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Ms Lawson said that she was diagnosed

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with borderline personality disorder.

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Bpd is a pervasive pattern

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of instability of relationships,

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image, mood.

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They're already getting suss
on me asking so many questions.

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Show some initiative.

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Make sure the right 12 people
are there when they cast the votes.

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Ripley? Zeus?

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We've gotta solve the
situation with the sitter.

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One of the school mums has
mentioned a girl called Ava.

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You know this could cause a mistrial?

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There's nothing in the jury
act about incidental contact.

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You're a lawyer.
Try and be more bureaucratic.

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Just think that the person
reading this has no heart.

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This is my family.

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It's Michael sleeman
from the real estate agency.

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It's an amazing place.

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Claire has asked the
school to find her a place

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as a full-time border in Melbourne.

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No. Not Melbourne.

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Claire can stay with me
on alternate weekends.

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Nathan deceived me throughout our marriage.

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Kate supported and protected me.

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Of course there was tension between them.

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Thank you.

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Back by 6:00 on Sunday, girls. No excuses.

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Yes, ms west.

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Hey. You alright?

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How are you?

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Where's your bag?

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Everything go alright with Kate last week?

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Yeah.

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Listen, I don't want to be that headache dad,

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right, but I've heard

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Claire's not getting back
from weekends on time,

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so that's not on. Oh, that's news to me.

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I can show you the sign-ins.

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No, this is not gonna happen again.

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Do you understand?

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You clear on that?

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Clear? Yes.

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Thank you, Fiona. I'll have
her back at 6:00pm sharp.

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Get off your phone, please. What?

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Get off your phone. Dad, no, give it.

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Listen, don't push your luck.

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You can have it back after lunch
if you make an effort with Sonia.

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Thank you.

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Zeus, quickly.

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Come.

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Here you go.

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Hello, beautiful.

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Won't be long.

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Back soon. Back soon.

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Hello. Simon, Ava's dad.

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I'm on the jury with Georgina.

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Jamie, Georgina's husband.

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Hi, I'm Ava. Nice to meet you.

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Hi, Ava.

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Ava, hi. Hi.

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Ah, the kids are just
finishing their breakfast...

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Cool, see you dad... In the living room.

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Simon, hey.

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Yeah, I was driving in today.

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I thought I'd drop her off

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and see if you wanted a lift into court.

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Oh, that's nice. Do you want
a lift in Simon's car, Georgina?

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Oh, no, that's alright.

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I've gotta do some
errands after, so I'll drive.

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Sweet as. I'll see you in there.

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Yeah, I'm leaving now too.

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Morning.

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Kids would not get out of bed this morning.

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Hey, white with none. Oh. Thank you.

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Hey, guys, Mel sent a card
to thank us for the flowers.

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Oh. Nice.

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She'll be so disappointed not to be here.

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That is so unfair.

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Oh, well, one alternate left.

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So when does your wife get here?

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Oh, she's booking her flights now.

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Are you serious? Yeah.

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Bra, that's awesome. Yeah.

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It's such a long process.

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I understand. Waited a long time.

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I'm very relieved.

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Oh shit, sorry, I gotta.

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Yeah, of course.

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Hello?

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It's Liz from the scholarship department.

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Yes, I left a message asking
about where my appeal is at.

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I'm sorry, we don't have
a decision on that yet.

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Yep, ok.

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Thanks, I'll call again.

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I reckon they're dragging it out
so I get desperate and give up.

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Don't do that.

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No way.

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I can't just bend over and
let 'em * me in the arse.

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Australian expressions are so colourful.

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Specific.

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I'll be sure to warn my wife.

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Could you please tell the court

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what your relationship
was with Claire Spears?

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We dated for a bit, a couple of years ago.

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How did you meet Claire?

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I was working part-time in a cafe.

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One day she came up to the
counter and gave me her number.

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Kicked off from there.

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How long were you dating?

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Like, six, six-and-a-half months.

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And who ended it?

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I was moving to Brisbane

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and neither of us wanted to do long distance.

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At the time Claire disappeared,
where were you living?

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With my parents.

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But I have my own place now.

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But you are still a
university student, correct?

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Yes, and I work part-time at the casino.

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So an inconsistent income, yes?

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Sure, yeah.

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After you moved to Brisbane,
did you keep in contact with Claire?

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We sent messages.

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You know, we were still,

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not as if we actually wanted to break up.

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But you were not Claire's boyfriend
after you moved to Brisbane?

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Let me see the witness statement again.

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No. Ok.

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When was the last time that
you two spoke to each other?

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The weekend before she went missing.

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And she never contacted you again?

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No.

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No, after that she was, she was gone.

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Never saw her or heard from her again.

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How...

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How did you find out that she was missing?

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Her mum called me

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and asked if Claire had been in touch.

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Did Kate Lawson ever call you?

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No, I didn't...

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..I didn't get on with her.

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Oh? Why is that?

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She was really weird
about Claire seeing guys.

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Do you know if ms Lawson

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ever told Claire to break it off with you?

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She did, yeah.

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Look, she wasn't a normal aunt.

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She was, like, she was jealous,

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as if she wanted Claire all to herself.

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Did Claire ever tell you

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that she was frightened of the accused?

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Absolutely.

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She said that Kate wanted to possess her.

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It creeped me out.

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Thank you.

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Oh, my gosh, love it.

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All ok?

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Yeah, it's great.

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Ava will be fine.

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She's a lot more responsible than she looks.

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Oh, no, I know, Simon, and the kids love her.

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The crown was trying to prove

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that his parents would have
known if Claire was staying with him.

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He's not living with his parents anymore.

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Why was she asking about his job?

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She made a real point of it.

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To imply that he couldn't afford

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to rent a place of his
own, or support anyone.

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You get huge tips working at casinos.

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Hm?

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He could definitely afford to put her up.

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After you broke up, you
stayed in touch, right?

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Yeah, we messaged.

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So it wasn't over?

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No, it was, but she kept texting me.

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What was the date of your
last contact with Claire?

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She rang me 7 September, the
weekend before she went missing.

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What'd you talk about? It
wasn't exactly a conversation.

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She drunk-dialled me.
She seemed pretty upset.

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What was she upset about?

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Just, "my family's so
* up." This and that.

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She said she was scared of ending up alone,

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or crazy, like her mum.

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Did she express any desire to run away?

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She was all over the shop.

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She just kept saying that
she wanted to get away

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from her family, she was sick of her family.

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She just wanted to get out.
What'd you say in response?

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I mean, I was out with
mates and we were broken up,

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so I said I couldn't talk.

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Did she ask you to help her?

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No, no, she just hung up on me.

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How old are you, mr skerrett?

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22.

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So you were 19 when you were dating Claire?

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Yes. And she was 14.

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Yes.

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She was 14.

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So did you think it unreasonable

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that her guardian, her protective aunt,

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would object to your dating her niece?

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I suppose not.

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No, because there was an age difference,

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wasn't there?

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She was underage.

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Did your parents know
about this relationship?

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No.

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Did they know that you
supplied her with alcohol?

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No.

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Did they know that you
supplied her with party drugs?

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Objection.

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Mr skerritt, you're not
required to answer that.

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Now when Diane Spears told
you that Claire was missing,

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did you think that she might be dead?

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No, I just thought she'd taken off again.

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Why do you say, "again?"
She'd done it before?

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She'd run away?

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A few times.

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Let's go back to that final conversation

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that you had with Claire.

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In your witness statement, you said,

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that Claire told you, "I don't
want to be here anymore."

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Is that right?

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Something like that.

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Something like that, or those exact words?

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Um, those words.

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Those exact words.

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So she was expressing suicidal thoughts?

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Ah, I wouldn't say that.

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How else would you interpret "I
don't want to be here anymore?"

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Just that she wanted to
get away, away from Sydney,

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away from her family,
not that she wanted to die.

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So why did she call you to tell you that?

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Did she want to join you in Brisbane?

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I guess that could have
been in her head, yeah.

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Now you told the crown
that you no longer live

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with your parents, is that right? Yes.

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When did you find a place of your own?

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About two years ago.

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Oh, so pretty much just
after Claire disappeared.

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Do you live on your own? Yes.

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On your casual casino income?

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Yeah. Yes.

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Do you earn enough to support a girlfriend?

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Ah, my girlfriend has her own job.

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Oh, so you have a girlfriend?

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Good for you.

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Jolly good.

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Is your girlfriend's name Claire Spears?

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I told you that I haven't
seen or heard from Claire

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since before she disappeared.

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You already told the court
how well you lied to your parents

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and to Claire's family.

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I'm not lying.

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Thank you, mr skerritt.

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No more questions, your honour.

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Hurry up. I want another tattoo.

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Not until mine's finished.

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Please?

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I'll make you walk the
plank, you keep bumping me.

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Not if make you walk it first.

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Go away. You're ruining it.

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Are you sure you still want the skull still?

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I can change it.

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She wants a butterfly. I don't.

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I like skulls.

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Yeah, 'cause she's badass.

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Ow.

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What is it?

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Alice, tell me what's
happening. Tell me what's wrong.

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What's going on?

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Hey, everything's ok.

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Tell me what's happening. Take a breath.

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Look at me, sweetie. Everything's fine.

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Where does it hurt?

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Can you tell us about your responsibility

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as house mistress?

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Ah, as a house mistress,
I'm responsible for the roster.

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We're checking that
they're in their beds at night,

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and for signing them in and out of
the boarding house on weekends.

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Who else is allowed to sign a
student out of the boarding house?

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Anyone on their guardian
list can sign them out.

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And who was on Claire's guardian list?

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Her parents, and ms Lawson.

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It's ok. You're ok, you're ok.

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Deep breath. Speak to me. What's happening?

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You're ok? You're freaking me out.

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Your sister always do this?

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What the hell?

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*. They're not answering.

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Yeah, they're probably not
allowed to have their phones on.

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Oh, I'm sorry, sweetie.
Hey, look at me, look at me.

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It's ok. You're ok, you're ok.

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Take a breath, take a breath. Come on.

00:14:34.700 --> 00:14:36.099
How often did Kate Lawson

00:14:36.100 --> 00:14:38.139
take Claire for the weekend, mrs west?

00:14:38.140 --> 00:14:41.419
It's Ms. sorry. Ms west.

00:14:41.420 --> 00:14:44.739
They alternated weekends, Kate then Nathan.

00:14:44.740 --> 00:14:47.899
And this was with the consent
of Claire's mother, Diane?

00:14:47.900 --> 00:14:51.179
It was my understanding that,
that arrangement came about

00:14:51.180 --> 00:14:53.459
because the family was having certain issues.

00:14:53.460 --> 00:14:55.379
What issues were those?

00:14:55.380 --> 00:15:00.699
Diane, ah, she struggled after the divorce.

00:15:00.700 --> 00:15:03.299
Nervous breakdown, the school was told,

00:15:03.300 --> 00:15:05.619
and she spent some time in in-patient care,

00:15:05.620 --> 00:15:09.059
and she couldn't look after Claire
and that's when Kate stepped in.

00:15:09.060 --> 00:15:13.219
Did Claire's mother,
Diane, ever call, or text,

00:15:13.220 --> 00:15:15.699
or visit the school very
often during the week?

00:15:15.700 --> 00:15:17.139
Not that I'm aware of.

00:15:17.140 --> 00:15:22.379
Did she attend school events, or
sports, concerts, speech nights?

00:15:22.380 --> 00:15:23.779
Very rarely.

00:15:23.780 --> 00:15:27.059
So did Kate Lawson attend those
school events in Diane's place?

00:15:27.060 --> 00:15:29.019
All the time.

00:15:29.020 --> 00:15:31.379
Diane told me she was
incredibly grateful to Kate

00:15:31.380 --> 00:15:32.779
for all her help.

00:15:32.780 --> 00:15:34.739
Would you say that Diane was grateful enough

00:15:34.740 --> 00:15:36.779
to do anything for her sister?

00:15:36.780 --> 00:15:38.179
Ah, probably.

00:15:38.180 --> 00:15:39.779
Would she lie under oath?

00:15:39.780 --> 00:15:43.219
Objection. I disallow the question.

00:15:43.220 --> 00:15:45.539
What did Claire's father say to you

00:15:45.540 --> 00:15:48.619
about sharing weekends with the accused?

00:15:48.620 --> 00:15:51.819
Nathan wanted Claire to stay at his place,

00:15:51.820 --> 00:15:55.379
but Claire preferred to stay with Kate.

00:15:55.380 --> 00:15:58.539
Did Kate Lawson always
bring Claire back on time?

00:15:58.540 --> 00:16:02.139
Well, on occasion,

00:16:02.140 --> 00:16:03.379
Kate would tell me

00:16:03.380 --> 00:16:06.779
she was going to let Claire
stay with her a little bit longer.

00:16:06.780 --> 00:16:08.339
How much longer?

00:16:08.340 --> 00:16:10.139
A day or two.

00:16:10.140 --> 00:16:12.619
Did you ever tell Claire's father

00:16:12.620 --> 00:16:16.739
that the accused wanted
Claire to stay a day or two longer,

00:16:16.740 --> 00:16:18.659
what, during the school week?

00:16:18.660 --> 00:16:20.660
I didn't tell Nathan, no.

00:16:22.300 --> 00:16:24.859
Were you required to? Yes.

00:16:24.860 --> 00:16:27.899
Did any other staff at the
boarding house inform him?

00:16:27.900 --> 00:16:29.299
They didn't know.

00:16:29.300 --> 00:16:32.579
When that happened, I would sign Claire in

00:16:32.580 --> 00:16:35.659
to prevent her getting any
demerits, since it wasn't her fault.

00:16:35.660 --> 00:16:38.059
So you falsified records to help the accused?

00:16:38.060 --> 00:16:39.539
It happened a few times.

00:16:39.540 --> 00:16:41.500
But you did falsify the records?

00:16:43.980 --> 00:16:45.340
Yes.

00:16:46.860 --> 00:16:50.419
Did Kate Lawson ask you to do that?

00:16:50.420 --> 00:16:52.139
Well, she didn't demand it.

00:16:52.140 --> 00:16:54.659
No, but did she expect it?

00:16:54.660 --> 00:16:57.779
Signing a boarder back in late, it's...

00:16:57.780 --> 00:16:59.379
..It's been happening for decades.

00:16:59.380 --> 00:17:02.779
Did Kate Lawson also expect
you not to tell Claire's father

00:17:02.780 --> 00:17:04.819
that Claire was staying with her?

00:17:04.820 --> 00:17:06.259
Not directly.

00:17:06.260 --> 00:17:07.979
It was just...

00:17:07.980 --> 00:17:11.819
It was just an understanding between us.

00:17:11.820 --> 00:17:13.460
What sort of an understanding?

00:17:18.500 --> 00:17:21.339
She-she just...

00:17:21.340 --> 00:17:24.179
Kate can make you do things without asking.

00:17:24.180 --> 00:17:26.379
She's charming.

00:17:26.380 --> 00:17:28.700
I mean, that's just the
sort of person Kate is.

00:17:36.020 --> 00:17:38.259
I can't believe she signed her in like that.

00:17:38.260 --> 00:17:39.459
What a scam artist.

00:17:39.460 --> 00:17:42.259
Oh, they're just naughty schoolgirls.

00:17:42.260 --> 00:17:45.579
Ava's been calling me.

00:17:45.580 --> 00:17:48.179
I probably would have run off to Brisbane

00:17:48.180 --> 00:17:49.499
if he was my ex-boyfriend too.

00:17:49.500 --> 00:17:50.859
He's a douche.

00:17:50.860 --> 00:17:52.659
Dating a 14-year-old. Come on.

00:17:52.660 --> 00:17:54.419
Yeah, but all the more reason to hide it.

00:17:54.420 --> 00:17:56.019
I've got three missed calls.

00:17:56.020 --> 00:17:58.100
I'll try calling her now.

00:17:59.780 --> 00:18:01.060
You alright?

00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:12.600
You have one message.

00:18:14.600 --> 00:18:16.600
Blake is a lying arsehole.

00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:24.959
You both need to hear this.

00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:26.479
I got this voicemail.

00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:30.280
Strangers are leaving messages
all the time now, but this...

00:18:31.840 --> 00:18:35.199
Blake is a lying arsehole.

00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:39.279
Wait. Is this someone who
knows Blake, or where Claire is?

00:18:39.280 --> 00:18:41.399
It's not someone. It's Claire.

00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:43.239
That's Claire on the message.

00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:44.639
Are you sure?

00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:47.039
That is her voice.

00:18:47.040 --> 00:18:51.159
Unfortunately, these sorts
of fake calls are common.

00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:55.719
Disturbed people phone parents
with missing or deceased children.

00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:57.239
Faking Claire's voice?

00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:00.079
Your honour, whether or not this is fake,

00:19:00.080 --> 00:19:04.319
the defence would like
confirmation one way or another.

00:19:04.320 --> 00:19:05.559
Alright.

00:19:05.560 --> 00:19:07.439
My suggestion is we adjourn for the day,

00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:10.959
give the police time to investigate
and then reassess in the morning.

00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:12.639
Well, the police have the phone number

00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:14.159
from which the offending call was made

00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:15.319
and they're confident

00:19:15.320 --> 00:19:17.399
that they can resolve
this quickly, your honour.

00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:21.639
Court will dismiss the
jury for the afternoon.

00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:23.959
Alright, hang tight.

00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:25.560
We'll get there just as soon as we can.

00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:29.159
What, what'd, what'd she say?

00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:30.719
Only that they're in er. What?

00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:32.719
They're just waiting to
find out. It's ok. It's ok.

00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:34.039
Yeah?

00:19:34.040 --> 00:19:35.799
She's called your husband.

00:19:35.800 --> 00:19:37.839
It's ok. Shit.

00:19:37.840 --> 00:19:40.120
Shit. We need to get there now.

00:19:43.800 --> 00:19:46.559
The call came from a public
pay phone in queensland.

00:19:46.560 --> 00:19:48.879
We're following up with our
colleagues in Brisbane now.

00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:51.079
Well, it's not her. It can't be.

00:19:51.080 --> 00:19:53.039
Don't you know your own daughter's voice?

00:19:53.040 --> 00:19:55.119
You're deluded, ok?

00:19:55.120 --> 00:19:56.839
This is just some sicko.

00:19:56.840 --> 00:19:58.999
You seem very convinced.

00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:00.919
Do you know something more
about your daughter's death

00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:02.359
you're not telling us, mr Spears?

00:20:02.360 --> 00:20:04.919
No, I don't.

00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:07.479
Of course I wish it was true
to hear that she's run away.

00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:08.959
I just don't believe it.

00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:11.279
Well the timing is suspicious.

00:20:11.280 --> 00:20:12.999
The day Blake takes the stand

00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:15.479
and it seems to be in
reference to his testimony.

00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:17.199
We investigated him thoroughly

00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:20.160
but we're obliged to
follow this up either way.

00:20:27.520 --> 00:20:29.479
Sweetheart, hey.

00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:30.399
Is your arm ok?

00:20:30.800 --> 00:20:32.999
My arm was on fire and I got really scared.

00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:34.760
Dad.

00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:43.839
I got the cctv from Brisbane.

00:20:43.840 --> 00:20:45.360
Ok, great. Bring it up.

00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:50.839
Yeah, yeah. Right height.

00:20:50.840 --> 00:20:53.600
Right hair colour,
although it's a bit shorter.

00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:04.279
Qit. Qit.

00:21:04.280 --> 00:21:06.399
That's the university Blake goes to.

00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:07.719
The boyfriend?

00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:09.400
Ex-boyfriend.

00:21:15.040 --> 00:21:17.919
Have we got anything of her face?

00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:20.919
No, not on this camera.

00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:24.119
Get me all the cctv within a 5k radius.

00:21:24.120 --> 00:21:25.720
We need to find out where she went.

00:21:44.760 --> 00:21:46.079
The girl you're living with.

00:21:46.080 --> 00:21:48.079
She got no washing machine?

00:21:48.080 --> 00:21:51.439
Yeah, I'm just, I'm not
paying rent, so I don't want to,

00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:53.279
I don't want to be, you know...

00:21:53.280 --> 00:21:57.759
Mum, I need to borrow some money.

00:21:57.760 --> 00:21:59.799
My next jury payment doesn't come around

00:21:59.800 --> 00:22:01.319
until a couple of days, so...

00:22:01.320 --> 00:22:04.999
Your father said if you
asked, the answer's no.

00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:06.519
They keep telling me

00:22:06.520 --> 00:22:08.479
that they're gonna sort
out my scholarship appeal,

00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:09.839
but they just keep messing me around on it.

00:22:09.840 --> 00:22:11.199
True?

00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:12.919
Then come here.

00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:14.759
Costs you nothing but your pride, son.

00:22:14.760 --> 00:22:16.799
You're so obvious, ma.

00:22:16.800 --> 00:22:20.439
Look, bub, when things
aren't working out for ya,

00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:23.399
sometimes that's the
message you've gotta listen to.

00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:26.119
Just saying, defer for a
year, come work with me,

00:22:26.120 --> 00:22:31.759
figure out what you really want
and help your mum along the way.

00:22:31.760 --> 00:22:33.839
Yeah, I don't think so.

00:22:33.840 --> 00:22:35.639
Yeah, ok.

00:22:35.640 --> 00:22:38.199
You're a grown up. It's your decision.

00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:42.679
But just because you got kicked
out of your accommodation,

00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:46.320
doesn't mean I have to
clean your unmentionables.

00:22:52.040 --> 00:22:54.079
What the hell were you thinking, Ava?

00:22:54.080 --> 00:22:57.199
You know when you take on
a big responsibility like that...

00:22:57.200 --> 00:22:59.159
I mean, other people's kids!

00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:00.919
Dad, I feel bad enough, ok?

00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:02.079
I don't need a lecture right now.

00:23:02.080 --> 00:23:03.719
What about your boyfriend being there?

00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:05.039
It wasn't Joe's fault.

00:23:05.040 --> 00:23:06.239
He's such a good guy.

00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:09.159
Yeah, well he's a guy
you're not seeing anymore.

00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:10.720
I... Right? End of story.

00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:19.999
Mate, I'm so sorry.

00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:21.559
Oh, no, no, it's... It's ok.

00:23:21.560 --> 00:23:25.519
No, no, I expect better
of her, and it was just so...

00:23:25.520 --> 00:23:27.599
You know, bloody irresponsible.

00:23:27.600 --> 00:23:30.399
Wait, no, it's not her fault.
Don't be so hard on her.

00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:32.919
I mean, who was to know
that Alice had a henna allergy?

00:23:32.920 --> 00:23:34.399
I mean...

00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:38.479
But you know, obviously we
can't have her back to babysit.

00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:40.160
No, no, of course.

00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:45.720
Yeah, thanks for being
so understanding about it.

00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:04.360
Guys, got some snacks for you.

00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:21.240
Jamie.

00:24:25.800 --> 00:24:28.719
We're not doing this now.

00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:32.680
I'm going to take the boys home
and I'll see you in the morning.

00:24:44.360 --> 00:24:46.720
Come on, guys,
get your stuff, it's time to go.

00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:53.119
Goodnight, mum.

00:24:53.120 --> 00:24:54.840
Bye boys.

00:25:17.760 --> 00:25:20.199
You know this girl?

00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:22.039
Yeah. Yeah, she's a...

00:25:22.040 --> 00:25:23.279
She's an ex of mine.

00:25:23.280 --> 00:25:24.280
She's a mate.

00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:28.719
It's not her.

00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:30.839
'Course it's not.

00:25:30.840 --> 00:25:32.679
When I heard the message, it felt familiar,

00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:35.399
so I went back over
Claire's social media feed

00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:38.759
and found the phrase in an old
video post Claire made herself,

00:25:38.760 --> 00:25:40.919
calling Blake a liar.

00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:42.319
The girl from the cctv

00:25:42.320 --> 00:25:44.559
was simply replaying the
message over the phone.

00:25:44.560 --> 00:25:46.799
Jesus.
Blake broke up with the girl.

00:25:46.800 --> 00:25:48.560
She obviously wasn't too happy about it.

00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:56.400
Jamie?

00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:02.320
She's on the couch with an iPad.

00:26:04.280 --> 00:26:06.599
What are you doing?

00:26:06.600 --> 00:26:09.559
Jay, where are you going?

00:26:09.560 --> 00:26:11.039
You are not staying in this house

00:26:11.040 --> 00:26:13.439
until I can find a way to keep
our children safe from you.

00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:14.959
Oh, no, Jamie...

00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:17.679
Come on, please. Hey, hey, hey, hey, no.

00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:20.319
I'm sorry. Hey, it all just happened so fast.

00:26:20.320 --> 00:26:21.359
Please...

00:26:21.360 --> 00:26:23.279
I've got photographs
of Alice's arm, Georgina.

00:26:23.280 --> 00:26:24.560
I can report you.

00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:28.239
Why would you report... What?

00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:29.719
I don't know what the
* is going on with you.

00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:31.159
Hey... You sort yourself out, ok?

00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:32.839
No, Jamie, stop! Just
stop! You're a liability.

00:26:32.840 --> 00:26:35.159
You just stop it. Please, no Jamie, stop.
Stop it! Stop! Please stop!

00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:36.479
*... * stop!

00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:37.879
No, stop it!

00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:39.519
Just stop it! No!

00:26:39.520 --> 00:26:40.599
Stop it! Stop it!

00:26:40.600 --> 00:26:43.279
Stop, you're being a * psycho!

00:26:43.280 --> 00:26:44.919
Stop! No!

00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:48.120
Georgina! Georgina, stop.

00:26:53.080 --> 00:26:55.640
You need to leave immediately.

00:27:21.220 --> 00:27:26.059
Ms west, you gave evidence yesterday
that Kate Lawson was charming.

00:27:26.060 --> 00:27:29.139
That she could get you
to do things without asking.

00:27:29.140 --> 00:27:31.019
Yes.

00:27:31.020 --> 00:27:32.499
Was that charm just for you,

00:27:32.500 --> 00:27:34.459
or would she also use that charm

00:27:34.460 --> 00:27:36.579
to get Claire to do things for her as well?

00:27:36.580 --> 00:27:37.859
Objection.

00:27:37.860 --> 00:27:39.579
Madam crown knows perfectly well

00:27:39.580 --> 00:27:41.539
that the witness cannot answer that question.

00:27:41.540 --> 00:27:42.899
Madam crown?

00:27:42.900 --> 00:27:45.819
I withdraw the question, your honour.

00:27:45.820 --> 00:27:47.099
You told us yesterday

00:27:47.100 --> 00:27:50.939
that Claire spent a lot
of time with the accused.

00:27:50.940 --> 00:27:52.659
Why wouldn't she? They were family.

00:27:52.660 --> 00:27:55.939
So, you trusted the accused
to take care of Claire?

00:27:55.940 --> 00:27:57.179
Of course.

00:27:57.180 --> 00:27:59.620
Would you describe Kate
Lawson as a friend of yours?

00:28:01.180 --> 00:28:04.659
Well, I've known Kate for a very long time.

00:28:04.660 --> 00:28:06.179
Oh? Did she disclose that?

00:28:06.180 --> 00:28:08.379
How long have you known Kate Lawson?

00:28:08.380 --> 00:28:10.779
Since she was 17.

00:28:10.780 --> 00:28:14.379
I've worked at the school
since my first year of undergrad

00:28:14.380 --> 00:28:16.499
and Kate was a boarder.

00:28:16.500 --> 00:28:17.859
Did you tell the police

00:28:17.860 --> 00:28:20.740
that you'd known ms Lawson
since she was a teenager?

00:28:24.740 --> 00:28:25.820
Hi, Kate.

00:28:29.100 --> 00:28:30.100
Come in.

00:28:39.420 --> 00:28:41.660
So, what do you think?

00:28:44.620 --> 00:28:46.540
It's beautiful.

00:28:49.120 --> 00:28:50.640
I didn't think it was relevant.

00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.039
Does anyone agree it's odd

00:28:57.040 --> 00:29:00.599
that she didn't tell the police
that she already knew Kate?

00:29:00.600 --> 00:29:02.879
Mm, it's suss as.

00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.359
Suss as?

00:29:04.360 --> 00:29:06.599
Suss. Like suspicious as *.

00:29:07.800 --> 00:29:09.959
I think she's in love with her.

00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:11.439
The boarding mistress.

00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.639
That's why she lied to the
cops about knowing Kate

00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:16.519
and you know, she's a frustrated *.

00:29:16.520 --> 00:29:18.519
Ok, she might be in love with her,

00:29:18.520 --> 00:29:21.239
but saying that she's lying
because she's a frustrated *

00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.519
is incredibly homophobic.

00:29:23.520 --> 00:29:24.879
Why? How is that?

00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:27.439
No, look, I'm not saying that it's wrong, ok?

00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:29.399
I'm just saying it's why she's lying...

00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:30.439
Why she's lying.

00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.119
What, because she's a tragic, broken queer?

00:29:32.120 --> 00:29:33.959
Alright, calm down mate.
We're all on the same team here.

00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:35.319
I'm not your mate.

00:29:35.320 --> 00:29:36.880
And you can get *.

00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:41.919
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,

00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:43.600
court has been adjourned for the day.

00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:04.200
Hey, are you ok?

00:30:06.800 --> 00:30:09.159
Yeah...

00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:11.479
I think I'm gonna have to tell
them that I'm quitting the jury.

00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:12.480
Why?

00:30:15.560 --> 00:30:16.639
I'm useless, garry.

00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:18.079
I can't get anything right.

00:30:18.080 --> 00:30:20.319
Georgina.

00:30:20.320 --> 00:30:21.399
Is Alice ok?

00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:23.119
Yeah. Yeah, she's going fine.

00:30:23.120 --> 00:30:25.239
Thank you.

00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:28.919
Ok, I just wanted to check how she was doing.

00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:31.080
Your husband was so good about everything.

00:30:33.040 --> 00:30:35.199
We both know that it wasn't...

00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.319
It wasn't Ava's fault.

00:30:37.320 --> 00:30:38.839
Yep.

00:30:38.840 --> 00:30:41.399
Ok, well see you guys tomorrow.

00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:43.799
Goodnight.

00:30:43.800 --> 00:30:44.800
What happened?

00:30:49.040 --> 00:30:54.760
Alice ended up
in the hospital in the er, and...

00:30:56.560 --> 00:30:58.320
Oh, it's a long story.

00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.919
Jamie's angry and he's punishing me.

00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.039
He's kicked me out of the house.

00:31:06.040 --> 00:31:08.720
Well, just because Alice got
hurt doesn't mean you're useless.

00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:12.039
I'm an unfit mother,

00:31:12.040 --> 00:31:15.440
and apparently, the only thing
I'm good at is giving blow jobs.

00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:19.439
I'm sorry. I...

00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:21.679
I really shouldn't have... Sure.

00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:25.199
Where're you staying?

00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:29.679
I'm just gonna stay in a hotel.

00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:31.959
You could do that, but why waste the money?

00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:33.599
You should've stayed at mine, you know.

00:31:33.600 --> 00:31:36.279
Gotta be back here in the
morning. It's only one night.

00:31:36.280 --> 00:31:37.999
I'll drive your car.

00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:39.200
You look like shit.

00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:53.679
So, this is the, I guess formal living room.

00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.119
9.5?

00:31:57.120 --> 00:31:59.479
You're kidding? They are
seriously undervaluing you.

00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.919
It's worth at least, I don't know, 12?

00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:04.999
Do you think it has something
to do with the double murder

00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:07.479
in the family room?

00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:08.559
I'm sorry.

00:32:08.560 --> 00:32:09.919
Sorry, we don't have to talk about it.

00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:11.359
No, I'm...

00:32:11.360 --> 00:32:12.480
I'm sorry.

00:32:16.520 --> 00:32:19.439
I knocked back an offer,

00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:21.519
although it's not really about the money.

00:32:21.520 --> 00:32:22.919
So, you don't really need to sell.

00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:25.479
Financially, no. I...

00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:28.239
I'm just feeling a bit stuck.

00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:29.480
Who's karishma?

00:32:31.080 --> 00:32:32.120
Who do you think?

00:32:34.120 --> 00:32:36.839
Karishma became Carrie, Carrie became corrie,

00:32:36.840 --> 00:32:40.159
and I just chose the path of least offence.

00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:42.239
That *s. I'm sorry.

00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:43.599
Well, if it makes you feel any better,

00:32:43.600 --> 00:32:46.280
flip's real name is filipos.

00:32:52.360 --> 00:32:53.920
Shall we look upstairs?

00:33:14.520 --> 00:33:15.839
Takeaway?

00:33:15.840 --> 00:33:18.760
Or spag bol from ten days ago?

00:33:21.360 --> 00:33:22.360
Takeaway.

00:33:25.760 --> 00:33:27.240
Yeah, takeaway's good.

00:33:29.040 --> 00:33:30.320
This is where I found them dead.

00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.520
..Remember how loud the birds were.

00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:42.400
Hoping they would cover me.

00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:58.880
And I walked through those doors...

00:33:59.460 --> 00:34:01.180
..And saw them lying here.

00:34:04.660 --> 00:34:06.860
It was so surreal, like...

00:34:09.220 --> 00:34:12.140
Like I was really * up
and I was imagining things.

00:34:15.020 --> 00:34:17.380
But it was real.

00:34:20.980 --> 00:34:22.540
And every time I looked,

00:34:26.140 --> 00:34:27.420
they were still there...

00:34:30.220 --> 00:34:34.460
..Lying in a pool of their own blood.

00:34:39.900 --> 00:34:41.660
Just totally dead.

00:34:47.620 --> 00:34:51.419
Is it that girl that you're seeing? Carla?

00:34:51.420 --> 00:34:52.740
What? No.

00:34:54.420 --> 00:34:56.739
No, she's just someone from work.

00:34:56.740 --> 00:34:58.580
Don't lie to me, Alexi. Not here.

00:35:09.900 --> 00:35:11.500
We had an illegal labourer on site.

00:35:13.780 --> 00:35:15.539
His name was luiz alves.

00:35:15.540 --> 00:35:16.540
He...

00:35:18.100 --> 00:35:19.100
He fell.

00:35:21.500 --> 00:35:22.619
Instead of calling an ambulance,

00:35:22.620 --> 00:35:24.739
me and my brother took him to a bus stop

00:35:24.740 --> 00:35:25.980
so we wouldn't get shut down.

00:35:30.980 --> 00:35:33.260
He died a few hours
later. I think we killed him.

00:35:37.860 --> 00:35:39.060
Carla's his wife.

00:35:41.100 --> 00:35:42.460
I'm sorry about your parents.

00:35:47.680 --> 00:35:51.239
Ms west, did you ever witness a fight

00:35:51.240 --> 00:35:53.319
between Claire and her father?

00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:55.559
I saw him be irritable with her.

00:35:55.560 --> 00:35:59.519
He has a bit of a short
fuse with teenage behaviour.

00:35:59.520 --> 00:36:01.799
She ran away from his place one weekend.

00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:03.959
How did you know that she'd run away?

00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:05.439
Nathan picked her up on Friday

00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.760
and Kate dropped her back on
the Sunday and that was unusual.

00:36:15.680 --> 00:36:16.680
Claire!

00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:21.039
I thought she was at Nathan's.
Oh, a slightly dramatic weekend.

00:36:21.040 --> 00:36:22.639
Nothing to worry about. Oh.

00:36:22.640 --> 00:36:23.799
I wondered.

00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:25.519
Yeah, I should have called, sorry.

00:36:25.520 --> 00:36:26.640
She's been impossible.

00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.039
She doesn't know how lucky she is,

00:36:30.040 --> 00:36:31.839
flitting around to openings and galleries

00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:33.640
with her glamorous aunt. Oh!

00:36:35.640 --> 00:36:37.679
I love that top on you, fi.

00:36:37.680 --> 00:36:38.799
Really?

00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:41.239
I wasn't sure if it was a bit busy.

00:36:41.240 --> 00:36:43.080
No, I like it. It's really sunny.

00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:47.559
Wanna be my guest at dinner?

00:36:47.560 --> 00:36:49.280
Sunday's still lasagne night.

00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:53.719
I swore off that dining hall when I was 17.

00:36:53.720 --> 00:36:54.759
I'm sorry.

00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:56.239
I'm surprised you can still stomach it.

00:37:00.080 --> 00:37:03.599
Are we still ok to do the sign-in?

00:37:03.600 --> 00:37:05.160
Thank you. Bye.

00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:09.520
Lights out.

00:37:20.560 --> 00:37:22.640
I'm guessing it's not boy trouble.

00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:27.720
No, boys my age are morons.

00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:33.120
What happened to this weekend?

00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:40.519
That weekend Nathan had announced to Claire

00:37:40.520 --> 00:37:42.759
that Sonia and he were having a baby.

00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.079
There was a big fight about it.

00:37:45.080 --> 00:37:49.479
Claire felt embarrassed and upset, not...

00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:50.839
Not happy.

00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:53.359
Did Claire tell you that Nathan
had been physically aggressive

00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:55.559
towards her during this fight?

00:37:55.560 --> 00:37:58.679
She used the words, "he lost his shit,"

00:37:58.680 --> 00:38:00.239
and I don't know how.

00:38:00.240 --> 00:38:01.959
But the fight was so extreme

00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:04.759
that she felt she had to run
away and go to her aunt's?

00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:05.799
Yes.

00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:09.519
But then she was angry at
Kate, too, when she came back.

00:38:09.520 --> 00:38:10.960
Why was she angry at Kate?

00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.119
I...

00:38:15.120 --> 00:38:18.159
I don't know why I said that.

00:38:18.160 --> 00:38:21.519
Is it possible that she
was angry with her aunt

00:38:21.520 --> 00:38:26.759
because she wouldn't take her
side against her father and his wife?

00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:28.999
Claire was upset with her whole family.

00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:31.800
But why ms Lawson specifically?

00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:40.760
I'll remind you you're under oath, ms west.

00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:52.759
Claire was upset because
she'd found something out.

00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:54.239
A secret.

00:38:54.240 --> 00:38:55.879
A secret?

00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:56.880
The pregnancy?

00:38:58.960 --> 00:38:59.960
Claire...

00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:04.200
Claire told me her father
was having an affair.

00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:11.320
Who was he having an affair with?

00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:14.000
Kate.

00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:57.000
It's true.

00:39:58.720 --> 00:40:01.079
A long time ago.

00:40:01.080 --> 00:40:04.040
When Nathan and Diane were still married.

00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:10.119
And a few times since.

00:40:10.120 --> 00:40:11.879
Kate, this is... Why didn't you tell us?

00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:13.720
I couldn't tell you.

00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:18.519
I couldn't do that to Diane.

00:40:18.520 --> 00:40:19.679
Where is she?

00:40:19.680 --> 00:40:22.319
Please, I need to see her. You
know what this means for us?

00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.199
The crown are going to have
to recall Nathan as a witness.

00:40:25.200 --> 00:40:28.279
Nathan? Nathan's not
going to admit to anything.

00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:30.000
Sonia doesn't even know.

00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:33.320
Is Diane ok?

00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:38.439
What happens now, in there?

00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:40.279
I don't imagine the jury will look on you

00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:42.839
having an affair with your
sister's husband favourably.

00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.239
*.

00:40:45.240 --> 00:40:50.839
You need to find a way
for me to see my sister.

00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:51.840
Please!

00:40:54.080 --> 00:40:56.879
I couldn't tell her anything.

00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:58.519
It would destroy her completely.

00:40:58.520 --> 00:40:59.799
Well, she knows now.

00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:02.879
If you'd been straight with
us, if you'd been honest with us,

00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:04.839
we could have come out of the gate with this

00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:06.400
and spun it in your favour.

00:41:08.520 --> 00:41:09.839
How did Claire find out about this?

00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:11.440
Nathan told her!

00:41:13.080 --> 00:41:15.639
Claire, she saw something, I don't know what,

00:41:15.640 --> 00:41:19.039
and that night that Nathan
dragged her into the car,

00:41:19.040 --> 00:41:20.880
she confronted him about it and...

00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:23.879
..He confessed.

00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:25.000
He's an idiot.

00:41:26.600 --> 00:41:29.199
She threatened to tell Sonia.

00:41:29.200 --> 00:41:31.359
Kate, you need to get this.

00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:35.040
That could have been
motive for Nathan to kill Claire.

00:41:37.720 --> 00:41:38.920
Claire ran away.

00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:53.759
Today in the
Claire Spears' murder trial,

00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:56.800
a secret affair between
Kate Lawson and Nathan...

00:42:02.040 --> 00:42:04.400
Look, it's not true.

00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:10.639
She has no reason to lie.

00:42:10.640 --> 00:42:11.799
I don't...

00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:13.799
I don't know why she would
say something like that.

00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.399
I... I don't know.

00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:19.159
But it's not true, ok?

00:42:19.160 --> 00:42:20.200
It's...

00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:14.599
Nathan.

00:43:14.600 --> 00:43:15.600
What?

00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:21.479
Give it here.