WEBVTT 00:00:10.675 --> 00:00:14.115 I'm going to fake my death. 00:00:16.675 --> 00:00:18.995 Don't let me down. 00:00:21.755 --> 00:00:26.435 I can now declare John Darwin missing, presumed dead. 00:00:30.195 --> 00:00:33.315 Oh, hello. Could you tell me who I need to speak to 00:00:33.355 --> 00:00:36.755 about making a life insurance claim, please? 00:00:38.795 --> 00:00:41.475 To Dad. To John. 00:00:41.515 --> 00:00:44.795 I am still having to lie to my parents, to strangers 00:00:44.835 --> 00:00:46.355 and to our sons. 00:00:49.915 --> 00:00:52.875 'We can start again. Just the two of us. 00:00:52.915 --> 00:00:55.355 'Go back to how it used to be.' 00:00:57.635 --> 00:01:02.275 Would you mind? It's just a thing we do with our clients. 00:01:06.235 --> 00:01:07.915 We might have a little problem. 00:01:07.955 --> 00:01:10.635 So... you're saying we can't actually live here? 00:01:10.675 --> 00:01:12.955 I'm going to fly back to the UK 00:01:12.995 --> 00:01:17.075 and tell the police I've had amnesia. 00:01:23.315 --> 00:01:26.235 And I suppose you have a brilliant alternative, do you? 00:01:26.275 --> 00:01:29.355 Sadly, no, I don't. 00:01:29.395 --> 00:01:31.155 Well, then. 00:01:31.195 --> 00:01:32.555 "Well, then", what? 00:01:32.595 --> 00:01:36.155 Me not having an alternative to your terrible idea 00:01:36.195 --> 00:01:40.195 does not then suddenly make your terrible idea a good idea. 00:01:41.875 --> 00:01:44.595 Why would you do this to me, Anne? 00:01:44.635 --> 00:01:49.155 Because you have doubted me at every single stage of this. 00:01:49.195 --> 00:01:52.035 Of our life, even. 00:01:52.075 --> 00:01:54.155 And the thing is 00:01:54.195 --> 00:01:56.115 at every single stage, 00:01:56.155 --> 00:01:58.635 I have proven you wrong. 00:01:58.675 --> 00:02:00.315 Really? 00:02:00.355 --> 00:02:02.755 Which I will do now, too. 00:02:02.795 --> 00:02:06.195 I will go ahead with my plan. 00:02:06.235 --> 00:02:09.515 We will be reunited with the boys. 00:02:10.595 --> 00:02:13.715 And we will be able to start again, 00:02:13.755 --> 00:02:16.355 with a clean slate. 00:02:46.915 --> 00:02:48.675 'In actual fact, 00:02:48.715 --> 00:02:51.715 'John did, in the end, entertain the notion 00:02:51.755 --> 00:02:55.475 'that his plan might not work in its entirety, 00:02:56.515 --> 00:02:58.715 'and came up with a fallback story, 00:02:58.755 --> 00:03:01.435 'which I had to learn, word for word. 00:03:02.755 --> 00:03:06.515 'But there was no stopping him returning to the UK 00:03:11.035 --> 00:03:15.715 'leaving me feeling as powerless as I had ever felt.' 00:03:23.275 --> 00:03:26.075 'And waiting, alone, 00:03:26.115 --> 00:03:29.115 'for what I knew was coming.' 00:03:51.555 --> 00:03:53.835 Excuse me? 00:03:53.875 --> 00:03:56.075 Are you OK? You look a bit upset. 00:03:58.355 --> 00:04:00.115 I'm not sure. 00:04:02.635 --> 00:04:05.475 I think I've lost my wife and sons. 00:04:14.995 --> 00:04:16.675 Where are we? 00:04:16.715 --> 00:04:18.835 This is Tottenham Court Road. 00:04:18.875 --> 00:04:20.875 No, I meant what city? 00:04:23.035 --> 00:04:25.195 OK, so I'm going to leave you here now. 00:04:25.235 --> 00:04:27.355 You just tell them what you told me, 00:04:27.395 --> 00:04:29.995 and hopefully, they can help you work out what's going on. 00:04:30.035 --> 00:04:31.475 Thank you. 00:04:33.355 --> 00:04:34.675 Hi, there. 00:04:36.115 --> 00:04:38.475 Are you a 00:04:38.515 --> 00:04:41.995 a police officer? I am. How can I help you, sir? 00:04:43.195 --> 00:04:45.555 I think I might be a missing person. 00:04:45.595 --> 00:04:48.275 Oh, right. And why do you think that, then? 00:04:49.795 --> 00:04:52.675 I-I think I have a wife and sons, 00:04:52.715 --> 00:04:56.595 but I don't know where they are. I-I d-don't know 00:04:56.635 --> 00:04:58.195 where I've been. I do... 00:04:58.235 --> 00:05:00.475 I don't remember anything. 00:05:00.515 --> 00:05:02.875 And when you say you can't remember anything... 00:05:02.915 --> 00:05:04.955 I... 00:05:04.995 --> 00:05:08.355 I think I have amnesia. 00:05:08.395 --> 00:05:11.275 Because the last thing I remember 00:05:11.315 --> 00:05:14.155 is our holiday in Norway. 00:05:14.195 --> 00:05:16.315 OK, and do you know when that was? 00:05:17.755 --> 00:05:19.555 Summer 2000. 00:05:20.675 --> 00:05:23.355 OK. And 00:05:23.395 --> 00:05:25.515 do you know what year it is now, sir? 00:05:27.555 --> 00:05:29.115 Winter 2000? 00:05:29.155 --> 00:05:32.355 It's actually December 2007. 00:05:33.955 --> 00:05:35.035 No... 00:05:35.075 --> 00:05:38.715 OK. Do you remember your name? 00:05:39.795 --> 00:05:41.995 Yes. Yeah, I do. 00:05:42.035 --> 00:05:44.155 I do remember my name... 00:05:45.835 --> 00:05:47.475 My name 00:05:49.995 --> 00:05:51.834 is Darwin. 00:05:51.874 --> 00:05:54.234 John Darwin. 00:05:57.114 --> 00:05:58.354 OK. 00:05:58.394 --> 00:06:01.394 Can you just take a seat over there for me for a second, Mr Darwin? 00:06:01.434 --> 00:06:03.274 I'll be right back. 00:06:20.074 --> 00:06:22.954 PHONE RINGS I'm so sorry, so sorry. 00:06:27.594 --> 00:06:28.794 Hello? 00:06:28.834 --> 00:06:30.874 'Hi, there. Could I speak to Mark Darwin, please?' 00:06:30.914 --> 00:06:32.994 Yes, speaking. 'Er, good evening. 00:06:33.034 --> 00:06:34.874 'My name is Sergeant Clark-Darby, 00:06:34.914 --> 00:06:37.474 'from West End Central police station.' Oh. Er... 00:06:37.514 --> 00:06:40.154 Hello. 'I've been in touch with Hartlepool Police, 00:06:40.194 --> 00:06:43.194 'and I'm not really sure how to say this, so I'll just say it straight. 00:06:43.234 --> 00:06:45.554 'A man has just presented himself at our front desk, 00:06:45.594 --> 00:06:47.394 'claiming to be your father.' 00:06:47.434 --> 00:06:51.434 Erm... Sorry, I'm at a wedding, I can't hear you very well. 00:06:51.474 --> 00:06:53.514 Can you just give me ten seconds? 00:06:53.554 --> 00:06:54.834 Just wait. 00:06:57.794 --> 00:07:00.154 Sorry, can... Can you just say that again, please? 00:07:00.194 --> 00:07:02.274 For a second, I-I thought you said my father. 00:07:02.314 --> 00:07:04.194 'Yeah, I did.' 00:07:04.234 --> 00:07:05.994 My father's dead. 'Yeah. 00:07:06.034 --> 00:07:07.794 'Or, at least, I know he was declared dead, 00:07:07.834 --> 00:07:10.354 'and obviously this guy could be a complete crank. 00:07:10.394 --> 00:07:13.514 'But he's been asking questions about Chester-le-Street, 00:07:13.554 --> 00:07:16.434 'your mother, Anne, and Anthony.' 00:07:18.874 --> 00:07:20.954 Love, are you OK? 00:07:28.874 --> 00:07:32.234 I can be there in about 20 minutes, and I'll call you when I get there. 00:07:32.274 --> 00:07:34.634 'It'll be a crank.' I'm sure it is a crank. 00:07:34.674 --> 00:07:37.274 But how would he have known about the old house? 'No idea, but...' 00:07:37.314 --> 00:07:39.554 Listen, mate, I'm about to head into the Tube. 00:07:39.594 --> 00:07:41.394 I'll call you as soon as I get there, OK? 00:07:41.434 --> 00:07:44.034 So, if it is him, the psychiatrist who's just examined him 00:07:44.074 --> 00:07:46.714 suggests that we don't ask too many questions. 00:07:46.754 --> 00:07:49.274 Right. He's very disorientated right now. 00:07:49.314 --> 00:07:52.154 And although, of course, you're gonna wanna know a million things, 00:07:52.194 --> 00:07:54.314 it might just make things worse. 00:07:54.354 --> 00:07:56.634 I, I, er... Do you think it's him? 00:07:56.674 --> 00:08:00.354 I really hope so, fella, for you all. Thank you. 00:08:01.914 --> 00:08:03.434 Come in. Ready? Er... Yeah. 00:08:23.314 --> 00:08:24.634 Oh, Mark. 00:08:27.514 --> 00:08:29.554 Oh, my God. 00:08:29.594 --> 00:08:32.314 Oh... My... 00:08:32.354 --> 00:08:34.514 My boy. My Mark. 00:08:34.554 --> 00:08:37.034 Oh, my God. 00:08:38.354 --> 00:08:39.914 Oh, my God! 00:08:43.154 --> 00:08:46.074 Come here, son. Come here... Come here, son. 00:08:47.834 --> 00:08:51.034 Give me a hug. Come here. 00:08:51.074 --> 00:08:53.274 Oh, Dad, I've missed you! 00:08:53.314 --> 00:08:55.634 I've missed you so much! 00:08:56.714 --> 00:08:59.954 I've missed you too, son. Very much. 00:08:59.994 --> 00:09:01.594 We have to call Mam, Dad. 00:09:01.634 --> 00:09:04.514 And Anthony. We have to call everyone! 00:09:36.194 --> 00:09:38.034 I always had a feeling, Dad. 00:09:38.074 --> 00:09:40.594 I always had a feeling. 00:09:42.874 --> 00:09:45.594 Me too, Ant. 00:09:45.634 --> 00:09:48.154 Me too. 00:10:10.674 --> 00:10:12.434 Hello? 00:10:12.474 --> 00:10:13.634 'Mam?' 00:10:14.994 --> 00:10:17.434 Is that you, Mark? 'Yes, Mam, it's me. 00:10:17.474 --> 00:10:18.874 'Erm... 00:10:18.914 --> 00:10:21.074 'Something extraordinary has happened. 00:10:22.114 --> 00:10:24.754 You're not gonna believe this, but... 00:10:24.794 --> 00:10:27.274 I'm in a police station in... in London. 00:10:28.834 --> 00:10:30.874 And I'm sitting next to Dad! 00:10:33.434 --> 00:10:35.154 You're with who? 00:10:35.194 --> 00:10:37.554 'You heard right, Mam. I'm with Dad.' 00:10:37.594 --> 00:10:39.274 He's, er... 00:10:41.114 --> 00:10:42.954 He's alive! 00:10:42.994 --> 00:10:46.274 He's had amnesia, but he's alive, and he's well. 00:10:46.314 --> 00:10:49.474 And... he's sitting right next to me. 00:10:50.754 --> 00:10:52.434 'And, er... 00:10:52.474 --> 00:10:54.674 'I'm going to pass you on to him now.' 00:11:05.354 --> 00:11:06.954 Is that you, Anne? 00:11:11.034 --> 00:11:13.194 Oh, my God! John? 00:11:14.194 --> 00:11:17.074 Oh, Anne. It is you. 00:11:20.434 --> 00:11:23.114 I-I've had amnesia. 00:11:23.154 --> 00:11:26.834 'And I-I'm so confused.' 00:11:28.074 --> 00:11:30.554 I don't know what's going on. 00:11:34.954 --> 00:11:36.714 'I'm sorry.' 00:11:38.074 --> 00:11:40.274 Oh, John, I can't believe it. 00:11:40.314 --> 00:11:42.554 I can't believe it's really you. 00:11:42.594 --> 00:11:45.914 I am so sorry 00:11:45.954 --> 00:11:47.954 my darling. 00:11:49.034 --> 00:11:52.114 No need to be sorry, I just... 'Mam, it's me again. Erm...' 00:11:54.754 --> 00:11:56.794 He's too upset, I think. 00:11:57.834 --> 00:11:59.594 Er... 00:11:59.634 --> 00:12:01.994 But he's well, and... 00:12:04.034 --> 00:12:05.914 Can you believe it? I 00:12:05.954 --> 00:12:07.954 just keep thinking it's some sort of dream. 00:12:09.634 --> 00:12:11.914 Oh, Mark, I can't believe it. 00:12:11.954 --> 00:12:14.194 I'm so happy. I just... 00:12:15.994 --> 00:12:19.194 Where's he been? Has he said what's happened to him? 00:12:19.234 --> 00:12:22.234 'He's not sure. He's pretty confused, to be honest. 00:12:22.274 --> 00:12:23.994 'But the doctors are looking at him.' 00:12:25.594 --> 00:12:29.234 But in the end, I really don't care. I'm just... 00:12:29.274 --> 00:12:31.194 I'm just so happy he's back. 00:12:31.234 --> 00:12:34.434 Oh, sweetheart, it's amazing. 00:12:34.474 --> 00:12:38.394 But listen, I need to be with Dad right now, 00:12:38.434 --> 00:12:40.994 so I'd better go. 00:12:41.034 --> 00:12:43.394 And we'll call you later from Anthony's. 00:12:43.434 --> 00:12:46.754 Dad's gonna be staying there for now. OK? 00:12:46.794 --> 00:12:50.874 Oh, OK. So they're not... keeping him, the police, or...? 00:12:50.914 --> 00:12:53.034 'No, no, no. He's free.' 00:12:54.714 --> 00:12:56.794 OK, well, yes, call me later. 00:12:56.834 --> 00:12:58.274 Yeah, I will. 00:12:58.314 --> 00:12:59.834 And, Mam, you'd better start 00:12:59.874 --> 00:13:01.954 checking flights back to the UK, yeah? 00:13:01.994 --> 00:13:03.594 I will. 00:13:03.634 --> 00:13:06.314 'OK, Mam. Erm... we love you.' 00:13:06.354 --> 00:13:08.474 Mark, sweetheart 00:13:14.874 --> 00:13:17.074 you have your father back. 00:13:18.474 --> 00:13:20.034 I'm so happy for you. 00:13:23.314 --> 00:13:24.794 Mark? 00:13:59.174 --> 00:14:00.654 Anne? 00:14:05.174 --> 00:14:06.734 Mam? 00:14:08.654 --> 00:14:09.854 Mam? 00:14:27.894 --> 00:14:29.294 Amy? 00:14:29.334 --> 00:14:31.374 Ames! Yeah? 00:14:31.414 --> 00:14:34.174 Is Dave Leigh still based in Miami? 00:14:34.214 --> 00:14:37.574 Yeah, I think so. We need him on this Hartlepool story, pronto. 00:14:48.214 --> 00:14:51.054 'So... has she booked her flight back?' 00:14:51.094 --> 00:14:52.734 'No, actually, she hasn't.' 00:14:54.454 --> 00:14:57.654 She said she has some things to sort out there. 00:14:57.694 --> 00:14:59.014 Her stuff's just arrived, 00:14:59.054 --> 00:15:01.094 and she needs to sign some legal documents for it. 00:15:01.134 --> 00:15:02.454 Can't that wait? 00:15:02.494 --> 00:15:04.854 Apparently not. Listen, 00:15:04.894 --> 00:15:06.334 Dad's on all the news channels now. 00:15:06.374 --> 00:15:08.494 We'd better call Grandad. OK. 00:15:08.534 --> 00:15:10.814 '..spoken to his wife in Panama, where she emigrated 00:15:10.854 --> 00:15:12.374 'six weeks ago. 00:15:12.414 --> 00:15:14.814 'He's currently enjoying spending time with his sons...' 00:15:14.854 --> 00:15:16.534 Yeah, I've just landed now. 00:15:16.574 --> 00:15:18.894 'And you've got the address?' Yeah, I've got it. 00:15:18.934 --> 00:15:21.934 And as I said, every single * hack in the UK is heading there. 00:15:21.974 --> 00:15:24.774 You need to be the first, Dave, OK? 00:15:24.814 --> 00:15:28.654 'The first.' Yes. I'll call you when I find her. 00:15:28.694 --> 00:15:30.774 Hey, Stef. Hey, Dave. 00:15:30.814 --> 00:15:32.934 Where we headed? Downtown. 00:15:32.974 --> 00:15:35.574 Let's take the freeway. We need to move it. 00:15:39.214 --> 00:15:42.334 That was New Year 2002. 00:15:42.374 --> 00:15:45.134 We came up to stay in the new house, do you remember that? 00:15:45.174 --> 00:15:47.374 The new house? 00:15:47.414 --> 00:15:49.734 In Seaton Carew. 00:15:49.774 --> 00:15:52.174 We bought a house in Seaton? 00:15:52.214 --> 00:15:54.454 Two, actually. 00:15:54.494 --> 00:15:56.214 Blimey. 00:15:57.574 --> 00:16:00.334 I used to go on holiday there with my parents. 00:16:03.894 --> 00:16:06.174 Is... is my dad still alive? 00:16:06.214 --> 00:16:08.294 He is, yeah. 00:16:08.334 --> 00:16:10.814 90 years old, still going strong. 00:16:10.854 --> 00:16:14.294 JOHN EXHALES We called him earlier. 00:16:14.334 --> 00:16:16.854 He's so happy, can't wait to see you. 00:16:21.254 --> 00:16:24.334 And what happened to the houses? 00:16:24.374 --> 00:16:27.774 Well, Mam sold them both when she went to Panama. 00:16:30.614 --> 00:16:32.494 Why would she go there? 00:16:33.814 --> 00:16:35.774 Er... We 00:16:35.814 --> 00:16:39.414 really struggled to understand it too, but 00:16:39.454 --> 00:16:42.054 she went on holiday there. 00:16:42.094 --> 00:16:44.094 Seemed to fall in love with it, and... 00:16:46.574 --> 00:16:49.374 It was really hard for her, Dad. 00:16:50.454 --> 00:16:53.014 Living in the same house you'd disappeared from. 00:16:54.774 --> 00:16:57.054 I think, in the end, she just wanted a 00:16:57.094 --> 00:16:59.294 completely new life. You know? 00:17:19.774 --> 00:17:21.774 Gracias. De nada. 00:17:52.413 --> 00:17:55.053 What are the chances she'll still be here? 00:17:55.093 --> 00:17:56.933 Slim to zero. 00:17:59.933 --> 00:18:02.573 I mean, if the husband you thought was dead 00:18:02.613 --> 00:18:04.733 turns up after five and a half years, 00:18:04.773 --> 00:18:06.773 you'd get the first flight back, right? 00:18:06.813 --> 00:18:08.773 If that is the story. 00:18:16.893 --> 00:18:19.333 Mrs Darwin? Are you in there? 00:18:32.133 --> 00:18:34.973 Mrs Darwin, I'm a reporter. 00:18:35.013 --> 00:18:36.693 But a nice one. 00:18:36.733 --> 00:18:38.093 And I just wanted to talk to you 00:18:38.133 --> 00:18:40.373 about the amazing news regarding your husband. 00:18:42.493 --> 00:18:43.973 Mrs Darwin? 00:18:45.613 --> 00:18:47.173 She's gone. 00:18:58.893 --> 00:19:01.053 Surprised he's still kipping through all this. 00:19:19.373 --> 00:19:21.373 What time did we get here? 00:19:21.413 --> 00:19:23.373 About five to. 00:19:32.213 --> 00:19:35.173 HE KNOCKS Mrs Darwin, are you in there? 00:19:39.253 --> 00:19:41.013 OK. Let's try the airport. 00:19:42.933 --> 00:19:44.733 What do you want? 00:19:46.053 --> 00:19:48.853 Oh, hi, there. Um... 00:19:48.893 --> 00:19:52.453 I just wanted to chat to you about the amazing news. 00:19:52.493 --> 00:19:55.373 I don't want to chat. 00:19:57.493 --> 00:20:00.013 Or maybe I could help you in some way? 00:20:01.333 --> 00:20:03.453 You can't help me. 00:20:03.493 --> 00:20:05.253 Nobody can. 00:20:09.413 --> 00:20:11.813 Well, it might help to talk. 00:20:11.853 --> 00:20:14.053 It often does. 00:20:20.333 --> 00:20:23.133 How do I know you really are a journalist? 00:20:23.173 --> 00:20:25.013 Er, hang on. 00:20:27.533 --> 00:20:29.733 So, I've got my press card here. 00:20:33.253 --> 00:20:37.293 And I'm just sliding it under the door for you... now. 00:20:56.173 --> 00:20:58.013 I suppose you'd better come in. 00:20:59.373 --> 00:21:02.053 Not him. Just you. 00:21:02.093 --> 00:21:03.813 Thank you. 00:21:03.853 --> 00:21:06.173 See you downstairs. 00:21:17.053 --> 00:21:19.613 I mean, what was it like? 00:21:19.653 --> 00:21:22.373 When you got the call from your son, you must have just been, 00:21:22.413 --> 00:21:24.053 so, so happy? 00:21:25.653 --> 00:21:27.653 I was, yes. 00:21:29.413 --> 00:21:31.813 And have you actually spoken to him yourself? 00:21:31.853 --> 00:21:35.813 To your husband? Yes, a couple of times. 00:21:35.853 --> 00:21:37.773 Wow. 00:21:37.813 --> 00:21:40.213 And what was it like? 00:21:40.253 --> 00:21:43.053 Very strange, but wonderful, obviously. 00:21:44.133 --> 00:21:45.573 Right. 00:21:47.333 --> 00:21:49.373 And was he able to tell you where he'd been, at all? 00:21:49.413 --> 00:21:51.693 For five and a half years? 00:21:53.413 --> 00:21:56.613 No, he's still very confused. 00:21:56.653 --> 00:21:58.733 Right. 00:22:04.373 --> 00:22:06.013 And a lot of people are asking, Anne, 00:22:06.053 --> 00:22:08.853 why you haven't just got straight on a plane. 00:22:08.893 --> 00:22:10.973 Back to London, to see him. 00:22:11.013 --> 00:22:14.933 I have important legal stuff to do here, to do with my residency. 00:22:14.973 --> 00:22:17.653 I should actually be at my lawyer's right now. 00:22:17.693 --> 00:22:19.133 Oh, right. 00:22:22.053 --> 00:22:23.973 OK, I'm going to level with you, Anne. 00:22:25.853 --> 00:22:28.733 In about an hour or so, I guess, 00:22:28.773 --> 00:22:31.773 half the journalists in England are gonna be knocking at this door. 00:22:31.813 --> 00:22:36.213 And I promise you, most of them aren't like me. 00:22:36.253 --> 00:22:39.973 So... I'm gonna make a suggestion, 00:22:40.013 --> 00:22:42.213 and feel free to tell me to bugger off. 00:22:44.693 --> 00:22:46.053 Go on. 00:22:47.453 --> 00:22:49.853 That I drive you to your lawyer's now. 00:22:49.893 --> 00:22:53.093 You don't look in any state to get into a car on your own. 00:22:53.133 --> 00:22:55.773 And then, whenever you've done whatever you need to do there, 00:22:55.813 --> 00:22:59.453 I take you somewhere safe and quiet - wherever you want, 00:22:59.493 --> 00:23:01.773 but away from here. 00:23:01.813 --> 00:23:04.133 And then you tell me your story. 00:23:05.293 --> 00:23:07.973 As much or as little as you want. 00:23:16.693 --> 00:23:18.853 Over here, to the left. 00:23:25.053 --> 00:23:27.013 Can I take your bags for you? 00:23:44.453 --> 00:23:47.653 'Going to my lawyer's turned out not to be such a good idea. 00:23:48.813 --> 00:23:51.573 'As Dave predicted, the press found us.' 00:23:53.533 --> 00:23:58.013 'But his plan to lose them did actually work, in the end.' 00:24:02.253 --> 00:24:05.413 Des? One of our readers found this on the internet. 00:24:08.413 --> 00:24:11.293 Oh, my Christ. 00:24:13.213 --> 00:24:16.533 OK, so the police need to see this, like, now. OK. 00:24:22.533 --> 00:24:25.733 'And then, just as the light was going, 00:24:25.773 --> 00:24:29.973 'we found a small hotel a few miles from the airport.' 00:24:42.973 --> 00:24:45.133 Sorry, I've just got to take this. 00:24:49.373 --> 00:24:51.933 Hey, Des. 'Is she in earshot?' 00:24:51.973 --> 00:24:54.693 No, we're just checking in. She's on the other side of the lobby. 00:24:54.733 --> 00:24:57.093 And is she still saying that everything's kosher? 00:24:57.133 --> 00:24:58.533 Yeah, yeah, 100%. 00:24:58.573 --> 00:25:01.293 I mean, she's a dreadful liar, and I don't believe a word of it, 00:25:01.333 --> 00:25:03.253 but yeah, she is. 'OK. 00:25:03.293 --> 00:25:07.453 'So, I've just emailed you a photo, which you need to show her... 00:25:07.493 --> 00:25:09.093 'And call me when she's seen it.' 00:25:09.133 --> 00:25:12.453 Do not now let her out of your sight. 00:25:40.853 --> 00:25:43.853 OK, Anne. I need you to look at something. 00:25:43.893 --> 00:25:47.533 And I'm really sorry, but this is not gonna be easy for you. 00:25:54.933 --> 00:25:58.693 It's got a time code imprinted on it, dated 18 months ago. 00:25:59.933 --> 00:26:02.493 So I'm afraid we know you've been lying. 00:26:04.533 --> 00:26:07.373 My sons are never gonna forgive me. 00:26:14.773 --> 00:26:18.293 So, yes, obviously I haven't been completely truthful with you. 00:26:20.293 --> 00:26:22.173 But only about the timing. 00:26:23.853 --> 00:26:26.373 John HAS had amnesia. 00:26:28.613 --> 00:26:30.893 And for a long time, I did think he was dead. 00:26:33.333 --> 00:26:35.173 But 00:26:35.213 --> 00:26:37.173 the truth is 00:26:38.733 --> 00:26:43.933 he came back. About a year and a bit after he disappeared. 00:26:45.013 --> 00:26:47.173 So he just turned up one day? Yes. 00:26:47.213 --> 00:26:48.893 Night, actually. 00:26:50.373 --> 00:26:53.373 I was watching the telly, and there was a knock on the door, 00:26:53.413 --> 00:26:55.013 and it was him. 00:26:56.853 --> 00:26:59.053 Must have been 00:26:59.093 --> 00:27:01.053 an unbelievable moment. It was. 00:27:01.093 --> 00:27:02.493 I couldn't believe it. 00:27:02.533 --> 00:27:05.413 I thought I was going to faint or have a heart attack. 00:27:05.453 --> 00:27:07.973 And so... did he tell you where he'd been? 00:27:08.013 --> 00:27:12.533 Well, that's it, he didn't know. Still doesn't. That bit's all real. 00:27:15.173 --> 00:27:17.533 So the canoe accident, that wasn't a fake at all? 00:27:17.573 --> 00:27:19.093 No. 00:27:20.173 --> 00:27:23.573 And the accident was actually what caused the amnesia, or...? 00:27:23.613 --> 00:27:26.173 Yes, probably, although obviously he couldn't remember. 00:27:26.213 --> 00:27:27.773 OK. 00:27:27.813 --> 00:27:31.533 And so, he came back before or after the life insurance claim was made? 00:27:31.573 --> 00:27:35.093 Oh, after, definitely. Otherwise, I would never have made it, would I? 00:27:35.133 --> 00:27:36.693 Right. 00:27:41.333 --> 00:27:43.613 So, the obvious question, Anne, 00:27:43.653 --> 00:27:47.213 is why didn't you both just go to the police at that point? 00:27:47.253 --> 00:27:49.293 I know. 00:27:49.333 --> 00:27:51.813 And we should have. And we should have told the boys. 00:27:51.853 --> 00:27:53.173 We absolutely should have. 00:27:53.213 --> 00:27:55.173 I know I wanted to. Right. 00:27:55.213 --> 00:27:57.133 Why didn't you? 00:28:00.533 --> 00:28:04.453 John wanted to get financially straight first. 00:28:04.493 --> 00:28:06.533 Sell all the properties, 00:28:06.573 --> 00:28:09.413 so we could pay all the insurance money back. 00:28:09.453 --> 00:28:12.173 So, at that point, then, it WAS about the money? 00:28:12.213 --> 00:28:14.453 No, it was about getting straight. 00:28:16.533 --> 00:28:19.453 So you've been getting straight for three years? 00:28:20.653 --> 00:28:21.973 Yes. 00:28:22.013 --> 00:28:23.813 And you're continuing to get straight 00:28:24.973 --> 00:28:26.413 out here? 00:28:29.453 --> 00:28:32.053 I am actually very tired now, David. 00:28:33.453 --> 00:28:36.133 Would you mind if we picked this up in the morning now? 00:28:38.733 --> 00:28:40.093 Sure. 00:28:42.453 --> 00:28:43.933 Sorry, I mean... 00:28:43.973 --> 00:28:47.133 Maybe I've misunderstood, or something, Anne, but 00:28:48.573 --> 00:28:51.053 if you wanted to pay the money back, 00:28:51.093 --> 00:28:52.613 why did you come here? 00:28:52.653 --> 00:28:55.333 Emigrate here, buy an apartment? 00:28:55.373 --> 00:28:56.973 Please. 00:28:58.653 --> 00:29:00.253 Sure. 00:29:08.292 --> 00:29:10.412 Um... 00:29:10.452 --> 00:29:12.892 Just so as you know, um 00:29:12.932 --> 00:29:16.412 the police have been sent the picture as well. 00:29:16.452 --> 00:29:18.692 So they're obviously gonna want to talk to John now. 00:29:18.732 --> 00:29:21.572 I imagine they'll want to talk to you, too. 00:29:21.612 --> 00:29:25.172 So I think you need to head back to the UK. 00:29:25.212 --> 00:29:27.612 Sooner, rather than later. 00:29:27.652 --> 00:29:31.012 I can look into booking you some flights, if you wanted me to. 00:29:32.772 --> 00:29:34.572 That would be very helpful. 00:29:34.612 --> 00:29:36.572 No problem. 00:29:37.932 --> 00:29:39.732 Right, um... 00:29:41.092 --> 00:29:43.732 Get some sleep, Anne. Good night. 00:29:52.772 --> 00:29:54.692 DOORBELL And we had it in... 00:29:56.452 --> 00:29:58.492 Who the hell's that? 00:30:01.732 --> 00:30:04.012 DOOR OPENING Good evening, sir. 00:30:04.052 --> 00:30:06.772 I have a warrant here for the arrest of John Ronald Darwin. 00:30:06.812 --> 00:30:09.052 What? I believe he's staying at this address? 00:30:09.092 --> 00:30:11.972 He is, yes. Arrest for what? Can we come in, please? 00:30:13.412 --> 00:30:14.812 Er, sure. He's in here. 00:30:16.252 --> 00:30:18.732 Sorry, Dad, these guys want to speak to you about something. 00:30:18.772 --> 00:30:20.292 John Darwin? 00:30:20.332 --> 00:30:22.732 Yes. I'm arresting you on suspicion of fraud. 00:30:22.772 --> 00:30:23.852 I beg your pardon? 00:30:23.892 --> 00:30:26.372 You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence 00:30:26.412 --> 00:30:28.132 if you do not mention, when questioned, 00:30:28.172 --> 00:30:31.212 something which you later rely on in court. This is ridiculous. 00:30:31.252 --> 00:30:33.392 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. What fraud? 00:30:34.292 --> 00:30:38.252 There's nothing to worry about, Ant. I-I'll be back in an hour or so. 00:31:29.932 --> 00:31:31.892 Maybe it's a fake. 00:31:31.932 --> 00:31:34.652 No, it's not a fake, Ant! 00:31:34.692 --> 00:31:38.572 Or she would have answered one of our calls by now, or called us. 00:31:38.612 --> 00:31:40.452 It's not a fake, mate. 00:31:43.092 --> 00:31:45.212 Wh-what have they done to us? 00:31:50.812 --> 00:31:52.092 Come here. 00:31:59.372 --> 00:32:01.852 So, he's being driven up here now, 00:32:01.892 --> 00:32:04.612 and the Mirror, who have got one of their reporters with the wife, 00:32:04.652 --> 00:32:07.372 assure me she is on the way back. 00:32:07.412 --> 00:32:11.612 So, hopefully, no lengthy extradition issue there. 00:32:11.652 --> 00:32:14.612 Do we think the sons were involved? No idea. 00:32:14.652 --> 00:32:16.172 Although one of them did ring earlier, 00:32:16.212 --> 00:32:18.252 wanting to know if they were gonna be interviewed. 00:32:18.292 --> 00:32:19.772 Interesting. 00:32:19.812 --> 00:32:23.892 I thought so. Anyway, Phil, pull up all original files. 00:32:23.932 --> 00:32:25.892 I'm gonna liaise with the ECU. And, Paul 00:32:25.932 --> 00:32:28.772 you're on Darwin when he gets here. 00:32:42.812 --> 00:32:44.212 Car's here, Anne. 00:32:49.812 --> 00:32:51.052 Your bag? 00:32:54.532 --> 00:32:56.972 Stupid old dobbin. 00:33:01.092 --> 00:33:02.652 Thank you. 00:33:06.492 --> 00:33:08.292 Jesus. 00:33:08.332 --> 00:33:10.852 Someone's dug up details of Jaguar here. 00:33:10.892 --> 00:33:13.172 What's Jaguar? 00:33:13.212 --> 00:33:15.892 The company Mam used to buy her apartment in Panama. 00:33:17.052 --> 00:33:18.932 We signed directors' forms for it. 00:33:18.972 --> 00:33:21.132 Vaguely. They're implying it was some sort of 00:33:21.172 --> 00:33:23.172 money-laundering thing. 00:33:26.932 --> 00:33:29.652 She asked us to sign some forms and we did. 00:33:29.692 --> 00:33:31.492 Cos she was our mam. 00:33:33.492 --> 00:33:36.772 Seriously, what sort of a person does what they've done? 00:33:36.812 --> 00:33:38.332 Don't know. 00:33:38.372 --> 00:33:40.732 I don't know, but * this shit. 00:33:40.772 --> 00:33:43.492 No, no, no. We need to protect ourselves now. 00:33:43.532 --> 00:33:45.572 We need to get the truth out there, mate. 00:33:45.612 --> 00:33:48.852 Having seen the recent media speculation 00:33:48.892 --> 00:33:51.732 surrounding our parents 00:33:51.772 --> 00:33:54.052 since our dad was arrested, 00:33:54.092 --> 00:33:59.532 we are very much in an angry and confused state of mind. 00:34:01.212 --> 00:34:03.212 'In the short space of time 00:34:03.252 --> 00:34:06.652 'following our dad's appearance in London on Saturday, 00:34:06.692 --> 00:34:09.892 'we've gone through a roller-coaster of emotions.' 00:34:09.932 --> 00:34:15.492 From the height of elation at finding him to be alive, 00:34:15.532 --> 00:34:17.772 to the depths of despair 00:34:17.812 --> 00:34:22.092 at the recent stories of fraud and these latest pictures. 00:34:25.372 --> 00:34:29.852 'We very much feel we have been victims of a large scam.' 00:34:29.892 --> 00:34:35.852 How could our mam have continued to let us believe our dad had died, 00:34:35.892 --> 00:34:38.532 when he was very much alive? 00:34:39.772 --> 00:34:42.292 "We've not spoken to either of our parents 00:34:42.332 --> 00:34:44.732 "since our dad's arrest. 00:34:44.772 --> 00:34:46.652 "And at this present time, 00:34:46.692 --> 00:34:49.292 "we want no further contact with them." 00:34:51.652 --> 00:34:53.412 What have I done? 00:34:59.132 --> 00:35:02.132 I have come back of my own volition. 00:35:03.292 --> 00:35:06.932 And if I had something to hide, why would I have done that? 00:35:08.172 --> 00:35:10.812 Well, I wouldn't, would I? 00:35:10.852 --> 00:35:13.692 Now, yes, I might have got the timing 00:35:13.732 --> 00:35:16.812 slightly out about my amnesia, but the rest is true. 00:35:18.252 --> 00:35:19.612 So trust me... 00:35:21.132 --> 00:35:22.932 I'm sorry, what's your name, again? 00:35:22.972 --> 00:35:26.372 Mike. So trust me, Mike. We're fine. 00:35:26.412 --> 00:35:27.772 Right. 00:35:29.292 --> 00:35:32.212 These clowns won't pin anything on me. 00:35:32.252 --> 00:35:34.532 Cos I've done absolutely nothing wrong. 00:35:55.292 --> 00:35:57.052 When he disappeared... 00:35:57.092 --> 00:36:00.092 I genuinely did think he'd had an accident and died, 00:36:00.132 --> 00:36:02.892 because I would never have done that to my boys. 00:36:02.932 --> 00:36:05.772 Told them their father was dead if I knew he wasn't. 00:36:08.012 --> 00:36:11.492 What sort of a mother would do such a dreadful thing? 00:36:15.052 --> 00:36:16.532 But 00:36:17.772 --> 00:36:19.732 I admit, when 00:36:19.772 --> 00:36:22.972 he finally turned up, after the inquest 00:36:24.852 --> 00:36:28.332 he did then eventually tell me that he'd planned it all. 00:36:33.732 --> 00:36:37.732 So the amnesia thing, that's all made up? He's never had amnesia? 00:36:37.772 --> 00:36:39.732 That's all made up. 00:36:39.772 --> 00:36:42.332 So where was he, Anne? 00:36:42.372 --> 00:36:46.052 All those years after he came back, where did he live? 00:36:46.092 --> 00:36:47.852 Next door. 00:36:50.092 --> 00:36:51.812 Next door, next door? 00:36:51.852 --> 00:36:54.612 Yes, number four. 00:36:54.652 --> 00:36:58.532 'Flight 549 to Miami, with connections to Manchester, England. 00:36:58.572 --> 00:37:00.852 'Boarding will commence in 16 minutes.' 00:37:04.532 --> 00:37:07.612 OK. I have to get this off to London. 00:37:10.772 --> 00:37:13.372 Will all this go in the paper? 00:37:13.412 --> 00:37:16.812 Tomorrow morning. If I can get it off before we board. 00:37:19.572 --> 00:37:22.132 Can you put one other thing in it, then? 00:37:22.172 --> 00:37:24.292 Can you put in that 00:37:26.092 --> 00:37:28.412 I am more sorry than I can ever say 00:37:28.452 --> 00:37:30.692 for what I've done to my children? 00:37:40.972 --> 00:37:44.452 The truth is, it's not me who should be sitting in front of you. 00:37:45.652 --> 00:37:47.372 Oh, no? 00:37:47.412 --> 00:37:49.212 Who is it, then, John? 00:37:50.292 --> 00:37:52.932 The banks. The lenders. 00:37:52.972 --> 00:37:55.652 No, no, Mike, this needs to be said. 00:37:55.692 --> 00:37:59.052 The credit card companies, all of 'em, 00:37:59.092 --> 00:38:01.852 who lure you in with their promises and their fine words. 00:38:01.892 --> 00:38:04.692 Oh, they're your best friend when you're borrowing 00:38:04.732 --> 00:38:07.452 and paying sky-high interest rates, but 00:38:07.492 --> 00:38:10.812 if they then decide they want their money back, oh 00:38:10.852 --> 00:38:13.652 they're not so friendly then, are they? No. 00:38:15.052 --> 00:38:17.212 And then, if you can't instantly deliver, 00:38:17.252 --> 00:38:20.572 they will take you down without a second thought. 00:38:20.612 --> 00:38:24.612 They will destroy you and everything you've worked for your entire life, 00:38:24.652 --> 00:38:27.052 without a second thought. 00:38:27.092 --> 00:38:28.932 So 00:38:28.972 --> 00:38:31.772 It's them who should be in the dock. 00:38:31.812 --> 00:38:33.092 Not me. 00:38:35.532 --> 00:38:37.852 So it WAS all about the money? 00:38:40.612 --> 00:38:43.292 It became about that, after I came back. 00:38:44.572 --> 00:38:46.772 It wasn't that at the start. 00:38:46.812 --> 00:38:49.172 When you first went missing? Yes. 00:38:50.732 --> 00:38:52.212 OK. 00:38:52.252 --> 00:38:54.772 So what was it about, John? 00:38:54.812 --> 00:38:56.892 At the start? 00:38:56.932 --> 00:39:01.732 Well, obviously, I can't remember that. Can I? 00:39:03.212 --> 00:39:06.932 OK, so you're still sticking to the story that you have amnesia? 00:39:06.972 --> 00:39:08.252 I do. 00:39:08.292 --> 00:39:09.812 I did. 00:39:09.852 --> 00:39:11.172 I do. 00:39:11.212 --> 00:39:13.852 From when to when? 00:39:15.772 --> 00:39:21.772 From a holiday in June 2000 till about mid-2003. 00:39:21.812 --> 00:39:24.812 OK, so just after all the money was paid out? 00:39:24.852 --> 00:39:26.452 Yes. 00:39:26.492 --> 00:39:28.972 Right. That's lucky. 00:39:29.012 --> 00:39:34.572 And I'd like to add that that money was claimed in good faith by Anne. 00:39:34.612 --> 00:39:36.452 They can't claim that back, I'm afraid. 00:39:36.492 --> 00:39:38.852 Those are their own rules. 00:39:40.092 --> 00:39:42.452 And so you don't remember anything 00:39:42.492 --> 00:39:44.692 about what happened on the day you went missing? 00:39:44.732 --> 00:39:46.852 Absolutely not. 00:39:46.892 --> 00:39:49.372 But you do remember that you definitely didn't 00:39:49.412 --> 00:39:51.932 plot to fake your own death for financial gain? 00:39:59.492 --> 00:40:01.572 No comment. 00:40:01.612 --> 00:40:02.932 OK. 00:40:04.332 --> 00:40:09.692 OK, I am now showing the suspect exhibit JAW-001, 00:40:09.732 --> 00:40:13.332 which is the front cover of today's Daily Mirror, 00:40:13.372 --> 00:40:15.372 which features a quote from your wife, Anne, 00:40:15.412 --> 00:40:20.212 taken from an interview she gave to a journalist just yesterday. 00:40:20.252 --> 00:40:21.932 And it simply reads, 00:40:21.972 --> 00:40:25.572 "John never had amnesia." 00:40:25.612 --> 00:40:27.852 So, erm 00:40:27.892 --> 00:40:30.452 what do you make of that, then, John? 00:40:37.531 --> 00:40:40.731 Well, if I were you gents, I wouldn't listen to a word she says. 00:40:42.651 --> 00:40:44.371 I never have! 00:41:11.611 --> 00:41:13.411 He does love me, you know. 00:41:15.651 --> 00:41:17.891 Sorry? 00:41:19.771 --> 00:41:21.451 Nothing. Sorry. 00:41:44.171 --> 00:41:45.491 OK... 00:41:47.771 --> 00:41:49.731 You OK? 00:41:51.691 --> 00:41:54.131 'Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. 00:41:54.171 --> 00:41:56.331 'I do apologise for the inconvenience. 00:41:56.371 --> 00:41:58.851 'Would you please immediately return to your seats 00:41:58.891 --> 00:42:00.651 'and remain seated until further notice? 00:42:00.691 --> 00:42:02.171 'I repeat, could all passengers 00:42:02.211 --> 00:42:04.371 'please return to their seats immediately?' 00:42:20.691 --> 00:42:23.211 Hi, erm... I'm David Leigh, I'm with the Daily Mirror. 00:42:23.251 --> 00:42:25.011 Go back to your seat, please. 00:42:26.651 --> 00:42:29.091 Go back to your seat, please. 00:42:29.131 --> 00:42:32.171 The longer you stand there asking me to be gentle, sir, 00:42:32.211 --> 00:42:34.531 the longer everyone else on this plane has to wait. 00:42:34.571 --> 00:42:37.731 OK. Can I just have 30 seconds with her, then, please? 00:42:37.771 --> 00:42:39.611 Ten. 00:42:43.851 --> 00:42:45.931 OK, Anne, I want to say two things. 00:42:45.971 --> 00:42:47.731 Firstly, I think you're a good person who, 00:42:47.771 --> 00:42:49.851 for reasons that are probably very complicated, 00:42:49.891 --> 00:42:52.211 did a truly dreadful thing. Second 00:42:52.251 --> 00:42:53.811 tell the police the truth now. 00:42:53.851 --> 00:42:55.851 It's time to accept what you've done 00:42:55.891 --> 00:42:58.411 and start building the trust with your sons. OK? 00:42:58.451 --> 00:43:00.251 Which I believe you can do. Just take it day by day... Anne Darwin? 00:43:02.291 --> 00:43:05.531 Yes. I'm arresting you on suspicion of fraud. 00:43:05.571 --> 00:43:07.971 You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence 00:43:08.011 --> 00:43:09.611 if you do not mention, when questioned, 00:43:09.651 --> 00:43:11.171 something you later rely on in court. 00:43:11.211 --> 00:43:13.851 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 00:43:16.531 --> 00:43:18.211 Grab your bags, please, Anne. 00:43:26.571 --> 00:43:29.411 Definitely needed five blokes with semi-automatics, mate 00:43:29.451 --> 00:43:31.411 Just in case you weren't sure. 00:43:34.171 --> 00:43:36.331 Good luck, Anne. Thank you. 00:44:11.331 --> 00:44:13.971 John Darwin remains in police custody. 00:44:14.011 --> 00:44:17.571 His wife, Anne, was arrested on arrival at Manchester Airport 00:44:17.611 --> 00:44:21.331 this morning, and will be interviewed shortly. 00:44:21.371 --> 00:44:24.211 Following our interviews with the husband and, indeed, 00:44:24.251 --> 00:44:26.971 comments made by his wife in a national newspaper, 00:44:27.011 --> 00:44:31.731 we have been authorised to issue holding charges against him 00:44:31.771 --> 00:44:36.531 of fraud and of obtaining a passport by deceit. 00:44:36.571 --> 00:44:39.371 We will continue to interview Mr Darwin. 00:44:39.411 --> 00:44:42.531 We are grateful that his memory continues to improve. 00:44:43.851 --> 00:44:46.211 Can you say yet whether the sons are involved? 00:44:46.251 --> 00:44:49.051 'I'm afraid I can't comment on that at this stage.' 00:44:49.091 --> 00:44:51.251 No, we were not * involved! 00:44:51.291 --> 00:44:55.371 'But obviously we will want to talk to them, in time.' 00:45:08.251 --> 00:45:09.571 Wait. 00:45:15.851 --> 00:45:17.211 Come. 00:45:30.531 --> 00:45:32.211 Stop. 00:45:41.451 --> 00:45:43.091 Thanks...