WEBVTT 00:00:13.323 --> 00:00:15.419 Helen, morning. Good morning. 00:00:15.443 --> 00:00:17.979 Five hours for one photo shoot. Yes. 00:00:18.003 --> 00:00:20.579 What, is it really going to take half a day? 00:00:20.603 --> 00:00:21.580 Yes. 00:00:21.604 --> 00:00:24.579 It says... it says "candid shots of couple at home". 00:00:24.603 --> 00:00:25.619 Yes. 00:00:25.643 --> 00:00:27.059 So why do we need a stylist? 00:00:27.083 --> 00:00:29.339 It's a photo shoot. This is nothing. 00:00:29.363 --> 00:00:30.819 I dress up as a bon-bon 00:00:30.843 --> 00:00:32.799 on the News At Six Christmas card the other year. 00:00:32.823 --> 00:00:34.299 Where can I see those photos? 00:00:34.323 --> 00:00:36.219 I've got really good news. 00:00:36.243 --> 00:00:40.859 I have got the Caroline Gibson story across the line. 00:00:40.883 --> 00:00:41.979 Caroline Gibson? 00:00:42.003 --> 00:00:44.679 The mother who contracted HIV through a blood transfusion 00:00:44.703 --> 00:00:46.559 and unknowingly gave it to her children. 00:00:46.583 --> 00:00:47.959 Lindsay signed off on it? Yes. 00:00:47.983 --> 00:00:49.883 And I think you should do it. 00:00:51.523 --> 00:00:52.939 It's your story. 00:00:52.963 --> 00:00:55.163 It's going to do more for you than it is for me. 00:00:55.963 --> 00:01:00.339 You imagine? You on camera, empathizing with a mother. 00:01:00.363 --> 00:01:02.459 Every woman watching is going to fall in love with you, 00:01:02.483 --> 00:01:04.139 and they're going to call the switchboard 00:01:04.163 --> 00:01:06.282 and ask for more Dale Jennings. 00:01:08.323 --> 00:01:09.363 OK. 00:01:20.563 --> 00:01:22.899 Noelene, could you check some dates for me? 00:01:22.923 --> 00:01:23.800 Sure. 00:01:23.824 --> 00:01:26.699 I need to know when AIDS first arrived in Australia 00:01:26.723 --> 00:01:29.219 and when the blood bank started screening donors for HIV. 00:01:29.243 --> 00:01:30.483 On it. 00:01:34.683 --> 00:01:36.939 Jam donuts. Aw, thanks, Noels. 00:01:36.963 --> 00:01:39.019 You're a champion. Oi, um... 00:01:39.043 --> 00:01:40.819 ...who's your pick for this Saturday? 00:01:40.843 --> 00:01:42.323 Demons or Swans? 00:01:43.883 --> 00:01:47.739 What? I thought you wanted a bit of office footy chat? 00:01:47.763 --> 00:01:51.299 I do, but I don't want anyone to know you're teaching me. 00:01:51.323 --> 00:01:52.323 Why? 00:01:53.283 --> 00:01:56.499 What? So I'm banned from talking about the footy with you? 00:01:56.523 --> 00:01:58.259 In here, yes. 00:01:58.283 --> 00:02:00.939 Everyone else can, but... not me? 00:02:00.963 --> 00:02:02.443 Until further notice. 00:02:03.603 --> 00:02:06.139 We allowed to chat about other topics? 00:02:06.163 --> 00:02:07.803 Do you have other topics? 00:02:08.883 --> 00:02:10.643 Cricket. 00:02:14.603 --> 00:02:16.699 It's going to be the Swans. 00:02:16.723 --> 00:02:18.323 I'm tipping three goals. 00:02:20.523 --> 00:02:23.139 Hey, Dennis, is there a crew available? 00:02:23.163 --> 00:02:25.139 I'm doing the Caroline Gibson story. 00:02:25.163 --> 00:02:28.379 She's in Beaumaris. Mate. 00:02:28.403 --> 00:02:29.899 What? Poisoned chalice. 00:02:29.923 --> 00:02:32.259 Lindsay signed off on it. That's 'cause Helen wore him down. 00:02:32.283 --> 00:02:33.979 Lindsay hates AIDS stories. 00:02:34.003 --> 00:02:36.479 He's gonna want to see a cut and he's not gonna be kind. 00:02:36.503 --> 00:02:37.439 I'll be right. 00:02:37.463 --> 00:02:39.059 Your funeral. Take Tim's crew. 00:02:39.083 --> 00:02:40.379 Anyone else available? 00:02:40.403 --> 00:02:43.403 You always go out with Tim's crew. What, has he got BO or something? 00:02:45.483 --> 00:02:47.123 Whatever. Give me a second. 00:02:50.523 --> 00:02:51.763 I need a crew. 00:02:53.283 --> 00:02:55.443 What, no, not Tim's crew. Give me another crew. 00:02:56.363 --> 00:02:58.363 No. Thanks. 00:03:02.363 --> 00:03:05.139 Well, it's higher than I would have liked. 00:03:05.163 --> 00:03:07.043 You haven't been exerting yourself, have you? 00:03:08.163 --> 00:03:11.419 Just a gentle walk most evenings. 00:03:11.443 --> 00:03:12.459 How far? 00:03:12.483 --> 00:03:14.219 End of the road and back. 00:03:14.243 --> 00:03:17.019 Attempted the full block yesterday and... 00:03:17.043 --> 00:03:18.859 ...never heard the end of it. 00:03:18.883 --> 00:03:20.019 Good. 00:03:20.043 --> 00:03:23.203 It's paramount to give your body the time it needs, Geoff. 00:03:26.363 --> 00:03:30.259 Remember when they sent me to cover Vietnam? 00:03:30.283 --> 00:03:32.579 Of course. I came to you to get my jabs. 00:03:32.603 --> 00:03:35.139 Yes. I could only get three at a time. 00:03:35.163 --> 00:03:36.439 You made me pick. 00:03:36.463 --> 00:03:37.939 Disease roulette. 00:03:37.963 --> 00:03:42.219 I gave you tetanus, cholera and diphtheria, 00:03:42.243 --> 00:03:44.459 and you got typhoid. 00:03:44.483 --> 00:03:46.899 Yes. Yep. 00:03:46.923 --> 00:03:50.259 Chucking my guts up on a dirt road somewhere. 00:03:50.283 --> 00:03:52.203 Seconds later, shooting a story. 00:03:53.163 --> 00:03:54.479 But I soldiered on. 00:03:54.503 --> 00:03:55.719 We all did. 00:03:55.743 --> 00:03:59.019 Your second Walkley. 00:03:59.043 --> 00:04:02.059 Yes, well, you know, soldiering on with typhoid at 43 00:04:02.083 --> 00:04:03.659 is very impressive, 00:04:03.683 --> 00:04:07.803 but soldiering on after a heart bypass at 60 is... 00:04:09.163 --> 00:04:11.243 ...something else entirely, Geoff. 00:04:15.043 --> 00:04:16.379 I'll see you out. No. 00:04:16.403 --> 00:04:19.059 You stay right there. Rest. 00:04:19.083 --> 00:04:21.603 I'll check in on you in a fortnight, alright? 00:04:28.843 --> 00:04:32.419 Realistically, when do you think he'll be ready for work? 00:04:32.443 --> 00:04:33.763 Months yet. 00:04:34.763 --> 00:04:35.819 Months? 00:04:35.843 --> 00:04:39.319 Two at least, preferably three, and even then I'd suggest part time. 00:04:39.343 --> 00:04:42.579 I know my husband. He is not built to be at home. 00:04:42.603 --> 00:04:44.139 He gets agitated. 00:04:44.163 --> 00:04:46.803 Evelyn, he could die. 00:04:47.603 --> 00:04:49.739 The warning signs have been there for years. 00:04:49.763 --> 00:04:51.059 He's ignored them. 00:04:51.083 --> 00:04:52.499 And if he keeps ignoring them... 00:04:52.523 --> 00:04:54.803 What? I'm sorry, what? 00:04:57.843 --> 00:05:01.602 Maybe you don't know everything about your husband. 00:05:09.083 --> 00:05:10.739 OK. 00:05:10.763 --> 00:05:14.899 She specifically said not to get her kids' faces on camera, 00:05:14.923 --> 00:05:16.219 so if they are in frame, 00:05:16.243 --> 00:05:18.219 make sure you explain to her what you're filming, 00:05:18.243 --> 00:05:20.579 'cause she might be OK with background shots with them. 00:05:20.603 --> 00:05:21.559 Got it. 00:05:21.583 --> 00:05:23.143 We don't touch her, right? 00:05:24.003 --> 00:05:25.579 No, you're not going to be touching her. 00:05:25.603 --> 00:05:28.939 What about door handles and stuff? I read you can get it from that. 00:05:28.963 --> 00:05:30.040 Well, that's a myth. 00:05:30.064 --> 00:05:32.599 You can only get it if some of her blood gets physically inside you. 00:05:32.623 --> 00:05:34.579 Sorry. I'm not good with sickness. 00:05:34.603 --> 00:05:36.019 She's not sick. 00:05:36.043 --> 00:05:39.563 She's HIV positive, and right now she doesn't have any symptoms. 00:05:41.083 --> 00:05:42.563 Are we good here? 00:05:43.203 --> 00:05:44.363 Yeah. 00:05:46.163 --> 00:05:47.163 OK? 00:05:48.123 --> 00:05:51.083 I was six months pregnant with my second child. 00:05:52.083 --> 00:05:54.843 The hospital suggested that I have the AIDS test. 00:05:55.963 --> 00:05:58.203 And when it came back positive, I thought... 00:05:59.603 --> 00:06:01.523 ...it had to be a mistake. 00:06:02.563 --> 00:06:04.563 I couldn't even think how it was possible. 00:06:05.923 --> 00:06:08.479 Till they asked me if I'd had a blood transfusion. 00:06:08.503 --> 00:06:11.779 And you did have one, after the birth of your son. 00:06:11.803 --> 00:06:12.863 That's right. 00:06:13.683 --> 00:06:17.803 So you went undiagnosed for... Four years. 00:06:19.283 --> 00:06:21.363 And I passed it on to my children. 00:06:22.243 --> 00:06:25.523 If I'd known, I never would have breastfed and, um... 00:06:27.203 --> 00:06:29.882 ...I certainly wouldn't have gotten pregnant for the second time. 00:06:32.443 --> 00:06:35.499 Sorry, are you sick? 00:06:35.523 --> 00:06:37.603 What? Do you have a cold? 00:06:39.083 --> 00:06:40.619 Just allergies. 00:06:40.643 --> 00:06:43.339 I'm so sorry, I just really can't afford to get sick. 00:06:43.363 --> 00:06:45.059 Of course. So sorry. 00:06:45.083 --> 00:06:48.803 Brian, can you lock the camera off and go and wait in the car? 00:06:49.723 --> 00:06:51.683 Are you serious? Yes. 00:07:00.123 --> 00:07:01.619 Sorry. Of course. 00:07:01.643 --> 00:07:03.019 Thank you. 00:07:03.043 --> 00:07:04.843 Caroline, could you... 00:07:06.243 --> 00:07:08.379 Could you explain to me a bit more 00:07:08.403 --> 00:07:11.363 about what it's like living with the virus day to day? 00:07:12.443 --> 00:07:13.643 Well... 00:07:14.963 --> 00:07:17.179 ...people treat us like lepers. 00:07:17.203 --> 00:07:19.899 Our dentist has stop seeing us. 00:07:19.923 --> 00:07:21.883 My son's been ostracised from school. 00:07:23.163 --> 00:07:25.859 And the clinics we have to go to for treatment 00:07:25.883 --> 00:07:28.043 are just full of * men. 00:07:32.163 --> 00:07:33.979 Are you angry that this happened? 00:07:34.003 --> 00:07:35.219 Of course. 00:07:35.243 --> 00:07:37.899 I was told that this blood transfusion had saved my life, 00:07:37.923 --> 00:07:39.779 but really, it was... 00:07:39.803 --> 00:07:43.123 ...it was a death sentence for me and my children. 00:07:46.443 --> 00:07:49.379 You're gonna have to lose 30 seconds out of that. 00:07:49.403 --> 00:07:50.579 30 seconds. 00:07:50.603 --> 00:07:52.119 It is dire. It's wrist-slashing stuff. 00:07:52.143 --> 00:07:54.419 It's moving, sure, but isn't that the point? 00:07:54.443 --> 00:07:56.259 The point, Dale, is not to drop viewers. 00:07:56.283 --> 00:07:59.259 Every time we put one of these bloody AIDS stories on, 00:07:59.283 --> 00:08:00.939 we drop 100k - every time. 00:08:00.963 --> 00:08:03.419 I'm worried if we cut that much, we'll lose the impact. 00:08:03.443 --> 00:08:05.459 We left out the best bit. No, we didn't. 00:08:05.483 --> 00:08:06.499 What's that? 00:08:06.523 --> 00:08:08.599 When she says they poisoned the blood bank. The *. 00:08:08.623 --> 00:08:10.639 It's unsubstantiated. She was upset... 00:08:10.663 --> 00:08:11.540 Let's see it. 00:08:11.564 --> 00:08:12.779 Mate, you've just woken me up. 00:08:12.803 --> 00:08:14.699 Poofter poisoning the blood bank. That is gold. 00:08:14.723 --> 00:08:16.779 The whole focus is the family impact. Here. 00:08:16.803 --> 00:08:19.019 "If it takes threatening and perhaps donating blood 00:08:19.043 --> 00:08:22.459 "to get us the attention we need, that may be what we have to do." 00:08:22.483 --> 00:08:24.619 That's a quote from a US * activist. 00:08:24.643 --> 00:08:27.543 I'll see if I can get another source, but it looks good. 00:08:28.363 --> 00:08:29.683 That's your story. 00:08:31.923 --> 00:08:34.999 OK, if we put the quote in, can we keep the 30 seconds? 00:08:35.023 --> 00:08:36.339 You're learning. 00:08:36.363 --> 00:08:37.603 Yes, we can. 00:08:42.203 --> 00:08:43.619 Great. 00:08:43.643 --> 00:08:47.219 In 1983, Robert Schwab, a US * activist 00:08:47.243 --> 00:08:50.659 frustrated by the lack of funding for AIDS, told his followers, 00:08:50.683 --> 00:08:53.299 "If it takes threatening and perhaps donating blood 00:08:53.323 --> 00:08:57.499 "to get us the attention we need, that may be what we have to do." 00:08:57.523 --> 00:08:59.859 Some * thought that AIDS would only get attention 00:08:59.883 --> 00:09:01.979 if straight people had it too. 00:09:02.003 --> 00:09:03.243 That's what I've heard. 00:09:04.243 --> 00:09:05.819 And now they do. 00:09:05.843 --> 00:09:07.699 Are you angry that this happened? 00:09:07.723 --> 00:09:09.259 Of course. 00:09:09.283 --> 00:09:12.139 I was told that this blood transfusion had saved my life, 00:09:12.163 --> 00:09:13.379 but really, it was... 00:09:13.403 --> 00:09:14.419 On my hand. 00:09:14.443 --> 00:09:17.419 ...it was a death sentence for me and my children. 00:09:17.443 --> 00:09:20.379 This is Dale Jennings, News At Six. 00:09:20.403 --> 00:09:23.939 To the Philippines now where deposed President Ferdinand Marcos 00:09:23.963 --> 00:09:26.723 and his wife Imelda remain under siege. 00:09:34.123 --> 00:09:35.859 You first hatchet job. 00:09:35.883 --> 00:09:38.339 Congrats. It's quite a milestone. 00:09:38.363 --> 00:09:39.340 Sorry? 00:09:39.364 --> 00:09:40.659 You don't actually believe 00:09:40.683 --> 00:09:42.499 that there's people deliberately out there 00:09:42.523 --> 00:09:44.079 poisoning the blood banks, do you? 00:09:44.103 --> 00:09:46.499 I don't always get a final say about what goes into the edit. 00:09:46.523 --> 00:09:48.403 Well, you do get a say, though, don't you? 00:09:49.363 --> 00:09:51.819 I know it's a sensitive issue for you. 00:09:51.843 --> 00:09:54.163 Nah. It's just shit journalism. 00:10:00.203 --> 00:10:02.123 Hell of a story, mate. 00:10:03.123 --> 00:10:05.363 Brave. Thanks. 00:10:06.603 --> 00:10:08.463 Just hope you washed your hands. 00:10:14.523 --> 00:10:16.162 Yep. 00:10:18.843 --> 00:10:20.723 Night. See ya, mate. 00:10:30.743 --> 00:10:33.499 Maybe laughing now. Just laughing. 00:10:33.523 --> 00:10:34.923 One more time. 00:10:38.403 --> 00:10:39.899 Amazing. 00:10:39.923 --> 00:10:42.259 That was so much better. You look beautiful. 00:10:42.283 --> 00:10:44.299 Just your standard Thursday morning outfit. 00:10:44.323 --> 00:10:46.819 Well, we decided that it's cocktail hour, so. 00:10:46.843 --> 00:10:48.219 We have? Yes. 00:10:48.243 --> 00:10:50.359 Mr Jennings, if you just want to stand beside her, 00:10:50.483 --> 00:10:52.379 and maybe put your hand on her shoulder? 00:10:52.403 --> 00:10:53.419 Sweet. 00:10:53.443 --> 00:10:55.859 Um, isn't the bulletin at cocktail hour, though? 00:10:55.883 --> 00:10:58.259 Dale, you don't have to fact check the photoshoot. 00:10:58.283 --> 00:11:00.219 OK, just loosening up the shoulders. 00:11:00.243 --> 00:11:02.479 And if you just want to pick up the martini glass, 00:11:02.503 --> 00:11:03.943 maybe like you're offering a toast? 00:11:04.443 --> 00:11:05.723 Cheers. 00:11:07.603 --> 00:11:09.219 Is that real gin? 00:11:09.243 --> 00:11:10.939 Maybe laughing now. 00:11:10.963 --> 00:11:13.779 Laughing. Just laughing. 00:11:13.803 --> 00:11:17.803 Couple in love, enjoying each other's company. 00:11:20.243 --> 00:11:22.539 Mate, you look like you've been kicked in the nuts. 00:11:22.563 --> 00:11:24.339 OK. What's wrong? What is wrong? 00:11:24.363 --> 00:11:26.299 It just feels a bit artificial. 00:11:26.323 --> 00:11:27.659 Yeah, but that's the magic of it. 00:11:27.683 --> 00:11:29.899 It's not us presenting who we really are. 00:11:29.923 --> 00:11:33.179 It's more what people might imagine us to be. 00:11:33.203 --> 00:11:34.419 Just relax. 00:11:34.443 --> 00:11:36.403 It's just supposed to be romantic and fun. 00:11:37.763 --> 00:11:38.779 OK. 00:11:38.803 --> 00:11:41.379 No tension. 00:11:41.403 --> 00:11:43.402 One, two, three, looking. 00:11:48.803 --> 00:11:50.203 One more time. 00:11:58.523 --> 00:12:01.339 No more lies while * men die. 00:12:01.363 --> 00:12:04.179 No more lies while * men die. 00:12:04.203 --> 00:12:05.859 No more lies while * men die. 00:12:05.883 --> 00:12:07.219 What is this? 00:12:07.243 --> 00:12:09.419 No more lies while * men die. Um... 00:12:09.443 --> 00:12:11.339 Should we go to the staff entrance? 00:12:11.363 --> 00:12:12.859 No. 00:12:12.883 --> 00:12:14.419 I think we'll be OK. 00:12:14.443 --> 00:12:16.139 It's not Caroline Gibson, is it? 00:12:16.163 --> 00:12:21.139 No more lies while * men die. No more lies while * men die. 00:12:21.163 --> 00:12:23.939 No more lies while * men die. 00:12:23.963 --> 00:12:27.519 No more lies while * men die. No more lies while * men die. 00:12:27.843 --> 00:12:29.879 You're all liars, News At Six. 00:12:30.003 --> 00:12:31.299 Do a bit of research. 00:12:31.323 --> 00:12:32.522 Dale! 00:12:34.723 --> 00:12:36.842 It's Adam. Adam Lyndell. 00:12:45.243 --> 00:12:47.259 Did you... did you know that guy? 00:12:47.283 --> 00:12:49.259 He's just a research contact. 00:12:49.283 --> 00:12:50.819 You seen it? No. 00:12:50.843 --> 00:12:52.683 The protesters? The article. 00:12:54.003 --> 00:12:57.419 It's a whole op-ed about the quote I found. The Robert Schwab one. 00:12:57.443 --> 00:13:00.659 They say it was made up for some sort of anti-* pamphlet. 00:13:00.683 --> 00:13:02.059 I am so sorry. 00:13:02.083 --> 00:13:03.979 "Throughout the coverage of this epidemic, 00:13:04.003 --> 00:13:06.019 "we've heard from doctors, politicians, priests, 00:13:06.043 --> 00:13:09.159 "but the primary victims, * men, have been at best excluded 00:13:09.183 --> 00:13:10.359 "and at worst demonized." 00:13:10.383 --> 00:13:11.539 I mean, he's not wrong. 00:13:11.563 --> 00:13:12.683 Lindsay knows? 00:13:13.883 --> 00:13:17.059 This is what happens when you let game show girls 00:13:17.083 --> 00:13:19.899 and footy players front the news. 00:13:19.923 --> 00:13:21.539 Geoff, that's got nothing to do with that. 00:13:21.563 --> 00:13:23.999 That quote is solid. And Noelene found it, so it's legit. 00:13:24.023 --> 00:13:25.000 It's ridgy-didge, OK? 00:13:25.024 --> 00:13:28.619 Serious reporters, they develop an instinct for these sorts of things. 00:13:28.643 --> 00:13:31.299 You know if something doesn't pass the sniff test. 00:13:31.323 --> 00:13:34.019 Just calm down, Geoff. The Whitlam dismissal, '75. 00:13:34.043 --> 00:13:36.059 You remember. There was bedlam. 00:13:36.083 --> 00:13:38.579 There was rumours flying around everywhere. 00:13:38.603 --> 00:13:42.159 And some donkey in Canberra got wind that the Queen was in on it. 00:13:42.183 --> 00:13:44.219 You wanted to run it as fact. 00:13:44.243 --> 00:13:47.339 My gut told me it didn't hold water, 00:13:47.363 --> 00:13:48.739 so we held off. 00:13:48.763 --> 00:13:52.539 And guess what? I saved us the humiliation of an apology! 00:13:52.563 --> 00:13:55.299 Helen and Rob could never make that call! 00:13:55.323 --> 00:13:57.579 Listen, mate, this is a completely different situation, alright? 00:13:57.603 --> 00:13:59.139 Now, these people outside, 00:13:59.163 --> 00:14:01.419 they're just a pack of pillow biters who are whipping up trouble. 00:14:01.443 --> 00:14:03.259 Now, this quote is legit. 00:14:03.283 --> 00:14:04.499 It's solid. 00:14:04.523 --> 00:14:07.183 We can back it up and we're gonna do that tonight. 00:14:14.603 --> 00:14:15.723 Noelene! 00:14:18.803 --> 00:14:22.039 Noelene! That quote better be * watertight, you got that? 00:14:22.063 --> 00:14:24.699 I'm getting more articles from the Herald Library. 00:14:24.723 --> 00:14:27.219 I'm also checking with the blood bank and the AIDS Council. 00:14:27.243 --> 00:14:29.939 I'm waiting for them to call back. Well, go call them now, will you? 00:14:29.963 --> 00:14:32.899 We are not issuing an apology on this unless we absolutely have to. 00:14:32.923 --> 00:14:34.479 OK? Now, what's the follow up? 00:14:34.503 --> 00:14:37.239 Well, I think that we should interview the op-ed writer. 00:14:37.263 --> 00:14:38.919 That's insane. Why would we back away? 00:14:38.943 --> 00:14:39.859 It's clearly hit a nerve. 00:14:39.883 --> 00:14:41.359 I'm just telling you it's a recipe for disaster. 00:14:41.383 --> 00:14:43.879 I think that Dale should interview the op-ed writer, 00:14:43.903 --> 00:14:45.639 then follow up with the blood bank 00:14:45.663 --> 00:14:47.822 and I'll interview an AIDS sufferer... 00:14:48.163 --> 00:14:51.219 Yeah, I know, Dennis, but we went up last night 00:14:51.243 --> 00:14:53.419 and that's never happened before on an AIDS story, 00:14:53.443 --> 00:14:54.642 so we'll keep going. 00:14:57.643 --> 00:14:59.799 Caroline actually mentioned that there was problems in some schools, 00:14:59.823 --> 00:15:01.539 so that could be another story. 00:15:01.563 --> 00:15:03.979 Dale, you could maybe interview a parent. 00:15:04.003 --> 00:15:05.959 I'm prepping for Anzac Day. 00:15:05.983 --> 00:15:06.959 Jesus, Dale. 00:15:06.983 --> 00:15:08.983 They're throwing eggs out there now. What? 00:15:09.363 --> 00:15:10.699 Egged my car. 00:15:10.723 --> 00:15:12.283 That happen to anyone else? 00:15:13.363 --> 00:15:14.923 Do those protesters have AIDS? 00:15:16.723 --> 00:15:18.659 I wonder if there was AIDS in what they threw. 00:15:18.683 --> 00:15:21.423 You think they put HIV positive blood into an egg? 00:15:22.563 --> 00:15:23.683 Yes. 00:15:24.883 --> 00:15:25.963 Jesus. Come on, everybody. 00:15:29.483 --> 00:15:31.819 Don't back away from this. This is your story. 00:15:31.843 --> 00:15:34.099 Yeah, and it's a disaster. No, it's not. 00:15:34.123 --> 00:15:36.979 We'll get it back on track. Have you spoken to Caroline? 00:15:37.003 --> 00:15:39.099 You should, because all the other networks will be calling her 00:15:39.123 --> 00:15:40.859 and it will be very overwhelming. 00:15:40.883 --> 00:15:42.199 And this... this happens. 00:15:42.223 --> 00:15:43.779 Sometimes things blow up. 00:15:43.803 --> 00:15:45.163 It's gonna be OK. 00:16:09.883 --> 00:16:12.299 Do you have a spokesperson or an organiser? 00:16:12.323 --> 00:16:14.939 We don't have an organiser. We're a collective. 00:16:14.963 --> 00:16:17.019 OK, I understand why you're upset. 00:16:17.043 --> 00:16:19.419 That's why I'd like to show a different perspective. 00:16:19.443 --> 00:16:22.159 I'm very interested in talking to an AIDS sufferer, 00:16:22.183 --> 00:16:23.479 someone who's *, 00:16:23.503 --> 00:16:27.099 and not just about the blood bank controversy, but about their life. 00:16:27.123 --> 00:16:30.499 I'm genuinely interested in putting the other perspective on air. 00:16:30.523 --> 00:16:32.059 My lover has AIDS. 00:16:32.083 --> 00:16:33.459 OK. 00:16:33.483 --> 00:16:36.019 Let me get your name and I'll set something up. 00:16:36.043 --> 00:16:37.163 Adam. 00:16:46.323 --> 00:16:47.483 What's wrong? 00:16:48.603 --> 00:16:49.683 I confirmed it. 00:16:50.843 --> 00:16:52.463 The article was right. 00:16:53.403 --> 00:16:56.979 A religious fundamentalist group in the US fabricated the quote 00:16:57.003 --> 00:16:59.243 for these anti-* pamphlets. 00:17:00.283 --> 00:17:02.163 It spread at the start of '84. 00:17:03.403 --> 00:17:05.923 I found all these subsequent sources debunking it. 00:17:06.843 --> 00:17:08.539 Dale... 00:17:08.563 --> 00:17:10.123 This is really bad. It's OK. 00:17:13.123 --> 00:17:16.563 I was the reporter. Lindsay signed off on it. 00:17:19.123 --> 00:17:20.699 Have you told Dennis? 00:17:20.723 --> 00:17:22.003 No. 00:17:31.763 --> 00:17:34.083 Noelene confirmed the quote was false. 00:17:44.523 --> 00:17:46.843 We've confirmed that the quote was false. 00:17:52.723 --> 00:17:53.923 *** 00:17:59.003 --> 00:18:01.323 Right. We are doing an apology. 00:18:02.723 --> 00:18:04.803 And you're coming to see me after the bulletin. 00:18:14.143 --> 00:18:20.143 27, 33 and the supplementary number is 26. 00:18:20.923 --> 00:18:24.139 And don't forget that tomorrow is a public holiday for Anzac Day. 00:18:24.163 --> 00:18:25.619 It certainly is, Rob. 00:18:25.643 --> 00:18:29.539 So all dividends will be announced after the long weekend. 00:18:29.563 --> 00:18:32.579 But before we leave you this evening, a clarification. 00:18:32.603 --> 00:18:34.659 Last night, the News At Six aired a story 00:18:34.683 --> 00:18:37.739 about a woman who contracted HIV from the blood bank. 00:18:37.763 --> 00:18:41.939 A statement attributed to the late US activist Robert Schwab 00:18:41.963 --> 00:18:44.179 was incorrect. 00:18:44.203 --> 00:18:47.123 We apologise unreservedly. 00:18:48.483 --> 00:18:50.719 We'll leave you tonight... First apology in years. 00:18:50.743 --> 00:18:54.619 ...musicians from China, touring Australia for a series of concerts. 00:18:54.643 --> 00:18:57.299 I'm Helen Norville. And I'm Rob Rickards. 00:18:57.323 --> 00:18:59.299 Good night. Good night. 00:18:59.323 --> 00:19:02.059 I suppose that's the best they can muster. 00:19:02.083 --> 00:19:04.179 Well, I'm changing the channel. 00:19:04.203 --> 00:19:08.819 Sale Of The Century or there's a doco on Japan. 00:19:08.843 --> 00:19:13.059 You know, the thing that kills me is there is a great story there. 00:19:13.083 --> 00:19:14.819 You'd never know it from that bulletin, 00:19:14.843 --> 00:19:17.799 but they have stumbled on to one of the most critical stories 00:19:17.823 --> 00:19:18.979 of our time. 00:19:19.003 --> 00:19:21.059 And the * have put society at risk. 00:19:21.083 --> 00:19:22.619 Of course they have. 00:19:22.643 --> 00:19:25.099 And no news outlet will touch it. 00:19:25.123 --> 00:19:26.419 Instead of exposing it, 00:19:26.443 --> 00:19:29.699 they've muddied the waters with... with conspiracy theories, 00:19:29.723 --> 00:19:30.939 misquotes... 00:19:30.963 --> 00:19:33.339 But it reflects well on you, doesn't it? 00:19:33.363 --> 00:19:36.419 A month without you and look where they've ended up! 00:19:36.443 --> 00:19:38.699 Apologising, grovelling. 00:19:38.723 --> 00:19:42.963 Best thing you can do is sit back and let them fall apart. 00:19:52.923 --> 00:19:55.043 Noelene. A word. 00:20:07.123 --> 00:20:09.723 Close the door after yourself, will you, please? 00:20:15.443 --> 00:20:16.443 Well. 00:20:17.923 --> 00:20:19.859 It's a sad old shitshow, isn't it? 00:20:19.883 --> 00:20:24.259 Lindsay, I am so, so sorry. 00:20:24.283 --> 00:20:25.899 The quote came up a couple of times, 00:20:25.923 --> 00:20:28.779 so I didn't think I needed to cross check it further. 00:20:28.803 --> 00:20:31.779 I promise this will never happen again. 00:20:31.803 --> 00:20:33.043 Look... 00:20:34.483 --> 00:20:35.883 ...easy mistake to make. 00:20:38.403 --> 00:20:40.339 Yes, still, I wanted to stress... 00:20:40.363 --> 00:20:44.419 But it was your mistake and we had to apologise. 00:20:44.443 --> 00:20:46.003 So, I'm sorry. 00:20:49.203 --> 00:20:50.283 You gotta go. 00:20:54.443 --> 00:20:57.523 Lots of typing work out there. You'll be fine. 00:21:01.723 --> 00:21:03.459 Thank you for the opportunity. 00:21:03.483 --> 00:21:04.523 Not at all. 00:21:16.123 --> 00:21:17.419 Mate, not now. 00:21:17.443 --> 00:21:19.759 Noelene was just doing what she was asked. 00:21:19.783 --> 00:21:21.299 Mate... Can't you just put her on suspension? 00:21:21.323 --> 00:21:23.259 You wanted to run the quote. I was the... 00:21:23.283 --> 00:21:24.699 Wake up to yourself, ya drip! 00:21:24.723 --> 00:21:27.363 If you weren't Mr Helen Norville, you'd be out on your arse too. 00:21:28.803 --> 00:21:31.923 So I'd tread very carefully, young Dale. 00:21:34.163 --> 00:21:35.363 Thin ice. 00:21:44.003 --> 00:21:47.099 Noelene, I'm gonna talk to Helen. It's OK. 00:21:47.123 --> 00:21:50.419 No, it's not. She won't stand for it and neither will Rob. 00:21:50.443 --> 00:21:54.779 Thank you, but I don't want to cause any more trouble. 00:21:54.803 --> 00:21:56.339 I'll... I'll... I'll do a ring around. 00:21:56.363 --> 00:21:58.539 There might be something going at another network. 00:21:58.563 --> 00:21:59.643 Thank you. 00:23:15.803 --> 00:23:17.219 Hello? 00:23:17.243 --> 00:23:19.139 Lindsay sacked Noelene. 00:23:19.163 --> 00:23:20.140 What? 00:23:20.164 --> 00:23:21.699 Yeah, right after the bulletin. 00:23:21.723 --> 00:23:23.979 He wouldn't listen to me, so can you call him? 00:23:24.003 --> 00:23:26.499 Are you still at work? No, I'm at home. 00:23:26.523 --> 00:23:28.739 Actually, do you know what? Call Rob. 00:23:28.763 --> 00:23:30.683 Lindsay might pay more attention to him. 00:23:31.963 --> 00:23:34.939 Um, Dale, I'm making dinner for us. 00:23:34.963 --> 00:23:37.379 I've got to be up before dawn. I've got a 15-hour day. 00:23:37.403 --> 00:23:38.403 I'm sorry. 00:23:39.443 --> 00:23:41.819 Is there something wrong? Yes. 00:23:41.843 --> 00:23:43.939 I * up with my reporting and my colleague lost her job. 00:23:43.963 --> 00:23:45.099 Isn't that enough? 00:23:45.123 --> 00:23:47.579 I just think maybe if you come over here, we can talk about... 00:23:47.603 --> 00:23:49.539 No. No, Helen, I can't. 00:23:49.563 --> 00:23:51.659 I've gotta be up at three. 00:23:51.683 --> 00:23:53.259 Sorry. 00:23:53.283 --> 00:23:54.563 Goodnight. 00:23:55.563 --> 00:23:56.642 Night. 00:24:56.003 --> 00:24:57.179 Hi. Hi, Adam. 00:24:57.203 --> 00:24:58.339 Come in. 00:24:58.363 --> 00:24:59.899 Thank you so much for agreeing to this. 00:24:59.923 --> 00:25:01.419 We're lucky. 00:25:01.443 --> 00:25:03.523 It's a good day for Russell. Relatively. 00:25:04.403 --> 00:25:07.539 Russ, this is Helen Norville. 00:25:07.563 --> 00:25:10.659 Hi. It's a pleasure to meet you. 00:25:10.683 --> 00:25:13.259 I hear you might be putting me on the telly. 00:25:13.283 --> 00:25:15.482 Let's just see how we go? 00:25:17.643 --> 00:25:19.699 I thought you were gonna make me a star. 00:25:19.723 --> 00:25:22.499 Well. You think it's too late for me. 00:25:22.523 --> 00:25:23.523 Never. 00:25:24.763 --> 00:25:27.419 Is the other reporter coming? The Bendigo boy? 00:25:27.443 --> 00:25:30.779 No. You can't have too many visitors. 00:25:30.803 --> 00:25:32.779 I forgot that you'd had contact with Dale. 00:25:32.803 --> 00:25:34.539 Was that for this issue? 00:25:34.563 --> 00:25:35.899 No. 00:25:35.923 --> 00:25:37.803 Actually, I went to high school with Dale. 00:25:38.843 --> 00:25:40.403 In Bendigo, hence the... 00:25:41.923 --> 00:25:44.179 Were you friends at school? 00:25:44.203 --> 00:25:46.123 I don't know. 00:25:47.123 --> 00:25:50.283 He's not exactly the most popular alumnus. 00:25:52.203 --> 00:25:54.563 Um, cuppa? Or water? 00:25:56.643 --> 00:25:58.083 Glass of water, please. 00:26:06.403 --> 00:26:08.099 How did you two meet? 00:26:08.123 --> 00:26:11.579 Well, we were both working at the university. 00:26:11.603 --> 00:26:13.099 When was it, darling? 00:26:13.123 --> 00:26:15.539 '82? Yes, it was. 00:26:15.563 --> 00:26:16.723 In '82. 00:26:17.763 --> 00:26:20.939 And we locked eyes at a faculty drinks. 00:26:20.963 --> 00:26:24.259 But at the time, Adam wasn't out, 00:26:24.283 --> 00:26:28.019 so the whole thing was very secretive. 00:26:28.043 --> 00:26:31.122 Almost like we were having some thrilling affair. 00:26:33.643 --> 00:26:34.643 Thank you. 00:26:36.403 --> 00:26:39.299 So may I... may I ask about the diagnosis? 00:26:39.323 --> 00:26:40.643 That's what you're here for. 00:26:41.843 --> 00:26:43.619 How did that happen? 00:26:43.643 --> 00:26:46.099 I'd had a bad run of colds, 00:26:46.123 --> 00:26:48.523 but I'd been putting off seeing a doctor. 00:26:49.603 --> 00:26:50.763 I think... 00:26:51.683 --> 00:26:52.883 ...part of me knew. 00:26:55.243 --> 00:27:00.163 But then I bit the bullet and three weeks later, the results came back. 00:27:02.003 --> 00:27:03.779 What was it like for you, Adam? 00:27:03.803 --> 00:27:05.202 Getting tested? 00:27:06.723 --> 00:27:07.923 Awful. 00:27:09.763 --> 00:27:11.883 Waiting for the results was agony. 00:27:13.163 --> 00:27:15.123 And I started bargaining with myself. 00:27:16.403 --> 00:27:18.579 I said, "If the test results come back negative, 00:27:18.603 --> 00:27:20.859 "then I'll never sleep with another man again." 00:27:20.883 --> 00:27:23.003 And if they came back positive? 00:27:27.523 --> 00:27:28.963 ...I'd end it. 00:27:30.003 --> 00:27:31.283 With Russ? 00:27:35.803 --> 00:27:36.803 My life. 00:27:42.243 --> 00:27:45.179 So, I really want to put your story on camera. 00:27:45.203 --> 00:27:46.739 Now, if you're open to it. 00:27:46.763 --> 00:27:49.419 I think I could get a crew here, maybe even today. 00:27:49.443 --> 00:27:50.659 I don't know. 00:27:50.683 --> 00:27:53.423 It could be, a small crew. Only if it's live. 00:27:54.843 --> 00:27:56.619 I'd do it... 00:27:56.643 --> 00:27:58.219 ...if it's live to air. 00:27:58.243 --> 00:27:59.779 Russ... No. 00:27:59.803 --> 00:28:03.539 I don't want to be chopped up and spliced between Fred Nile... 00:28:03.563 --> 00:28:06.279 We wouldn't water you down. We need to talk about this. 00:28:06.303 --> 00:28:08.383 I know how it goes. 00:28:09.083 --> 00:28:11.499 You might have the best of intentions, 00:28:11.523 --> 00:28:12.859 but your boss has done... 00:28:12.883 --> 00:28:14.859 I can look at getting a live cross out here, 00:28:14.883 --> 00:28:16.539 but... it's a bit... 00:28:16.563 --> 00:28:20.499 I want to be in the studio and I want to sit at that desk. 00:28:20.523 --> 00:28:21.539 Russ. 00:28:21.563 --> 00:28:23.899 Do you have those makeup mirrors 00:28:23.923 --> 00:28:25.843 with the light bulbs all around them? 00:28:27.323 --> 00:28:29.019 Yes, we do. 00:28:29.043 --> 00:28:30.123 Well, then. 00:28:31.803 --> 00:28:33.123 Make me a star. 00:28:36.163 --> 00:28:39.019 Hey. They charged my car. 00:28:39.043 --> 00:28:40.859 Spat on it. Who? The protesters? 00:28:40.883 --> 00:28:44.259 Yeah, they yelled so hard, bits of spit landed on the windscreen. 00:28:44.283 --> 00:28:46.099 I just... I don't understand, mate. 00:28:46.123 --> 00:28:48.219 We apologised. Why are they still even here? 00:28:48.243 --> 00:28:49.939 Mate, don't worry about it. 00:28:49.963 --> 00:28:52.119 Well, can't we get the coppers to move 'em on or something? 00:28:52.143 --> 00:28:54.299 Yeah, well, you're going to speak to two of them tonight, 00:28:54.323 --> 00:28:56.459 so hopefully that'll shut the door on it. 00:28:56.483 --> 00:28:57.399 What? 00:28:57.423 --> 00:28:59.023 Helen chased down an interview. 00:29:00.643 --> 00:29:03.499 An AIDS patient on the desk. 00:29:03.523 --> 00:29:04.643 Yes. 00:29:05.843 --> 00:29:07.859 Well, Helen could do it alone, couldn't she? 00:29:07.883 --> 00:29:09.279 Well, how do you think that's going to work, Rob? 00:29:09.303 --> 00:29:11.879 We're gonna cut to the desk and you're just not there. 00:29:11.903 --> 00:29:12.859 Yeah. 00:29:12.883 --> 00:29:14.259 Mate, it's just three minutes. 00:29:14.283 --> 00:29:16.723 We'll write down the questions. You'll be fine. 00:29:17.843 --> 00:29:19.339 Where's Noelene? 00:29:19.363 --> 00:29:20.963 It was, Lindsay's call, not mine. 00:29:23.083 --> 00:29:24.659 What do you mean? 00:29:24.683 --> 00:29:27.339 She got sacked late, over the misquotes. 00:29:27.363 --> 00:29:29.259 After last night's bulletin. 00:29:29.283 --> 00:29:31.003 As I said, wasn't my call. 00:29:31.963 --> 00:29:33.179 Rob, just don't... 00:29:33.203 --> 00:29:35.499 Did you sack Noelene? Sorry? 00:29:35.523 --> 00:29:38.659 This place is bullshit. You can't sack Noelene. 00:29:38.683 --> 00:29:41.159 She does 10 times as much work as anyone else here. 00:29:41.183 --> 00:29:43.019 Come one, Rob. Mate, I don't like it either. 00:29:43.043 --> 00:29:45.419 But upstairs wanted a head to roll 00:29:45.443 --> 00:29:46.539 and she had the most expendable head. 00:29:46.563 --> 00:29:47.939 Well, get her on the phone. Get her back. 00:29:47.963 --> 00:29:50.399 Don't you come in here, yelping orders at me. 00:29:50.423 --> 00:29:52.499 If you don't her back right now, I'm happy to... 00:29:52.523 --> 00:29:53.939 What are you gonna do, son? What are you gonna do? 00:29:53.963 --> 00:29:55.859 Well, I'll * walk is what I'll do. I don't care. 00:29:55.883 --> 00:29:56.860 Yeah? Yeah. 00:29:56.884 --> 00:29:58.083 It's done. 00:29:58.923 --> 00:30:00.499 Righto, mate. 00:30:00.523 --> 00:30:01.859 That's how you're gonna treat people. 00:30:01.883 --> 00:30:04.539 Well! 00:30:04.563 --> 00:30:06.739 Very * professional, Rob. 00:30:06.763 --> 00:30:07.979 Chuckin' a hissy fit. No, no. 00:30:08.003 --> 00:30:10.019 You find someone else to sit on your desk. 00:30:10.043 --> 00:30:11.859 Come on! 00:30:11.883 --> 00:30:12.979 Hey! 00:30:13.003 --> 00:30:14.339 You fancy her, don't ya? 00:30:14.363 --> 00:30:17.859 Son, you are scraping the bottom of the * barrel. 00:30:17.883 --> 00:30:19.603 You... Righto, mate. 00:30:31.483 --> 00:30:32.843 You poor bastard. 00:30:34.963 --> 00:30:38.163 Well, piss off back to Echuca, you sausage-roll-munching bastard. 00:30:58.563 --> 00:31:00.859 Need a moment? 00:31:00.883 --> 00:31:03.483 I need a * decade. 00:31:06.323 --> 00:31:07.763 Should I call Noelene? 00:31:15.083 --> 00:31:16.539 Yes. 00:31:16.563 --> 00:31:21.283 And you can inform her her suspension... is over. 00:31:36.483 --> 00:31:37.603 Hello? 00:31:38.723 --> 00:31:39.883 Is Noelene there? 00:31:40.723 --> 00:31:42.083 Noelene Kim? 00:32:12.443 --> 00:32:14.043 OK, just do it. 00:32:17.643 --> 00:32:19.139 Rob! Evelyn. 00:32:19.163 --> 00:32:23.843 Um, I'm sorry to turn up unannounced. 00:32:25.043 --> 00:32:27.843 I don't suppose Geoff's free at the minute, is he? 00:32:29.283 --> 00:32:31.043 Yeah. Come in. Thanks. 00:32:35.483 --> 00:32:37.963 Good job, darling. You're the eucalyptus hunter. 00:32:40.363 --> 00:32:42.099 Well, hey, you look pretty good, Cap. 00:32:42.123 --> 00:32:43.579 Well... 00:32:43.603 --> 00:32:46.099 ...they've got me, wrapped up in cotton wool, 00:32:46.123 --> 00:32:47.763 but I'm getting there. 00:32:48.883 --> 00:32:50.123 Listen, um... 00:32:51.283 --> 00:32:53.219 ...I'm sorry for not coming around to see you sooner. 00:32:53.243 --> 00:32:55.123 It's just been... Of course. Of course. 00:32:55.963 --> 00:33:00.219 To be honest, I've been imagining you sitting up there watching me 00:33:00.243 --> 00:33:03.739 and thinking, "Who is this joker who's taken my job?" 00:33:03.763 --> 00:33:04.939 Not at all. 00:33:04.963 --> 00:33:06.979 Well, I want you to know that I know... 00:33:07.003 --> 00:33:08.179 ...how shithouse I'm doing. 00:33:08.203 --> 00:33:09.579 It's... 00:33:09.603 --> 00:33:11.139 It's just... 00:33:11.163 --> 00:33:12.683 It's never a job I wanted. 00:33:13.683 --> 00:33:15.659 And I certainly never lobbied for it. 00:33:15.683 --> 00:33:16.843 I know that. 00:33:18.043 --> 00:33:20.339 And given the circumstances, you've done very well 00:33:20.363 --> 00:33:22.859 and you will continue to grow. 00:33:22.883 --> 00:33:23.899 No doubt. 00:33:23.923 --> 00:33:26.659 Actually, I think I'm done, 'cause... 00:33:26.683 --> 00:33:28.883 ...yeah, I walked out today. 00:33:30.483 --> 00:33:31.499 What? 00:33:31.523 --> 00:33:33.259 Well, it's the blowout from this AIDS story. 00:33:33.283 --> 00:33:35.419 There's riots outside the building. 00:33:35.443 --> 00:33:36.819 Noelene got the sack 00:33:36.843 --> 00:33:38.219 and now they want me, right, 00:33:38.243 --> 00:33:42.259 to interview one of the protesters with AIDS live on the desk. 00:33:42.283 --> 00:33:43.743 And I'm... I'm not up for it. 00:33:45.083 --> 00:33:48.119 You put me with a sportsman and I can go for hours, 00:33:48.143 --> 00:33:49.343 but this situation, it's... 00:33:53.683 --> 00:33:54.723 I'm not you. 00:33:55.923 --> 00:33:57.123 I'll never be. 00:33:58.323 --> 00:33:59.739 And I know that. 00:33:59.763 --> 00:34:00.923 And... 00:34:02.323 --> 00:34:03.683 ...I want you to know... 00:34:05.163 --> 00:34:06.723 ...that I know that. 00:34:16.763 --> 00:34:18.162 I appreciate that, Rob. 00:34:19.323 --> 00:34:21.443 It takes a very decent man to be that honest. 00:34:22.323 --> 00:34:23.443 Well done. 00:34:25.483 --> 00:34:26.483 Evelyn? 00:34:27.483 --> 00:34:28.723 Lay out a suit. 00:34:31.563 --> 00:34:34.002 New runsheet. This is now after the AIDS interview. 00:34:36.803 --> 00:34:37.883 AIDS interview? 00:34:41.923 --> 00:34:45.243 Do you wanna have one last look at this parade story or are you happy? 00:34:47.523 --> 00:34:49.619 Dale? It's fine. 00:34:49.643 --> 00:34:52.363 Great! Let's move on to the dawn service. 00:34:54.803 --> 00:34:57.003 Adam, Russell, just this way. 00:35:00.843 --> 00:35:03.162 Just come through here, if you like. 00:35:05.643 --> 00:35:07.843 Do you need a hand? We're fine, thanks. 00:35:11.123 --> 00:35:13.259 You may need everything in that kit of yours. 00:35:13.283 --> 00:35:15.763 Nah, we'll have you glowing in no time. 00:35:17.603 --> 00:35:19.203 Just in here? 00:35:21.923 --> 00:35:24.043 Yes. Yep. 00:35:25.043 --> 00:35:26.323 Just take a seat. 00:35:33.083 --> 00:35:36.419 You can't get it, by the way, just doing his make-up. 00:35:36.443 --> 00:35:39.059 Yeah, I know that. 00:35:39.083 --> 00:35:42.219 Less talk, more make-up. 00:35:42.243 --> 00:35:43.563 Alright. 00:35:44.563 --> 00:35:48.139 Tonight, Australia commemorates Anzac Day. 00:35:48.163 --> 00:35:50.259 From the dawn service to the parade, 00:35:50.283 --> 00:35:52.659 a record number of Australians lined the streets 00:35:52.683 --> 00:35:56.019 to honour those who have made the ultimate sacrifice. 00:35:56.043 --> 00:35:58.339 It's about a nation, it's about a country. 00:35:58.363 --> 00:36:00.579 And living with the AIDS virus. 00:36:00.603 --> 00:36:03.699 It's feared, it's debated, it's misunderstood. 00:36:03.723 --> 00:36:06.499 But for * couple, Russell and Adam, 00:36:06.523 --> 00:36:09.099 AIDS isn't a headline, it's their life. 00:36:09.123 --> 00:36:12.619 We'll be speaking to them later on in the program. 00:36:12.643 --> 00:36:15.059 And from all of us at News at 6, 00:36:15.083 --> 00:36:18.019 a very warm welcome back to you, Geoff. 00:36:18.043 --> 00:36:19.179 Thank you, Helen. 00:36:19.203 --> 00:36:22.299 And to all the viewers who sent cards, flowers and well wishes... 00:36:22.323 --> 00:36:24.963 Blah, blah, bloody blah. ..a very, very sincere thank you. 00:36:28.323 --> 00:36:31.779 A huge turnout for Anzac Day marches around the country 00:36:31.803 --> 00:36:33.979 has surprised even the RSL. 00:36:34.003 --> 00:36:35.419 Dale Jennings reports. 00:36:35.443 --> 00:36:37.579 Thousands of people... And we're clear! 00:36:37.603 --> 00:36:40.899 If I could have my AIDS gentlemen around, please? 00:36:40.923 --> 00:36:43.123 And to think about those who made it home too. 00:36:44.683 --> 00:36:46.483 Just up the stairs here, gents. 00:36:47.523 --> 00:36:49.639 Russell, you're here, and Adam, you're here. 00:36:49.663 --> 00:36:52.339 Thank you again. Hi, Russell. Hi. 00:36:52.363 --> 00:36:53.859 Thank you. 00:36:53.883 --> 00:36:55.823 This is... Geoff Walters. Welcome. 00:36:56.843 --> 00:36:59.059 I, I thought it was just with you. 00:36:59.083 --> 00:37:04.499 Live interviews are conducted by us both. 00:37:04.523 --> 00:37:05.979 This is a really special bulletin 00:37:06.003 --> 00:37:08.339 'cause this is Geoff's first since returning. 00:37:08.363 --> 00:37:10.403 Lucky us. And we are on in 20. 00:37:11.723 --> 00:37:13.779 Adam, what should I call you? 00:37:13.803 --> 00:37:15.819 Companion? Friend? 00:37:15.843 --> 00:37:16.820 Lover. 00:37:16.844 --> 00:37:18.483 And in 10. 00:37:19.483 --> 00:37:22.523 On my hand in five, four... 00:37:24.763 --> 00:37:27.379 Dale Jennings, News at 6. 00:37:27.403 --> 00:37:30.899 It's the greatest health crisis to face the country this century. 00:37:30.923 --> 00:37:34.859 Hundreds of Australians are now infected with the AIDS virus, 00:37:34.883 --> 00:37:38.259 and experts predict it will soon be thousands. 00:37:38.283 --> 00:37:41.979 Among those scores, Russell and his companion Adam. 00:37:42.003 --> 00:37:44.379 They join us in the studio tonight. 00:37:44.403 --> 00:37:46.099 Welcome. 00:37:46.123 --> 00:37:49.203 Russell, can you explain your diagnosis? 00:37:50.123 --> 00:37:52.579 Well, there's a few. 00:37:52.603 --> 00:37:57.099 Um, stomach cancer, which is what's making me sick. 00:37:57.123 --> 00:37:59.099 Also AIDS. 00:37:59.123 --> 00:38:01.499 How severe is it at the moment? 00:38:01.523 --> 00:38:04.442 Well, I'm not about to go dancing, put it that way. 00:38:05.563 --> 00:38:08.219 I have my good days and my bad days. 00:38:08.243 --> 00:38:10.459 But I'm very lucky. 00:38:10.483 --> 00:38:14.379 You don't usually think of an AIDS sufferer as being lucky. 00:38:14.403 --> 00:38:17.483 But my lover, Adam... 00:38:18.563 --> 00:38:20.923 ...has been a huge support to me. 00:38:21.923 --> 00:38:24.299 Some people have to go through this alone, 00:38:24.323 --> 00:38:26.179 which I just can't imagine. 00:38:26.203 --> 00:38:28.659 When your results came back positive, 00:38:28.683 --> 00:38:30.339 how did that impact you? 00:38:30.363 --> 00:38:32.739 It was horrific. 00:38:32.763 --> 00:38:35.499 All of a sudden, you're staring down your own mortality 00:38:35.523 --> 00:38:37.163 at the age of 35. 00:38:38.363 --> 00:38:40.259 But the worst part, by far, 00:38:40.283 --> 00:38:42.039 was knowing that I'd put Adam at risk. 00:38:42.063 --> 00:38:45.499 But, Adam, you are not infected. 00:38:45.523 --> 00:38:47.539 Is that right? That's right. 00:38:47.563 --> 00:38:50.779 I got tested right after Russell found out 00:38:50.803 --> 00:38:53.419 and, um, well, waiting for those results, 00:38:53.443 --> 00:38:56.099 that was the worst time in my life. 00:38:56.123 --> 00:38:58.139 And I'm ashamed to say that... 00:38:58.163 --> 00:39:00.003 Sorry, sorry, just to go back. 00:39:01.443 --> 00:39:03.579 As a loyal long-term couple, 00:39:03.603 --> 00:39:06.939 how do you account for the fact that one of you contracted the virus 00:39:06.963 --> 00:39:09.539 and the other one did not? 00:39:09.563 --> 00:39:13.762 Well, we were a couple, but we were not a monogamous couple. 00:39:15.323 --> 00:39:18.419 Adam, did you know that Russell was non-monogamous? 00:39:18.443 --> 00:39:19.979 Yes, I did. 00:39:20.003 --> 00:39:21.939 Adam, you were saying while you were waiting... 00:39:21.963 --> 00:39:24.139 Were you angry with Russell 00:39:24.163 --> 00:39:26.403 because of the huge risk he exposed you to? 00:39:27.563 --> 00:39:28.819 No. 00:39:28.843 --> 00:39:30.419 No? 00:39:30.443 --> 00:39:33.259 Russell, do you regret your lack of monogamy? 00:39:33.283 --> 00:39:35.899 No, not at all. Not at all. 00:39:35.923 --> 00:39:39.499 My only regret is that I wish we'd known about the virus back then. 00:39:39.523 --> 00:39:42.779 Well, amongst the public at large, 00:39:42.803 --> 00:39:45.899 there's the impression that * men have spread this disease, 00:39:45.923 --> 00:39:48.019 putting the whole community at risk 00:39:48.043 --> 00:39:51.459 because of promiscuity and carelessness. 00:39:51.483 --> 00:39:55.899 Now, even despite the terrifying price that you've paid, 00:39:55.923 --> 00:39:58.659 you still wouldn't endorse monogamy? 00:39:58.683 --> 00:40:00.259 No, no. 00:40:00.283 --> 00:40:02.163 I would endorse safe *. 00:40:03.403 --> 00:40:05.819 Adam, you've been caring for Russell at home... 00:40:05.843 --> 00:40:08.499 Imagine a mother whose young children have AIDS. 00:40:08.523 --> 00:40:11.139 A mother who's devastated... Come on. 00:40:11.163 --> 00:40:14.179 ...because a promiscuous * man donated blood. 00:40:14.203 --> 00:40:16.199 What would you say to them? * hell! 00:40:16.223 --> 00:40:18.259 Maybe that heart attack's done him some good! 00:40:18.283 --> 00:40:21.679 What would you say to a mother who's about to lose her young children? 00:40:21.703 --> 00:40:24.459 Well, I would extend my greatest sympathy. 00:40:24.483 --> 00:40:26.699 What would you say to Adam's mother 00:40:26.723 --> 00:40:29.979 whose son's life you put at risk by your behaviour? 00:40:30.003 --> 00:40:32.579 I think we should move on to... My mother... 00:40:32.603 --> 00:40:35.163 ...in fact, my whole family, don't speak to me. 00:40:38.323 --> 00:40:40.179 That must be very, very difficult. 00:40:40.203 --> 00:40:41.563 Yeah. 00:40:44.243 --> 00:40:45.403 It's agony. 00:40:47.843 --> 00:40:50.843 But I've spent most of my life trying to avoid it. 00:40:51.403 --> 00:40:53.803 But in the end, denying the truth about myself... 00:40:55.923 --> 00:40:57.483 ...that was even worse. 00:40:59.323 --> 00:41:02.219 Russell, Adam, I'm afraid that's all we have time for tonight. 00:41:02.243 --> 00:41:03.699 Thank you both very much. 00:41:03.723 --> 00:41:05.923 We'll be right back after the break. 00:41:07.243 --> 00:41:08.699 Bugger me, I can tell you, 00:41:08.723 --> 00:41:11.479 I have not seen this bloke this sharp since the 1970s. 00:41:11.503 --> 00:41:13.019 He's grown a set in hospital, that's what he's done. 00:41:13.043 --> 00:41:15.162 Come on, hey! 00:41:16.523 --> 00:41:17.683 And clear! 00:41:21.843 --> 00:41:23.923 I am so sorry. 00:41:24.923 --> 00:41:27.819 Adam, Russell, I didn't know that Geoff was gonna be at the bulletin. 00:41:27.843 --> 00:41:29.339 I didn't think that he was gonna take... 00:41:29.363 --> 00:41:31.859 If your goal was to subdue those protests, 00:41:31.883 --> 00:41:35.179 I suspect you might have fallen a little short. 00:41:35.203 --> 00:41:37.019 Is Dale here? 00:41:37.043 --> 00:41:39.219 I don't think so, no. 00:41:39.243 --> 00:41:41.363 Could I get you to pass on a message from me? 00:41:42.683 --> 00:41:44.019 Sure. 00:41:44.043 --> 00:41:45.579 Just... 00:41:45.603 --> 00:41:46.803 ...sorry. 00:41:47.803 --> 00:41:48.883 Sorry. 00:41:53.563 --> 00:41:54.839 I'll call you tomorrow 00:41:54.863 --> 00:41:56.799 and maybe come around to your house to see you. 00:41:56.823 --> 00:41:57.939 Darling... 00:41:57.963 --> 00:42:00.859 ...we've both heard far worse before 00:42:00.883 --> 00:42:02.363 and we will again. 00:42:04.683 --> 00:42:06.283 Helen, 20 seconds. 00:42:13.443 --> 00:42:16.379 Hello, you've reached Dale Jennings. 00:42:16.403 --> 00:42:17.899 I can't take your call right now, 00:42:17.923 --> 00:42:20.219 but if you leave me a message with your details, 00:42:20.243 --> 00:42:21.819 I'll get back to you. 00:42:21.843 --> 00:42:23.923 Dale, it's Mum. 00:42:25.363 --> 00:42:26.723 Could you... 00:42:27.763 --> 00:42:30.523 Could you give me a ring, please, just when you... 00:42:32.203 --> 00:42:33.203 Hi, Mum. 00:42:34.923 --> 00:42:36.403 You saw the... Yeah. 00:42:37.603 --> 00:42:39.019 I had nothing to do with it. 00:42:39.043 --> 00:42:40.939 You said you'd had no contact with him. 00:42:40.963 --> 00:42:42.419 I haven't. 00:42:42.443 --> 00:42:43.819 Adam's a... 00:42:43.843 --> 00:42:45.859 I don't know. He's an activist, I guess. 00:42:45.883 --> 00:42:48.179 Someone needs to say something to the Lindells. 00:42:48.203 --> 00:42:49.739 He shouldn't be coming to your work! 00:42:49.763 --> 00:42:50.740 Don't. 00:42:50.764 --> 00:42:52.859 Does Helen know about... what he... 00:42:52.883 --> 00:42:53.860 No. 00:42:53.884 --> 00:42:57.019 Well, if she has any concerns, get her to ring me. 00:42:57.043 --> 00:42:59.339 I can tell her what kind of person Adam is, 00:42:59.363 --> 00:43:01.443 what kind of a... attacks... Mum. 00:43:03.643 --> 00:43:05.423 He's been through enough. 00:43:09.403 --> 00:43:10.883 I'll call you tomorrow. 00:43:38.923 --> 00:43:41.883 Very boring. 00:43:42.923 --> 00:43:45.539 Noels, how are you? What the hell, Noely?! 00:43:45.563 --> 00:43:47.363 Yeah, I can explain. 00:43:48.523 --> 00:43:49.979 Did you get the sack and you didn't tell us?! 00:43:50.003 --> 00:43:51.899 I had the best intentions, I promise. 00:43:51.923 --> 00:43:54.203 I just might have stuck my foot in it. 00:43:57.163 --> 00:44:00.363 I learnt a bit of French at school, but no Korean, I'm afraid. 00:44:02.723 --> 00:44:05.802 Oops. Excuse me. Sorry, everyone. 00:44:08.363 --> 00:44:11.579 Mr Kim, Mrs Kim, Jean, 00:44:11.603 --> 00:44:13.219 thank you for that tea. 00:44:13.243 --> 00:44:14.723 It was delicious. 00:44:17.803 --> 00:44:19.283 Merci. 00:44:20.763 --> 00:44:24.459 Um... actually, I'll just leave these thongs for you at the door. 00:44:24.483 --> 00:44:25.483 Thanks! 00:44:26.483 --> 00:44:27.523 Noels, Noels. 00:44:28.883 --> 00:44:30.739 I'm gathering you didn't tell your family. 00:44:30.763 --> 00:44:32.522 I'm gathering you did! 00:44:33.923 --> 00:44:36.323 Well... anyway... 00:44:37.403 --> 00:44:40.099 ...I'm hearing you can come back in on Monday. 00:44:40.123 --> 00:44:41.079 What? 00:44:41.203 --> 00:44:43.059 Yeah, well, you know bloody Lindsay. 00:44:43.083 --> 00:44:45.819 He... he blows a gasket and then a day later 00:44:45.843 --> 00:44:47.643 he's forgotten all about it. 00:44:48.643 --> 00:44:50.059 Did you say something? 00:44:50.083 --> 00:44:52.059 Well, I... I didn't say anything 00:44:52.083 --> 00:44:54.883 a halfway decent person wouldn't have said. 00:44:57.003 --> 00:44:59.203 I mean, you're the best one there, Noels. 00:45:01.003 --> 00:45:01.980 Thank you. 00:45:02.004 --> 00:45:03.563 It's alright. 00:45:08.443 --> 00:45:09.923 You'd better head back in. 00:45:12.043 --> 00:45:13.803 Do you want to grab a drink? 00:45:15.363 --> 00:45:16.363 Yeah? 00:45:17.363 --> 00:45:19.403 Yeah, I mean, are you sure? 00:45:20.563 --> 00:45:22.563 Yeah. Yeah? 00:45:26.563 --> 00:45:28.922 Nah, I feel like a dork. 00:45:35.323 --> 00:45:37.979 You saw it? Of course! 00:45:38.003 --> 00:45:41.939 Geoff, just slow down. 00:45:41.963 --> 00:45:44.539 You're breathless. I'm fine, darling. 00:45:44.563 --> 00:45:47.642 First day back was always going to push me. 00:45:49.643 --> 00:45:50.739 What did you think? 00:45:50.763 --> 00:45:53.979 Why don't you have a lie down and I'll bring your dinner... 00:45:54.003 --> 00:45:55.763 What did you think? 00:45:57.003 --> 00:45:58.579 You were incredible. 00:45:58.603 --> 00:46:00.803 Absolutely incredible. 00:46:03.003 --> 00:46:04.659 Yes. 00:46:04.683 --> 00:46:06.482 You should have seen Lindsay's face. 00:46:07.843 --> 00:46:09.699 OK, you bastard. 00:46:09.723 --> 00:46:13.219 You think a sports boy could give you that? 00:46:13.243 --> 00:46:15.523 Yeah, unlikely. Ha-ha! 00:46:29.123 --> 00:46:30.859 You watched? Yeah. 00:46:30.883 --> 00:46:32.699 *! It was a * disaster. 00:46:32.723 --> 00:46:34.619 You know, Geoff wasn't even supposed to be there. 00:46:34.643 --> 00:46:37.259 He came in specifically, and I don't even know how he heard. 00:46:37.283 --> 00:46:39.419 Could I pour myself a drink? 00:46:39.443 --> 00:46:40.979 I feel sick. 00:46:41.003 --> 00:46:43.139 Did you book them? Adam and, um... 00:46:43.163 --> 00:46:45.363 And Russell? Yeah. 00:46:46.883 --> 00:46:49.099 Yeah, I went out looking for someone who had AIDS, 00:46:49.123 --> 00:46:53.179 and then Adam came forward and told me about his partner. 00:46:53.203 --> 00:46:55.059 You said that he was a research contact. 00:46:55.083 --> 00:46:56.779 Yeah. 00:46:56.803 --> 00:46:58.959 He said that you guys went to high school together. 00:46:58.983 --> 00:47:00.583 So which is it? Or is it both? 00:47:02.443 --> 00:47:03.923 He said that? Yeah. 00:47:05.483 --> 00:47:07.379 He asked me to pass on a message. 00:47:07.403 --> 00:47:09.483 He said, "Tell him I'm sorry." 00:47:19.483 --> 00:47:23.339 Helen, it's a complicated situation between our families. 00:47:23.363 --> 00:47:25.299 I don't think... 00:47:25.323 --> 00:47:27.063 There's no need to involve you in this. 00:47:28.283 --> 00:47:29.803 Involve me in what? 00:47:33.443 --> 00:47:34.923 I don't want to talk about it. 00:47:37.203 --> 00:47:38.683 You have to tell me. 00:47:45.123 --> 00:47:46.819 I mean, nothing that you can say 00:47:46.843 --> 00:47:49.363 is worse than what I'm thinking in my head right now. 00:47:51.723 --> 00:47:54.083 He made allegations against me. 00:47:56.643 --> 00:47:58.099 What kind of allegations? 00:47:58.123 --> 00:47:59.603 When we were teenagers. 00:48:02.003 --> 00:48:04.563 He said I did things that I did not do. 00:48:08.403 --> 00:48:11.443 He said I forced myself on him. 00:48:15.643 --> 00:48:17.499 It wasn't me. 00:48:17.523 --> 00:48:19.419 It was not me. 00:48:19.443 --> 00:48:20.899 Are you talking *? 00:48:20.923 --> 00:48:23.379 We were best friends, we were teenage boys messing around. 00:48:23.403 --> 00:48:25.463 It was adolescent boy stuff. It wasn't... 00:48:28.723 --> 00:48:31.643 Has anything like this happened since you were a teenager? 00:48:36.843 --> 00:48:38.379 You know I love you. 00:48:38.403 --> 00:48:41.043 I'm... I'm in love with you. While we were together? 00:48:43.603 --> 00:48:45.363 I'm in love with you, Helen. With who? 00:48:46.483 --> 00:48:47.899 With who? 00:48:47.923 --> 00:48:49.239 With who, Dale? Tim. 00:48:49.263 --> 00:48:51.059 For a brief moment, only once, and I stopped it. 00:48:51.083 --> 00:48:52.779 As soon as it ended, I told him, Helen. 00:48:52.803 --> 00:48:54.323 I told him that I was committed to you!