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Six days until Christmas.

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We're gonna do
a lot of activities.

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What's your favorite one?

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- Gingerbread house.
- We're doing that!

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- Christmas movie marathon.
- Movie marathon, awesome!

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- Ugly sweaters.
- Ugly Christmas sweaters!

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It's going to be amazing,

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but most important thing,

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we're going to do it all together.

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We were in the
second half of 2017,

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and we were in the trailer,

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the Marvel trailer,

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and Endgame was filming,

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and we started talking about
what the Hawkeye story could be.

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We haven't gotten a chance

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to really tell the
Clint Barton story,

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tell Hawkeye's story.

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Endgame is when you really see
that emotional journey

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that he started
going through with his family,

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by losing his
family in the Blip,

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and getting them back,

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but in between that time, becoming Ronin.

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So, we started sort of breaking the story,

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brainstorming ideas,

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and I remember
sitting in that trailer

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as we were still shooting Endgame, going,

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"God, there's so much

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great source material
from the comics,

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"and how am I gonna actually

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put this all in two hours?"

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We thought, "Well,

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if there's a lot
more story to tell,

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"why not just move that project

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over to the Disney Plus side?"

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Then you say, "Kate, come on!"

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You fire the arrow, then you run to join,

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and you go, "Jump!"

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The show's got everything
that we could want.

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So, we've been able to flex,

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you know, our different muscles,

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but just on another scale that,

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you know, we hoped we'd get to one day

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and, kind of, here we are.

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- So that's been, it's been exciting. Yeah.
- It's fun crashing cars into each other.

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So good.

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- Almost like, it comes...
- As it comes, and I look...

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- As it lands, I go in. Okay.
- You look, and... Yeah, exactly.

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I've found him compelling,

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the way Jeremy's played him.

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There's a sense of this ordinary guy

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that is just driven kind of by

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this sense of duty
more than anything.

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He's not... Doesn't have the protection
of superpowers,

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and I found it interesting
that you get to join him,

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and you see him in this place
where, on the surface,

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he's found the peace
that possibly he's always wanted,

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but you know that
there's been this price that's been paid.

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When you watch Avengers: Endgame,

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obviously, the stakes couldn't be bigger.

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This purple guy's gonna
snap half the universe away,

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and we gotta travel
through time to stop him.

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But it's because you saw
this human being's family disappear

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at the beginning,

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and you can imagine,
empathize with him.

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That carries
you throughout that entire movie.

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Let me go.

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No.

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No!

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And it's amazing
what happens when you've let,

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you know, actors like Jeremy Renner

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really have the space to explore

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their character
and their backstory.

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I love you guys.

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- Love you, too.
- Love you, too, Dad.

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- Love you...
- It's gonna be the best Christmas!

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It's been a wonderful way to kind of just

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really dig in and
discover a lot more

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of the humanity of
who Clint Barton is.

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Okay, Kate, what am I selling?

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It's obviously not, you know,

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Halloween costumes
and toys and t-shirts, right?

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Inspiration.

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That's where patience
really kind of pans out.

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'Cause Thor was just
a quick little cameo thing,

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and to get in the
first Avengers,

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and then, "Hey, guess what?"

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You're not Hawkeye,

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'cause he's become Loki's,

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you know, sidekick.

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You have heart.

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Like, I'm still trying
to figure this guy out.

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If I put an arrow
through Loki's eye socket,

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I would sleep better, I suppose.

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But then, in Ultron,

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when they cemented
the family life,

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I think that was a huge thing

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just for the original
six Avengers.

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It just became, like,

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"What are we
doing this all for?"

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And grounding
it to, like, what is,

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you know, the real
value, and values.

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That was a great leap for the character.

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You know I totally support your avenging.

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I couldn't be prouder.

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But I see those guys...

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Those gods...

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You don't think they need me.

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I think they do, which is a lot scarier.

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It started to really cement for me,

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and I had to sort of redefine

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in my head what a superhero is,

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and what a superpower really is,

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and that's where
the connectivity

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of every human,
every fan, or whatever,

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can come through
someone like Clint Barton.

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Wow.

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Under different circumstances...

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this would be totally awesome.

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Really, he knows
this character inside out.

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So, I think it's very important
to Jeremy to make sure that

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what we're establishing,

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what we're continuing

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to tell about this character is true.

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And Jeremy is very much

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into the truth
about the character.

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So, he puts in
the extra effort to make sure that,

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"You know what, this does make sense."

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The lines that he's
saying is correct

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and true to how Clint
Barton would react.

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You know, at the end of the day,

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my job is to hurt people.

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- You were a hero.
- I was a weapon.

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I remember
having a Zoom call and, like,

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"Guys, I think in the first
two weeks of shooting this

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"I've said more than I've said
the entire MCU universe thus far."

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All right, so this rescue mission,
it's got a part two?

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Yeah. What do I look like?

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- Are you Tabatha?
- Yes, that's me.

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That's not an Uber Pool? For God's sakes!

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Just to find his voice
and find timing and rhythm

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and just all that sort of stuff,

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they were all discoveries

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I was making throughout the show.

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And a lot of those come from

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ad-libbing and just allowing us

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as artists to be able to channel

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these characters through us
and really try to find it.

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I'm sorry.
I got so excited that he was saying,

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"It was you," I got wrapped up in it.

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- Hey.
- Yeah, it is.

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Clint Barton
from the Ultimate Comics,

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that was the version
that was shown

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in the previous Avengers movies.

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You know,
the more serious action superhero.

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But what I found more interesting

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that I wanted to explore
more in this particular series

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is the Matt Fraction
version of Clint Barton,

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you know,
who is a little bit of the reckless,

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you know, loner, but so funny and quirky.

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I thought, who
else better to draw

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that out of him but Kate Bishop?

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She is just a young,
early 20-year-old girl

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who really aspired to be a superhero

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because she saw
when she was eight years old,

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and in the series,
what Clint Barton could do as Hawkeye

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when he did that backward flip in Avengers

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and saved her
and everybody else in New York.

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I think that really inspired her to go,

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"You know what? I can be like him.

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"I just have to work hard,

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and I have to push myself."

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Are you okay? By the way?

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I'm good. Yeah! No, I'm fine.

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You should see the other guys.

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Kate, you know, is someone

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who grew up with
this figure in her life

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as a role model,
you know, unbeknownst to him.

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And watching her, you know,

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meet him and
prove herself to him,

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it's a perspective
on the Avengers that I think

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is closer for the audience
in terms of, like,

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"What would it be like to be there

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"and what's the aftermath

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of going through
that experience?"

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Come on!

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You're Hawkeye!

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And who the hell are you?

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I think in the back of

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Kevin's mind, he
had Hailee as Kate.

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We actually just said, "Let's meet Hailee,

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"let's just have a conversation
with her and see how that goes."

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And I remember, after the conversation,

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Kevin just offered her
the role right then and there.

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So that was pretty remarkable

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that we came out
of that meeting shaking her hand

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and going, "Okay, you're in.

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You're gonna play Kate Bishop."

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I didn't know much
about Kate Bishop

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other than fans
were very excited

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about her story
being brought to life.

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And from there, I just dove right in.

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And it's always so fun to play a character

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that has all of this
pre-existing information

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and a fanbase nonetheless.

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So, I was very excited
to meet with the team

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and hear what they were thinking

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as far as who this character was

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and what elements
from the comics

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they were going to portray.

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She's, you know, a young woman

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growing up in New York City,

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and she's got a lot of wit.

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I built the suit myself

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when I was trapped
in a cave once

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so, I had a lot of time
on my hands, and I just felt...

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That's very good.

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She's so funny, she's so grounded,

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so there's no point
at which she's playing

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for the comedy or the gags,

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and it's a really
challenging role to kind

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of get right because
of Kate's eagerness,

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and also because of her privilege,

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she could tip into being
the annoying whippersnapper.

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But she just holds it
because there's this

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endearing quality
that I think we,

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as women trying to
get by in the world,

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recognize in ourselves,

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so she really has this wonderful vibrancy.

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Hey, look, it's you.

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No, it's not, that's Katniss. Let's go.

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I do love her.

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Cut!

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It's been so fun
doing this thing with Jeremy.

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I remember sitting down with him

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for the first time
over this project

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and just really getting right into it,

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and right away,
I felt this sense of comfort,

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knowing that this is a world

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he has been in for ten years.

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What are you doing here?

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We're too exposed.

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Come on. Take cover.

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I kinda took the
role of shepherding

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her into, like,
how Marvel works,

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and how, with all the stunts,

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and then this and that,

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and the chaos of schedules,

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and then there's
a lot going on...

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She just fell into trust with me

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because I was looking
after her in those ways.

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- Yeah, I leave the car, then you fire...
- Okay.

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- ...then we meet.
- Okay.

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When you have that,

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then true art can then exist

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'cause you have trust with one another.

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You're imparting wisdom. Love this part.

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- Please, tell me which part.
- You know, come on.

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The part where the old cop

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comes back for one last job,

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and then imparts
wisdom on his young,

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surprisingly capable partner.

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Yeah, I'm not imparting anything on you.

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He was very wonderful
in showing me the ropes

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and, you know, collaborating with me

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in finding this amazing dynamic
between Clint and Kate.

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He's thrown into
this energetic environment,

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he's thrown up against
this energetic character in Kate,

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and so to constantly bring
that guy up against just too much energy

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and a situation
that's out of his control...

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That was fun.

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This is the part
where you finish

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my sentence with a plan.

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Planning's not really my thing.

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Are you sure that's dry erase?

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I remember, even the initial pitch
they were telling me about is,

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like, it's six days till Christmas,
and I'm with the kids,

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and everything kind of goes south.

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We originally had Clint with his family
back at his home in Iowa

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as the opening of introducing
Clint in the Hawkeye series.

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We then shifted
the story of his introduction

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to being in New York instead.

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Jesus, really?

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Merry Christmas, pal.

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Being able to start production
in New York was really a blessing.

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It's so unique, and it's so special,

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and the energy
there can't be replicated, really.

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You go to New York

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and you know you're in New York.

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You go into the city,
and you know you're there.

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And you go in during
Christmas-time,

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and it's really
unlike anything else.

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Getting as much
of the real texture

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and the real flavor of New York

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and feeling these different
neighborhoods was wonderful.

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To get the scale
and those vistas,

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and the streets, and the dirt,

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and the colors, and the people,

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and the energy of New York

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was important 'cause it's another
character in this show.

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You know what is right up
the street, you guys?

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- The biggest...
- Burger King!

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The biggest Christmas tree ever,

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at the Rockefeller Center.

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How about we go see that, huh?

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Clint is sort of
always trying to retire.

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I don't think you can ever retire
as a superhero.

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I think you live or die.

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It's one of those things.

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But he's just in New
York with his family,

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he's not thinking
about anything else

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besides getting back home.

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He actually is in New York

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for a very specific reason,

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and that's because he's been invited to
Rogers, The Musical,

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and all of the
Avengers got invited,

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but no one showed
up except for Clint.

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It was something that
I think all of us had joked about

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and probably even slightly performed
on set, you know,

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with all of our props and whatnot,

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'cause everybody is musical
in some sort of way in the Avengers.

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But to have it come together
and actually see it.

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It's pretty spectacular.

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I was really impressed,

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- this is a lot of production.
- It was special.  It was special.

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All right,
we're gonna set it for the top again.

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When I came on, there was mention
of a Rogers, the Musical in the script.

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It was like a little
layer that was there, and immediately

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I was like, "Well, why...

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Like, you have to
see the musical.

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"We're gonna mention it.

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Let's do the musical."

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Kevin absolutely loves the idea
so much that

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he wanted us to actually create

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an entire song of four
and a half minutes.

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So, we got Marc Shaiman to write

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the song for us,
which is incredible.

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I can't believe we got
to work with Marc Shaiman.

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The first time I met Kevin Feige...

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I was at an Academy
Award function,

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the year of Mary
Poppins Returns,

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and someone came over to me
from Disney and said,

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"Kevin Feige would
really like to meet you."

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And I thought, "This is a prank."

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'Cause my husband, Lou,

00:13:47.525 --> 00:13:50.287
is the biggest
Marvel nerd on Earth.

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I thought, "Did Lou call someone
and set them up to..."

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But anyway, there
was Kevin Feige,

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so I went over to him,

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and he was like, all film score
nerding out on me.

00:14:01.423 --> 00:14:03.221
I was like, "But
you're Kevin Feige,

00:14:03.245 --> 00:14:05.302
and if only my
husband, Lou, was here."

00:14:05.970 --> 00:14:09.014
And then, this phone call came
about writing a song

00:14:09.098 --> 00:14:11.714
for a Marvel television
show, once again,

00:14:11.738 --> 00:14:14.353
I thought, "Lou has
put them up to this."

00:14:14.436 --> 00:14:16.745
So, Kevin says,
"I would really like

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there to be a full
Broadway musical number

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"of an Avengers musical."

00:14:21.861 --> 00:14:24.190
So, luckily, all the
years I had gone

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to see all the movies with Lou,

00:14:26.365 --> 00:14:28.367
and then sat in the car afterwards,

00:14:28.450 --> 00:14:31.078
and he would explain to me what
I had just seen,

00:14:31.161 --> 00:14:34.290
and he explained to me
all the Easter eggs and all the history,

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so I actually knew words like "Chitauri"
and "Tesseract."

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I mean, I never thought I'd be

00:14:41.118 --> 00:14:43.507
writing lyrics with
rhyming Tesseract.

00:14:43.591 --> 00:14:44.891
Six, seven, and...

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I've got to get the Tesseract 
 The battle's just begun

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We'll conquer the Chitauri 
 Get shawarma when we're done

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We came into this whole thing,

00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:54.685
and it was kind
of already built,

00:14:54.768 --> 00:14:56.604
and they plugged Ty and I right in.

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We immediately started
learning choreography,

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and by, like, the second day,

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we kind of learned
the whole number.

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I was surprised at
how similar it is to

00:15:04.495 --> 00:15:06.447
what I actually do for a living

00:15:06.530 --> 00:15:07.432
when I go do a show on Broadway.

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It's completely different for me

00:15:09.045 --> 00:15:10.904
because I haven't
done a Broadway show

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in about 30 years, 25 years,

00:15:12.557 --> 00:15:14.047
and I was thinking that

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it was gonna be easy.

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I thought that we were gonna come in,

00:15:17.979 --> 00:15:19.545
and it was gonna be, you know,

00:15:19.569 --> 00:15:21.399
a musical that
felt like a TV show,

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and that you weren't going to have
to do much choreography,

00:15:24.152 --> 00:15:26.863
and I wasn't gonna be sweating
for eight hours in a rehearsal,

00:15:26.947 --> 00:15:30.283
and as it turns out,
we're doing a real musical here.

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We cast
everybody here locally in Atlanta,

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and because we're dealing with, you know,

00:15:39.172 --> 00:15:41.007
the COVID pandemic,
we couldn't do

00:15:41.031 --> 00:15:43.426
what we would normally
do, which would be,

00:15:43.552 --> 00:15:45.595
you know, a big giant cattle call,

00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.646
and then the hard
part was finding

00:15:48.670 --> 00:15:52.269
the people who could
play the Avengers.

00:15:52.727 --> 00:15:55.647
Officially Tony Stark. I'm shook.

00:15:55.730 --> 00:15:57.190
I'm like, "What? Who's that?"

00:15:57.274 --> 00:15:59.317
Never did I think I'd be on a stage...

00:15:59.401 --> 00:16:01.903
acting as Hawkeye, being Hawkeye,
and, you know,

00:16:02.028 --> 00:16:03.852
shootin' arrows,
killing bad guys while,

00:16:03.876 --> 00:16:05.323
you know, singing and dancing.

00:16:05.448 --> 00:16:08.243
A lot of the dancers have
these special skills where

00:16:09.941 --> 00:16:12.527
Maya Shimoguchi, our production designer,

00:16:12.611 --> 00:16:18.533
did an incredible,
incredible job at creating the set.

00:16:18.617 --> 00:16:21.787
The bridge is something
that we really built as a bridge.

00:16:21.912 --> 00:16:23.872
It has a span of 45 feet.

00:16:23.955 --> 00:16:26.375
As you can see, most of it is cutouts.

00:16:26.708 --> 00:16:29.419
It was hard because there was
nowhere where we could build it

00:16:29.544 --> 00:16:31.461
and see the whole
thing together until

00:16:31.485 --> 00:16:33.715
we'd actually installed
it at the theater.

00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:37.302
So, all the pieces were built separately
in different buildings,

00:16:38.261 --> 00:16:39.836
so actually seeing
it together was

00:16:39.860 --> 00:16:41.723
a huge relief that
it actually worked.

00:16:41.848 --> 00:16:44.184
Let's go again and we'll do
the boulder thing, right?

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And playback.

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Hulk, you know the magic word is

00:16:47.646 --> 00:16:49.365
Hulk, you know the magic word is

00:16:49.389 --> 00:16:51.108
Hulk, you know the magic word is

00:16:51.191 --> 00:16:56.113
Smash. Smash. Smash

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Save the city, help us win

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I just remember going into
the pre-film day,

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and just watching it all live,

00:17:05.701 --> 00:17:07.374
in front of me, and going,

00:17:07.624 --> 00:17:09.489
"I can't believe
we're doing this,

00:17:09.513 --> 00:17:11.378
but this is pretty,
pretty amazing."

00:17:11.503 --> 00:17:13.577
It's a bummer 'cause
Kevin really wanted

00:17:13.601 --> 00:17:15.674
to be there and he
didn't get a chance to,

00:17:16.652 --> 00:17:19.738
Now, you may recall a masked vigilante

00:17:19.905 --> 00:17:23.200
who terrorized organized crime
in this city for years.

00:17:23.367 --> 00:17:26.536
He brought a brutal form of justice
to his victims,

00:17:26.620 --> 00:17:31.249
and his identity continues to remain
a mystery to this very day.

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A lot of the story and backstory
in this show is

00:17:35.003 --> 00:17:38.590
about what happened when Clint
turned to Ronin, is a vigilante,

00:17:38.674 --> 00:17:41.218
and all that's kinda coming back
to haunt him

00:17:41.343 --> 00:17:43.053
in a way, and he has to own up to it.

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Just because
she's not the Ronin,

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doesn't mean he's not back.

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It's just a rumor.

00:17:47.683 --> 00:17:49.334
We can now deepen
the story 'cause

00:17:49.358 --> 00:17:51.311
what have we seen
of Ronin? Not a lot.

00:17:55.065 --> 00:17:57.859
I mean, there's a lot of value to it
'cause people love Ronin,

00:17:57.943 --> 00:17:59.975
and but always
saw him as this...

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Slay this guy, and
then the yakuza,

00:18:02.155 --> 00:18:03.455
you don't know much.

00:18:03.740 --> 00:18:05.492
Kate Bishop puts herself

00:18:05.575 --> 00:18:07.995
in a situation
where she puts on his Ronin suit

00:18:08.245 --> 00:18:10.899
that she finds at the auction,

00:18:10.923 --> 00:18:14.376
and that creates a
big problem for him.

00:18:14.793 --> 00:18:16.407
You know, in Clint's mind,

00:18:16.431 --> 00:18:18.296
he wants to protect this girl,

00:18:18.422 --> 00:18:20.011
he wants to make sure that suit

00:18:20.035 --> 00:18:21.883
isn't gonna endanger
her in any way.

00:18:21.967 --> 00:18:24.219
But it does force them to be together.

00:18:24.302 --> 00:18:25.602
Look what you did.

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For me, it was an
interesting way in

00:18:27.356 --> 00:18:28.807
of just the notion that Clint

00:18:28.890 --> 00:18:31.393
is possibly living with this insecurity
of, like,

00:18:31.560 --> 00:18:34.271
is his true self really the Ronin
or is it Hawkeye?

00:18:34.354 --> 00:18:36.403
'Cause Hawkeye
is the guy they make

00:18:36.427 --> 00:18:38.900
a musical about,
and that Kate idolizes,

00:18:39.067 --> 00:18:41.873
and is this hero that
she wants to brand,

00:18:41.897 --> 00:18:44.281
but he knows he's
also the Ronin.

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I'm sorry, Kate.

00:18:45.438 --> 00:18:47.242
I'm not a role model to anyone.

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Never have been.

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What? Yes, you are.

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You are. You came here.

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You left your
family at Christmas

00:19:01.173 --> 00:19:02.778
because you
thought some stranger

00:19:02.802 --> 00:19:03.800
was gonna get hurt.

00:19:04.426 --> 00:19:07.179
You stuck around even though I *ed up.

00:19:07.721 --> 00:19:09.021
And now you're stuck.

00:19:10.515 --> 00:19:11.892
Whether you like it or not,

00:19:13.393 --> 00:19:15.729
the Tracksuits have connected us
both to Ronin,

00:19:15.854 --> 00:19:18.565
and it's pretty clear they're not
just gonna drop this.

00:19:20.484 --> 00:19:23.500
We lean into Matt
Fraction's comics,

00:19:23.524 --> 00:19:25.155
so it's much more,

00:19:25.447 --> 00:19:27.254
kind of more
grounded stunt action

00:19:27.278 --> 00:19:28.533
and even the villains.

00:19:28.658 --> 00:19:29.936
Like the Tracksuit Mafia,

00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:31.495
these very dangerous buffoons.

00:19:31.745 --> 00:19:33.163
Wakey-wakey, bro.

00:19:33.830 --> 00:19:35.916
They are fun. They're fun characters,

00:19:36.041 --> 00:19:37.406
but there also needs to be

00:19:37.430 --> 00:19:38.794
a level of danger to them,

00:19:39.044 --> 00:19:41.419
an unpredictability,
which I think is

00:19:41.443 --> 00:19:44.216
where Fra Fee's
character comes in, Kazi.

00:19:44.341 --> 00:19:46.218
There is a real quiet intensity to Kazi

00:19:47.511 --> 00:19:49.522
that I've been
figuring out whilst

00:19:49.546 --> 00:19:51.556
I'm here and
exploring his journey.

00:19:51.723 --> 00:19:53.165
I have done a lot of theater

00:19:53.189 --> 00:19:54.476
and I love doing theater.

00:19:54.851 --> 00:19:57.238
But, you know,
telling the truth,

00:19:57.262 --> 00:19:59.648
no matter how
big or small it is,

00:19:59.731 --> 00:20:01.031
it's all the same thing.

00:20:01.149 --> 00:20:03.264
So, whenever you
know and you trust

00:20:03.288 --> 00:20:05.403
that your camera
operator is here,

00:20:05.529 --> 00:20:08.020
then you have
license to just be really,

00:20:08.044 --> 00:20:10.534
really small, and
that's a real thrill.

00:20:19.376 --> 00:20:22.504
With Fra, his intensity,
and his quiet intensity,

00:20:22.629 --> 00:20:23.578
but you can feel it.

00:20:23.602 --> 00:20:25.465
There's a resonance
in his performance,

00:20:25.549 --> 00:20:28.144
which helps us because
the less he does,

00:20:28.168 --> 00:20:30.762
the more we do, the
more powerful he is.

00:20:31.847 --> 00:20:35.392
Maybe I haven't been clear.
I prefer not to kill you,

00:20:35.517 --> 00:20:37.102
but I'm warming up to the idea.

00:20:37.352 --> 00:20:40.147
He's desperately wanted to work
his way up the ranks,

00:20:40.230 --> 00:20:43.650
but been unable to do so
because of Maya's position.

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You are.

00:20:58.248 --> 00:20:59.973
The character we're most excited

00:20:59.997 --> 00:21:02.210
about introducing and
developing is Echo,

00:21:02.586 --> 00:21:04.216
you know, is Maya, and she's

00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:06.339
an amazing character
to have set up,

00:21:06.464 --> 00:21:09.176
and with the new actress, like Alaqua is,

00:21:09.259 --> 00:21:11.344
and to see her kind of finding her feet,

00:21:11.678 --> 00:21:13.889
I mean, that's been such a gift for us.

00:21:14.347 --> 00:21:16.933
We were nervous
about casting somebody

00:21:17.017 --> 00:21:19.269
who hasn't been
in front of the cameras before

00:21:19.477 --> 00:21:22.772
but Alaqua really showed through
her audition tapes

00:21:22.981 --> 00:21:25.358
how much she wanted to work for this role.

00:21:26.401 --> 00:21:30.238
I remember a friend of mine
sent me the link

00:21:30.322 --> 00:21:33.116
for a casting call
for a Native deaf person.

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And I said no.

00:21:34.451 --> 00:21:36.953
And then two other friends of mine
sent it to me.

00:21:37.037 --> 00:21:39.289
And so I decided to go ahead and apply.

00:21:39.372 --> 00:21:42.542
And they emailed me back when I enquired.

00:21:42.626 --> 00:21:44.002
And they kept emailing me.

00:21:44.085 --> 00:21:46.087
And I'm like,
"Wow, this is getting serious."

00:21:46.171 --> 00:21:47.964
And so, then they actually...

00:21:48.048 --> 00:21:50.592
I was cast three months later
and I'm just in this process.

00:21:50.675 --> 00:21:52.677
So I didn't ever dream
of becoming an actor,

00:21:52.761 --> 00:21:54.596
but this is an amazing opportunity.

00:21:54.679 --> 00:21:57.641
You and I, we're the same.

00:22:03.271 --> 00:22:04.571
We're weapons.

00:22:06.691 --> 00:22:08.782
She's amazing. It's
a different experience

00:22:08.806 --> 00:22:10.487
working with someone who's deaf,

00:22:10.779 --> 00:22:12.832
'cause it's a lot of
different things that

00:22:12.856 --> 00:22:14.658
have to go on for
her to understand

00:22:14.991 --> 00:22:16.018
and never acting before,

00:22:16.042 --> 00:22:17.285
is a little tricky, you know?

00:22:17.410 --> 00:22:19.281
I think she knocks
it out of the park.

00:22:19.305 --> 00:22:20.413
It's a physical role.

00:22:21.289 --> 00:22:22.803
Well, my fighting style,

00:22:22.827 --> 00:22:25.168
mostly I do a lot
of, like, elbowing.

00:22:25.293 --> 00:22:27.295
I do elbow strikes and hits.

00:22:27.420 --> 00:22:28.677
I was planning on punching,

00:22:28.701 --> 00:22:30.382
but they wanted to
protect my hands,

00:22:30.465 --> 00:22:31.959
so they switched
it to elbow work,

00:22:31.983 --> 00:22:33.385
because I sign to communicate,

00:22:33.468 --> 00:22:34.398
and they wanted to

00:22:34.422 --> 00:22:36.137
make sure that
was taken care of.

00:22:36.221 --> 00:22:40.141
But my fighting style was more of
an MMA style and karate,

00:22:40.600 --> 00:22:42.618
kind of some badass
moves. But mostly

00:22:42.642 --> 00:22:44.604
my stunt double
does a lot of that

00:22:44.688 --> 00:22:47.023
because she does a lot of
the kicks and I can't...

00:22:47.107 --> 00:22:49.063
There's certain
angles that I can't move

00:22:49.087 --> 00:22:50.235
my prosthetic leg, so,

00:22:50.318 --> 00:22:52.362
my stunt double did
an amazing job with that.

00:22:54.239 --> 00:22:55.031
She's a natural.

00:22:55.055 --> 00:22:56.449
I think she's gonna do well.

00:22:56.533 --> 00:22:57.993
I love the turn of her character.

00:23:01.830 --> 00:23:03.498
What are you talking about?

00:23:12.424 --> 00:23:14.080
At the beginning of the process,

00:23:14.104 --> 00:23:15.760
I started learning
sign language,

00:23:15.844 --> 00:23:19.556
initially just to help me communicate
with Alaqua on set.

00:23:19.639 --> 00:23:22.267
The good thing is that we
did have time to rehearse.

00:23:22.350 --> 00:23:24.978
That's not a normal thing in any film set.

00:23:25.103 --> 00:23:27.939
But the way that the scheduling
worked out,

00:23:28.023 --> 00:23:31.776
I had quite a lot of time to rehearse
the signing, thankfully.

00:23:31.860 --> 00:23:34.070
Otherwise that would
have been nerve-racking.

00:23:34.696 --> 00:23:36.114
I wanted to talk

00:23:39.409 --> 00:23:42.787
There is something interesting about

00:23:42.912 --> 00:23:45.665
acting without much voice.

00:23:45.915 --> 00:23:49.711
For the little intimate moments
with Maya, you know,

00:23:50.253 --> 00:23:51.755
at most I'm just whispering.

00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:53.922
It's so quiet. It's
an amazing thing.

00:23:53.946 --> 00:23:55.759
And all you hear is the breeze,

00:23:56.217 --> 00:23:58.682
or, you know, the cars outside.

00:23:58.706 --> 00:24:01.890
It's a really incredible
way to perform.

00:24:02.057 --> 00:24:05.048
I think we're reading
off each other.

00:24:05.072 --> 00:24:08.063
I'm being brought
into her quiet world.

00:24:09.189 --> 00:24:10.860
She asked what
you're doing here,

00:24:10.884 --> 00:24:11.608
Clint Barton.

00:24:14.569 --> 00:24:16.404
- Riding a unicorn.
- Learning about trust.

00:24:17.072 --> 00:24:19.949
You know, I think what Marvel's
done really so excellently,

00:24:20.033 --> 00:24:21.676
or in the last, whatever,

00:24:21.700 --> 00:24:23.078
12 years or so, is...

00:24:23.244 --> 00:24:24.913
when it's serious, it's serious,

00:24:25.038 --> 00:24:26.528
but then when you get loose,

00:24:26.552 --> 00:24:28.041
it can make fun of itself.

00:24:28.124 --> 00:24:30.157
They're really great
at, like, poking fun

00:24:30.181 --> 00:24:31.753
at themselves. Meaning Marvel,

00:24:31.836 --> 00:24:32.703
there's characters

00:24:32.727 --> 00:24:34.130
who go into eye of the storm,

00:24:34.214 --> 00:24:36.037
hit it and talk about
the pink elephant

00:24:36.061 --> 00:24:37.884
in the room. Like,
"Dude, bro, love it."

00:24:38.009 --> 00:24:39.719
Like Tracksuit's a great example.

00:24:41.554 --> 00:24:43.723
Guys, come on! Drop down!

00:24:43.807 --> 00:24:46.068
Come on, bro! Get
at 'em! Put 'em out!

00:24:46.092 --> 00:24:48.353
You're like fried
chicken, bro! Get up!

00:24:48.937 --> 00:24:50.667
We would see the comic book,

00:24:50.691 --> 00:24:52.857
the Tracksuit
Mafia and it's, like,

00:24:52.941 --> 00:24:54.723
"bro" this and "bro"
that, and we were

00:24:54.747 --> 00:24:56.528
talking, "Man, we
need to up our 'bros.'

00:24:56.611 --> 00:24:58.238
"We have not been saying enough 'bros.'"

00:24:58.321 --> 00:25:00.050
So, we've been broing it out,

00:25:00.074 --> 00:25:02.283
and it's honestly
an honor to take on

00:25:02.450 --> 00:25:03.827
some villains people have been

00:25:03.910 --> 00:25:05.829
hoping to see in the Marvel Universe.

00:25:05.912 --> 00:25:08.248
- We're having far too much fun posing.
- Yeah.

00:25:08.540 --> 00:25:11.364
I had big expectations
when I got

00:25:11.388 --> 00:25:14.212
the first text from
costumes that,

00:25:14.421 --> 00:25:16.807
"Send your sizes,
'cause we are having

00:25:16.831 --> 00:25:19.217
a very exceptional
costume for you."

00:25:19.592 --> 00:25:21.284
You know, speaking about Marvel,

00:25:21.308 --> 00:25:22.095
you think that,

00:25:22.303 --> 00:25:24.182
"Oh, my God, we'll
play the heroes,

00:25:24.206 --> 00:25:25.807
you know, like superheroes."

00:25:25.890 --> 00:25:28.059
- Form-fitted. Muscular fit.
- Feels awesome.

00:25:28.143 --> 00:25:30.145
But it was a joke from the costume guy.

00:25:30.228 --> 00:25:32.281
Because he had to
do this kind of special

00:25:32.305 --> 00:25:34.357
costume thousands
of thousands of times.

00:25:34.441 --> 00:25:36.618
But I gotta tell you
for me, for instance,

00:25:36.642 --> 00:25:38.445
we're all wearing
the tracksuits,

00:25:38.528 --> 00:25:40.528
I think it's great.
But I gotta show you

00:25:40.552 --> 00:25:42.449
my alligator shoes.
Look at these...

00:25:43.408 --> 00:25:45.577
- Are you kidding me?
- That means he's the boss.

00:25:45.660 --> 00:25:46.960
That's the boss!

00:25:48.121 --> 00:25:49.789
There was discussion of,

00:25:49.873 --> 00:25:52.250
"Is it gonna look silly if they all wear
the same tracksuit?

00:25:52.375 --> 00:25:53.918
"Where do they get them?"

00:25:54.043 --> 00:25:55.046
So we did variations

00:25:55.070 --> 00:25:57.088
where they were
all in different things.

00:25:57.172 --> 00:25:59.283
They were just in
regular street clothes,

00:25:59.307 --> 00:26:01.259
or in different
kinds of tracksuits,

00:26:01.426 --> 00:26:02.349
different colors,

00:26:02.373 --> 00:26:04.012
different sportswear elements.

00:26:04.596 --> 00:26:07.128
And decided in
the end, that didn't

00:26:07.152 --> 00:26:09.684
make them feel
like a collective,

00:26:09.934 --> 00:26:11.336
and we really wanted them

00:26:11.360 --> 00:26:12.479
to feel like a gang.

00:26:13.396 --> 00:26:15.129
So we thought
that the easiest way

00:26:15.153 --> 00:26:17.150
to outfit the number
and the quantity

00:26:17.233 --> 00:26:19.121
that we needed with
stunts and everything

00:26:19.145 --> 00:26:20.653
was to build them from scratch.

00:26:21.196 --> 00:26:22.496
Bros.

00:26:25.450 --> 00:26:26.772
At times they are scary,

00:26:26.796 --> 00:26:28.786
and they are a
threat to our heroes,

00:26:28.870 --> 00:26:31.206
and I think a part
of that is shown

00:26:31.230 --> 00:26:33.082
in the KB Toys scene where

00:26:33.166 --> 00:26:35.251
both Clint and Kate are captured.

00:26:35.543 --> 00:26:38.338
Maya Shimoguchi in the art department is

00:26:38.713 --> 00:26:40.808
amazing at capturing and putting

00:26:40.832 --> 00:26:42.926
everything into reality for us

00:26:43.051 --> 00:26:45.220
to really help elevate the series.

00:26:45.345 --> 00:26:46.804
Nice place you got here.

00:26:47.555 --> 00:26:48.723
It's not creepy at all.

00:26:48.848 --> 00:26:50.469
The level of detail,

00:26:50.493 --> 00:26:52.685
the level of quirk/realism,

00:26:52.769 --> 00:26:54.968
so there's like this creativity

00:26:54.992 --> 00:26:57.190
that isn't quite
reality, but then

00:26:57.273 --> 00:26:58.863
there's nothing
you don't believe

00:26:58.887 --> 00:27:00.026
about any of her sets.

00:27:00.109 --> 00:27:01.386
Even in, like, KB Toys,

00:27:01.410 --> 00:27:03.696
where there's this
small office upstairs.

00:27:03.780 --> 00:27:06.074
I went in there one day
and I just sat down at the desk

00:27:06.199 --> 00:27:08.201
and I started looking
at the papers on the desk,

00:27:08.326 --> 00:27:11.287
and each one of them had been
individually handwritten

00:27:11.412 --> 00:27:13.382
with information that related

00:27:13.406 --> 00:27:15.375
to what the gang was doing.

00:27:15.500 --> 00:27:19.254
It was, like, the level that
she has gone to is unbelievable,

00:27:19.337 --> 00:27:22.215
and what it means is that
it makes it real for the actors.

00:27:25.093 --> 00:27:26.135
Heidi Moneymaker,

00:27:26.159 --> 00:27:27.512
the stunt coordinator,

00:27:27.595 --> 00:27:29.222
did a really amazing

00:27:29.347 --> 00:27:30.948
stunt vis of the whole fight.

00:27:30.972 --> 00:27:33.184
We would do sort of
preliminary designs,

00:27:33.434 --> 00:27:36.604
and then show her
the models or the drawings.

00:27:36.771 --> 00:27:38.485
And sometimes
she would ask, like,

00:27:38.509 --> 00:27:40.066
"Can we change this or that?"

00:27:41.067 --> 00:27:43.160
I mean, I found it
really fun, actually,

00:27:43.184 --> 00:27:44.737
to think about the fighting,

00:27:44.821 --> 00:27:47.407
'cause when designing the sets
and we're thinking about it,

00:27:47.490 --> 00:27:50.159
we don't really know what the fighting is
actually gonna be,

00:27:50.243 --> 00:27:52.336
you're just tryin' to
create opportunities

00:27:52.360 --> 00:27:54.247
for people to move
through the space

00:27:54.330 --> 00:27:57.292
or places where some things
could happen

00:27:57.375 --> 00:27:59.670
and what they would
come up with was

00:27:59.694 --> 00:28:01.462
always surprising and fun.

00:28:03.381 --> 00:28:05.478
This actually was
a bit of a challenge

00:28:05.502 --> 00:28:06.801
just in the sense that

00:28:06.884 --> 00:28:08.916
we had so many
characters and I wanted

00:28:08.940 --> 00:28:10.972
them to have their
own flair and style.

00:28:11.097 --> 00:28:12.414
Starting with Hawkeye,

00:28:12.438 --> 00:28:14.601
he has a somewhat
established style,

00:28:14.726 --> 00:28:17.222
but because he's coming into

00:28:17.246 --> 00:28:20.189
this show as a
retired superhero,

00:28:20.356 --> 00:28:22.451
living with his family,
has hearing loss,

00:28:22.475 --> 00:28:24.569
is wearing a hearing
aid, his back hurts.

00:28:24.694 --> 00:28:26.522
He's kind of the John Wick of

00:28:26.546 --> 00:28:29.073
the Marvel series,
minus all the murder.

00:28:34.078 --> 00:28:35.163
I was doing fine.

00:28:35.330 --> 00:28:36.757
Clint's back to being Clint,

00:28:36.781 --> 00:28:38.207
and out of the Ronin life,

00:28:38.374 --> 00:28:40.573
and kind of healing
from the effects of,

00:28:40.597 --> 00:28:42.795
you know, the Blip,
and then coming back,

00:28:43.046 --> 00:28:45.153
and the families are
back, and wanted to

00:28:45.177 --> 00:28:47.175
be back on track
with his moral code

00:28:47.258 --> 00:28:48.461
and what he needs to do,

00:28:48.485 --> 00:28:50.094
and that becomes very defensive.

00:28:50.553 --> 00:28:51.706
Everything's non-lethal

00:28:51.730 --> 00:28:53.389
and you don't
wanna hurt anybody.

00:28:57.894 --> 00:28:59.632
A plunger arrow?
What is the trick?

00:28:59.656 --> 00:29:01.189
That it's completely useless?

00:29:01.272 --> 00:29:03.900
We haven't really worked
in the action genre before,

00:29:03.983 --> 00:29:06.611
and then to see how capable
he is physically...

00:29:06.694 --> 00:29:10.156
We did the bridge scene, was one of
the first action sequences,

00:29:10.281 --> 00:29:12.033
and to watch that man sprint,

00:29:12.158 --> 00:29:13.719
things that you
don't think about,

00:29:13.743 --> 00:29:14.494
that kind of...

00:29:14.577 --> 00:29:17.413
The muscle memory and the technique
involved in,

00:29:17.497 --> 00:29:21.334
you know, left-handed arrow
and then grabbing another...

00:29:21.584 --> 00:29:23.158
I'm doing it wrong. But just

00:29:23.182 --> 00:29:25.380
everything's like
so on point with him.

00:29:25.463 --> 00:29:26.710
And then just picking up

00:29:26.734 --> 00:29:28.925
fight choreography
on the spot with Heidi.

00:29:29.008 --> 00:29:30.924
This is when you realize that

00:29:30.948 --> 00:29:33.596
he's a level up.
He's got all the tools.

00:29:37.558 --> 00:29:40.937
I remember talking to my creative team.

00:29:41.020 --> 00:29:43.606
I'm like, "I don't know
if I wanna be in tights when I'm 50.

00:29:43.690 --> 00:29:46.776
"I don't think anybody wants to see me
in tights when I'm 50."

00:29:46.859 --> 00:29:48.989
You know what? it's all right,

00:29:49.013 --> 00:29:51.572
it's doing okay.
I'm happy about it.

00:29:54.534 --> 00:29:56.884
Just as we were super
impressed by, like,

00:29:56.908 --> 00:29:59.080
you realize how
many Avengers movies

00:29:59.205 --> 00:30:00.915
and how much action Jeremy's done.

00:30:00.998 --> 00:30:02.605
Hailee came into
this, and I know

00:30:02.629 --> 00:30:04.085
she's done Bumblebee before,

00:30:04.168 --> 00:30:06.179
she's done a
little bit of action,

00:30:06.203 --> 00:30:08.214
but physically she's incredible.

00:30:08.965 --> 00:30:10.717
Before I came out to shoot,

00:30:10.842 --> 00:30:12.077
I was training in LA on

00:30:12.101 --> 00:30:14.095
the stunt side of
things with my dad,

00:30:14.178 --> 00:30:15.638
who's a personal trainer.

00:30:16.013 --> 00:30:17.524
The best in the game,

00:30:17.548 --> 00:30:19.058
if I do say so myself.

00:30:19.267 --> 00:30:21.382
And we spent
months in all sorts of

00:30:21.406 --> 00:30:23.271
different styles of fighting,

00:30:23.354 --> 00:30:25.073
hand-to-hand
combat. And once I had

00:30:25.097 --> 00:30:26.357
my first archery lesson,

00:30:26.441 --> 00:30:29.110
we started getting into exercises
and circuits of training

00:30:29.193 --> 00:30:31.362
that would help me with my muscles.
Let me tell you,

00:30:31.446 --> 00:30:33.134
you are sore in
places you never knew

00:30:33.158 --> 00:30:34.657
you could be sore the next day.

00:30:34.741 --> 00:30:37.493
"Eenie, meenie, miny..." and then...

00:30:37.660 --> 00:30:39.370
- Down the line.
- "Moe," and then breathe?

00:30:39.495 --> 00:30:41.174
We had her doing
things that you would

00:30:41.198 --> 00:30:42.832
buy that a trained
female could do.

00:30:42.915 --> 00:30:44.474
So there's no big
swinging punches

00:30:44.498 --> 00:30:46.294
and things a guy
would do with a guy.

00:30:46.377 --> 00:30:48.379
They're very feminine, but still strong.

00:30:48.463 --> 00:30:50.798
We have her doing a little Judo,
but mostly Aikido.

00:30:50.882 --> 00:30:54.135
Also using her brain and using
found objects and being able to

00:30:54.218 --> 00:30:55.636
think and be really quick-witted.

00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:57.305
She evolves through the series.

00:30:57.430 --> 00:30:59.170
She's sort of thrown
into the deep end

00:30:59.194 --> 00:31:00.933
and for the first time
faces these guys,

00:31:01.017 --> 00:31:03.519
you know, with guns
and that really wanna hurt her.

00:31:03.603 --> 00:31:05.031
She's probably only fought

00:31:05.055 --> 00:31:07.148
in competitions
and things with rules,

00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:09.868
and so to kinda
lean in and see her,

00:31:09.892 --> 00:31:12.111
how she's just seizing objects.

00:31:12.236 --> 00:31:14.655
We looked at a lot of Jackie Chan
stuff to just

00:31:15.072 --> 00:31:16.696
find that rhythm of spontaneity

00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:17.658
and improvisation.

00:31:21.120 --> 00:31:22.205
We need a car.

00:31:22.288 --> 00:31:23.742
Can we take this one?

00:31:23.766 --> 00:31:25.708
Man, this thing's beautiful.

00:31:26.042 --> 00:31:27.919
The car chase
is after the big fight.

00:31:28.002 --> 00:31:29.992
I'm not smashing
a '72 Challenger.

00:31:30.016 --> 00:31:30.671
Come on.

00:31:30.797 --> 00:31:32.641
Tracksuits are chasing us down,

00:31:32.665 --> 00:31:34.509
and we're severely outnumbered.

00:31:37.011 --> 00:31:40.556
And I was roaming through
the streets of "New York."

00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:41.849
Atlanta for New York.

00:31:41.933 --> 00:31:44.352
They had this rig that they put the car on

00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:46.488
where a stunt
driver can get on top

00:31:46.512 --> 00:31:48.481
and drive us
through the streets.

00:31:48.606 --> 00:31:49.732
It's an amazing thing.

00:31:49.816 --> 00:31:51.442
Got incoming. Come on.

00:32:00.243 --> 00:32:02.775
Basically a drivable
platform that we can

00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:05.331
put the picture car
on, put the actors in,

00:32:05.414 --> 00:32:07.800
and get them
really in the middle

00:32:07.824 --> 00:32:09.460
of the action safely,

00:32:09.794 --> 00:32:11.972
and duplicate all the physics

00:32:11.996 --> 00:32:14.173
you would see in a car chase.

00:32:14.465 --> 00:32:16.342
- How many?
- Four.

00:32:17.885 --> 00:32:19.313
The actors could do their part,

00:32:19.337 --> 00:32:19.929
their acting.

00:32:20.054 --> 00:32:21.639
I do my part, I'm driving.

00:32:21.722 --> 00:32:23.412
And we can run
'em through traffic,

00:32:23.436 --> 00:32:24.725
we can slide it, spin it,

00:32:24.809 --> 00:32:27.508
do all these wild stunty things

00:32:27.532 --> 00:32:30.231
and it feels real,
because it is.

00:32:30.314 --> 00:32:34.277
We wanted to do that
amazing 360 shot of the car coming around.

00:32:34.402 --> 00:32:37.697
The idea there was to do it in
a continuous motion

00:32:37.780 --> 00:32:39.714
having our actors in the car

00:32:39.738 --> 00:32:41.951
and be able to spin them around.

00:32:42.034 --> 00:32:43.598
And make it feel
like they're moving

00:32:43.622 --> 00:32:44.871
and the background's moving

00:32:44.954 --> 00:32:46.789
without it being
a visual effects background.

00:32:46.873 --> 00:32:48.457
Hawkeye's got a new ride.

00:32:48.541 --> 00:32:50.459
- How fast you been goin'?
- What's that?

00:32:50.543 --> 00:32:52.211
How fast you been goin' in there?

00:32:52.295 --> 00:32:53.585
I don't know, like,

00:32:53.609 --> 00:32:55.172
the last three takes...

00:32:55.298 --> 00:32:56.340
Hundred.

00:32:56.507 --> 00:32:57.924
That's... I don't know,

00:32:57.948 --> 00:32:59.552
I'd say probably maybe 50.

00:33:00.553 --> 00:33:03.890
Fifty by the time we hit the 180.

00:33:04.390 --> 00:33:06.108
The last three takes for sure,

00:33:06.132 --> 00:33:07.101
we were cruising.

00:33:07.310 --> 00:33:08.455
It's like this is what's

00:33:08.479 --> 00:33:10.396
gonna be the Hawkeye
ride at Disneyland.

00:33:10.479 --> 00:33:12.498
It's like, "No
way." It really feels

00:33:12.522 --> 00:33:14.483
like you're a
part of, and in it.

00:33:14.567 --> 00:33:16.696
And both of us,
Hailee and I, we're like,

00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:18.154
our jaws were on the floor

00:33:18.237 --> 00:33:20.072
'cause you never get to experience that.

00:33:20.156 --> 00:33:22.283
We're used to driving 25 miles an hour

00:33:22.408 --> 00:33:23.938
and just pretending
to drive fast,

00:33:23.962 --> 00:33:25.119
or whatever it might be.

00:33:25.202 --> 00:33:26.689
But we were living in it like

00:33:26.713 --> 00:33:28.873
it was a roller coaster
ride or something.

00:33:28.998 --> 00:33:29.689
We're going...

00:33:29.713 --> 00:33:31.459
We're hauling *
down this thing.

00:33:31.584 --> 00:33:32.884
"Let's do another take."

00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:34.260
How was it?

00:33:34.337 --> 00:33:35.884
That was the funnest
thing I've done.

00:33:35.908 --> 00:33:36.589
in a long time.

00:33:42.428 --> 00:33:43.728
Forehand!

00:33:43.846 --> 00:33:45.146
Big jump!

00:33:45.806 --> 00:33:47.773
When we were
in the writers' room

00:33:47.797 --> 00:33:49.393
and we were talking about

00:33:49.477 --> 00:33:52.239
how do we integrate
our heroes into

00:33:52.263 --> 00:33:55.024
a world with
supporting characters

00:33:55.107 --> 00:33:56.727
that really can
help elevate them

00:33:56.751 --> 00:33:58.778
and bring them the
help that they need?

00:33:58.861 --> 00:34:00.886
And much like the ex-cons

00:34:00.910 --> 00:34:04.075
are to Scott Lang
in the Ant-Man world,

00:34:04.158 --> 00:34:07.450
we wanted to have
a group that can bring

00:34:07.474 --> 00:34:09.664
a fun tone to the series.

00:34:11.457 --> 00:34:13.322
There this whole crew of

00:34:13.346 --> 00:34:16.462
live-action role
players called LARPers.

00:34:16.545 --> 00:34:18.631
It's like cosplay and that stuff.

00:34:18.714 --> 00:34:20.412
They're very into this world,

00:34:20.436 --> 00:34:22.134
and they make their costumes.

00:34:22.551 --> 00:34:23.851
Take my chances.

00:34:26.847 --> 00:34:28.879
We're filming here
in Atlanta, but it's

00:34:28.903 --> 00:34:30.935
supposed to be Central
Park in New York.

00:34:31.060 --> 00:34:33.982
What we're setting
up here is the start

00:34:34.006 --> 00:34:36.774
of Clint's sort of
LARPing journey.

00:34:37.233 --> 00:34:39.944
I'm a Viking. I'm really a Viking.

00:34:40.069 --> 00:34:41.709
Basically, I got the suit.

00:34:41.733 --> 00:34:44.073
He thinks I stole
it, but I found it.

00:34:44.573 --> 00:34:47.326
And we all know finders-keepers
is the rule.

00:34:47.410 --> 00:34:48.710
Let me kill you.

00:34:48.953 --> 00:34:49.954
What?

00:34:50.162 --> 00:34:51.848
It's make-believe
anyway. Just let me

00:34:51.872 --> 00:34:53.416
kill you in single person combat

00:34:53.499 --> 00:34:55.001
and then I'll give you the suit.

00:34:56.377 --> 00:34:57.677
No.

00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.381
Come on, man. You're a hero in real life.

00:35:00.715 --> 00:35:03.009
This is as close as I'll ever
get to be to being one.

00:35:03.259 --> 00:35:04.644
We set up this duel

00:35:04.668 --> 00:35:07.304
and everybody's
circling around them

00:35:07.388 --> 00:35:11.100
as they do this big, fun mock-LARP battle,

00:35:11.183 --> 00:35:12.306
and somebody wins,

00:35:12.330 --> 00:35:14.020
and somebody gets the suit.

00:35:14.353 --> 00:35:15.813
Proceed!

00:35:20.818 --> 00:35:23.362
You * your stomach in
and your posture gets right.

00:35:23.446 --> 00:35:25.443
I don't know
what's in the back of

00:35:25.467 --> 00:35:27.950
this thing but I feel
two inches taller.

00:35:28.075 --> 00:35:30.028
You kind of pose
different, I've been

00:35:30.052 --> 00:35:31.787
putting a lot of hands on hips,

00:35:32.121 --> 00:35:35.624
you know, just like stoic
brooding poses and stuff.

00:35:35.708 --> 00:35:37.555
It's a suit from the
Marvel universe,

00:35:37.579 --> 00:35:38.961
it's got a lot of history,

00:35:39.754 --> 00:35:41.689
it's got a lot of stuff going on

00:35:41.713 --> 00:35:43.466
with the suit in this series.

00:35:43.841 --> 00:35:48.095
Also it's usually a pretty serious suit.

00:35:48.179 --> 00:35:49.891
If somebody's got this suit on,

00:35:49.915 --> 00:35:52.016
it's usually not
good for the bad guy.

00:35:52.683 --> 00:35:55.138
So, to have it and
do something fun

00:35:55.162 --> 00:35:57.980
and silly with the
LARPers is awesome.

00:35:58.230 --> 00:35:59.774
My view is tremendous, by the way.

00:36:02.693 --> 00:36:04.657
We, on several occasions today,

00:36:04.681 --> 00:36:07.156
have said, "Can't
believe they pay us."

00:36:07.281 --> 00:36:09.647
Like, it is the silliest I think

00:36:09.671 --> 00:36:12.036
I've ever been in
a good 20 years,

00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:14.038
and I'm not that old.

00:36:15.790 --> 00:36:17.792
Pardon me, right behind you. Jesus!

00:36:21.962 --> 00:36:23.342
Pizza Dog is a must

00:36:23.366 --> 00:36:24.965
for the series because

00:36:25.091 --> 00:36:27.463
Pizza Dog is a
very, very big part of

00:36:27.487 --> 00:36:29.595
the Clint and Kate Bishop world

00:36:29.678 --> 00:36:30.978
in the Matt Fraction run.

00:36:31.097 --> 00:36:33.114
We've never
worked with, at least

00:36:33.138 --> 00:36:35.726
I've never worked
with an animal before.

00:36:35.851 --> 00:36:38.207
But we wanted to make
sure that Pizza Dog

00:36:38.231 --> 00:36:40.231
was gonna come
off the right way.

00:36:40.856 --> 00:36:43.776
Hey, bud. Look, it's you. It's you.

00:36:44.110 --> 00:36:45.410
This is Jolt.

00:36:46.195 --> 00:36:49.176
She is a three-year-old
Golden Retriever,

00:36:49.200 --> 00:36:51.283
and she just loves to work.

00:36:51.450 --> 00:36:52.750
Good girl.

00:36:52.785 --> 00:36:55.444
Jolt is the most gorgeous,

00:36:55.468 --> 00:36:56.997
humorous doggy,

00:36:57.123 --> 00:36:58.216
who just wants cuddles

00:36:58.240 --> 00:36:59.333
and love all the time,

00:36:59.458 --> 00:37:02.053
and I've never seen a dog smile

00:37:02.077 --> 00:37:04.672
so broadly. On cue. Just like...

00:37:05.714 --> 00:37:07.066
We love working with animals,

00:37:07.090 --> 00:37:08.300
though they say not do it,

00:37:08.384 --> 00:37:09.885
but we seem to always do it.

00:37:10.344 --> 00:37:12.346
But Pizza Dog has been an absolute joy.

00:37:12.805 --> 00:37:14.181
Hi.

00:37:14.682 --> 00:37:16.964
Before we started
filming, Hailee gave her

00:37:16.988 --> 00:37:19.270
a bunch of cookies
and just loved on her,

00:37:19.395 --> 00:37:20.600
and every time they meet

00:37:20.624 --> 00:37:21.981
she's really good with her,

00:37:22.064 --> 00:37:23.716
and she comes
and she greets her.

00:37:23.740 --> 00:37:25.651
I think they've
become good friends.

00:37:32.449 --> 00:37:33.298
In the comics,

00:37:33.322 --> 00:37:34.785
Derek Bishop, Kate's dad

00:37:34.869 --> 00:37:36.871
is actually the villain,

00:37:36.996 --> 00:37:38.532
and what we found
interesting was,

00:37:38.556 --> 00:37:39.999
what if we actually, you know,

00:37:40.082 --> 00:37:41.989
turn it the other way
around and make

00:37:42.013 --> 00:37:43.919
Eleanor Bishop the
villain of the show,

00:37:44.044 --> 00:37:45.228
and really explore

00:37:45.252 --> 00:37:47.631
the mother and
daughter relationship

00:37:47.715 --> 00:37:49.592
that we haven't quite seen in the MCU.

00:37:49.675 --> 00:37:52.136
Kate, it's sweet that you're worried,

00:37:53.053 --> 00:37:54.336
but just remember I'm the mom,

00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:55.514
it's my job to protect you.

00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:57.183
I am not a little kid anymore.

00:37:57.266 --> 00:37:58.566
You're not a superhero either.

00:37:58.642 --> 00:38:00.483
It's hard work
raising a successful

00:38:00.507 --> 00:38:02.730
daughter, especially
when have different

00:38:03.397 --> 00:38:05.858
definitions of what that success means.

00:38:05.983 --> 00:38:08.194
I have given you space
to have this crisis,

00:38:08.277 --> 00:38:10.026
but if I don't step
in, you're gonna

00:38:10.050 --> 00:38:11.447
look back in 10 or 20 years

00:38:11.530 --> 00:38:13.449
and you'll wonder
why I didn't take the wheel

00:38:13.574 --> 00:38:15.201
when you were swerving over the road.

00:38:15.284 --> 00:38:17.312
They're confident,
they're capable,

00:38:17.336 --> 00:38:18.704
they're strong-willed,

00:38:18.787 --> 00:38:19.805
they're opinionated,

00:38:19.829 --> 00:38:21.207
but they're very different.

00:38:21.290 --> 00:38:22.488
You wanna tell me when

00:38:22.512 --> 00:38:23.876
you got into swords, Mom?

00:38:24.668 --> 00:38:26.575
Hon, there have
been a few changes

00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:28.505
while you were
away this semester.

00:38:28.714 --> 00:38:31.842
Ta-da! Oh.

00:38:31.926 --> 00:38:33.427
What an unexpected surprise.

00:38:33.552 --> 00:38:35.120
I think Jack coming into

00:38:35.144 --> 00:38:37.765
this role and wanting
to serve this role

00:38:37.848 --> 00:38:39.934
as stepfather figure,

00:38:40.351 --> 00:38:42.507
he's walking into an
emotional minefield

00:38:42.531 --> 00:38:43.687
with these two gals.

00:38:43.812 --> 00:38:45.938
I think a common interest

00:38:45.962 --> 00:38:48.943
is very fertile
ground for bonding.

00:38:51.111 --> 00:38:53.906
Bonding. That's exactly
what I was thinking.

00:38:53.989 --> 00:38:57.201
We really wanted to bring
in Jack Duquesne,

00:38:57.284 --> 00:38:59.703
who in the comics is supposed
to be Swordsman,

00:38:59.787 --> 00:39:03.123
and Swordsman in the comics
is Clint Barton's mentor.

00:39:03.207 --> 00:39:05.627
He taught Clint
how to do archery

00:39:05.651 --> 00:39:08.754
and really is also
a villain at the end.

00:39:08.837 --> 00:39:11.085
We wanted to
explore that character,

00:39:11.109 --> 00:39:12.841
bring him into the series,

00:39:12.967 --> 00:39:15.678
but wanted a different twist to it.

00:39:15.886 --> 00:39:18.018
My brother got me
all these comic books

00:39:18.042 --> 00:39:19.723
about The Swordsman that were

00:39:19.807 --> 00:39:22.101
printed all these years back.

00:39:22.184 --> 00:39:24.358
So I just kinda,
you know, got into it,

00:39:24.382 --> 00:39:25.980
see what this guy was like,

00:39:26.063 --> 00:39:28.679
and it was sort of
this swashbuckler

00:39:28.703 --> 00:39:31.318
kind of Errol Flynn
type of character.

00:39:31.485 --> 00:39:33.621
So I tried to
kind of instill that

00:39:33.645 --> 00:39:35.781
a little bit into the character,

00:39:35.864 --> 00:39:38.370
this sort of debonair,
kind of very classy

00:39:38.394 --> 00:39:40.286
sort of kind of guy, you know?

00:39:40.786 --> 00:39:42.538
You know what they say...

00:39:43.163 --> 00:39:44.147
Life is short.

00:39:44.171 --> 00:39:46.792
You never know
what you're gonna get.

00:39:50.629 --> 00:39:51.630
What?

00:39:51.755 --> 00:39:52.914
With Jack's character,

00:39:52.938 --> 00:39:54.842
we wanted him to
be the red herring,

00:39:54.967 --> 00:39:57.820
we wanted people
to really question

00:39:57.844 --> 00:39:59.096
whether or not

00:39:59.221 --> 00:40:03.017
he is acting as sort of like a buffoon,

00:40:03.142 --> 00:40:05.413
I guess, in a way,
this entire time,

00:40:05.437 --> 00:40:07.187
or is he really faking it?

00:40:07.313 --> 00:40:08.731
Careful, honey.

00:40:09.398 --> 00:40:10.482
When am I not careful?

00:40:10.566 --> 00:40:12.568
Always. You were always not careful.

00:40:14.403 --> 00:40:15.446
I was talking to Jack.

00:40:15.696 --> 00:40:16.852
When I got the part,

00:40:16.876 --> 00:40:18.115
I'd taken fencing,

00:40:18.741 --> 00:40:20.993
and we went at it for weeks.

00:40:21.076 --> 00:40:22.815
I hired a professional fencer,

00:40:22.339 --> 00:40:24.413
oddly enough, back in the day.

00:40:24.538 --> 00:40:27.207
I took a couple of semesters
back in college,

00:40:27.333 --> 00:40:29.260
so I knew what I was
doing. But I needed

00:40:29.284 --> 00:40:31.211
to refresh it. It has
been a long time.

00:40:31.337 --> 00:40:33.130
What are you hiding, Jack?

00:40:35.090 --> 00:40:36.390
Nothing.

00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:38.969
I'm an open book. Right, darling?

00:40:39.053 --> 00:40:40.970
Kate does this one little

00:40:40.994 --> 00:40:43.682
smart move on
him that he deflects.

00:40:43.766 --> 00:40:45.895
And we wanted to
leave his character

00:40:45.919 --> 00:40:47.436
at the end as a mystery.

00:40:47.561 --> 00:40:49.854
And that will actually
allow a lot more

00:40:49.878 --> 00:40:51.565
opportunities down the line

00:40:51.648 --> 00:40:53.984
if we want to explore Swordsman
in the MCU.

00:40:55.110 --> 00:40:56.780
It's kind of like, you know,

00:40:56.804 --> 00:40:58.113
building a brick wall.

00:40:58.197 --> 00:41:00.088
I mean, you got to
lay one brick, put some

00:41:00.112 --> 00:41:01.492
mortar down and then another,

00:41:01.575 --> 00:41:04.161
then it defines kind of what it is
as it goes along.

00:41:04.244 --> 00:41:06.747
And with each thing
that has been layered in,

00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:08.374
we get to use that.

00:41:12.795 --> 00:41:15.923
We can talk about
all these things that can happen that make

00:41:16.006 --> 00:41:17.466
this Hawkeye show even exist.

00:41:19.176 --> 00:41:20.677
And because of
this Hawkeye show,

00:41:20.701 --> 00:41:22.721
Florence comes from
the Black Widow movie,

00:41:22.846 --> 00:41:24.506
and all these things
start to happen in

00:41:24.530 --> 00:41:26.058
a weave like Kevin
has always done

00:41:26.141 --> 00:41:27.559
all in the MCU all along.

00:41:27.810 --> 00:41:31.146
What we really wanted to bring
into this series is

00:41:31.230 --> 00:41:35.025
the connective tissue
that Clint has with Yelena.

00:41:35.192 --> 00:41:37.945
We went to Kevin, and we had asked
if they can do a tag

00:41:38.070 --> 00:41:40.310
in the Black Widow
project to see if that

00:41:40.334 --> 00:41:42.574
can be connected into
the Hawkeye series,

00:41:42.699 --> 00:41:45.460
and the tag actually
has Yelena going to

00:41:45.484 --> 00:41:47.037
Natasha's grave site,

00:41:47.162 --> 00:41:49.642
and Julia
Louis-Dreyfus' character,

00:41:49.666 --> 00:41:52.000
Valentina, comes up next to her

00:41:52.126 --> 00:41:54.128
to show her her next assignment.

00:41:54.253 --> 00:41:56.681
Maybe you'd like
a shot at the man

00:41:56.705 --> 00:41:59.133
responsible for
your sister's death.

00:42:00.092 --> 00:42:01.802
Kind of a cutie. Don't you think?

00:42:02.469 --> 00:42:04.227
When there were
early discussions of

00:42:04.251 --> 00:42:05.806
if Yelena was gonna come back,

00:42:05.889 --> 00:42:09.257
I was thinking about
where her mind was.

00:42:09.281 --> 00:42:12.563
How does she find
out? Who tells her?

00:42:12.896 --> 00:42:15.858
How does she react? Who does she go after?

00:42:16.066 --> 00:42:18.110
And then when we shot the tag scene,

00:42:18.193 --> 00:42:20.955
I didn't see it
coming that they'd

00:42:20.979 --> 00:42:23.740
put me and Clint
against each other,

00:42:23.824 --> 00:42:25.534
which I thought was a cool twist.

00:42:27.286 --> 00:42:28.928
If we did the
for-real fight with

00:42:28.952 --> 00:42:30.956
me wearing goggles,
it'd be like this.

00:42:31.498 --> 00:42:32.969
I was... I'm gonna,
I'll go get you

00:42:32.993 --> 00:42:34.376
a sandwich, I'll be right back.

00:42:36.378 --> 00:42:37.741
There's a lot of things that

00:42:37.765 --> 00:42:39.423
we had to work
through story-wise,

00:42:39.590 --> 00:42:40.934
'cause we don't know each other.

00:42:40.958 --> 00:42:42.301
She thinks I killed her sister,

00:42:42.384 --> 00:42:43.802
I'm like, "That's not true."

00:42:43.886 --> 00:42:45.813
All these things,
so we're trying to

00:42:45.837 --> 00:42:47.764
fill in holes of
truths and backstory.

00:42:47.890 --> 00:42:49.055
She was really wonderful

00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:50.392
to kind of help shape that.

00:42:50.476 --> 00:42:52.236
She's such a beast.
She's throwing me around.

00:42:52.269 --> 00:42:54.938
When Florence and I had
our first day together,

00:42:55.063 --> 00:42:57.283
I just remember
being so excited about

00:42:57.307 --> 00:42:59.526
the fact that there
was another female

00:42:59.610 --> 00:43:01.993
that came in and
came onto the set

00:43:02.017 --> 00:43:04.907
and totally took
ownership of her space

00:43:04.990 --> 00:43:08.202
and her character
and who she was in our story.

00:43:08.327 --> 00:43:10.305
I know you're thinking, "What?

00:43:10.329 --> 00:43:11.246
This is crazy.

00:43:11.330 --> 00:43:14.005
"I'm going to have
dinner with the enemy,

00:43:14.029 --> 00:43:16.502
and she made good
looking macaroni."

00:43:16.627 --> 00:43:19.421
My relationship with Hailee
is kind of like,

00:43:19.505 --> 00:43:22.341
our little heartbeat throughout
both of our stories.

00:43:22.424 --> 00:43:25.665
I think they're both
craving friendship,

00:43:25.689 --> 00:43:27.262
especially Yelena.

00:43:27.346 --> 00:43:29.765
And I think there's also that
lovely level of

00:43:29.890 --> 00:43:33.227
"Oh, well, if we really fought,
I'd win in two seconds."

00:43:33.602 --> 00:43:35.668
So, you know, I may as well just

00:43:35.692 --> 00:43:37.564
have a friend in all of this.

00:43:37.648 --> 00:43:39.024
What are we doing?

00:43:39.107 --> 00:43:40.175
I mean, it's Christmas Eve.

00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:41.147
Let's grab a drink, huh?

00:43:42.236 --> 00:43:44.530
- Okay. Yeah. Sure.
- Cool.

00:43:44.821 --> 00:43:46.121
After I kill Barton.

00:43:47.366 --> 00:43:48.754
No, that's not...

00:43:48.778 --> 00:43:50.577
No, that's not what...

00:43:52.538 --> 00:43:56.625
It's a very funny, soft, friendly fight.

00:43:56.708 --> 00:43:58.252
- Out of all the fights...
- Yes.

00:43:58.335 --> 00:43:59.902
...this is, like,

00:43:59.926 --> 00:44:02.422
a definite sisterly tussle,

00:44:02.506 --> 00:44:05.217
which is cute because up until that point,

00:44:05.342 --> 00:44:07.844
I think we've both been
in pretty hairy situations.

00:44:08.512 --> 00:44:09.812
They're having fun.

00:44:09.846 --> 00:44:11.598
I'm going to do it either way.

00:44:11.848 --> 00:44:12.820
Okay, but hear me out.

00:44:12.844 --> 00:44:14.309
What if you,
what if you don't...

00:44:20.023 --> 00:44:22.192
We're at the Rockefeller Center.

00:44:22.317 --> 00:44:23.765
It's pretty cool being here.

00:44:23.789 --> 00:44:24.611
I gotta tell ya.

00:44:24.736 --> 00:44:27.155
It's especially with no one here.

00:44:30.117 --> 00:44:31.129
We wanted to shoot

00:44:31.153 --> 00:44:33.245
our finale at the
Rockefeller Center,

00:44:33.328 --> 00:44:34.918
and initially we
weren't quite sure

00:44:34.942 --> 00:44:36.957
if we were gonna be
even allowed to do it,

00:44:37.040 --> 00:44:40.168
or how were we gonna
accomplish such a big feat there.

00:44:40.252 --> 00:44:43.589
But spending that time there to make sure
that we got the environment

00:44:43.714 --> 00:44:45.662
and got the tree
and got the rink,

00:44:45.686 --> 00:44:47.634
and then replicating
that in Atlanta

00:44:47.718 --> 00:44:50.220
for the rest of the work
was pretty incredible.

00:44:52.347 --> 00:44:53.880
We're not, in fact,

00:44:53.904 --> 00:44:57.144
in New York City
currently, but we were.

00:44:57.227 --> 00:45:00.063
And it feels like
we are now with everything,

00:45:00.147 --> 00:45:02.566
from what you see
behind us to the temperature.

00:45:05.527 --> 00:45:07.279
The sets that Maya Shimoguchi,

00:45:07.362 --> 00:45:08.831
who's our production designer,

00:45:08.855 --> 00:45:09.781
built were amazing.

00:45:09.865 --> 00:45:11.742
The construction team in Atlanta

00:45:11.825 --> 00:45:12.773
put together the sets

00:45:12.797 --> 00:45:14.202
that people were blown away by.

00:45:14.286 --> 00:45:16.997
They copied right down
to the look of the granite.

00:45:17.080 --> 00:45:18.758
So, it was amazing between that,

00:45:18.782 --> 00:45:20.459
and the ice was not really ice

00:45:20.542 --> 00:45:22.324
because we
determined that the ice

00:45:22.348 --> 00:45:24.129
was gonna be too
hard to maintain

00:45:24.212 --> 00:45:26.010
and the temperature
levels in Atlanta

00:45:26.034 --> 00:45:28.133
wouldn't allow us to
keep the ice frozen.

00:45:28.216 --> 00:45:30.260
So, it's actually a knock-off substance

00:45:30.344 --> 00:45:32.179
you could use, and wasn't slippery.

00:45:32.262 --> 00:45:32.965
Which was nice,

00:45:32.989 --> 00:45:34.598
we have crew
walking around on it.

00:45:35.891 --> 00:45:37.348
Getting to this point now

00:45:37.372 --> 00:45:39.770
as we near the end
of filming this thing,

00:45:39.853 --> 00:45:42.230
although we've shot
very much out of order,

00:45:43.065 --> 00:45:44.398
ending with this part

00:45:44.422 --> 00:45:46.652
of Kate is actually
pretty special,

00:45:46.735 --> 00:45:48.246
I think, because she has grown

00:45:48.270 --> 00:45:49.780
and I have been able to find her

00:45:49.905 --> 00:45:51.541
through all of those jokey,

00:45:51.565 --> 00:45:53.200
crazy, funny, actiony bits,

00:45:53.283 --> 00:45:54.623
and then we get down

00:45:54.647 --> 00:45:56.662
to the most insane fun action.

00:45:59.581 --> 00:46:00.881
Hello, sweetie!

00:46:02.167 --> 00:46:04.276
I've always referred
to this sequence

00:46:04.300 --> 00:46:05.879
as our Rio Bravo sequence,

00:46:05.962 --> 00:46:08.090
essentially the siege
of Rockefeller Center.

00:46:08.173 --> 00:46:09.792
So, we start out high

00:46:09.816 --> 00:46:12.678
in the building at
this serene party,

00:46:12.761 --> 00:46:13.875
and it's very Christmassy,

00:46:13.899 --> 00:46:15.013
and everything's mellow,

00:46:15.097 --> 00:46:16.515
and then chaos erupts.

00:46:17.009 --> 00:46:19.511
And ends with the tree coming down,

00:46:20.012 --> 00:46:22.306
which for me is particularly special

00:46:22.389 --> 00:46:23.484
'cause, yeah, I worked

00:46:23.508 --> 00:46:25.559
at Rockefeller Center
for about 12 years,

00:46:25.642 --> 00:46:28.520
so, it's bizarre
that we've recreated this whole thing.

00:46:34.610 --> 00:46:36.759
Pretty impossible to
do what we're doing

00:46:36.783 --> 00:46:38.655
to the Rockefeller
Christmas tree

00:46:38.739 --> 00:46:41.033
for the love of Christmas, right?

00:46:43.118 --> 00:46:44.578
But it's pretty awesome.

00:46:44.661 --> 00:46:46.558
We're gonna do
a lot of really killer

00:46:46.582 --> 00:46:48.373
kickass fight
scenes on this ice.

00:46:49.583 --> 00:46:51.043
My gun! What happened?

00:46:52.085 --> 00:46:53.837
That should hold them off for a bit.

00:46:54.796 --> 00:46:56.965
- Oh, my God, you wore it!
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:57.049 --> 00:46:58.884
Oh, my God, it looks so good, I told you.

00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:05.349
It is the moment in the story
where they become a team.

00:47:06.683 --> 00:47:07.722
So this is the moment

00:47:07.746 --> 00:47:09.686
where you really
want them to feel like

00:47:09.770 --> 00:47:12.064
they're connected and they're a piece.

00:47:12.147 --> 00:47:14.262
And I think we accomplished that

00:47:14.286 --> 00:47:16.401
with the costumes
for each of them.

00:47:16.485 --> 00:47:17.903
Bringing the design elements

00:47:17.986 --> 00:47:21.323
like the chevron and the various
shades of purple and black

00:47:21.406 --> 00:47:25.410
into the design so that
they feel like they are a collective

00:47:25.494 --> 00:47:27.579
and a team that can work together well.

00:47:27.955 --> 00:47:29.255
Kate.

00:47:31.083 --> 00:47:32.167
Let's give 'em hell.

00:47:32.292 --> 00:47:34.461
It was so funny,
'cause during our first fitting,

00:47:34.544 --> 00:47:37.589
I must have heard
"It's just a prototype" like 100 times,

00:47:37.673 --> 00:47:40.217
because I was so overly excited,
much like...

00:47:40.300 --> 00:47:41.797
Kate is a lot of the show,

00:47:41.821 --> 00:47:42.970
that they were like,

00:47:43.053 --> 00:47:44.388
"You have no idea. It's not...

00:47:44.471 --> 00:47:45.711
"This is just the bare bones

00:47:45.735 --> 00:47:46.974
of what this is gonna be."

00:47:47.099 --> 00:47:47.768
And I was like,

00:47:47.792 --> 00:47:49.142
"Well, if that's what this is,

00:47:49.226 --> 00:47:49.959
"then this thing

00:47:49.983 --> 00:47:51.228
is gonna be pretty badass."

00:47:53.063 --> 00:47:55.065
- Stealth.
- That was great.

00:47:55.148 --> 00:47:57.734
In keeping
with sort of the utility of everything,

00:47:57.818 --> 00:47:59.409
we wanted the costumes to feel

00:47:59.433 --> 00:48:01.238
a little bit more
like sportswear,

00:48:01.363 --> 00:48:03.281
like something that you could move in.

00:48:03.365 --> 00:48:06.034
You know, a lot of the superhero costumes

00:48:06.952 --> 00:48:08.619
have a lot of bulk to them

00:48:08.643 --> 00:48:10.956
or feel restrictive
in certain ways.

00:48:11.081 --> 00:48:12.821
We really wanted this to feel

00:48:12.845 --> 00:48:14.584
like they can move in them.

00:48:16.378 --> 00:48:17.581
I'll never ever complain

00:48:17.605 --> 00:48:19.214
about the comfort level of suits

00:48:19.297 --> 00:48:21.025
compared to every other Avenger

00:48:21.049 --> 00:48:22.384
and superhero out there,

00:48:22.467 --> 00:48:23.635
'cause I have probably,

00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:25.454
or we probably have
some of the more

00:48:25.478 --> 00:48:27.014
comfortable ones, considering.

00:48:27.347 --> 00:48:28.941
The only one that might rival

00:48:28.965 --> 00:48:30.559
the comfort level is Ruffalo's,

00:48:30.642 --> 00:48:32.310
it's just some checkered pajamas.

00:48:33.687 --> 00:48:35.778
And that Missy, boy, she just

00:48:35.802 --> 00:48:38.400
outdid herself
with the suit, right?

00:48:38.483 --> 00:48:41.403
- The elasticity in this fabric is...
- Okay, you can stop.

00:48:42.612 --> 00:48:45.323
That was a difficult
sequence to manage

00:48:45.407 --> 00:48:47.230
because you had so much story

00:48:47.254 --> 00:48:49.077
converging in this one place.

00:48:49.161 --> 00:48:51.121
Letting each of them have their moment

00:48:51.246 --> 00:48:52.164
so you're invested.

00:48:52.188 --> 00:48:53.790
You understood
what was going on,

00:48:53.874 --> 00:48:55.417
but could keep moving between them.

00:48:55.500 --> 00:48:57.419
That was the biggest challenge of all.

00:48:57.502 --> 00:48:59.337
Your first arrow is gonna go to Kate.

00:48:59.421 --> 00:49:00.464
- This is Kate.
- Hi.

00:49:00.547 --> 00:49:02.632
- Hi.
- You're gonna fire at him. One, two.

00:49:02.716 --> 00:49:04.509
And then second one up high.

00:49:04.593 --> 00:49:06.666
We've got a massive
fight on this ice rink

00:49:06.690 --> 00:49:08.305
with a bunch of Tracksuit Mafia

00:49:08.388 --> 00:49:09.982
where Kate and
Clint finally find

00:49:10.006 --> 00:49:11.600
their rhythm and become a team,

00:49:11.683 --> 00:49:13.310
which is a really great evolution.

00:49:13.393 --> 00:49:17.022
Ready! And one! And two! And three!

00:49:17.105 --> 00:49:19.316
And four! And five!

00:49:21.318 --> 00:49:23.570
Ready. And fire!

00:49:25.447 --> 00:49:27.324
Kate goes away to kinda find her mom,

00:49:27.407 --> 00:49:29.090
and Clint's back on the ice,

00:49:29.114 --> 00:49:30.494
getting shot at by Kazi

00:49:30.577 --> 00:49:31.643
and stuff's going crazy,

00:49:31.667 --> 00:49:32.913
and then before you know it,

00:49:32.996 --> 00:49:34.748
Yelena's tackling him back onto the ice.

00:49:36.333 --> 00:49:37.417
Ribs.

00:49:37.542 --> 00:49:39.889
For me, this is one of the most

00:49:39.913 --> 00:49:41.880
emotional and epic scenes.

00:49:41.963 --> 00:49:44.424
Nobody killed her. She made a choice.

00:49:44.508 --> 00:49:45.808
Stop lying!

00:49:45.842 --> 00:49:48.428
As these pieces of the story unfold,

00:49:48.512 --> 00:49:50.032
she's becoming less technical

00:49:50.056 --> 00:49:50.889
and more brutal.

00:49:50.972 --> 00:49:52.308
So by the end of this,

00:49:52.332 --> 00:49:53.975
she's got one of her batons

00:49:54.059 --> 00:49:55.593
and she's literally
beating the crap

00:49:55.617 --> 00:49:57.062
out of him and he's letting her,

00:49:57.145 --> 00:49:58.647
because he feels as bad as she does.

00:50:03.652 --> 00:50:06.154
So, obviously, it being a finale,

00:50:06.238 --> 00:50:08.573
we see all of these stories
kind of come to a head,

00:50:08.657 --> 00:50:10.992
and Clint's been
on this redemption journey,

00:50:11.076 --> 00:50:12.649
and Maya, you know,

00:50:12.673 --> 00:50:15.080
is sort of a palpable fallout

00:50:15.163 --> 00:50:17.165
of his actions as the Ronin, and so,

00:50:17.249 --> 00:50:19.751
we watch them both have their
climactic sort of showdowns.

00:50:19.835 --> 00:50:22.379
Him with Yelena, her with Kazi.

00:50:31.138 --> 00:50:33.265
Seeing the comic page
come to life on the screen

00:50:33.348 --> 00:50:35.600
is what has excited me
for the past 20 years.

00:50:35.725 --> 00:50:39.896
But really, as we get into
the second decade of Marvel Studios,

00:50:39.980 --> 00:50:41.690
what is equally exciting to me

00:50:41.773 --> 00:50:45.861
is the enthusiasm
and the joy that the actors themselves

00:50:45.944 --> 00:50:48.247
bring to evolving and portraying

00:50:48.271 --> 00:50:50.574
these characters
year after year.

00:50:54.828 --> 00:50:56.443
We were all on a call,

00:50:56.467 --> 00:50:58.081
me and Kevin and Trinh,

00:50:58.165 --> 00:50:59.702
and we were talking

00:50:59.726 --> 00:51:01.751
about the Tracksuit Mafia

00:51:01.835 --> 00:51:03.830
and the criminal organization

00:51:03.854 --> 00:51:05.088
behind this story,

00:51:05.172 --> 00:51:06.756
and we needed a really big threat,

00:51:06.882 --> 00:51:08.053
like something that,

00:51:08.077 --> 00:51:10.135
you know, would
make Eleanor Bishop

00:51:10.218 --> 00:51:12.292
shake in her boots and Hawkeye,

00:51:12.316 --> 00:51:14.389
you know, get
a little bit afraid.

00:51:14.472 --> 00:51:15.891
It had to be someone powerful.

00:51:15.974 --> 00:51:16.880
When you talk about

00:51:16.904 --> 00:51:18.727
organized crime in
the Marvel universe

00:51:18.810 --> 00:51:21.730
and you talk about
the seedy underbelly of New York City,

00:51:21.855 --> 00:51:25.025
there is one primary character
that comes to mind.

00:51:30.488 --> 00:51:33.617
Kevin threw out the idea that,

00:51:34.492 --> 00:51:36.161
"What if this could be Kingpin?"

00:51:36.244 --> 00:51:38.379
And I think all of our jaws just

00:51:38.403 --> 00:51:40.874
kind of dropped in
our Zoom meetings,

00:51:40.957 --> 00:51:41.857
and we're kinda like,

00:51:41.881 --> 00:51:43.084
"Wait, you're joking, right?

00:51:43.168 --> 00:51:45.170
"This can't be serious. Are you serious?

00:51:45.253 --> 00:51:46.880
"This is... You're...

00:51:47.756 --> 00:51:50.091
"You really think that there's a chance

00:51:50.175 --> 00:51:52.802
"that we can actually
get Vincent D'Onofrio,

00:51:52.886 --> 00:51:55.096
"who plays Kingpin in Daredevil,

00:51:55.180 --> 00:51:57.849
"in the series as a cameo
for a couple of scenes?

00:51:57.933 --> 00:51:59.684
"Like, he is our big boss?"

00:52:00.060 --> 00:52:03.063
And Kevin made a call to Vincent.

00:52:03.146 --> 00:52:05.815
He said,
"I want to bring you into the MCU."

00:52:05.899 --> 00:52:07.168
I'm not gonna say no to that.

00:52:07.192 --> 00:52:08.151
That's pretty awesome.

00:52:08.235 --> 00:52:09.535
The people

00:52:10.779 --> 00:52:12.530
need to be reminded

00:52:14.532 --> 00:52:16.326
that the city belongs to me.

00:52:16.409 --> 00:52:18.328
I really loved playing this character.

00:52:18.536 --> 00:52:20.872
I liked creating him, you know,

00:52:20.956 --> 00:52:24.668
from the art of guys like David Mack.

00:52:25.669 --> 00:52:27.670
We had talked about doing

00:52:27.694 --> 00:52:30.340
a heavier set
version of Kingpin.

00:52:30.423 --> 00:52:32.595
But ultimately,
we wanted to go in

00:52:32.619 --> 00:52:35.387
a different direction
for this character.

00:52:36.054 --> 00:52:38.253
To put him in
that Hawaiian shirt

00:52:38.277 --> 00:52:40.475
was kind of like a
dream come true.

00:52:43.144 --> 00:52:43.956
We had talks,

00:52:43.980 --> 00:52:46.439
and she gets really
in depth about things.

00:52:46.523 --> 00:52:48.858
I love that 'cause I
was able to explain

00:52:48.882 --> 00:52:50.735
how I feel about the character

00:52:50.819 --> 00:52:52.696
and what motivates the character.

00:52:52.779 --> 00:52:55.115
And Fisk is really driven by emotion.

00:52:55.198 --> 00:52:56.616
You know, he's like a child

00:52:56.640 --> 00:52:58.535
and a monster both
at the same time.

00:52:58.618 --> 00:53:00.704
So it got very intense yesterday,

00:53:00.787 --> 00:53:02.998
and it got a little bit
intense today, too.

00:53:06.334 --> 00:53:07.634
Maya.

00:53:09.379 --> 00:53:10.679
You and I...

00:53:11.256 --> 00:53:12.556
we're family.

00:53:13.883 --> 00:53:15.260
Family.

00:53:16.594 --> 00:53:19.222
Sometimes family doesn't see...

00:53:19.681 --> 00:53:20.981
eye to eye...

00:53:30.317 --> 00:53:34.070
This whole experience
has been really crazy.

00:53:34.154 --> 00:53:36.573
I mean, there are just
a lot of moving parts

00:53:36.656 --> 00:53:38.108
and just an amazing,

00:53:38.132 --> 00:53:40.243
amazing large team of people.

00:53:40.410 --> 00:53:42.829
And to have
Jeremy as an ally through all of it

00:53:42.954 --> 00:53:44.456
has just been really special.

00:53:44.539 --> 00:53:46.333
Make sure you get that curve.

00:53:46.416 --> 00:53:48.001
- You got it, right?
- Okay.

00:53:48.585 --> 00:53:50.417
I keep saying
there's a lot going on,

00:53:50.441 --> 00:53:51.504
and in the best way,

00:53:51.588 --> 00:53:54.007
but it's nice to look
at the person that's next to you,

00:53:54.090 --> 00:53:55.486
that you're in this scene with,

00:53:55.510 --> 00:53:56.634
and have an understanding

00:53:56.718 --> 00:53:58.928
and confidence
that you'll get through it together.

00:53:59.012 --> 00:54:00.764
Yeah, he's my partner.

00:54:01.389 --> 00:54:02.557
No, we're not partners.

00:54:02.640 --> 00:54:05.393
- Well, we're friends-slash-partners.
- That's kind of a stretch.

00:54:05.477 --> 00:54:09.397
It's bittersweet for sure
as we come to this end.

00:54:11.649 --> 00:54:13.485
The mentor-mentee relationship

00:54:13.568 --> 00:54:16.446
is what we were really
striving to showcase in the series.

00:54:16.529 --> 00:54:19.783
But it's not really
one-sided between Clint and Kate.

00:54:19.866 --> 00:54:21.961
What's also really
interesting is that

00:54:21.985 --> 00:54:24.079
he's learning so much
from Kate as well,

00:54:24.162 --> 00:54:25.622
too, throughout the series.

00:54:25.705 --> 00:54:27.341
And in the end, you know,

00:54:27.365 --> 00:54:29.793
having learned a
lot from each other,

00:54:29.876 --> 00:54:31.211
they both become partners,

00:54:31.294 --> 00:54:32.867
and, you know, he eventually

00:54:32.891 --> 00:54:34.464
hands the mantle over to her.

00:54:34.547 --> 00:54:36.216
What do you think of "Lady Hawk"?

00:54:38.134 --> 00:54:39.344
Yeah, that's terrible.

00:54:39.427 --> 00:54:41.179
I mean, it's hard to quantify

00:54:41.262 --> 00:54:43.556
what it's meant for me as in my career.

00:54:43.640 --> 00:54:46.059
It certainly made me famous.

00:54:46.142 --> 00:54:48.073
When a fourth-grader
and third-grader

00:54:48.097 --> 00:54:49.813
knows your first and last name,

00:54:49.896 --> 00:54:51.398
that's a strange thing, right?

00:54:51.481 --> 00:54:54.067
It just,
it becomes like a very global thing.

00:54:54.150 --> 00:54:55.652
I know it's affected that way.

00:54:55.735 --> 00:54:57.628
But when I think of the MCU

00:54:57.652 --> 00:55:00.532
and my experiences
playing this character

00:55:00.615 --> 00:55:01.745
and every film that

00:55:01.769 --> 00:55:04.160
I was fortunate
enough to be able to do,

00:55:04.244 --> 00:55:06.413
it becomes much more
of a personal journey.

00:55:06.496 --> 00:55:09.124
Look at the wonderful
relationships I've got to forge

00:55:09.207 --> 00:55:10.708
you know, 'cause we're also...

00:55:10.792 --> 00:55:11.644
When you do a film,

00:55:11.668 --> 00:55:13.294
you're usually done
and you move on.

00:55:13.378 --> 00:55:15.255
And this is not even just a trilogy.

00:55:15.338 --> 00:55:16.965
This is a lot of films, right?

00:55:17.048 --> 00:55:19.551
So, you get to have that
sort of family element

00:55:19.634 --> 00:55:22.011
and continue on through so many years.

00:55:22.095 --> 00:55:24.055
And when you have a career
shared together,

00:55:24.139 --> 00:55:25.417
that's very, very far

00:55:25.441 --> 00:55:27.517
and few between,
or never happens.

00:55:28.184 --> 00:55:30.019
And I feel very blessed for that,

00:55:30.103 --> 00:55:33.523
and that's what I think about
when I think about my time in the MCU.

00:55:45.076 --> 00:55:47.308
See? Tree covers the parts

00:55:47.332 --> 00:55:50.081
that won't... come off. Damn it!

00:55:56.463 --> 00:55:57.797
Am I dead yet?

00:56:01.134 --> 00:56:02.434
Ow.

00:56:02.552 --> 00:56:04.304
Don't go without me!

00:56:04.387 --> 00:56:06.055
Have you ever eaten reindeer?

00:56:06.139 --> 00:56:07.765
I cannot say I've had the pleasure.

00:56:07.849 --> 00:56:10.226
No, it is not a pleasure.

00:56:10.768 --> 00:56:12.770
Put it down!

00:56:22.989 --> 00:56:24.532
Is my soul dead yet?

00:56:27.368 --> 00:56:28.668
How about now?

00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:31.379
No?