00:05:47.727 Nothing with her information. 00:05:49.479 --> 00:05:50.897 As the hours pass, 00:05:50.938 --> 00:05:52.940 Detective Herman makes it his mission 00:05:53.024 --> 00:05:56.652 to find Carol Marlin and her friend Maggie Ginn. 00:05:56.736 --> 00:05:58.946 We're about seven hours in now. 00:05:58.946 --> 00:06:00.281 So I call Lockheed, 00:06:00.323 --> 00:06:03.368 see if I could get an address for Maggie Ginn. 00:06:03.451 --> 00:06:06.788 I got on the phone with Lockheed security. 00:06:06.788 --> 00:06:08.748 They provided me with an address. 00:06:11.292 --> 00:06:15.254 The homicide lieutenant said at 6:00 in the morning, 00:06:15.296 --> 00:06:17.131 "You wanna turn this over to day watch?" 00:06:17.173 --> 00:06:19.050 Just something inside of me said, 00:06:19.092 --> 00:06:22.762 "No, I wanna go down and check this address." 00:06:22.804 --> 00:06:25.681 And he said, "Okay, I'll ride with you." 00:06:25.765 --> 00:06:27.350 And we drove down there. 00:06:28.893 --> 00:06:32.647 I remember turning onto Maggie's street, 00:06:32.688 --> 00:06:36.692 and there was Carol Marlin's blue Camry, 00:06:36.776 --> 00:06:38.820 sitting in the driveway. 00:06:38.903 --> 00:06:41.989 And I didn't have a good feeling. 00:06:42.073 --> 00:06:45.827 It never crossed my mind that they weren't there. 00:06:45.910 --> 00:06:50.498 I just felt like we were dealing with a homicide. 00:06:50.498 --> 00:06:52.500 Suspicions begin to mount 00:06:52.542 --> 00:06:54.502 as detectives make their way 00:06:54.544 --> 00:06:57.672 towards Maggie Ginn's front door. 00:06:57.713 --> 00:07:00.425 I walk up to the Camry, the engine's cold, 00:07:00.466 --> 00:07:03.219 but there's a pocketbook on the console. 00:07:03.261 --> 00:07:05.721 The door's unlocked. 00:07:05.805 --> 00:07:08.683 Maggie's cars were parked in the open carport. 00:07:08.724 --> 00:07:11.811 The house was dark on the inside. 00:07:11.853 --> 00:07:13.354 No lights were on. 00:07:13.396 --> 00:07:17.358 The house was locked up and there was no activity. 00:07:17.400 --> 00:07:18.860 We did have a mobile phone, 00:07:18.943 --> 00:07:20.653 so we called the house from the driveway. 00:07:20.695 --> 00:07:22.363 You could hear the phone ringing inside, 00:07:22.405 --> 00:07:25.324 and it would go straight to the answering machine. 00:07:25.366 --> 00:07:28.161 So I said, "Let's talk to the neighbor, 00:07:28.202 --> 00:07:30.204 see what they can tell us about Miss Ginn." 00:07:30.246 --> 00:07:32.123 And she said, "Well, yeah, I know 00:07:32.165 --> 00:07:34.083 she's got three children. I have some phone numbers." 00:07:34.125 --> 00:07:36.461 So I told the lieutenant, I said, "I'm gonna call 00:07:36.544 --> 00:07:39.422 and try to get one of Maggie's children on the phone." 00:07:39.464 --> 00:07:41.215 There's a sense of urgency 00:07:41.257 --> 00:07:43.634 'cause we didn't know what we were dealing with. 00:07:43.718 --> 00:07:48.431 So I got on the telephone with her daughter. 00:07:48.473 --> 00:07:50.600 And her daughter tells me that, 00:07:50.641 --> 00:07:53.478 "If my mom's vehicles are in that carport, 00:07:53.561 --> 00:07:55.730 then she's at home." 00:07:55.771 --> 00:07:57.732 She said, "Something's wrong. 00:07:57.773 --> 00:07:59.734 Would you guys please go in the house?" 00:07:59.775 --> 00:08:03.696 And the house is all locked up, so we kick the door. 00:08:06.616 --> 00:08:09.160 I walked into the kitchen. 00:08:09.202 --> 00:08:13.289 There's two bags with groceries 00:08:13.331 --> 00:08:17.084 still on a counter right there next to where we went in. 00:08:17.126 --> 00:08:19.754 Taking a left into the dining area... 00:08:22.006 --> 00:08:24.425 There was a female face down on the floor 00:08:24.467 --> 00:08:26.802 next to the dining room table. 00:08:26.886 --> 00:08:28.804 She was deceased. 00:08:28.888 --> 00:08:30.640 It appeared to be Carol Marlin. 00:08:34.727 --> 00:08:38.606 We walked to the rear bedroom 00:08:38.648 --> 00:08:40.650 using the flashlight. 00:08:42.944 --> 00:08:46.113 Maggie Ginn was in a chair, slumped over, 00:08:46.113 --> 00:08:47.615 and she was bleeding from the head. 00:08:47.657 --> 00:08:49.534 She was deceased also. 00:08:49.617 --> 00:08:52.328 We had a double homicide. 00:08:52.370 --> 00:08:55.331 As the case evolves from a missing persons 00:08:55.373 --> 00:08:57.083 to a double homicide, 00:08:57.124 --> 00:09:01.420 law enforcement begins to assess the brutal crime scene. 00:09:01.462 --> 00:09:06.634 It was a vicious attack, particularly on Carol Marlin. 00:09:06.634 --> 00:09:11.138 I mean, you had blood spatter on the ceiling, on the walls. 00:09:12.807 --> 00:09:16.852 They both had been beaten with some type of instrument. 00:09:16.936 --> 00:09:18.938 It was a pretty profound scene. 00:09:18.980 --> 00:09:22.400 We backed out of there and then you can regroup 00:09:22.441 --> 00:09:24.151 and then you've got this adrenaline going 00:09:24.193 --> 00:09:27.697 because as a homicide cop, there's this sense of urgency, 00:09:27.780 --> 00:09:30.074 "Hey, we've got these two bodies. 00:09:30.116 --> 00:09:33.661 "What we need to do is just take a deep breath. 00:09:33.661 --> 00:09:36.163 We're gonna map a plan." 00:09:36.205 --> 00:09:38.874 By this time, we had detectives, 00:09:38.958 --> 00:09:40.835 crime scene folks. 00:09:40.835 --> 00:09:42.461 We had taped off the house, 00:09:42.503 --> 00:09:46.507 and we were getting ready to process the crime scene. 00:09:46.549 --> 00:09:49.010 These murders appeared to be done with some type 00:09:49.093 --> 00:09:51.721 of maybe a claw hammer or something like that. 00:09:51.762 --> 00:09:54.557 It was obvious overkill. 00:09:54.599 --> 00:09:56.183 And when I say overkill, 00:09:56.267 --> 00:09:58.436 it's kind of an old adage that we use. 00:09:58.477 --> 00:10:00.313 It was personal. 00:10:00.354 --> 00:10:02.023 She had severe head trauma. 00:10:02.023 --> 00:10:03.774 Maggie Ginn had been hit. 00:10:03.858 --> 00:10:05.484 She had trauma to the head also, 00:10:05.526 --> 00:10:08.904 but she had not been beaten nearly as bad as Carol Marlin. 00:10:08.988 --> 00:10:10.865 I can remember being at the scene thinking, 00:10:10.906 --> 00:10:13.409 "Carol Marlin is the focus of the attack." 00:10:13.451 --> 00:10:15.036 The detectives working the scene 00:10:15.119 --> 00:10:17.872 focused on fingerprints, trace evidence. 00:10:17.913 --> 00:10:20.041 There was a search of the residence 00:10:20.082 --> 00:10:22.918 for the murder weapon, but it was not found. 00:10:26.297 --> 00:10:28.924 Investigators struggle to comprehend 00:10:29.008 --> 00:10:30.885 a motive behind the barbaric killing 00:10:30.885 --> 00:10:33.804 of these two innocent women 00:10:33.888 --> 00:10:36.766 living a quiet suburban life in Atlanta. 00:10:36.807 --> 00:10:39.560 It didn't look like a theft or a robbery. 00:10:39.602 --> 00:10:41.687 Carol's pocketbook is in broad daylight 00:10:41.729 --> 00:10:43.773 on the console of that car. 00:10:43.814 --> 00:10:46.525 Other than a few drawers being pulled out, 00:10:46.567 --> 00:10:48.861 it just didn't fit that they walked in 00:10:48.903 --> 00:10:52.657 on, you know, a robbery of any kind. 00:10:52.698 --> 00:10:55.034 Could we be dealing with a possible attempt 00:10:55.076 --> 00:10:57.203 at a * assault that went bad? 00:10:57.244 --> 00:10:58.788 No, it didn't fit. 00:10:58.829 --> 00:11:02.249 Both of them were wearing clothing. 00:11:02.249 --> 00:11:05.503 Just from experience and 41 years in the business, 00:11:05.544 --> 00:11:09.757 if an individual is gonna kill two women like that, 00:11:09.757 --> 00:11:11.258 he's not taking the time 00:11:11.258 --> 00:11:14.095 when he's leaving the scene to lock all the doors. 00:11:14.095 --> 00:11:16.681 He's getting the heck out of there. 00:11:16.764 --> 00:11:19.767 So that part, that's really odd. 00:11:19.767 --> 00:11:21.769 Then at some point, our crime scene tech 00:11:21.811 --> 00:11:24.105 finds in Maggie Ginn's hand 00:11:24.105 --> 00:11:26.816 a torn invoice from Lockheed. 00:11:26.857 --> 00:11:28.984 Our crime scene tech, she said, 00:11:29.068 --> 00:11:31.737 "You could tell by the way the hand was positioned, 00:11:31.779 --> 00:11:33.823 it was planted there." 00:11:33.864 --> 00:11:35.491 It didn't make any sense. 00:11:38.369 --> 00:11:42.957 The week before the murder, five employees had got letters. 00:11:42.957 --> 00:11:44.583 No one could ever determine the source of, 00:11:44.625 --> 00:11:46.085 that was vaguely threatening. 00:11:46.127 --> 00:11:48.129 Carol Marlin got one of those letters. 00:11:48.170 --> 00:11:51.173 Secretary told me, "There is a guy on the phone 00:11:51.257 --> 00:11:53.259 that's got some information on this case." 00:11:53.300 --> 00:11:54.593 He works at Lockheed. 00:12:03.227 --> 00:12:05.730 The tranquil haven of Marietta, Georgia 00:12:05.813 --> 00:12:08.816 is rocked when a missing persons case 00:12:08.816 --> 00:12:13.195 turns into a devastating double homicide. 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:15.281 The savage beating of Carol Marlin 00:12:15.322 --> 00:12:17.450 and her friend Maggie Ginn 00:12:17.491 --> 00:12:20.619 now has locals looking over their shoulders. 00:12:20.661 --> 00:12:23.789 It was not a place that you would be afraid to go. 00:12:23.831 --> 00:12:27.126 It was not the place that got the reputation for crime. 00:12:27.168 --> 00:12:30.254 I remember when I moved back here from San Francisco, 00:12:30.296 --> 00:12:32.006 my younger son looked out and said, 00:12:32.047 --> 00:12:33.674 "Dad, we've moved to Perfectville." 00:12:35.676 --> 00:12:37.845 Investigators aren't sure who to blame 00:12:37.887 --> 00:12:41.474 for the gruesome scene inside Maggie Ginn's home, 00:12:41.515 --> 00:12:45.561 but a clue seemingly planted in her lifeless hand 00:12:45.603 --> 00:12:47.688 gives them their first lead. 00:12:47.730 --> 00:12:52.526 At the crime scene, in Maggie Ginn's hand, 00:12:52.568 --> 00:12:54.820 there's a torn invoice from Lockheed. 00:12:54.862 --> 00:12:58.365 You could tell by the way the hand was positioned, 00:12:58.449 --> 00:13:00.743 it was planted there. 00:13:00.785 --> 00:13:03.913 Written on the invoice in handwriting 00:13:03.996 --> 00:13:06.040 was the name Barry Webb. 00:13:07.625 --> 00:13:09.376 This staged piece of evidence 00:13:09.460 --> 00:13:12.046 has investigators baffled, 00:13:12.046 --> 00:13:14.799 so they begin their search for the man whose name 00:13:14.882 --> 00:13:18.219 is on the mysterious paper, Barry Webb. 00:13:19.887 --> 00:13:23.224 Meanwhile, detectives are surprised by a visitor 00:13:23.307 --> 00:13:25.184 at the crime scene. 00:13:25.226 --> 00:13:28.312 One of the other detectives tracked me down and she said, 00:13:28.354 --> 00:13:30.022 "Is your complainant a John Peek?" 00:13:30.064 --> 00:13:32.817 I said, "Yeah, that's Carol Marlin's husband." 00:13:34.777 --> 00:13:36.195 She said, "Well, he's here." 00:13:36.237 --> 00:13:40.032 So I go out, there he is, standing beside his red car, 00:13:40.074 --> 00:13:42.618 hollering at me, anxious, "I wanna know what's going on. 00:13:42.660 --> 00:13:44.829 What's going on?" And I told him, I said, 00:13:44.870 --> 00:13:49.124 "We found your wife and Maggie Ginn deceased." 00:13:50.417 --> 00:13:52.253 He was emotional. 00:13:52.253 --> 00:13:53.921 And I said, "John, look, 00:13:53.963 --> 00:13:56.507 "there isn't any reason for you to stay out here. 00:13:56.549 --> 00:13:58.175 "What we're gonna do is we're gonna leave 00:13:58.259 --> 00:14:00.678 and take you back up to our office." 00:14:02.638 --> 00:14:04.890 After telling Carol's husband John 00:14:04.932 --> 00:14:07.768 the devastating news about his wife's murder, 00:14:07.810 --> 00:14:10.062 police escort him to the station 00:14:10.104 --> 00:14:12.773 and detectives handle the daunting task 00:14:12.815 --> 00:14:15.651 of notifying the rest of the victim's families. 00:14:15.693 --> 00:14:18.946 Before I left to go back to interview him, 00:14:18.946 --> 00:14:22.950 I met with Maggie Ginn's two sons and daughter. 00:14:22.992 --> 00:14:25.286 They had made their way down there. 00:14:25.369 --> 00:14:27.538 They were at a neighbor's house across the street. 00:14:27.580 --> 00:14:28.873 I talked with them. 00:14:28.873 --> 00:14:31.500 Maggie's family told law enforcement 00:14:31.542 --> 00:14:33.627 that it had to have been something 00:14:33.669 --> 00:14:35.546 that was not related to their mother 00:14:35.588 --> 00:14:37.548 because they didn't know any reason 00:14:37.590 --> 00:14:40.759 anyone would want to harm their mother. 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:42.386 Carol was a good bit younger than grandmother, 00:14:42.428 --> 00:14:45.389 but they were fairly close. 00:14:45.431 --> 00:14:47.099 They had been friends for years 00:14:47.182 --> 00:14:50.936 since when they had worked together at Lockheed. 00:14:54.106 --> 00:14:57.109 When we found out that Carol had been killed, 00:14:57.109 --> 00:15:01.614 we were completely bewildered, and it was--we were in shock. 00:15:01.655 --> 00:15:03.949 That was really horrifying for us. 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:11.248 I mean, what kind of monster 00:15:11.290 --> 00:15:15.336 would kill somebody like that? 00:15:15.377 --> 00:15:20.424 What kind of monster would do that? 00:15:22.801 --> 00:15:25.554 Carol was three and a half years older than me 00:15:25.596 --> 00:15:29.391 and was always very, very popular, very pretty. 00:15:29.433 --> 00:15:33.562 She was a cheerleader. She was in the drill team. 00:15:33.604 --> 00:15:36.523 She was smart. She was on the honor roll. 00:15:36.565 --> 00:15:39.318 And it was hard to compete with her 00:15:39.401 --> 00:15:42.613 as the, you know, next child. 00:15:42.655 --> 00:15:45.115 She did her doctorate, then she moved to Atlanta 00:15:45.157 --> 00:15:47.117 and became a program planner 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:51.580 and she managed bids and proposals for Lockheed. 00:15:51.622 --> 00:15:54.541 And that's where she met John Peek. 00:15:54.583 --> 00:15:55.793 John worked in 00:15:55.834 --> 00:15:57.878 the aerospace company's IT division, 00:15:57.962 --> 00:16:01.131 often on secret projects for the military. 00:16:01.173 --> 00:16:03.842 Carol seemed to really like him. 00:16:03.842 --> 00:16:06.136 We used to go to Kauai with them. 00:16:06.178 --> 00:16:08.722 That was our favorite place to vacation. 00:16:08.764 --> 00:16:13.686 And John and I had a pretty close relationship too. 00:16:13.727 --> 00:16:16.522 And he really became a part of our family. 00:16:18.899 --> 00:16:22.361 In order to uncover anyone with a possible motive, 00:16:22.361 --> 00:16:25.030 detectives begin investigating the dynamic 00:16:25.030 --> 00:16:29.159 of Carol's relationship with her husband John. 00:16:29.201 --> 00:16:31.537 I sat down with him in the homicide office. 00:16:31.578 --> 00:16:34.456 I said, "I hate to ask you this, 00:16:34.498 --> 00:16:36.709 "but I need to know what you were doing last night. 00:16:36.750 --> 00:16:40.963 From the time you got off--" "I know, I know," he said. 00:16:41.046 --> 00:16:42.923 "The husband's always a suspect." 00:16:43.007 --> 00:16:44.675 And I told him, I said, "Not necessarily." 00:16:44.717 --> 00:16:47.177 I said, "But I need to know." 00:16:47.219 --> 00:16:51.098 He said, "Not a problem. I went and got bottled water, 00:16:51.181 --> 00:16:55.436 "I stopped, uh, at a Wendy's and got drive thru. 00:16:55.477 --> 00:16:57.896 And I went home." 00:16:57.896 --> 00:16:59.898 I talked to him about Carol Marlin. 00:16:59.898 --> 00:17:01.734 "How's the relationship?" 00:17:01.775 --> 00:17:04.111 He told me, "Everything's fine." 00:17:04.194 --> 00:17:06.530 They had been together for several years. 00:17:06.572 --> 00:17:08.032 They had never legally married. 00:17:08.073 --> 00:17:10.743 They "considered themselves" husband and wife, 00:17:10.743 --> 00:17:12.745 what they referred to as common law. 00:17:12.786 --> 00:17:15.414 Detectives ask if there is anyone 00:17:15.414 --> 00:17:16.915 who would want to harm Carol, 00:17:16.915 --> 00:17:21.587 when John reveals a disturbing revelation. 00:17:21.628 --> 00:17:24.715 John told police there had been a strange letter 00:17:24.757 --> 00:17:26.800 sent out to several people at Lockheed 00:17:26.842 --> 00:17:28.761 that no one could ever determine the source of 00:17:28.802 --> 00:17:30.304 that was vaguely threatening. 00:17:30.387 --> 00:17:32.431 The week before the murder, 00:17:32.514 --> 00:17:35.434 five employees had got threatening letters, 00:17:35.434 --> 00:17:37.311 having to do with pay scales 00:17:37.394 --> 00:17:40.939 and stuff that didn't make sense. 00:17:40.981 --> 00:17:43.692 Carol Marlin got one of those letters. 00:17:43.734 --> 00:17:46.153 As they conclude their interview with John Peek 00:17:46.236 --> 00:17:47.654 and send him home, 00:17:47.696 --> 00:17:49.740 detectives immediately head to Lockheed 00:17:49.782 --> 00:17:51.784 to explore this new information, 00:17:51.825 --> 00:17:54.828 hoping to get closer to a suspect. 00:17:54.870 --> 00:17:57.581 Law enforcement began to interview coworkers, 00:17:57.623 --> 00:18:01.085 supervisors of Carol at Lockheed. 00:18:01.126 --> 00:18:03.796 One of those revealed that the threatening letters 00:18:03.796 --> 00:18:06.507 anonymously placed in the mailboxes 00:18:06.548 --> 00:18:09.968 of several of the employees in that division. 00:18:10.010 --> 00:18:11.553 Word had gotten out at Lockheed 00:18:11.595 --> 00:18:13.013 about what had happened. 00:18:13.097 --> 00:18:16.517 The secretary told me there is a guy on the phone 00:18:16.558 --> 00:18:19.686 that's got some information on this case. 00:18:19.728 --> 00:18:22.981 He works at Lockheed. His name was Barry Webb. 00:18:24.900 --> 00:18:26.819 Barry Webb was the name handwritten 00:18:26.860 --> 00:18:30.072 on the torn invoice from Lockheed. 00:18:30.155 --> 00:18:32.157 Now that the mysterious Barry Webb 00:18:32.199 --> 00:18:34.326 has finally been found, 00:18:34.409 --> 00:18:36.787 detectives rush to question him. 00:18:36.829 --> 00:18:40.332 And what he has to say is downright shocking. 00:18:40.415 --> 00:18:42.751 Barry Web was originally friends, 00:18:42.793 --> 00:18:44.962 also coworkers with Carol. 00:18:45.003 --> 00:18:47.840 On the night of the murder, he said that he had had 00:18:47.881 --> 00:18:50.843 an intruder into his basement workshop. 00:18:50.843 --> 00:18:53.512 He said, "I was at home, 00:18:53.554 --> 00:18:55.097 "and I heard a noise in the basement. 00:18:55.180 --> 00:18:57.891 "It looked like somebody had forced their way in. 00:18:57.933 --> 00:18:59.476 It was definitely John Peek." 00:19:08.193 --> 00:19:11.613 In July of 1996, former Lockheed colleagues, 00:19:11.655 --> 00:19:15.492 Carol Marlin and Maggie Ginn are found brutally slain 00:19:15.534 --> 00:19:18.245 inside Maggie's suburban home. 00:19:18.328 --> 00:19:20.622 As the murder investigation heats up, 00:19:20.664 --> 00:19:23.500 detectives speak with one of Carol's co-workers, 00:19:23.542 --> 00:19:27.171 Barry Webb, who claims Carol's husband, John, 00:19:27.212 --> 00:19:30.632 broke into his house the night of the murder. 00:19:31.383 --> 00:19:34.553 Barry Webb said, "At about 9:30 or so, 00:19:34.553 --> 00:19:35.721 "I was at home, 00:19:35.804 --> 00:19:37.723 "and I heard a noise in the basement. 00:19:37.764 --> 00:19:39.516 "So I went down there. 00:19:39.558 --> 00:19:42.227 "John Peek's down in the basement. 00:19:42.227 --> 00:19:43.729 "He had a bag in his hand. 00:19:43.770 --> 00:19:45.355 "I asked him, I said, 'What are you doing?'" 00:19:45.397 --> 00:19:47.232 And there was-- there was a struggle. 00:19:47.274 --> 00:19:50.110 He said, "I tried to hold on and hold him. 00:19:50.152 --> 00:19:52.237 "And there was like a clanging noise in it, 00:19:52.237 --> 00:19:54.156 like a metal noise." 00:19:54.239 --> 00:19:55.949 "We struggled for a minute, 00:19:55.991 --> 00:19:57.993 "and he ran out the basement door, 00:19:58.035 --> 00:20:02.247 and he left with a bag." 00:20:04.124 --> 00:20:07.753 He said I called 911, sheriff's office came out, 00:20:07.794 --> 00:20:09.963 there was a report filed. 00:20:10.005 --> 00:20:11.423 The deputy that was on the scene 00:20:11.423 --> 00:20:14.301 taking the report called Peek's house. 00:20:14.384 --> 00:20:17.971 Peek had made his way back to his house and got on the phone. 00:20:18.013 --> 00:20:19.264 And the deputy asked him, 00:20:19.264 --> 00:20:21.058 "What are you doing in this man's basement?" 00:20:21.099 --> 00:20:23.268 He said, "Well, I was looking for my wife." 00:20:24.978 --> 00:20:27.773 So I left that interview with Barry Webb, 00:20:27.814 --> 00:20:30.275 and we had some issues with Peek. 00:20:30.317 --> 00:20:33.487 Bear in mind, he had plenty of opportunities 00:20:33.570 --> 00:20:35.113 to share that information, 00:20:35.155 --> 00:20:37.449 but why he didn't share it with us, I don't know. 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:43.580 While questions swirl about Carol's husband 00:20:43.622 --> 00:20:45.123 John and his whereabouts 00:20:45.123 --> 00:20:47.334 the night Carol and Maggie were killed, 00:20:47.417 --> 00:20:50.128 the investigators who are diving into Carol's personal 00:20:50.170 --> 00:20:51.713 and financial world 00:20:51.755 --> 00:20:55.300 uncover something else that raises eyebrows. 00:20:55.300 --> 00:20:57.844 Day two into the investigation, 00:20:57.886 --> 00:21:01.348 we're doing the background with personnel at Lockheed. 00:21:01.431 --> 00:21:03.767 Security says, "You might be interested in this. 00:21:03.809 --> 00:21:08.981 Two weeks ago, Peek and Carol Marlin were in here in HR. 00:21:09.022 --> 00:21:11.149 They changed their life insurance plans." 00:21:13.527 --> 00:21:16.321 The personnel office at Lockheed received a request 00:21:16.321 --> 00:21:20.325 to put John Peek in as the primary beneficiary 00:21:20.325 --> 00:21:22.911 of a $700,000 life insurance policy. 00:21:24.496 --> 00:21:27.666 Carol had two life insurance policies. 00:21:27.666 --> 00:21:33.005 Lockheed had a $350,000 life insurance policy they provided, 00:21:33.046 --> 00:21:34.840 and she doubled it. 00:21:34.923 --> 00:21:36.758 And it had been in my mother's name. 00:21:36.800 --> 00:21:38.510 It was all to go to my mother. 00:21:38.552 --> 00:21:41.388 And she changed it to all go to John. 00:21:43.348 --> 00:21:46.184 It was a profound moment in the case. 00:21:47.394 --> 00:21:50.105 As the red flags multiply, 00:21:50.188 --> 00:21:52.482 Detective Herman brings John Peek in 00:21:52.524 --> 00:21:55.027 to answer a new set of questions. 00:21:55.068 --> 00:21:57.863 When I asked him about the life insurance, he said, 00:21:57.904 --> 00:21:59.823 "We were changing our lives, 00:21:59.865 --> 00:22:02.492 that we were gonna get legally married." 00:22:02.534 --> 00:22:04.119 When I asked Peek about the break-in 00:22:04.202 --> 00:22:06.371 at Barry Webb's house, 00:22:06.371 --> 00:22:09.666 I said, "You didn't think that was important that we know 00:22:09.708 --> 00:22:12.294 "at 9:30 on the night you reported your wife missing, 00:22:12.377 --> 00:22:16.256 "you were at a house in Paulden County in somebody's basement, 00:22:16.298 --> 00:22:18.383 'cause I asked you where you'd been if you remember, John." 00:22:18.425 --> 00:22:20.677 And he said, "Well, I just didn't think about it. 00:22:20.719 --> 00:22:22.721 I didn't think it was important." 00:22:22.804 --> 00:22:24.139 I said, "I'm goin' for it. 00:22:24.181 --> 00:22:28.560 I'm gonna stay on his ass until this thing breaks." 00:22:28.602 --> 00:22:30.395 I laid out everything that happened-- 00:22:30.437 --> 00:22:33.690 life insurance to Barry Webb. 00:22:33.732 --> 00:22:35.108 It's hard to describe, 00:22:35.150 --> 00:22:38.403 but you could see in his eyes that he expected this. 00:22:39.696 --> 00:22:42.282 He said, "I didn't do this. 00:22:42.366 --> 00:22:45.118 And I think I need to talk to a lawyer." 00:22:46.578 --> 00:22:49.414 For investigators, the pieces of the puzzle 00:22:49.414 --> 00:22:51.875 are finally falling into place. 00:22:51.917 --> 00:22:54.127 I felt that the personal nature 00:22:54.169 --> 00:22:58.590 of the attack on Carol Marlin, it was more focused on her. 00:23:00.258 --> 00:23:03.136 It didn't take long for me to think Maggie Ginn 00:23:03.178 --> 00:23:06.181 was drug into it as part of Peek's plan. 00:23:06.264 --> 00:23:09.101 His plan, his warped thinking, 00:23:09.142 --> 00:23:12.270 he's gonna make it look like it's something it's not. 00:23:12.312 --> 00:23:14.773 Kill the women and then take the instrument 00:23:14.773 --> 00:23:17.484 and plant 'em in Barry Webb's house. 00:23:17.567 --> 00:23:19.194 He had this idea that we would think 00:23:19.236 --> 00:23:22.447 because we found Barry Webb's name in her hand, 00:23:22.489 --> 00:23:24.783 we'd go running out there and we'd find a murder weapon. 00:23:24.783 --> 00:23:26.451 It was almost comical to think 00:23:26.451 --> 00:23:27.994 that we would automatically think 00:23:28.036 --> 00:23:30.872 that Barry Webb killed these two women. 00:23:30.914 --> 00:23:33.458 For what reason? 00:23:33.458 --> 00:23:34.793 Detective Herman knows 00:23:34.876 --> 00:23:37.087 that the life insurance payout for John Peek 00:23:37.129 --> 00:23:39.339 is a solid motive, 00:23:39.423 --> 00:23:40.966 but without any physical evidence 00:23:41.007 --> 00:23:43.760 or eyewitnesses tying Peek to the crime scene, 00:23:43.802 --> 00:23:48.140 the case may still be too thin for the DA to press charges. 00:23:48.181 --> 00:23:52.060 I just needed one witness to put him at that house 00:23:52.102 --> 00:23:54.104 or put that car there. 00:23:54.146 --> 00:23:56.815 This guy's driving a red car. 00:23:56.898 --> 00:24:00.068 Didn't have a single witness 00:24:00.110 --> 00:24:02.320 that saw a red car at the house. 00:24:04.239 --> 00:24:05.532 The challenge for the police 00:24:05.615 --> 00:24:07.826 was the murder weapon was never recovered. 00:24:07.826 --> 00:24:09.995 There's no fingerprints. There's no DNA. 00:24:10.036 --> 00:24:12.414 There's no eyewitnesses. 00:24:12.497 --> 00:24:15.417 There's nothing linking the murders to John Peek. 00:24:17.502 --> 00:24:19.796 Months roll by 00:24:19.838 --> 00:24:23.300 as detectives meticulously dig for evidence 00:24:23.341 --> 00:24:26.386 to build their case against John Peek. 00:24:26.428 --> 00:24:29.222 In late '96, we met with the DA. 00:24:29.264 --> 00:24:33.852 I felt strongly the circumstances were there. 00:24:33.852 --> 00:24:36.438 His statements, the lies. 00:24:36.521 --> 00:24:40.400 Our office made a determination 00:24:40.484 --> 00:24:44.779 that there wasn't enough there to charge him with a murder. 00:24:44.821 --> 00:24:48.033 The argument put back on me was, well, 00:24:48.074 --> 00:24:51.286 if we charge him and try him and he gets acquitted, 00:24:51.369 --> 00:24:54.039 he can't ever be charged again. 00:24:54.080 --> 00:24:55.790 At this point in the investigation, 00:24:55.832 --> 00:24:59.836 I was pretty well convinced that he was our killer. 00:24:59.878 --> 00:25:02.714 And John Peek had been pretty darn lucky. 00:25:04.549 --> 00:25:06.384 We met with Carol's mom and sister 00:25:06.426 --> 00:25:08.136 and Maggie's family. 00:25:08.178 --> 00:25:11.389 I laid it all out to the family with where we were at. 00:25:11.431 --> 00:25:12.891 My mom and I both believed 00:25:12.891 --> 00:25:16.061 that John was the murderer at that point. 00:25:16.144 --> 00:25:18.271 Detective Eddie Herman said 00:25:18.313 --> 00:25:20.106 that she signed her death warrant 00:25:20.148 --> 00:25:22.943 when she changed that life insurance. 00:25:22.984 --> 00:25:26.196 The fact that there was not an immediate arrest 00:25:26.238 --> 00:25:27.822 was very, very difficult. 00:25:27.864 --> 00:25:32.202 It was just horrifying for us to think that, 00:25:32.244 --> 00:25:37.040 "He did this and got away with it?" 00:25:37.082 --> 00:25:38.500 We definitely expected them 00:25:38.583 --> 00:25:41.127 to find some evidence against John, 00:25:41.169 --> 00:25:43.046 and they just didn't. 00:25:43.088 --> 00:25:45.632 I was very frustrated with the system. 00:25:45.715 --> 00:25:48.635 We were very worried how dangerous he was 00:25:48.718 --> 00:25:50.345 and the fact that he had gotten away with this. 00:25:56.601 --> 00:25:58.311 The investigation 00:25:58.353 --> 00:26:00.146 into the vicious double homicide 00:26:00.188 --> 00:26:02.482 of Carol Marlin and Maggie Ginn 00:26:02.566 --> 00:26:06.444 has led police to Carol's husband John Peek. 00:26:06.444 --> 00:26:08.530 But the lack of physical evidence 00:26:08.613 --> 00:26:10.365 has made an arrest impossible, 00:26:10.448 --> 00:26:14.661 leaving the women's families frustrated and defeated. 00:26:14.744 --> 00:26:19.332 This murder was devastating, and it was just too stressful. 00:26:19.374 --> 00:26:22.002 So you just have to live with this thing. 00:26:22.043 --> 00:26:24.921 And that was really, really hard. 00:26:28.258 --> 00:26:31.970 I kept that case active if I had something come in. 00:26:31.970 --> 00:26:36.391 We followed every lead. The effort was there. 00:26:36.474 --> 00:26:38.310 You can be the damn best homicide detective 00:26:38.351 --> 00:26:39.978 in the world. 00:26:40.061 --> 00:26:43.023 If you're not lucky sometimes, 00:26:43.064 --> 00:26:45.358 things won't pan out. 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:47.611 As months become years, 00:26:47.652 --> 00:26:49.362 detectives hold out hope 00:26:49.404 --> 00:26:51.656 for any possible break in the case. 00:26:51.698 --> 00:26:53.491 In the years that followed 00:26:53.533 --> 00:26:56.494 the murder of Mrs. Ginn and Carol Marlin, 00:26:56.536 --> 00:26:59.831 Detective Herman certainly reviewed the file, 00:26:59.831 --> 00:27:01.333 stayed in contact with the family, 00:27:01.374 --> 00:27:04.669 kept abreast of where John Peek was. 00:27:04.711 --> 00:27:08.214 We continued to ask questions about the murders. 00:27:08.256 --> 00:27:10.216 There were no updates. 00:27:10.258 --> 00:27:12.469 It was obvious that the case had gone cold. 00:27:12.510 --> 00:27:14.846 For more than nine years, 00:27:14.929 --> 00:27:19.851 the Carol Marlin, Maggie Ginn murders are in limbo. 00:27:19.851 --> 00:27:23.146 Then in the fall of 2005, 00:27:23.188 --> 00:27:25.148 just eight miles from Marietta, 00:27:25.190 --> 00:27:27.192 Smyrna police detectives 00:27:27.275 --> 00:27:29.444 respond to the scene of a homicide 00:27:29.527 --> 00:27:32.989 that brings the Marlin-Ginn case back to life. 00:27:33.031 --> 00:27:35.408 Well, the 911 call comes in the morning hours 00:27:35.450 --> 00:27:38.745 of the 2nd of October that there's been a murder. 00:27:38.828 --> 00:27:40.872 When I arrived at the scene, 00:27:40.872 --> 00:27:42.707 my captain calls me to the back, says, 00:27:42.791 --> 00:27:46.252 "The back door was the point of entry." 00:27:46.294 --> 00:27:48.296 Detectives follow the hallway 00:27:48.338 --> 00:27:52.550 to the back bedroom and find an eerie crime scene. 00:27:53.760 --> 00:27:56.596 She was in bed, laying on her right side. 00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:58.723 She was covered with a comforter. 00:27:58.723 --> 00:28:02.227 There was very little blood seen around the blanket. 00:28:02.268 --> 00:28:05.605 The television is on and the expression on her face 00:28:05.689 --> 00:28:10.735 was of just sheer horror that she was looking into the person 00:28:10.735 --> 00:28:14.239 that she knew had just shot her and killed her. 00:28:17.784 --> 00:28:22.997 You can see a single gunshot had been fired into her back. 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:25.500 Whoever did it walked up behind her 00:28:25.583 --> 00:28:28.294 while she was asleep and fired a round... 00:28:30.213 --> 00:28:32.799 Straight through her spine. 00:28:32.882 --> 00:28:37.554 We found a .30 caliber bullet in the piping on the mattress. 00:28:37.595 --> 00:28:39.431 Using a .30 caliber rifle 00:28:39.472 --> 00:28:42.434 to shoot somebody in the back in their sleep is overkill. 00:28:42.475 --> 00:28:45.437 That's like driving a thumbtack with a sledgehammer. 00:28:45.478 --> 00:28:47.605 It was basically point blank. 00:28:47.647 --> 00:28:50.442 Investigators quickly assess that the area 00:28:50.483 --> 00:28:54.112 around the crime is anything but normal. 00:28:54.154 --> 00:28:55.655 All the cabinet doors, 00:28:55.739 --> 00:28:57.741 all the drawers were pulled open. 00:28:57.782 --> 00:28:59.242 But nothing was disturbed. 00:28:59.284 --> 00:29:04.205 It was the most adolescent attempt at staging a scene 00:29:04.247 --> 00:29:06.499 that I think I probably have ever seen. 00:29:06.541 --> 00:29:09.043 When investigators find the 911 caller, 00:29:09.085 --> 00:29:10.879 the husband of the victim, 00:29:10.962 --> 00:29:14.132 he is anxiously pacing outside the home. 00:29:14.174 --> 00:29:16.259 When I actually spoke to the husband, 00:29:16.301 --> 00:29:18.636 you could tell he was wound up tight as a banjo. 00:29:18.678 --> 00:29:21.473 So we told him we would set up a formal interview later on 00:29:21.514 --> 00:29:22.807 to give him a chance to kinda collect himself 00:29:22.849 --> 00:29:24.809 before he came in. 00:29:24.809 --> 00:29:27.312 Detectives learn the victim's name is Kasi 00:29:27.353 --> 00:29:30.315 and the husband is John. 00:29:30.356 --> 00:29:32.859 The investigators step into the interview room 00:29:32.942 --> 00:29:34.527 to speak with John, 00:29:34.569 --> 00:29:37.238 leaving it to their boss, Lieutenant Parker, 00:29:37.280 --> 00:29:39.616 to notify Kasi's family. 00:29:39.657 --> 00:29:41.993 I get a phone call from the lieutenant 00:29:42.076 --> 00:29:43.411 in the Smyrna Police Department 00:29:43.453 --> 00:29:46.831 telling me that my sister had been murdered. 00:29:46.873 --> 00:29:49.709 I recall saying, "Well, do you know 00:29:49.751 --> 00:29:54.589 "that John's previous wife was also murdered? 00:29:54.672 --> 00:29:57.467 Carol and Maggie were murdered with a claw hammer." 00:29:59.010 --> 00:30:01.429 And he did not know that. 00:30:01.471 --> 00:30:03.181 The lieutenant immediately pulls 00:30:03.181 --> 00:30:04.557 his investigators from their interview 00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:06.142 with the victim's husband 00:30:06.184 --> 00:30:09.479 in order to quickly reach out to Cobb County Homicide. 00:30:11.981 --> 00:30:14.859 I was in the office. Phone rings. 00:30:14.901 --> 00:30:17.821 It was the homicide lieutenant with the Smyrna PD. 00:30:17.862 --> 00:30:19.155 He said, 00:30:19.197 --> 00:30:23.660 "Does the name John Peek mean anything to you?" 00:30:23.701 --> 00:30:26.371 "Yup. What did he do now?" 00:30:26.412 --> 00:30:29.791 He said, "Well, we found his wife dead 00:30:29.874 --> 00:30:34.504 in her condominium down here in the city limits of Smyrna." 00:30:34.546 --> 00:30:37.298 After I heard that, the little red flags 00:30:37.340 --> 00:30:39.092 were popping up all over the place. 00:30:39.175 --> 00:30:40.468 I remember telling Ron, 00:30:40.510 --> 00:30:42.637 "You're not gonna find a murder weapon. 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:44.222 "You're not gonna find fingerprints. 00:30:44.222 --> 00:30:46.391 You're not gonna find an eyewitness." 00:30:46.432 --> 00:30:50.645 When he tells us this, it was on. 00:30:50.728 --> 00:30:53.189 Game on. 00:30:53.231 --> 00:30:54.649 After our five or ten-minute break, 00:30:54.732 --> 00:30:56.234 we go back in, offer him the water, 00:30:56.234 --> 00:31:00.572 whatever, you know, niceties of handling it. 00:31:00.613 --> 00:31:03.533 He's in there and he's open, "Hey, any more questions?" 00:31:03.575 --> 00:31:05.201 And I said, "Just one more thing. 00:31:05.243 --> 00:31:08.997 "Out of curiosity, is it all possible 00:31:09.080 --> 00:31:12.792 you were involved in something like this before?" 00:31:12.834 --> 00:31:15.628 He leaned forward and he went, "As a matter of fact, 00:31:15.670 --> 00:31:18.631 "I was the primary suspect in my last wife's murder. 00:31:18.673 --> 00:31:20.550 How about that?" 00:31:22.719 --> 00:31:24.512 Where was the emotion that your wife had just 00:31:24.554 --> 00:31:26.556 been murdered, shot in the back? 00:31:28.099 --> 00:31:30.852 It turns out, both wives had life insurance plans 00:31:30.935 --> 00:31:33.396 with John Peek the beneficiary. 00:31:33.438 --> 00:31:36.441 They sent a skinny detective into the sewer 00:31:36.524 --> 00:31:39.819 and found a .30 caliber bullet. 00:31:39.861 --> 00:31:41.487 It's a financial crime. 00:31:41.529 --> 00:31:43.781 There's a murder element to it, but it's a murder for money. 00:31:51.122 --> 00:31:52.957 Nine years after he was suspected 00:31:52.999 --> 00:31:54.709 of killing his first wife 00:31:54.792 --> 00:31:56.419 and her best friend in Marietta, 00:31:56.461 --> 00:31:59.881 John Peek is once again the prime suspect 00:31:59.964 --> 00:32:01.841 in a vicious killing. 00:32:01.883 --> 00:32:04.719 This time around, Smyrna Police believe 00:32:04.802 --> 00:32:08.723 he brutally murdered his second wife Kasi. 00:32:10.141 --> 00:32:13.436 She met John Labor Day of September 1999. 00:32:13.478 --> 00:32:15.605 They got married in May of 2000. 00:32:15.647 --> 00:32:18.232 When they got married, they bought the big house. 00:32:18.274 --> 00:32:20.610 It was a huge home. 00:32:20.652 --> 00:32:22.153 He was very nice, and he was good looking, 00:32:22.195 --> 00:32:24.781 and he was attentive, and he was very romantic, 00:32:24.822 --> 00:32:26.991 and he treated her very well. 00:32:26.991 --> 00:32:31.037 He was funny, affable, well-spoken, helpful. 00:32:31.120 --> 00:32:35.041 I was completely taken in by him. 00:32:35.124 --> 00:32:37.460 What he said about Kasi was that marrying her 00:32:37.502 --> 00:32:39.128 had helped him get over 00:32:39.170 --> 00:32:42.131 what happened to his prior wife, 00:32:42.173 --> 00:32:45.718 that his former wife had been murdered. 00:32:45.760 --> 00:32:46.844 We knew nothing about Carol. 00:32:46.886 --> 00:32:48.888 We just knew that she was killed, 00:32:48.930 --> 00:32:51.182 and it was tragic, and he was devastated. 00:32:51.265 --> 00:32:53.476 John's story was that it was like a drug deal 00:32:53.518 --> 00:32:55.019 or something like that. 00:32:55.103 --> 00:32:57.563 You know, and everything seemed to be fine for quite some time, 00:32:57.563 --> 00:32:59.565 until the day she called me 00:32:59.565 --> 00:33:03.569 that said he was cheating on her. 00:33:03.611 --> 00:33:05.613 After four years of marriage, 00:33:05.697 --> 00:33:08.574 Kasi moves out and gets a condo of her own. 00:33:08.574 --> 00:33:12.578 But she's never totally gotten past her love for John. 00:33:12.620 --> 00:33:15.206 She didn't want a divorce. She wanted to work it out. 00:33:15.248 --> 00:33:18.001 She did not want to have a divorce. 00:33:18.042 --> 00:33:21.462 So when John made this overture of getting back together, 00:33:21.504 --> 00:33:24.799 she was absolutely very happy about that. 00:33:24.882 --> 00:33:28.052 I was leery, but, you know. 00:33:28.094 --> 00:33:30.805 What do I know, you know? 00:33:30.888 --> 00:33:34.267 Just hours after his wife has been found murdered, 00:33:34.308 --> 00:33:38.521 a casual John Peek sits across from investigators. 00:33:38.604 --> 00:33:40.148 John Peek could get real comfortable 00:33:40.189 --> 00:33:43.609 and he'd just kinda lean back, and everything was fine. 00:33:43.609 --> 00:33:45.778 So where was the emotion that your wife had 00:33:45.862 --> 00:33:49.615 just been murdered, had just been shot in the back? 00:33:49.657 --> 00:33:54.287 The horror of having come in and found his wife, 00:33:54.328 --> 00:33:56.998 estranged or not, dead-- 00:33:57.040 --> 00:33:58.791 he was just flat. 00:33:58.875 --> 00:34:01.127 There was--there was no highs, there was no lows. 00:34:01.210 --> 00:34:05.173 It was just paste. Nothing. 00:34:05.214 --> 00:34:07.633 There was no sense of urgency 00:34:07.633 --> 00:34:09.969 to try to find out exactly what was going on. 00:34:10.053 --> 00:34:12.346 Homicide detectives dig for details 00:34:12.388 --> 00:34:13.973 on Peek's whereabouts 00:34:13.973 --> 00:34:16.809 during the night of his wife Kasi's slaying. 00:34:16.893 --> 00:34:20.354 He said that he had to go do some work at his home 00:34:20.396 --> 00:34:23.274 that he owned up near Lake Altoona. 00:34:23.316 --> 00:34:24.942 But then John came back. 00:34:24.984 --> 00:34:29.238 He walked into the house, found her in bed, 00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:33.242 and he ran out of the apartment calling 911. 00:34:33.284 --> 00:34:35.620 Investigators take John Peek home, 00:34:35.661 --> 00:34:38.831 with a search warrant firmly in hand. 00:34:38.831 --> 00:34:41.000 We're looking for murder weapons. 00:34:41.042 --> 00:34:43.920 Any kind of evidence for it whatsoever. 00:34:43.961 --> 00:34:46.923 I was standing with Mr. Peek the entire time of the search 00:34:46.964 --> 00:34:51.177 and I noticed that there was 50 CSI show tapes. 00:34:51.219 --> 00:34:53.930 I said, "You got a big interest in crime scene investigation?" 00:34:53.971 --> 00:34:57.266 And he said, "Yeah, I really like looking at that stuff." 00:34:57.308 --> 00:35:00.019 Investigators scour the rest of the property, 00:35:00.103 --> 00:35:01.854 inside and out, 00:35:01.854 --> 00:35:05.525 and discover what could be a key piece of evidence. 00:35:05.566 --> 00:35:09.695 They sent a skinny detective into the sewer 00:35:09.737 --> 00:35:12.573 and found a .30 caliber bullet. 00:35:14.951 --> 00:35:17.870 It looked like maybe John had thrown evidence 00:35:17.954 --> 00:35:21.374 into the sewer drains to see if he could get rid of them. 00:35:23.042 --> 00:35:24.710 Detectives conclude the bullet 00:35:24.710 --> 00:35:27.713 is from the same type of gun used in the killing, 00:35:27.755 --> 00:35:30.133 but since the murder weapon was never found, 00:35:30.174 --> 00:35:33.886 they can't tie it directly to Kasi's homicide. 00:35:33.970 --> 00:35:37.682 Police then discover clues of calculated premeditation 00:35:37.723 --> 00:35:40.309 on John Peek's computer. 00:35:40.351 --> 00:35:42.770 We did a search warrant on a computer, 00:35:42.854 --> 00:35:45.606 and we found he'd researched all the countries 00:35:45.690 --> 00:35:48.025 that he could go to to be an expatriate 00:35:48.067 --> 00:35:50.570 that didn't extradite. 00:35:50.570 --> 00:35:53.239 It was just amazing. I mean, holy smokes. 00:35:53.281 --> 00:35:54.657 Despite their discoveries, 00:35:54.740 --> 00:35:56.492 Smyrna detectives, 00:35:56.576 --> 00:35:58.369 just like Cobb County before them, 00:35:58.369 --> 00:36:01.497 still have no solid evidence linking John Peek 00:36:01.581 --> 00:36:03.082 to the murders, 00:36:03.166 --> 00:36:06.335 which leaves them with a purely circumstantial case. 00:36:06.377 --> 00:36:07.753 We didn't have the physical evidence 00:36:07.795 --> 00:36:09.922 that we would have liked to have had, 00:36:10.006 --> 00:36:12.925 but the district attorney's office, 00:36:13.009 --> 00:36:15.928 their idea was if we could build a big enough case, 00:36:16.012 --> 00:36:18.764 that eventually, he just couldn't wriggle free of it. 00:36:18.806 --> 00:36:23.019 Well, enter Jaquidon and her husband. 00:36:23.060 --> 00:36:24.312 While detectives scramble 00:36:24.353 --> 00:36:26.314 to put a solid case together, 00:36:26.355 --> 00:36:28.482 Kasi's sister and her husband 00:36:28.524 --> 00:36:31.235 take matters into their own hands. 00:36:31.277 --> 00:36:37.283 I was adamant that John would not profit from Kasi's murder. 00:36:37.325 --> 00:36:41.787 What we found out that with the civil suit, 00:36:41.829 --> 00:36:45.499 we had more discovery power than the police did. 00:36:45.541 --> 00:36:47.418 Civil suit came about 00:36:47.460 --> 00:36:50.087 because when we were talking to the police, 00:36:50.129 --> 00:36:52.381 they felt essentially, it's a financial crime. 00:36:52.423 --> 00:36:56.135 There's a murder element to it, but it's a murder for money. 00:36:56.177 --> 00:36:58.512 This was a couple who made pretty good money. 00:36:58.554 --> 00:37:01.974 They had life insurance, 401[k]s. 00:37:01.974 --> 00:37:03.976 They both had investment accounts. 00:37:03.976 --> 00:37:08.522 There were some assets there. So we filed a civil suit. 00:37:12.443 --> 00:37:16.280 The day, I think I had around 10,000 pages of documents. 00:37:16.322 --> 00:37:17.657 For months, 00:37:17.698 --> 00:37:20.284 the Krugers pore over the trove of files, 00:37:20.326 --> 00:37:23.120 looking for anything to share with law enforcement 00:37:23.162 --> 00:37:27.375 to build a criminal case against John Peek. 00:37:27.416 --> 00:37:28.876 I pulled this piece of paper out 00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.838 and I--I mean I looked at it, read it again, 00:37:32.838 --> 00:37:36.384 and I jumped up and said, "Look at this." 00:37:36.425 --> 00:37:38.344 This is the thing I've been looking for. 00:37:45.309 --> 00:37:47.687 Cobb County sheriffs and Smyrna PD homicide 00:37:47.687 --> 00:37:51.857 detectives are in pursuit of a Lockheed software engineer 00:37:51.899 --> 00:37:53.859 who appears to have killed three women, 00:37:53.901 --> 00:37:57.697 Maggie Ginn, Carol Marlin, and Kasi Peek, 00:37:57.738 --> 00:38:00.741 over the course of nearly a decade. 00:38:00.825 --> 00:38:03.869 And it's Kasi Peek's family's fierce determination 00:38:03.869 --> 00:38:05.371 during the civil suit 00:38:05.413 --> 00:38:09.208 that leads to a major breakthrough in the case. 00:38:09.250 --> 00:38:11.711 My task was to get all the paperwork 00:38:11.711 --> 00:38:13.087 for all of their finances 00:38:13.170 --> 00:38:15.089 and see if there was any information in there 00:38:15.172 --> 00:38:17.383 that would be useful to the police. 00:38:17.425 --> 00:38:19.677 Out of that, approximately 10,000 pages 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:21.053 of subpoenaed documents, 00:38:21.053 --> 00:38:24.932 it was a one-page letter telling John to stop 00:38:25.016 --> 00:38:30.229 double paying his insurance premium for this life policy. 00:38:30.229 --> 00:38:31.647 The life insurance policy 00:38:31.731 --> 00:38:34.150 was being automatically drafted every month. 00:38:34.191 --> 00:38:36.819 Yet, every month, 00:38:36.902 --> 00:38:39.905 he kept on sending them a paper check as well. 00:38:39.989 --> 00:38:41.991 It's pretty clear that he was concerned 00:38:42.033 --> 00:38:44.744 that Kasi would cancel that policy. 00:38:44.785 --> 00:38:47.163 He was double covering his bases to make sure 00:38:47.204 --> 00:38:49.915 that that policy was enforced when he pulled the trigger. 00:38:51.625 --> 00:38:54.628 David Kruger's discovery of John Peek 00:38:54.670 --> 00:38:57.256 paying to keep Kasi's life insurance active 00:38:57.298 --> 00:39:00.593 before she died establishes a pattern 00:39:00.634 --> 00:39:03.471 linking the murders together. 00:39:03.512 --> 00:39:06.390 Using the similarities of the Smyrna case, 00:39:06.432 --> 00:39:08.225 we were dealing with a wife, 00:39:08.267 --> 00:39:10.227 even though it was a common law wife, 00:39:10.269 --> 00:39:12.355 a relationship gone bad. 00:39:12.396 --> 00:39:14.398 Both wives had life insurance plans 00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:16.609 with John Peek the beneficiary. 00:39:16.609 --> 00:39:19.070 The crime scenes were made 00:39:19.111 --> 00:39:22.448 to make it look like a burglary. 00:39:22.490 --> 00:39:24.283 He had killed, it appeared to be, 00:39:24.283 --> 00:39:27.411 for monetary reasons. 00:39:27.453 --> 00:39:28.704 The striking parallels 00:39:28.788 --> 00:39:31.415 between the murders of John Peek's wives 00:39:31.457 --> 00:39:34.085 are enough to convince the district attorney 00:39:34.126 --> 00:39:36.712 to finally file murder charges. 00:39:36.796 --> 00:39:40.091 We got to a point where we put an affidavit together. 00:39:41.675 --> 00:39:43.302 Within a few days, 00:39:43.386 --> 00:39:46.472 warrants were taken for the murder of Kasi Peek. 00:39:46.514 --> 00:39:48.307 They were charged in two separate cases. 00:39:48.307 --> 00:39:52.019 They had been admitted as evidence in each other's case. 00:39:53.979 --> 00:39:55.481 Once the warrant was signed and we knew 00:39:55.523 --> 00:39:58.275 that we were gonna go affect the arrest, 00:39:58.317 --> 00:40:01.028 Eddie Herman had given me a phone call 00:40:01.112 --> 00:40:03.989 based on how he had been really tracking on this guy 00:40:04.031 --> 00:40:06.158 for so many years, could he be the one 00:40:06.200 --> 00:40:09.328 that actually put the handcuffs on him? 00:40:09.412 --> 00:40:11.664 "Of course, you know. Sure, brother, go ahead. 00:40:11.705 --> 00:40:13.290 You know, hook him up." 00:40:14.417 --> 00:40:16.627 I went out the next morning, 00:40:16.669 --> 00:40:18.003 knocked on the door. 00:40:18.045 --> 00:40:21.132 He answered the door, and I told him, 00:40:21.173 --> 00:40:24.009 I said, "This is long overdue. You're under arrest." 00:40:25.761 --> 00:40:29.390 He just turned around, put his hands behind his back. 00:40:29.473 --> 00:40:32.435 It was just like, "Well, just didn't quite 00:40:32.476 --> 00:40:35.729 get through this one the way I had the last time." 00:40:36.564 --> 00:40:39.275 John Peek is finally arrested 00:40:39.316 --> 00:40:41.777 and charged with murder. 00:40:41.861 --> 00:40:43.195 The murders were charged separately. 00:40:43.279 --> 00:40:44.697 They were charged in two separate cases. 00:40:44.738 --> 00:40:47.366 They were gonna try him first on Kasi's murder, 00:40:47.366 --> 00:40:49.910 and he told John that if they got a conviction on that, 00:40:49.952 --> 00:40:52.872 that they were gonna go after the death penalty 00:40:52.913 --> 00:40:54.331 for Carol and Maggie's murder. 00:40:54.373 --> 00:40:56.834 We had a trial date set. Within a week or so, 00:40:56.876 --> 00:41:00.296 the defense approached us about entering a plea. 00:41:00.337 --> 00:41:03.215 His attorney said, "John, plead guilty, 00:41:03.257 --> 00:41:05.509 "or you're likely to be taking a dirt nap 00:41:05.551 --> 00:41:08.679 at the behest of the state of Georgia." 00:41:08.721 --> 00:41:09.930 He pleaded guilty 00:41:09.972 --> 00:41:13.601 to the murder of three individuals. 00:41:13.642 --> 00:41:17.396 He asked for a life sentence with the possibility of parole. 00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:19.648 He agreed to waive appeals, 00:41:19.690 --> 00:41:21.066 agreed to waive 00:41:21.066 --> 00:41:23.402 any post-conviction remedies of any kind. 00:41:23.486 --> 00:41:24.695 But the relief in knowing 00:41:24.737 --> 00:41:26.322 justice has been served 00:41:26.322 --> 00:41:29.074 who will be shattered and broken forever. 00:41:29.116 --> 00:41:33.204 It's kind of sad that it took him killing again 00:41:33.204 --> 00:41:35.706 for justice to be served. 00:41:35.748 --> 00:41:37.541 I believe he would have done this 00:41:37.541 --> 00:41:39.043 repeatedly throughout his lifetime 00:41:39.043 --> 00:41:41.378 had Detective Herman and Detective Waddell 00:41:41.462 --> 00:41:43.881 not stopped this. 00:41:43.923 --> 00:41:46.884 He took three lives away from three families 00:41:46.926 --> 00:41:50.054 and changed countless lives forever. 00:41:51.514 --> 00:41:53.641 There's so many things that I wish I knew. 00:41:53.682 --> 00:41:56.227 I wish I had had her in my life long enough 00:41:56.268 --> 00:41:58.646 to have an adult relationship with her 00:41:58.687 --> 00:42:01.815 and know her as a person and her know me as a person. 00:42:01.857 --> 00:42:05.569 One thing about my sister was 00:42:05.653 --> 00:42:07.238 she was one of the most generous people 00:42:07.279 --> 00:42:08.572 that you would know. 00:42:08.656 --> 00:42:10.324 If Kasi had been a rich person, 00:42:10.407 --> 00:42:13.244 she'd have been building hospitals. 00:42:13.244 --> 00:42:14.828 The thing I miss most about my sister 00:42:14.870 --> 00:42:17.581 is the history I've lost with her. 00:42:17.581 --> 00:42:19.792 Now that both my parents are gone, 00:42:19.833 --> 00:42:21.877 I'm the last one of my nuclear family. 00:42:21.919 --> 00:42:24.547 And Kasi was the person who would have known 00:42:24.588 --> 00:42:28.884 some of these things, and I've lost that history. 00:42:29.802 --> 00:42:32.429 I just miss being around her 00:42:32.429 --> 00:42:35.432 and having fun and laughing till I cry. 00:42:35.516 --> 00:42:37.309 I could laugh with her in a way 00:42:37.393 --> 00:42:41.605 that I have never laughed with anybody in my life. 00:42:41.605 --> 00:42:45.526 And she was just full of such joy and energy. 00:42:45.568 --> 00:42:47.319 She was just a joy to be around.