WEBVTT 00:00:01.610 --> 00:00:03.177 Previously on Alaska Daily... 00:00:03.177 --> 00:00:04.917 Mr. Crenshaw. You're being charged with 00:00:04.917 --> 00:00:07.703 murder in the first degree in the death of Gloria Nanmac. 00:00:07.703 --> 00:00:09.009 The DNA they found was semen. 00:00:09.009 --> 00:00:10.662 Then the signed confession. 00:00:10.662 --> 00:00:13.317 So how did he plead not guilty if he signed a confession? 00:00:13.317 --> 00:00:14.623 I need your story on the arraignment 00:00:14.623 --> 00:00:17.147 - and the presser by 6:00. - It's 4:30. 00:00:17.147 --> 00:00:19.367 You can do a Day Two tomorrow. Keep going. 00:00:19.367 --> 00:00:21.412 We've been pushing this story uphill for months. 00:00:21.412 --> 00:00:23.719 Now, suddenly, it's rolling downhill fast. 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:25.895 Did we just play a part in the rush to judgment? 00:00:25.895 --> 00:00:28.028 Conrad Pritchard bought these parcels. 00:00:28.028 --> 00:00:29.594 He's building a rare earths mine 00:00:29.594 --> 00:00:30.813 at Hockley Mountain? 00:00:30.813 --> 00:00:32.249 We're planning to publish tomorrow morning. 00:00:32.249 --> 00:00:33.294 Have we gone to him for comment? 00:00:33.294 --> 00:00:34.773 Austin's headed over there now. 00:00:34.773 --> 00:00:36.079 He's never gonna talk to Austin. 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:37.298 We still have to report it. 00:00:37.298 --> 00:00:38.603 What the hell did you do? 00:00:38.603 --> 00:00:40.518 You want a war? You got one. 00:00:40.518 --> 00:00:41.867 Did you * assault Gloria? 00:00:41.867 --> 00:00:43.130 I would never do that. 00:00:43.130 --> 00:00:45.132 - So, what happened? - Gloria was mad. 00:00:45.132 --> 00:00:46.481 She called, and I didn't pick up. 00:00:46.481 --> 00:00:48.439 There weren't any calls placed from her phone 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:49.484 the night she went missing. 00:00:49.484 --> 00:00:50.963 She left a voicemail. 00:00:50.963 --> 00:00:53.314 Toby. I'm sorry for what I said. 00:00:53.314 --> 00:00:54.706 You know I love you. 00:00:54.706 --> 00:00:55.925 Please come get me. 00:00:55.925 --> 00:00:57.100 This number, the one she's calling from, 00:00:57.100 --> 00:00:58.754 that's not her number. 00:00:58.754 --> 00:01:00.277 Could belong to the person who killed her. 00:01:04.542 --> 00:01:05.674 What? 00:01:07.154 --> 00:01:08.459 Eileen? 00:01:11.114 --> 00:01:12.376 What? 00:01:12.376 --> 00:01:14.074 What were you thinking about? 00:01:14.074 --> 00:01:16.032 Oh. 00:01:16.032 --> 00:01:17.773 My colleague, Bob. 00:01:19.035 --> 00:01:22.082 The earnest one. 00:01:22.082 --> 00:01:23.866 Yeah. 00:01:23.866 --> 00:01:25.955 The earnest one. 00:01:25.955 --> 00:01:28.784 You said you enjoyed provoking him. 00:01:28.784 --> 00:01:30.133 In a good-natured way. 00:01:30.133 --> 00:01:31.917 I believe I prefaced my admission with that. 00:01:31.917 --> 00:01:33.093 You did, indeed. 00:01:34.964 --> 00:01:37.880 So what about Bob? 00:01:37.880 --> 00:01:40.317 His wife is sick, and it's progressing quickly. 00:01:40.317 --> 00:01:42.711 Mm. And? 00:01:42.711 --> 00:01:44.408 I ran into him in the bullpen yesterday. 00:01:44.408 --> 00:01:45.453 I asked him how he was doing 00:01:45.453 --> 00:01:48.804 and he... gave me a real answer. 00:01:48.804 --> 00:01:50.806 What did he say? 00:01:50.806 --> 00:01:52.112 He said he was hanging in there, 00:01:52.112 --> 00:01:54.070 but it was a very difficult time. 00:01:55.332 --> 00:01:57.073 So he told you the truth. 00:01:57.073 --> 00:01:58.944 He didn't cover. 00:01:58.944 --> 00:02:01.382 - Did that surprise you? - No. 00:02:01.382 --> 00:02:03.645 But as a general rule, I don't encourage people 00:02:03.645 --> 00:02:05.516 to share their burden with me, 00:02:05.516 --> 00:02:07.997 especially people in pain. 00:02:09.041 --> 00:02:11.000 Because it makes you uncomfortable? 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:12.088 No, because I don't want them to feel like 00:02:12.088 --> 00:02:14.395 they have to reciprocate and ask me. 00:02:14.395 --> 00:02:16.614 - Are you in pain? - That's not the point. 00:02:16.614 --> 00:02:18.007 What is the point? 00:02:19.139 --> 00:02:21.184 It was out of character for me to even ask. 00:02:21.184 --> 00:02:22.968 I don't do that. 00:02:22.968 --> 00:02:24.318 Especially at work. 00:02:24.318 --> 00:02:26.537 Why do you think you did that? 00:02:28.670 --> 00:02:30.759 I don't know. 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:34.763 Maybe I'm still sideways from being held hostage. 00:02:34.763 --> 00:02:37.853 Or maybe, intentionally or not, you did want him 00:02:37.853 --> 00:02:40.682 to reciprocate and ask you how you were doing. 00:02:40.682 --> 00:02:41.726 Yeah, I don't think so. 00:02:41.726 --> 00:02:43.772 Like I said, that's not like me. 00:02:45.208 --> 00:02:47.079 People change. 00:02:47.079 --> 00:02:50.387 Well, have you had any panic attacks lately? 00:02:53.564 --> 00:02:55.653 No. I haven't. 00:03:07.143 --> 00:03:09.537 We listened to Gloria's voicemail on your phone. 00:03:09.537 --> 00:03:10.886 She called from a different number 00:03:10.886 --> 00:03:12.540 than the one Sylvie gave us. 00:03:14.194 --> 00:03:16.718 Do you know whose number this is? 00:03:18.807 --> 00:03:21.026 It was hers. 00:03:21.026 --> 00:03:22.158 Her other phone. 00:03:22.158 --> 00:03:24.160 Sylvie was getting in her business. 00:03:24.160 --> 00:03:27.032 She didn't want her to call me. 00:03:27.032 --> 00:03:28.947 So she got a pay-as-you-go phone. 00:03:28.947 --> 00:03:31.472 She had it for a few weeks before she died. 00:03:31.472 --> 00:03:34.431 There's no record of this number in the police report. 00:03:34.431 --> 00:03:35.954 Well, it's hers. 00:03:35.954 --> 00:03:37.173 It was hers. 00:03:39.741 --> 00:03:40.916 You okay? 00:03:40.916 --> 00:03:42.265 It *s in here. 00:03:43.658 --> 00:03:44.833 I hate it. 00:03:44.833 --> 00:03:47.444 My Change of Plea hearing is next week. 00:03:47.444 --> 00:03:50.012 I thought I could just plead guilty and that would be it. 00:03:50.012 --> 00:03:51.840 But Jimmy says I have to tell the judge 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:55.104 that I raped Gloria and that I beat her to death. 00:03:55.104 --> 00:03:57.106 It's called an allocution. 00:03:57.106 --> 00:03:59.674 Makes it really hard to claim your innocence later. 00:03:59.674 --> 00:04:01.371 I never hurt her. 00:04:03.068 --> 00:04:05.288 But I can't get the deal unless I say I did. 00:04:06.333 --> 00:04:07.899 That's messed up. 00:04:07.899 --> 00:04:09.510 Yeah. 00:04:09.510 --> 00:04:10.728 It is. 00:04:10.728 --> 00:04:12.295 You believe me, right? 00:04:12.295 --> 00:04:16.081 We're doing everything we can to find the truth. 00:04:16.081 --> 00:04:18.649 I just told you the truth. 00:04:18.649 --> 00:04:23.045 Claire, did you write that piece on the weeping spruce blight 00:04:23.045 --> 00:04:24.525 - a couple of years ago? - I did. 00:04:24.525 --> 00:04:27.528 Uh, March, I think, 2018. Why? 00:04:27.528 --> 00:04:30.748 Our big blue spruce seems to have contracted the blight. 00:04:30.748 --> 00:04:33.273 The one in your backyard? Too bad. 00:04:33.273 --> 00:04:34.839 My parents lost one of their spruces, 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:37.233 but they saved the other one with a fungicide. 00:04:37.233 --> 00:04:38.930 If you need a rec, let me know. 00:04:38.930 --> 00:04:41.716 A gang of yellow-rumped warblers hangs out in our spruce. 00:04:41.716 --> 00:04:44.675 Colleen says the fungicide'll poison them. 00:04:44.675 --> 00:04:46.155 I'm inclined to save the tree. 00:04:46.155 --> 00:04:48.375 Flora or fauna. It's a Sophie's choice. 00:04:48.375 --> 00:04:50.333 - I've never seen that movie. - It's a riot. 00:04:50.333 --> 00:04:52.727 If I remember correctly, weeping spruce blight 00:04:52.727 --> 00:04:54.903 is caused by a non-native species. 00:04:54.903 --> 00:04:58.341 Non-native species. The root problems of all Alaska. 00:04:58.341 --> 00:05:00.561 Roz Friendly, ladies and gentlemen. 00:05:00.561 --> 00:05:02.432 To be fair, we were talking flora. 00:05:02.432 --> 00:05:03.477 The fact still remains, doesn't it? 00:05:03.477 --> 00:05:04.695 Roz, coming in hot. 00:05:04.695 --> 00:05:06.349 Whoa, is the copier fixed? 00:05:06.349 --> 00:05:08.525 It is, in fact, working. 00:05:08.525 --> 00:05:09.918 That's excellent. 00:05:09.918 --> 00:05:12.137 But I used the last toner cartridge printing these. 00:05:12.137 --> 00:05:14.139 - That's un-excellent. - Yeah. 00:05:14.139 --> 00:05:17.839 Jindaháa and I are doing the MMIW database together. 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:19.144 Hey. 00:05:22.060 --> 00:05:24.628 Yeah, so, these are the calls I transcribed off the tip line. 00:05:24.628 --> 00:05:27.022 These are articles the paper ran about MMIW 00:05:27.022 --> 00:05:28.415 over the past 15 years. 00:05:28.415 --> 00:05:30.417 These are cases I pulled off of CourtView. 00:05:30.417 --> 00:05:32.419 And all these boxes came to us from JCAN. 00:05:32.419 --> 00:05:34.203 Alberta dropped them off yesterday. 00:05:34.203 --> 00:05:36.379 How much have you entered into the spreadsheet already? 00:05:36.379 --> 00:05:38.903 About this much. 00:05:40.122 --> 00:05:43.125 - We're gonna need some help. - Yeah. Lots. 00:05:43.125 --> 00:05:44.996 All right, so, uh, Teletrove says 00:05:44.996 --> 00:05:46.781 Gloria's burner was bought with cash 00:05:46.781 --> 00:05:47.956 and it wasn't registered. 00:05:47.956 --> 00:05:49.479 Since there's no name attached, 00:05:49.479 --> 00:05:51.481 they won't turn over records to Sylvie as next-of-kin. 00:05:51.481 --> 00:05:53.353 What about you? 00:05:53.353 --> 00:05:55.398 I can't stop listening to her voicemail. 00:05:55.398 --> 00:05:57.444 Gloria tells Toby that she loves him. 00:05:57.444 --> 00:05:58.575 That doesn't sound like a woman 00:05:58.575 --> 00:06:00.360 reaching out to a man who raped her. 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:01.883 And then there's the other voices. 00:06:01.883 --> 00:06:03.406 Other voices? 00:06:03.406 --> 00:06:05.669 It's faint, but you can hear men talking in the background. 00:06:06.322 --> 00:06:07.715 Toby, answer your phone. 00:06:07.715 --> 00:06:09.456 Can't make out 00:06:09.456 --> 00:06:10.631 what they're saying, but we need to know 00:06:10.631 --> 00:06:11.936 - who they are. - I'm sorry 00:06:11.936 --> 00:06:13.547 - for what I said. - Assuming it's not Toby. 00:06:13.547 --> 00:06:14.809 - You know I love you. - We need a tech nerd. 00:06:14.809 --> 00:06:16.332 - This place is bad. - I got a guy. 00:06:16.332 --> 00:06:18.247 You do? In house? 00:06:18.247 --> 00:06:19.291 No, strip mall. 00:06:20.467 --> 00:06:22.643 A sound guy in this-- this strip mall? 00:06:22.643 --> 00:06:25.123 Yeah, Al. He owns Al's Dank Buds. 00:06:25.123 --> 00:06:27.691 Oh, this I gotta see. 00:06:27.691 --> 00:06:31.434 Zach's entire extended family is in Chicago. 00:06:31.434 --> 00:06:34.698 He'll have grandparents, aunts, uncles, 00:06:34.698 --> 00:06:36.831 cousins his own age to play with. 00:06:36.831 --> 00:06:38.267 But he won't have his father. 00:06:38.267 --> 00:06:40.225 Ah, he'll come for a stretch in the summer. 00:06:40.225 --> 00:06:41.705 A stretch? 00:06:42.489 --> 00:06:45.927 This job will allow me to pay for a better life-- 00:06:45.927 --> 00:06:48.712 private school, plus savings for college. 00:06:48.712 --> 00:06:50.453 A-- A house with a pool. 00:06:50.453 --> 00:06:51.802 You know he's always wanted that. 00:06:51.802 --> 00:06:53.064 You've always wanted that. 00:06:53.064 --> 00:06:55.589 He has a great life here. He loves his school. 00:06:55.589 --> 00:06:58.156 You wanna rip him away from all his friends? 00:06:58.156 --> 00:06:59.419 Soccer, hockey? 00:06:59.419 --> 00:07:00.985 They have those in Chicago, and at least 00:07:00.985 --> 00:07:03.292 I'll be able to provide him with a safe environment. 00:07:03.292 --> 00:07:04.598 What the hell does that mean? 00:07:04.598 --> 00:07:06.513 Okay, let's keep it respectful. 00:07:06.513 --> 00:07:07.818 Every time you have him, 00:07:07.818 --> 00:07:09.341 you end up bringing him to that newsroom... 00:07:09.341 --> 00:07:10.430 He loves that newsroom. 00:07:10.430 --> 00:07:12.344 ...where an armed gunman recently 00:07:12.344 --> 00:07:14.172 held one of your colleagues hostage. 00:07:14.172 --> 00:07:16.000 What kind of place is that for a child? 00:07:16.784 --> 00:07:18.046 Are you kidding? 00:07:23.486 --> 00:07:24.574 We have a custody agreement. 00:07:24.574 --> 00:07:26.837 You do. 00:07:26.837 --> 00:07:29.840 But if we can't come to a compromise here, 00:07:29.840 --> 00:07:31.886 it'll go back to the court. 00:07:31.886 --> 00:07:34.802 And we all agreed we're trying to avoid that, right? 00:07:37.152 --> 00:07:38.980 First time I've been in here. 00:07:38.980 --> 00:07:40.895 Yeah, not me. 00:07:44.376 --> 00:07:46.074 Hey, look at this. 00:07:46.074 --> 00:07:47.641 Matanuska Thunderfunk. 00:07:47.641 --> 00:07:49.947 - How good is this guy? - Good. 00:07:49.947 --> 00:07:51.079 Weed's his business, 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:53.168 but this guy's a next-level audiophile. 00:07:53.168 --> 00:07:56.606 I used him to dig out a bad recording a few years ago. 00:07:56.606 --> 00:07:57.825 Groovy. 00:07:57.825 --> 00:08:00.131 Roz! Come on back. 00:08:02.177 --> 00:08:03.308 Who's she? 00:08:03.308 --> 00:08:04.745 I'm Eileen. We're partners. 00:08:04.745 --> 00:08:06.268 - Hi, Al. - Hi, Eileen. 00:08:06.268 --> 00:08:07.399 - Any luck? - Yeah. 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:09.097 I tried to filter out Gloria's voice 00:08:09.097 --> 00:08:10.577 and amplify the background. 00:08:10.577 --> 00:08:12.579 I also reduced the low frequencies. 00:08:12.579 --> 00:08:14.494 They were distorting. 00:08:14.494 --> 00:08:16.147 Anyway, take a listen. 00:08:20.195 --> 00:08:21.544 Daddy, I wanna go. 00:08:21.544 --> 00:08:23.154 Is that a kid? 00:08:26.636 --> 00:08:28.682 Daddy, I wanna go. 00:08:28.682 --> 00:08:30.379 That's a kid. 00:08:30.379 --> 00:08:33.469 I can put an audio file of this on your phone. 00:08:33.469 --> 00:08:35.471 Ezra Fisher said he left Skeeter's 00:08:35.471 --> 00:08:38.082 to go get his son that night, but never went back. 00:08:38.082 --> 00:08:39.693 If we can confirm that that's his kid, 00:08:39.693 --> 00:08:41.172 then he didn't leave before Gloria. 00:08:41.172 --> 00:08:42.739 And he loses his alibi. 00:08:47.527 --> 00:08:49.267 - Hey, Bob. - Hey. 00:08:49.267 --> 00:08:51.792 Stanley said you have a contact at Teletrove Cellular. 00:08:51.792 --> 00:08:54.708 Yeah, my buddy Gary is VP of Public Relations. 00:08:54.708 --> 00:08:56.274 We founded the home brew collective 00:08:56.274 --> 00:08:57.711 you've heard me reference-- 00:08:57.711 --> 00:08:59.321 Anchorage Yeasty Boys. 00:08:59.321 --> 00:09:00.888 Yeah. Cool. 00:09:00.888 --> 00:09:03.194 Uh, do you think that Gary could help us track down 00:09:03.194 --> 00:09:04.413 the records for this number? 00:09:04.413 --> 00:09:06.154 It was Gloria Nanmac's. 00:09:06.850 --> 00:09:07.851 Happy to ask him. 00:09:07.851 --> 00:09:10.288 Cheers. Appreciate it. 00:09:18.862 --> 00:09:20.908 Taylor, I just have a few questions. It won't take long. 00:09:20.908 --> 00:09:22.126 I don't want to talk to you. 00:09:22.126 --> 00:09:23.475 Then don't. Just listen. 00:09:24.651 --> 00:09:26.827 - You're gonna want to hear this. - What? 00:09:26.827 --> 00:09:28.132 A voicemail Gloria Nanmac left 00:09:28.132 --> 00:09:30.744 on someone's phone the night she died. 00:09:30.744 --> 00:09:33.268 She was calling from this drug dealer's house-- 00:09:33.268 --> 00:09:34.399 Skeeter Redding. 00:09:36.793 --> 00:09:39.317 Daddy, I wanna go. 00:09:40.536 --> 00:09:42.451 Is that Jackson? 00:09:42.451 --> 00:09:44.801 Because if it is, I'd like to talk to him. 00:09:44.801 --> 00:09:46.716 You're not talking to my son. 00:09:46.716 --> 00:09:48.196 He's 10. No way. 00:09:48.196 --> 00:09:50.415 Taylor, please. If he was there-- 00:09:50.415 --> 00:09:52.069 He's got nothing to do with this. 00:09:52.069 --> 00:09:54.463 You show up again, I call the cops. 00:09:54.463 --> 00:09:55.943 Then can you at least tell me where Ezra is? 00:09:55.943 --> 00:09:59.294 Yeah, I can. 00:09:59.294 --> 00:10:01.557 Because I have to see him twice a week, 00:10:01.557 --> 00:10:03.298 because I don't have full custody. 00:10:03.298 --> 00:10:05.082 Because my case fell apart after your article 00:10:05.082 --> 00:10:06.736 took down my prosecutor. 00:10:06.736 --> 00:10:09.826 Taylor, I know this *s, 00:10:09.826 --> 00:10:12.307 but I don't want an innocent guy to go to jail. 00:10:14.352 --> 00:10:16.441 He just got back into town. 00:10:16.441 --> 00:10:20.968 He's laying fiber-optic cable over on Spenard. 00:10:20.968 --> 00:10:22.839 Now unless you want to lose it, get your foot out of my door. 00:10:35.547 --> 00:10:38.768 Bunny, you're with me coding the ontology. 00:10:38.768 --> 00:10:40.988 You have the conceptual schema? 00:10:40.988 --> 00:10:43.033 It's mapped, but I'm still building the engine. 00:10:43.033 --> 00:10:44.513 Erica, Trudy, you're both in charge 00:10:44.513 --> 00:10:45.949 of the graphical user interface. 00:10:45.949 --> 00:10:48.996 Marsha, you and I are doing data filing. 00:10:48.996 --> 00:10:51.433 Our goal is a working beta to demo by this weekend. 00:10:51.433 --> 00:10:52.652 Seriously? 00:10:52.652 --> 00:10:53.827 We don't need full functionality, 00:10:53.827 --> 00:10:55.437 - just proof of concept. - We can do it. 00:10:55.437 --> 00:10:56.612 It's gonna take a few days. 00:10:56.612 --> 00:10:58.005 We have a few days. And food. 00:10:58.005 --> 00:10:59.963 - And coffee. - Life's essentials. 00:10:59.963 --> 00:11:01.704 But we'll need to stay on this 'round the clock. 00:11:01.704 --> 00:11:03.053 - Any conflicts? - Well, I have 00:11:03.053 --> 00:11:04.185 my parameterized model 00:11:04.185 --> 00:11:05.969 of sea-ice dynamics due in two days. 00:11:05.969 --> 00:11:07.318 What's that, and due to who? 00:11:07.318 --> 00:11:09.233 Well, it's a model that hindcasts and forecasts 00:11:09.233 --> 00:11:11.366 sea-ice dynamics based on varying climate conditions, 00:11:11.366 --> 00:11:14.238 - and it's due to NASA. - Wow. 00:11:14.238 --> 00:11:16.414 - So you're that kind of smart. - JINDAHAÁA: She is. 00:11:16.414 --> 00:11:17.589 - Can you do both? - Yeah. 00:11:17.589 --> 00:11:19.896 I-I just wanted to be transparent. 00:11:19.896 --> 00:11:21.506 Well, thank you so much for being here. 00:11:21.506 --> 00:11:22.986 All of you, really. 00:11:22.986 --> 00:11:26.294 This is very important, and it's so helpful. 00:11:26.294 --> 00:11:28.513 And the clock is ticking, so let's go. 00:11:32.213 --> 00:11:35.129 Taylor listened to it. She recognized her kid's voice. 00:11:35.129 --> 00:11:36.913 So Ezra lied about leaving Skeeter's 00:11:36.913 --> 00:11:38.741 to pick up his kid? 00:11:38.741 --> 00:11:40.700 Yeah. And Jackson was with him, which is *ed up. 00:11:40.700 --> 00:11:43.441 Sounds like he got back into town and is working on Spenard. 00:11:43.441 --> 00:11:44.747 I'm gonna try and track him down. 00:11:44.747 --> 00:11:46.096 Back in town from where? 00:11:46.096 --> 00:11:48.533 Whatever village he was working in. Why? 00:11:48.533 --> 00:11:51.972 W-- He was in Meade for work when Gloria disappeared, right? 00:11:51.972 --> 00:11:54.235 - Installing high-speed Internet? - Yeah. 00:11:54.235 --> 00:11:55.758 And he's been all over the state for the job, 00:11:55.758 --> 00:11:58.065 laying cables in lots of different villages, right? 00:11:58.065 --> 00:11:59.719 Right. Yeah. 00:11:59.719 --> 00:12:01.242 So we find out where he was when-- 00:12:01.242 --> 00:12:02.678 See if he hurt anyone else. 00:12:02.678 --> 00:12:03.897 Try to establish a pattern. 00:12:03.897 --> 00:12:05.246 Talk later. 00:12:05.246 --> 00:12:07.204 - Hey, Austin. - What's up? 00:12:07.204 --> 00:12:08.902 Need a favor. 00:12:08.902 --> 00:12:11.295 Can you pull the stories you've written about Denali Broadband 00:12:11.295 --> 00:12:12.906 installing Internet service across the state? 00:12:12.906 --> 00:12:14.734 Sure. For the Nanmac story? 00:12:14.734 --> 00:12:16.387 Yeah. We're trying to track the movements of a guy 00:12:16.387 --> 00:12:18.041 we think might be involved. 00:12:18.041 --> 00:12:19.782 Okay. The articles don't usually mention the names 00:12:19.782 --> 00:12:21.088 of the workers. 00:12:21.088 --> 00:12:22.437 We're just looking for the dates 00:12:22.437 --> 00:12:24.613 that Denali hired workers in various villages. 00:12:24.613 --> 00:12:26.397 - Hard copies please? - Uh, printer's down, 00:12:26.397 --> 00:12:28.486 but I'll pull clips from the archive. 00:12:29.618 --> 00:12:32.012 Eileen, I heard back from my source at Teletrove. 00:12:32.012 --> 00:12:33.796 He said the records are confidential. 00:12:33.796 --> 00:12:35.667 Without a court order, he can't share them. 00:12:35.667 --> 00:12:36.799 Sorry. 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:38.366 Maybe take another run at him. 00:12:38.366 --> 00:12:40.585 His answer was pretty firm. 00:12:40.585 --> 00:12:43.110 Well, no is easier than yes, right? 00:12:43.110 --> 00:12:45.547 Give him another push. It's important. 00:12:47.723 --> 00:12:50.770 Hey. 00:12:50.770 --> 00:12:53.468 How did your custody mediation thing go this morning? 00:12:54.861 --> 00:12:56.601 Wonderful. Smiles all around. 00:12:56.601 --> 00:12:59.822 - That bad? - Yeah, kinda intense. 00:12:59.822 --> 00:13:02.477 - Got in my head. - How so? 00:13:02.477 --> 00:13:04.218 I'm starting to wonder if maybe she's right. 00:13:04.218 --> 00:13:06.916 Maybe Zach would be better off in Chicago. 00:13:08.352 --> 00:13:10.398 More family. More opportunities. 00:13:10.398 --> 00:13:12.617 He seems like a happy kid to me. 00:13:12.617 --> 00:13:14.054 I know, right? 00:13:14.054 --> 00:13:15.664 I mean, he is happy. 00:13:17.231 --> 00:13:19.146 But he would be close to cousins. 00:13:19.146 --> 00:13:22.845 Doesn't have any here. I mean, am I being selfish? 00:13:22.845 --> 00:13:26.370 For not wanting to uproot Zach so your ex can get a better job? 00:13:26.370 --> 00:13:27.850 No. 00:13:27.850 --> 00:13:29.417 Okay, stop beating around the bush. 00:13:29.417 --> 00:13:30.679 Tell me what you really think. 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:31.941 I will. 00:13:31.941 --> 00:13:34.509 Always. 00:13:35.902 --> 00:13:37.033 Okay, this might not be appropriate 00:13:37.033 --> 00:13:39.644 to say in the morgue, but that's hot. 00:13:42.560 --> 00:13:43.823 Oh, yeah? 00:13:45.389 --> 00:13:46.061 You deserve better. 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:47.371 You're a good person. 00:13:47.571 --> 00:13:50.182 I know. 00:13:51.140 --> 00:13:53.011 To be continued. 00:13:58.730 --> 00:14:00.297 What? 00:14:06.782 --> 00:14:09.176 Ezra Fisher? 00:14:09.176 --> 00:14:11.134 Do you remember me? 00:14:11.134 --> 00:14:13.267 Are you kidding? 00:14:13.267 --> 00:14:16.357 You took down Adam Barnett. You're my hero. 00:14:16.357 --> 00:14:18.185 I'll buy you a drink anytime. 00:14:18.185 --> 00:14:21.753 Maybe a rain check, but I got a couple questions for you. 00:14:21.753 --> 00:14:23.407 About what? 00:14:23.407 --> 00:14:25.148 Do you remember that case I asked you about? 00:14:25.148 --> 00:14:26.845 Gloria Nanmac? 00:14:26.845 --> 00:14:29.239 They found her killer. 00:14:31.894 --> 00:14:33.809 Oh, yeah? 00:14:33.809 --> 00:14:35.158 Yeah, an ex-boyfriend. 00:14:35.158 --> 00:14:38.030 Guy named Toby Crenshaw. 00:14:38.030 --> 00:14:39.815 He confessed. 00:14:39.815 --> 00:14:42.209 I think I read something about that. 00:14:42.209 --> 00:14:44.124 Took 'em long enough. 00:14:44.124 --> 00:14:48.040 We're doing one last story on her just to wrap things up. 00:14:50.565 --> 00:14:52.915 You said you saw Gloria that night at Skeeter's, 00:14:52.915 --> 00:14:55.831 but you left before her to go get your kid, right? 00:14:55.831 --> 00:14:57.615 Yeah, that's right. 00:14:57.615 --> 00:14:59.139 I had to pick him up from the sitter. 00:14:59.139 --> 00:15:01.967 And you never went back? 00:15:01.967 --> 00:15:03.882 You never saw her again after that? 00:15:03.882 --> 00:15:06.929 Yeah. No, never saw her. 00:15:06.929 --> 00:15:09.192 S'too bad. 00:15:09.192 --> 00:15:12.500 Maybe you can clear something up for us. 00:15:12.500 --> 00:15:14.589 Gloria left a voicemail for a friend 00:15:14.589 --> 00:15:16.330 at Skeeter's that night. 00:15:18.375 --> 00:15:20.986 A kid's voice is in the background. 00:15:23.293 --> 00:15:25.426 Daddy, I wanna go. 00:15:26.818 --> 00:15:29.778 That's Jackson, your son. 00:15:29.778 --> 00:15:31.475 Taylor confirmed it. 00:15:34.348 --> 00:15:37.742 Why don't you tell me what you really did that night? 00:15:40.223 --> 00:15:42.704 You're not a cop. 00:15:42.704 --> 00:15:44.793 I don't have to talk to you. 00:16:02.463 --> 00:16:04.334 Hey. 00:16:04.334 --> 00:16:05.553 Yeah, hey. 00:16:06.815 --> 00:16:08.991 I found what you're looking for. 00:16:08.991 --> 00:16:10.732 Over the past 10 years, Denali Broadband 00:16:10.732 --> 00:16:14.170 has installed service in 27 villages across the state. 00:16:14.170 --> 00:16:16.172 Thanks. Uh, so we call the police department 00:16:16.172 --> 00:16:17.869 and see if there were any complaints against Ezra. 00:16:17.869 --> 00:16:20.002 A lot of those villages don't have police departments. 00:16:20.002 --> 00:16:21.786 - What do you mean? - He means exactly that. 00:16:21.786 --> 00:16:23.701 One in three villages don't have cops. 00:16:23.701 --> 00:16:25.964 - That's insane. - We call it Alaska. 00:16:25.964 --> 00:16:27.444 If they're lucky, they'll have a VPO. 00:16:27.444 --> 00:16:29.838 - What's a VPO? - Village Police Officer. 00:16:29.838 --> 00:16:32.014 - Usually an underpaid... - And undertrained. 00:16:32.014 --> 00:16:33.233 ...member of the community. 00:16:33.233 --> 00:16:36.323 So, can we get in touch with these VPOs? 00:16:36.323 --> 00:16:39.108 Yeah, probably. We can call the village stores. 00:16:39.108 --> 00:16:41.153 VPOs generally post their phone number there. 00:16:41.153 --> 00:16:44.200 Going deep. Good luck. 00:16:46.246 --> 00:16:48.987 Doris Peal? Roz Friendly with The Daily Alaskan. 00:16:48.987 --> 00:16:50.989 Wondering if you ever dealt with Ezra Fisher 00:16:50.989 --> 00:16:53.078 between April and July 2016? 00:16:53.078 --> 00:16:55.690 That's right-- Ezra Fisher. 00:16:55.690 --> 00:16:56.908 Are you sure it doesn't ring a bell? 00:16:56.908 --> 00:16:59.433 No, not Evan Kirshel. Ezra Fisher. 00:16:59.433 --> 00:17:01.783 Yeah, he worked for Denali Broadband. 00:17:01.783 --> 00:17:04.133 - Would've been in Nikolai... - You just started as VPO. 00:17:04.133 --> 00:17:06.440 Did the old VPO keep any records? 00:17:08.442 --> 00:17:11.314 - You sure? - Thank you. 00:17:11.314 --> 00:17:13.490 We still got 00:17:13.490 --> 00:17:15.623 12 villages to call. 00:17:15.623 --> 00:17:17.886 It's a long shot, but maybe we'll get a hit. 00:17:22.804 --> 00:17:24.632 Eileen Fitzgerald. 00:17:24.632 --> 00:17:28.200 Eileen, this is Andy Ward from The New York Times. 00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:30.464 - Good time to talk? - Sure. 00:17:30.464 --> 00:17:32.727 Uh, Andy, just give me a second. 00:17:32.727 --> 00:17:35.251 I'm, uh, gonna go grab a coffee. 00:17:35.251 --> 00:17:36.818 Do you want one? 00:17:36.818 --> 00:17:37.949 I'm good. 00:17:37.949 --> 00:17:39.821 What can I do for you, Andy? 00:17:39.821 --> 00:17:41.257 Well, I've been following the work 00:17:41.257 --> 00:17:42.606 you've been doing up there in Alaska. 00:17:42.606 --> 00:17:44.391 - It's damn good. - Thanks. 00:17:44.391 --> 00:17:47.742 We were all horrified by what happened to you, by the way. 00:17:47.742 --> 00:17:49.570 I'm sure you read Bret Stephen's opinion piece 00:17:49.570 --> 00:17:51.833 on violence against journalists. 00:17:51.833 --> 00:17:53.661 I did. I sent him an e-mail. 00:17:53.661 --> 00:17:55.489 Oh. Hopefully The Daily Alaskan 00:17:55.489 --> 00:17:57.360 has beefed up their security system. 00:17:57.360 --> 00:17:59.057 A little, but they don't really have 00:17:59.057 --> 00:18:00.755 the budget for that kind of thing. 00:18:00.755 --> 00:18:02.757 Not surprising, given the economic realities 00:18:02.757 --> 00:18:04.367 of small city papers these days. 00:18:04.367 --> 00:18:06.282 Which brings me to my point. 00:18:06.282 --> 00:18:08.415 We'd like to offer you a job here at The Times. 00:18:10.591 --> 00:18:11.940 Is that right? 00:18:11.940 --> 00:18:14.072 You belong in New York, Eileen. 00:18:14.072 --> 00:18:15.987 Have you checked in with New York about that? 00:18:15.987 --> 00:18:17.946 I have. 00:18:17.946 --> 00:18:20.818 And, uh, to be honest, I feel like Rushmi 00:18:20.818 --> 00:18:23.604 let you down at The Vanguard, not the other way around. 00:18:23.604 --> 00:18:25.388 That never would have happened here at The Times. 00:18:25.388 --> 00:18:26.737 We would've been way ahead of it. 00:18:26.737 --> 00:18:28.609 You belong on this stage. 00:18:28.609 --> 00:18:30.480 I appreciate that, really. 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:34.179 But I'm-- I'm deep in a story I really care about here. 00:18:34.179 --> 00:18:36.530 And the editor, he gave me a shot when no one else would. 00:18:36.530 --> 00:18:38.619 Stanley Cornik, yeah. 00:18:38.619 --> 00:18:40.751 Yeah, he's good. A pro. 00:18:40.751 --> 00:18:42.971 But all due respect, 00:18:42.971 --> 00:18:44.581 how much longer is he gonna be doing it? 00:18:44.581 --> 00:18:47.236 Don't know. Haven't asked. 00:18:47.236 --> 00:18:49.107 Okay, look, 00:18:49.107 --> 00:18:51.980 I'm gonna text you a back-of-napkin offer. 00:18:51.980 --> 00:18:54.243 It's healthy. Think about it. 00:18:54.243 --> 00:18:56.158 It's a chance for you to tell the big stories 00:18:56.158 --> 00:18:57.638 the way you want. 00:19:01.293 --> 00:19:02.512 Who was that? 00:19:02.512 --> 00:19:04.732 Uh, New York friend. 00:19:04.732 --> 00:19:06.429 Did you forget your coffee? 00:19:06.429 --> 00:19:09.214 Yep. Any updates? 00:19:09.214 --> 00:19:10.433 Yeah, I got a hit. 00:19:10.433 --> 00:19:13.218 VPO in Tuxecan remembers Ezra. 00:19:13.218 --> 00:19:15.482 - Where's Tuxecan? - Southeast. 00:19:15.482 --> 00:19:17.005 He was seeing a local girl there. 00:19:17.005 --> 00:19:19.703 Um, Julie. Beat her up. 00:19:19.703 --> 00:19:21.575 The VPO called the Troopers and they charged him. 00:19:21.575 --> 00:19:22.663 Charged him? 00:19:22.663 --> 00:19:24.578 Why don't we see it on his sheet? 00:19:24.578 --> 00:19:26.057 Can we talk to the victim? 00:19:26.057 --> 00:19:28.973 VPO said Julie won't talk to strangers on the phone. 00:19:28.973 --> 00:19:30.671 Well, does this VPO have a name? 00:19:30.671 --> 00:19:32.760 Um, Sadie. 00:19:32.760 --> 00:19:34.326 We going to Tuxecan? 00:19:34.326 --> 00:19:35.850 Feels like it. 00:19:35.850 --> 00:19:37.982 Stanley's gonna push back on the cost. 00:19:37.982 --> 00:19:40.158 Any chance you could ask the poet pilot? 00:19:40.158 --> 00:19:42.726 Yeah. I could. 00:19:42.726 --> 00:19:44.293 Really? 00:19:45.686 --> 00:19:47.557 Yeah. Really. 00:19:49.055 --> 00:19:50.405 What's up? 00:19:50.805 --> 00:19:53.416 I'm wrestling with a dilemma. 00:19:53.416 --> 00:19:56.506 Oh. You know I like me a dilemma. 00:19:59.422 --> 00:20:00.641 Lay it on me. 00:20:01.772 --> 00:20:06.777 I worry sometimes that I, professionally, 00:20:06.777 --> 00:20:10.302 am too observant of common social mores, 00:20:10.302 --> 00:20:14.567 too considerate of other people's feelings. 00:20:14.567 --> 00:20:17.440 To the detriment of your work, you're saying? 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:18.920 Yes. 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:21.618 Would I be a better journalist if I were more... 00:20:21.618 --> 00:20:23.359 morally flexible? 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:25.317 More... 00:20:25.317 --> 00:20:27.755 Like Eileen? 00:20:29.844 --> 00:20:32.150 She and Roz need something for the Gloria Nanmac story, 00:20:32.150 --> 00:20:33.543 something important. 00:20:33.543 --> 00:20:36.894 If I asked Eileen for something, she would get it. 00:20:36.894 --> 00:20:41.246 My friend Gary won't help, and I could press him... 00:20:43.945 --> 00:20:46.382 Do you think this is something Gary could do for you? 00:20:46.382 --> 00:20:47.905 Yes. I do. 00:20:47.905 --> 00:20:51.256 It would be unpleasant for him, but it's doable. 00:20:51.256 --> 00:20:54.042 So maybe dip your toe in the pushy waters, 00:20:54.042 --> 00:20:56.914 see what it feels like. 00:21:06.184 --> 00:21:08.970 Hey, hey, hey! No complaining. 00:21:08.970 --> 00:21:10.667 These-- These are friends of mine. 00:21:10.667 --> 00:21:12.582 We're reporters. We've heard worse. 00:21:12.582 --> 00:21:15.411 Much, but the tail is new. 00:21:16.804 --> 00:21:19.067 It's a nice day, huh? 00:21:19.067 --> 00:21:20.982 Yeah. It is. 00:21:20.982 --> 00:21:26.335 Do you guys ever hang out on terra firma, or just up here? 00:21:26.335 --> 00:21:28.076 What is wrong with up here? 00:21:28.076 --> 00:21:29.642 What are you, an altitudist, Roz? 00:21:29.642 --> 00:21:32.558 Sounds like it. She's a Planet Earther. 00:21:32.558 --> 00:21:35.736 No judgment. 00:21:35.736 --> 00:21:38.129 Just trying to get a vector on things. 00:21:38.129 --> 00:21:40.436 "Vector." Very nice. 00:21:40.436 --> 00:21:41.524 Very nice. 00:21:41.524 --> 00:21:44.048 Felt pretty good about it, myself. 00:21:44.048 --> 00:21:46.485 How hard is it to learn how to fly? 00:21:46.485 --> 00:21:48.400 It's surprisingly not that hard. 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:50.011 I mean, if you have the-- 00:21:50.011 --> 00:21:51.316 you know, you have the right teacher. 00:21:53.057 --> 00:21:56.060 Are you, uh-- Are you a little fly-curious? 00:21:56.060 --> 00:21:58.019 Maybe. 00:21:58.019 --> 00:22:00.325 Do you ever just fly to fly? 00:22:00.325 --> 00:22:01.718 All the time. 00:22:01.718 --> 00:22:07.550 If I'm ever stuck with my writing or my life, 00:22:07.550 --> 00:22:11.336 I come up here, let it all go. 00:22:11.336 --> 00:22:12.685 Kawdigoo. 00:22:12.685 --> 00:22:14.035 What's that mean? 00:22:14.035 --> 00:22:16.124 "The water has settled clear." 00:22:17.560 --> 00:22:19.780 When life gets tangled, you follow the river 00:22:19.780 --> 00:22:22.434 until the chaos falls away. 00:22:23.871 --> 00:22:26.221 Kawdigoo. 00:22:26.221 --> 00:22:28.179 I like that. 00:22:28.179 --> 00:22:30.616 Does the chaos fall away? 00:22:30.616 --> 00:22:32.488 Every single time. 00:22:34.882 --> 00:22:37.406 Just to say it, if you guys ever do take your show 00:22:37.406 --> 00:22:40.844 to Planet Earth, I'll totally support it. 00:22:55.337 --> 00:22:57.818 You must be the reporters from The Daily Alaskan. 00:22:57.818 --> 00:22:59.167 We are. Sadie Quinn? 00:22:59.167 --> 00:23:02.257 Yeah, it's me. Welcome to Tuxecan. 00:23:02.257 --> 00:23:03.345 You must be Roz. 00:23:03.345 --> 00:23:05.347 - Yeah. This is Eileen. - Hi. 00:23:05.347 --> 00:23:07.349 We gotta go, if you don't mind. I just got a call. 00:23:07.349 --> 00:23:08.524 Some guy's shooting up a house. 00:23:08.524 --> 00:23:10.221 Need to make sure he doesn't hurt someone. 00:23:17.315 --> 00:23:20.318 Ah, Jonah. 00:23:20.318 --> 00:23:22.277 What the hell's he doing? 00:23:22.277 --> 00:23:24.627 Morris! 00:23:24.627 --> 00:23:25.889 Oh, Jesus. 00:23:25.889 --> 00:23:27.064 Does someone live here? 00:23:27.064 --> 00:23:28.587 No one. 00:23:28.587 --> 00:23:30.981 The former owner, Morris, he died a year ago. 00:23:30.981 --> 00:23:33.723 It's been empty since. You two mind staying in the truck? 00:23:33.723 --> 00:23:35.551 Not at all. 00:23:35.551 --> 00:23:37.205 Do you have a gun? 00:23:37.205 --> 00:23:39.381 Town can't afford to insure me for one when I'm on the clock. 00:23:39.381 --> 00:23:40.686 Morris! 00:23:40.686 --> 00:23:42.384 Ain't that a twist? 00:23:44.734 --> 00:23:47.215 Morris! 00:23:52.133 --> 00:23:54.787 Morris! 00:23:54.787 --> 00:23:57.399 Come on. Let's go back to town. 00:23:59.053 --> 00:24:00.445 What is she doing? 00:24:00.445 --> 00:24:02.360 Hugging an angry man with a gun. 00:24:04.275 --> 00:24:06.147 As one does. 00:24:16.940 --> 00:24:18.072 All good? 00:24:18.072 --> 00:24:19.421 Mostly. 00:24:19.421 --> 00:24:21.118 Jonah's off his meds. 00:24:21.118 --> 00:24:24.121 He and Morris were friends and he's angry at Morris for dying. 00:24:24.121 --> 00:24:25.557 That's really heartbreaking. 00:24:25.557 --> 00:24:27.951 Sounds like a job for a professional psychologist. 00:24:27.951 --> 00:24:30.301 Well, he had to settle for this amateur one. 00:24:30.301 --> 00:24:31.955 Jack-of-all-trades. 00:24:31.955 --> 00:24:33.609 I do my best. 00:24:35.654 --> 00:24:37.439 What are the cots for? 00:24:37.439 --> 00:24:39.789 Anyone who needs a safe place to sleep. 00:24:39.789 --> 00:24:42.357 Do, uh, people just call you when they need help? 00:24:42.357 --> 00:24:43.924 Who else are they gonna call? 00:24:43.924 --> 00:24:45.316 911? 00:24:46.578 --> 00:24:48.841 If you call 911 out here, 00:24:48.841 --> 00:24:50.887 you get transferred to a 1-800 number 00:24:50.887 --> 00:24:54.021 which then connects you to a call center way up in Wasilla. 00:24:54.021 --> 00:24:56.632 Wasilla? That's, um... 00:24:56.632 --> 00:24:58.764 That's like calling Miami to get the police 00:24:58.764 --> 00:25:00.679 to come out in Chicago. 00:25:00.679 --> 00:25:02.768 That's Alaska. 00:25:02.768 --> 00:25:05.554 Gary? 00:25:05.554 --> 00:25:06.729 Bob? 00:25:06.729 --> 00:25:08.165 What are you doing here? 00:25:08.165 --> 00:25:10.124 I need to talk to you, Gary. 00:25:10.124 --> 00:25:12.735 Is this about the phone records? 00:25:12.735 --> 00:25:15.781 C'mon, Bob. I told you my hands are tied. 00:25:15.781 --> 00:25:17.087 You got time for a beer? 00:25:17.087 --> 00:25:18.697 I have a new malted barley brown roast 00:25:18.697 --> 00:25:20.830 that's very toasty and rich. 00:25:20.830 --> 00:25:24.399 That's kind of you, Gary, but this visit's all business. 00:25:24.399 --> 00:25:26.879 At my home? 00:25:26.879 --> 00:25:28.316 You didn't call me back. 00:25:30.579 --> 00:25:32.537 I can't give you those phone records. 00:25:32.537 --> 00:25:34.496 A leak like that could get me fired. 00:25:34.496 --> 00:25:37.238 I wouldn't be asking if it wasn't important, Gary. 00:25:38.630 --> 00:25:39.980 You wouldn't be breaking anyone's confidence. 00:25:39.980 --> 00:25:41.590 The owner of the phone passed away. 00:25:41.590 --> 00:25:43.722 A murder victim, actually. 00:25:43.722 --> 00:25:46.943 It could help bring her killer to justice. 00:25:46.943 --> 00:25:48.684 You should do this, Gary. 00:25:48.684 --> 00:25:50.207 I'm done with this, Bob. 00:25:50.207 --> 00:25:51.817 Please leave. 00:25:51.817 --> 00:25:53.080 Now. 00:25:56.387 --> 00:25:59.260 You know, we did a reader survey recently 00:25:59.260 --> 00:26:00.826 tracking customer satisfaction 00:26:00.826 --> 00:26:03.394 of Alaskan cellphone providers. 00:26:03.394 --> 00:26:05.483 Guess who came in dead last? 00:26:05.483 --> 00:26:07.181 Teletrove. 00:26:10.010 --> 00:26:11.968 I'm just following the rules. 00:26:11.968 --> 00:26:14.231 I'll pass that along to Gloria Nanmac's mother, 00:26:14.231 --> 00:26:15.885 who's desperately hoping to find out 00:26:15.885 --> 00:26:18.931 who killed her daughter before she succumbs to cancer. 00:26:20.498 --> 00:26:22.761 You can't put that on me. 00:26:22.761 --> 00:26:24.415 We're prepared to publish an article 00:26:24.415 --> 00:26:28.680 detailing Teletrove's failure to respond to consumer complaints. 00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:30.987 But I'd much rather write an article 00:26:30.987 --> 00:26:34.382 about how some unnamed Teletrove Cellular executive 00:26:34.382 --> 00:26:38.255 did the right thing and helped solve a murder. 00:26:39.169 --> 00:26:41.041 You're kinda being a *, Bob. 00:26:41.041 --> 00:26:42.129 I know. 00:26:43.565 --> 00:26:47.743 But if I'm being honest, I don't see any other way. 00:26:47.743 --> 00:26:51.921 I met Ezra at Crystal's, a bar in town. 00:26:51.921 --> 00:26:53.314 The whole village was excited 00:26:53.314 --> 00:26:56.665 about finally getting high-speed Internet. 00:26:56.665 --> 00:27:00.930 People were always buying the Denali guys cocktails. 00:27:00.930 --> 00:27:02.018 He was fun... 00:27:02.018 --> 00:27:04.064 at first. 00:27:04.064 --> 00:27:05.587 What changed? 00:27:05.587 --> 00:27:09.112 Sometimes when he drank, he turned mean. 00:27:09.112 --> 00:27:10.461 Didn't really bother me at first. 00:27:10.461 --> 00:27:14.465 I was kinda wild back then myself. 00:27:14.465 --> 00:27:16.467 When did he hurt you? 00:27:16.467 --> 00:27:20.906 One night, he just... snapped. 00:27:22.604 --> 00:27:24.345 Beat me up pretty bad. 00:27:26.738 --> 00:27:31.047 I played dead to survive, and then when he passed out, 00:27:31.047 --> 00:27:32.962 I crawled over here. 00:27:32.962 --> 00:27:36.052 When I got over there, Mr. Fisher was still passed out, 00:27:36.052 --> 00:27:37.836 so I restrained him. 00:27:44.539 --> 00:27:46.149 Troopers came the next morning. 00:27:46.149 --> 00:27:49.805 They arrested him and took him to the courthouse in Sunrise. 00:27:51.023 --> 00:27:53.025 Did the DA ever call you? 00:27:54.418 --> 00:27:55.724 Never heard from them. 00:27:57.900 --> 00:28:01.599 Next thing I knew, the charges were dropped and he was gone. 00:28:02.774 --> 00:28:04.863 Do you have any other pictures or notes 00:28:04.863 --> 00:28:07.388 or evidence in that drawer? 00:28:07.388 --> 00:28:09.955 I keep notes on everything that happens. 00:28:14.264 --> 00:28:15.657 We need to figure out what happened 00:28:15.657 --> 00:28:18.225 at the courthouse in Sunrise. 00:28:18.225 --> 00:28:19.400 How far away is it? 00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:21.402 60 miles or so. 00:28:21.402 --> 00:28:23.012 I'm happy to drive you. 00:28:28.626 --> 00:28:34.110 We keep all our local records on... there. 00:28:35.372 --> 00:28:37.766 Go ahead. Just type in a name. 00:28:46.383 --> 00:28:49.125 That was quick. There it is. 00:28:49.125 --> 00:28:51.997 Felony assault and domestic violence. 00:28:51.997 --> 00:28:54.217 April 2018. Ezra Fisher. 00:28:54.217 --> 00:28:56.001 It's just like Sadie and Julie described it, 00:28:56.001 --> 00:28:57.742 so why haven't we seen this before? 00:28:57.742 --> 00:28:59.048 Excuse me? 00:28:59.048 --> 00:29:00.919 Why isn't this charge on CourtView? 00:29:00.919 --> 00:29:03.052 Let me see. 00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:07.099 Oh, that's because the DA dropped the charge 00:29:07.099 --> 00:29:08.753 a month and a half later. 00:29:08.753 --> 00:29:11.191 So? It should still be available on CourtView. 00:29:11.191 --> 00:29:13.541 Not true. A few years back, the-- 00:29:13.541 --> 00:29:15.195 they passed a law that prohibits us 00:29:15.195 --> 00:29:18.241 from publishing domestic violence or other charges 00:29:18.241 --> 00:29:19.851 that were dropped or dismissed. 00:29:19.851 --> 00:29:22.245 Including * assault? 00:29:22.245 --> 00:29:24.552 Yeah. 00:29:24.552 --> 00:29:27.903 I guess the thinking behind it is, one false accusation 00:29:27.903 --> 00:29:29.861 can ruin a guy's life, you know? 00:29:29.861 --> 00:29:32.995 Ezra could've been stopped if this information was available. 00:29:32.995 --> 00:29:34.779 So the only clue that Ezra has a history 00:29:34.779 --> 00:29:38.609 of violently attacking women is hidden on this one computer. 00:29:38.609 --> 00:29:40.307 The question is how many other charges 00:29:40.307 --> 00:29:43.745 against violent abusers are hidden in dusty courthouses? 00:29:47.749 --> 00:29:50.882 Why does it smell vaguely exotic in here? 00:29:50.882 --> 00:29:52.232 Did you bring that ferret back? 00:29:52.232 --> 00:29:54.756 No. They've been here since yesterday. 00:29:54.756 --> 00:29:56.410 Well, I admire the dedication. 00:29:56.410 --> 00:29:59.021 Yeah, very curious to see what it's gonna yield. 00:29:59.021 --> 00:30:01.763 - How'd it go in Tuxecan? - Good. 00:30:01.763 --> 00:30:04.287 And bad, depending on your point of view. 00:30:04.287 --> 00:30:05.593 Listen to this. 00:30:05.593 --> 00:30:07.943 So, I made some calls to some of the other courts 00:30:07.943 --> 00:30:09.814 after Roz told me what happened in Sunrise, 00:30:09.814 --> 00:30:11.120 and they all said they couldn't give me 00:30:11.120 --> 00:30:12.469 the information over the phone. 00:30:12.469 --> 00:30:13.905 - Why not? - It's policy. 00:30:13.905 --> 00:30:15.864 You have to ask for the records in person. 00:30:15.864 --> 00:30:17.822 Obviously, we can't fly to every village and do that. 00:30:17.822 --> 00:30:19.346 So what's the workaround? 00:30:19.346 --> 00:30:21.348 Well, I called the people from each of the villages 00:30:21.348 --> 00:30:24.089 who sent in tips about missing relatives. 00:30:24.089 --> 00:30:26.788 They were more than happy to make the requests for me. 00:30:26.788 --> 00:30:28.311 And? 00:30:28.311 --> 00:30:32.097 And I got two more DV charges against your boy, Ezra. 00:30:32.097 --> 00:30:34.404 One dropped, one dismissed. 00:30:34.404 --> 00:30:36.319 So neither charges were ever made public. 00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:38.756 So it's a pattern of violent behavior 00:30:38.756 --> 00:30:41.237 that's been virtually erased from the system. 00:30:41.237 --> 00:30:43.283 Listen, I gotta deal with this. 00:30:43.283 --> 00:30:44.501 - Thanks, Austin. - Yeah! 00:30:46.155 --> 00:30:47.939 Maybe I should take another shot at Taylor before we go to print. 00:30:47.939 --> 00:30:50.507 Yeah. Good. The new information on Ezra might be enough 00:30:50.507 --> 00:30:53.902 to make her reconsider and let us talk to her kid. 00:30:56.426 --> 00:30:59.734 Hey. Um... 00:30:59.734 --> 00:31:02.258 Look, I'm-- 00:31:02.258 --> 00:31:05.566 I'm so sorry about how contentious 00:31:05.566 --> 00:31:07.742 our last mediation session was. 00:31:07.742 --> 00:31:11.136 I know you care about Zach's safety as much as I do. 00:31:11.136 --> 00:31:12.660 Yeah. 00:31:12.660 --> 00:31:15.445 You know, there are crazy people with guns in Chicago, too. 00:31:15.445 --> 00:31:16.794 Yeah. I know. You're right. 00:31:16.794 --> 00:31:19.884 But there's also newspapers there as well. 00:31:19.884 --> 00:31:24.802 And magazines and even TV stations. 00:31:24.802 --> 00:31:28.850 - Anna... - Zach needs his father, 00:31:28.850 --> 00:31:31.461 but his father doesn't need to be in Alaska. 00:31:31.461 --> 00:31:33.289 Not forever. 00:31:33.289 --> 00:31:35.552 Right? 00:31:35.552 --> 00:31:39.904 Just come, okay? 00:31:39.904 --> 00:31:42.429 Get your own place. 00:31:42.429 --> 00:31:46.824 Be a journalist, be a father. 00:31:46.824 --> 00:31:50.045 You can do those things in Chicago, 00:31:50.045 --> 00:31:52.700 and we can give Zach the life he deserves. 00:31:55.006 --> 00:31:56.617 Think about it? 00:31:58.793 --> 00:32:01.578 I don't have to. 00:32:01.578 --> 00:32:04.407 Zach has a good life here, a unique life, 00:32:04.407 --> 00:32:05.974 and he loves it. 00:32:05.974 --> 00:32:09.238 And I have a life here that I love. 00:32:09.238 --> 00:32:12.372 You're the only one who's dissatisfied with Alaska, 00:32:12.372 --> 00:32:18.900 but I am not going to willingly uproot myself or Zach. 00:32:22.251 --> 00:32:27.038 Okay. Well, then, I guess I will see you in court. 00:32:32.653 --> 00:32:34.437 Taylor, please, just hear me out. 00:32:34.437 --> 00:32:36.613 I'm sick of you. Just leave me alone. 00:32:36.613 --> 00:32:38.398 He's hurt other women! 00:32:38.398 --> 00:32:40.095 Three that I know of so far. 00:32:40.095 --> 00:32:42.924 Four if you include Gloria. 00:32:42.924 --> 00:32:44.447 How come I don't know about this? 00:32:44.447 --> 00:32:46.449 Because Alaska's more worried about protecting 00:32:46.449 --> 00:32:50.497 the reputation of abusers than the safety of their victims. 00:32:58.374 --> 00:33:03.335 This is Julie from Tuxecan after Ezra was through with her. 00:33:05.425 --> 00:33:06.687 Tuxecan? 00:33:06.687 --> 00:33:09.603 He worked there for a few months. 00:33:09.603 --> 00:33:11.518 Yeah, I remember. 00:33:11.518 --> 00:33:14.825 This is hard. I get it. 00:33:14.825 --> 00:33:17.045 But it's real, 00:33:17.045 --> 00:33:20.135 and we need to figure this out together. 00:33:20.135 --> 00:33:22.790 I need to talk to Jackson. 00:33:22.790 --> 00:33:24.008 Please. 00:33:25.836 --> 00:33:28.056 Hi, Jackson. I'm Roz. 00:33:28.056 --> 00:33:30.188 Hi. 00:33:30.188 --> 00:33:33.061 I want to talk to you about something very important. 00:33:33.061 --> 00:33:36.543 But first, I want you to know you're not in any trouble, okay? 00:33:36.543 --> 00:33:39.110 - Are you the police? - No. 00:33:39.110 --> 00:33:43.463 I'm a reporter for The Daily Alaskan. 00:33:43.463 --> 00:33:45.073 Kinda like the guy on your shirt. 00:33:45.073 --> 00:33:48.642 He works for the Daily Bugle, right? 00:33:48.642 --> 00:33:51.775 Yeah, but he's a photographer, not a reporter. 00:33:53.211 --> 00:33:54.865 Good point. 00:33:54.865 --> 00:33:57.825 Do you remember visiting your dad up in Meade two years ago? 00:34:00.044 --> 00:34:02.656 Did he take you to a grown-up party? 00:34:04.788 --> 00:34:08.009 You can tell us the truth. I won't be mad. 00:34:11.099 --> 00:34:13.971 Did he ask you to not tell anyone? 00:34:13.971 --> 00:34:15.538 Yeah. 00:34:18.541 --> 00:34:22.458 Jackson, do you remember this woman? 00:34:22.458 --> 00:34:24.547 She used crutches. 00:34:26.027 --> 00:34:27.855 Do you remember her, honey? 00:34:33.730 --> 00:34:35.471 Do you know what happened to her that night? 00:34:35.471 --> 00:34:38.387 I think she got hurt. 00:34:38.387 --> 00:34:40.781 Daddy had to drive her home. 00:34:40.781 --> 00:34:43.131 She was sleeping. 00:34:43.131 --> 00:34:45.612 Were you with them when he drove her home? 00:34:47.309 --> 00:34:48.310 No. 00:34:48.310 --> 00:34:52.357 He-- He left me at the party. 00:34:52.357 --> 00:34:54.577 Are you sure? 00:34:54.577 --> 00:34:56.536 Is that true? 00:34:56.536 --> 00:34:59.495 He told me not to tell anyone. 00:34:59.495 --> 00:35:01.584 He said I'd get in trouble. 00:35:03.978 --> 00:35:07.459 You're not in trouble, Jacks. 00:35:07.459 --> 00:35:08.939 You're not. 00:35:17.905 --> 00:35:20.124 DA David. Got a minute? 00:35:20.124 --> 00:35:21.735 Ms. Friendly. 00:35:21.735 --> 00:35:24.302 If this is about Toby Crenshaw, I have no comment. 00:35:24.302 --> 00:35:26.304 It's not about Toby. It's about Ezra Fisher. 00:35:26.304 --> 00:35:28.524 He was a person of interest in the Gloria Nanmac case. 00:35:28.524 --> 00:35:30.395 Yeah, I know. He had a solid alibi. 00:35:30.395 --> 00:35:31.962 Ezra was arrested three times 00:35:31.962 --> 00:35:34.486 for felony domestic assault around the state. 00:35:34.486 --> 00:35:37.141 Because of Rule 40, those arrests were never made public. 00:35:37.141 --> 00:35:39.361 We pulled the records from the villages. 00:35:39.361 --> 00:35:41.493 Like I said, Mr. Fisher had an alibi 00:35:41.493 --> 00:35:43.321 for the night Gloria Nanmac went missing. 00:35:43.321 --> 00:35:45.367 That alibi fell apart. 00:35:45.367 --> 00:35:46.847 We just talked to his 10-year-old son, 00:35:46.847 --> 00:35:49.719 and he told us that Ezra left Clarence Redding's 00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:51.112 the night Gloria went missing. 00:35:51.112 --> 00:35:53.244 He said she was sleeping. 00:35:55.072 --> 00:35:57.597 Even if it's true-- and testimony from children 00:35:57.597 --> 00:36:00.208 is historically unreliable-- 00:36:00.208 --> 00:36:03.298 all it proves is that Ezra left a location with Gloria. 00:36:03.298 --> 00:36:04.647 You're not gonna do anything about it? 00:36:04.647 --> 00:36:06.997 I have a signed confession from Toby Crenshaw. 00:36:06.997 --> 00:36:09.173 That's a hell of a lot more convincing than three arrests 00:36:09.173 --> 00:36:12.263 that resulted in not one prosecution of Ezra Fisher. 00:36:12.263 --> 00:36:13.569 What if we write an article 00:36:13.569 --> 00:36:16.050 about how Rule 40 protects domestic abusers? 00:36:16.050 --> 00:36:17.660 That's wildly inaccurate. 00:36:17.660 --> 00:36:21.272 Is it? Under Rule 40, if charges against an alleged abuser 00:36:21.272 --> 00:36:22.534 get dropped or dismissed, 00:36:22.534 --> 00:36:24.798 the courts don't have to log those arrests 00:36:24.798 --> 00:36:26.364 into the statewide database. 00:36:26.364 --> 00:36:29.063 Men accused of violent crimes are hiding in plain sight. 00:36:29.063 --> 00:36:30.412 Like Ezra. 00:36:30.412 --> 00:36:31.848 So a prosecutor in Anchorage would have no idea 00:36:31.848 --> 00:36:35.243 if a suspect in Scammon Bay or Russian Mission 00:36:35.243 --> 00:36:36.940 had been charged with assault. 00:36:38.072 --> 00:36:41.162 Innocent until proven guilty. 00:36:41.162 --> 00:36:43.904 It would be highly prejudicial to leave an arrest 00:36:43.904 --> 00:36:46.297 on someone's record if charges are dropped. 00:36:46.297 --> 00:36:49.083 It's also highly prejudicial to charge the wrong man 00:36:49.083 --> 00:36:50.693 with Gloria Nanmac's murder. 00:36:50.693 --> 00:36:53.217 Toby's taking a plea in less than a week. 00:36:53.217 --> 00:36:55.872 Off the record, the Governor is satisfied 00:36:55.872 --> 00:36:58.962 that justice is being served, and so am I. 00:37:00.442 --> 00:37:02.183 This train has left the station. 00:37:02.183 --> 00:37:03.706 Goodbye. 00:37:05.665 --> 00:37:07.710 - Fill me in. - The good news is, 00:37:07.710 --> 00:37:09.190 we're pretty sure we know who killed Gloria. 00:37:09.190 --> 00:37:11.366 The bad news is, it's not the guy going to prison. 00:37:11.366 --> 00:37:13.281 And we can't do a damn thing about it. 00:37:13.281 --> 00:37:15.326 Ezra was right. We're not the cops. 00:37:15.326 --> 00:37:16.501 We can't touch him. 00:37:16.501 --> 00:37:18.199 Our stories aren't moving the needle. 00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:21.637 Toby's rotting in jail, and the DA won't listen to us. 00:37:21.637 --> 00:37:23.030 He may not be listening, 00:37:23.030 --> 00:37:24.596 but the rest of the state is. 00:37:24.596 --> 00:37:26.424 Whether you realize it or not, 00:37:26.424 --> 00:37:28.470 you're having a dialogue with Alaskans. 00:37:28.470 --> 00:37:30.733 The truth is a slow bullet. 00:37:30.733 --> 00:37:32.474 Don't stop. 00:37:32.474 --> 00:37:34.694 Go. Write your story. 00:37:34.694 --> 00:37:36.608 This reads well. 00:37:36.608 --> 00:37:38.262 Yeah, it's good. 00:37:38.262 --> 00:37:42.049 Uh, few small things. 00:37:42.049 --> 00:37:43.354 Check it. 00:37:45.052 --> 00:37:46.401 You okay? 00:37:46.401 --> 00:37:49.360 I hate it when I lose faith in what we're doing. 00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:53.147 Well, Alaska's a good place to lose it, for what it's worth. 00:37:53.147 --> 00:37:54.931 Does that mean you're gonna take the job 00:37:54.931 --> 00:37:56.280 at The New York Times? 00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.762 If I'm being honest, I haven't decided. 00:37:59.762 --> 00:38:02.156 Well, if I'm being honest, I'd want redemption, too. 00:38:02.156 --> 00:38:04.201 After what you went through, 00:38:04.201 --> 00:38:07.117 walking into The New York Times, everyone watching... 00:38:07.117 --> 00:38:10.468 I do like the idea of punching cancel culture in the face. 00:38:10.468 --> 00:38:11.905 So I came clean. 00:38:11.905 --> 00:38:13.341 Your turn. 00:38:13.341 --> 00:38:15.125 You taking the WaPo offer? 00:38:16.300 --> 00:38:17.693 How'd you know? 00:38:17.693 --> 00:38:19.434 They called me as a reference. 00:38:19.434 --> 00:38:24.134 Well, at least someone's paying attention to our stories. 00:38:24.134 --> 00:38:27.485 So? You going? 00:38:27.485 --> 00:38:29.574 I haven't decided either. 00:38:29.574 --> 00:38:31.402 Getting an offer from The Washington Post 00:38:31.402 --> 00:38:32.969 ain't no small feat. 00:38:32.969 --> 00:38:35.537 It's impressive. 00:38:35.537 --> 00:38:37.626 And deserved. 00:38:37.626 --> 00:38:39.802 I suppose so. 00:38:39.802 --> 00:38:44.851 I always thought I'd jump at it, but now... I don't know. 00:38:44.851 --> 00:38:46.809 How you gonna decide? 00:38:46.809 --> 00:38:49.333 Guess I'm waiting for a sign? 00:38:49.333 --> 00:38:50.595 Let me know when you see it. 00:38:50.595 --> 00:38:52.032 Sorry to barge in, 00:38:52.032 --> 00:38:54.425 but we have something we want to show you. 00:38:56.819 --> 00:38:58.560 Hi, everyone. 00:38:58.560 --> 00:39:01.519 Well, first, I want to thank Jindaháa 00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:04.044 and his talented and generous friends 00:39:04.044 --> 00:39:05.741 for putting in the time to help with this project. 00:39:05.741 --> 00:39:08.831 And of course, we wouldn't be standing here 00:39:08.831 --> 00:39:12.835 if it weren't for Eileen and Roz's MMIW series. 00:39:12.835 --> 00:39:16.056 So, here goes. 00:39:17.709 --> 00:39:21.844 For context, I have to point out that Alaska Native women 00:39:21.844 --> 00:39:24.499 experience the highest rate of * assault 00:39:24.499 --> 00:39:27.937 of any demographic in the United States. 00:39:29.243 --> 00:39:32.159 This is the first case we entered. 00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:33.769 We all know her by now. 00:39:33.769 --> 00:39:34.901 Gloria. 00:39:36.511 --> 00:39:39.514 These women went missing in the last year. 00:39:41.995 --> 00:39:43.866 This is the past five years. 00:39:48.566 --> 00:39:50.264 10 years. 00:39:54.572 --> 00:39:56.444 15 years. 00:39:58.968 --> 00:40:02.276 In the past 100 years, 00:40:02.276 --> 00:40:07.629 literally thousands of Native women have disappeared. 00:40:07.629 --> 00:40:11.633 Still today, in 2023, 00:40:11.633 --> 00:40:16.377 at least one woman goes missing weekly from Anchorage alone. 00:40:20.337 --> 00:40:22.862 Extraordinary work. 00:40:33.133 --> 00:40:34.656 Special delivery. 00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:38.181 Is this what I think it is? 00:40:38.181 --> 00:40:40.880 The records for Gloria's burner phone. 00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:42.142 Thanks, Bob. 00:40:42.142 --> 00:40:44.448 How'd you get your pal to change his mind? 00:40:44.448 --> 00:40:47.321 I channeled my inner Fitzgerald. 00:40:47.321 --> 00:40:49.714 That sounds painful. 00:40:49.714 --> 00:40:51.891 It was, a little. 00:40:51.891 --> 00:40:53.022 But it worked. 00:40:53.022 --> 00:40:54.110 Thank you. 00:41:00.160 --> 00:41:03.119 Look at the date of the last call she made. 00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:07.341 November 30th, to 911. 00:41:07.341 --> 00:41:09.038 She disappeared the 28th. 00:41:09.038 --> 00:41:11.475 Sylvie reported her missing the next morning. 00:41:11.475 --> 00:41:13.216 If Ezra left Gloria on the tundra 00:41:13.216 --> 00:41:14.522 on the night of the 28th, 00:41:14.522 --> 00:41:16.437 she was alive for at least two more days. 00:41:16.437 --> 00:41:18.047 So while the police refused to search for her, 00:41:18.047 --> 00:41:19.701 while they did absolutely nothing-- 00:41:19.701 --> 00:41:23.183 Gloria was making desperate calls, including one to 911. 00:41:23.183 --> 00:41:24.880 There has to be a recording. 00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:26.795 And we gotta hear it.