After the bug heist,
Northeast Detectives called me in,
asked me to review certain documents
and asked about the history
of the Insectarium and everything else.
I spent hours being interviewed
by detectives.
I told them the whole story
about John stealing the museum from me.
Everything I worked for for 46 years,
John stole it all.
Director: So how did John win the lawsuits
if this is all so clear?
The judge didn't believe me.
He believed John and his... one of his friends
Chrissy.
Director: Can you tell me about Steve?
Oh, Kanya?
Deceitful, manipulating
a fraud.
That guy has *ed over more people than I could count.
I interviewed Steve.
Director: And what did he tell you?
Steve said that John
basically stole the property from him,
stole the business from him,
but it... the facts are what the facts are.
We're taught how to question people
and we make our determinations
based on our training and our experience.
You could talk to somebody for five minutes and know
if they're being truthful with you.
Once it started becoming clear
that Steve was a tremendous
ding-a-ling of a human,
the creativity that Steve showed
in trying to explain
his misdoings was legendary.
It was... it was sad actually.
People lie to the police.
People, people spin their story
how they want it to sound.
Of course,
when you interview someone,
if they're not truthful to you, you know,
you're on the right track for the suspect.
I know for a certainty, he's a liar.
But in the beginning,
that wasn't what it was.
I remember early on,
when Steve walked me
through the place,
it was amazing because I saw
what he wanted me to see.
That guy could sell a haircut
to a barber.
My product is the pest control marker.
He said he was gonna be able to pay me a ton of money to come here
and help him, you know, re-envision
and rekindle the spirit of this place.
He's like, I'm gonna build a Butterfly Pavilion
and as soon as we get that thing open,
we're gonna have so much money,
we don't even know what to do with it.
And I was like, amazing.
He would allow you
to sort of partake in his vision.
And so when I first walked into the back warehouse,
and he says,
"This will be a Butterfly Pavilion,"
I'm like, "My gosh, imagine this glorious place."
This place had been going for 24 years.
I figured clearly Steve
knew what he was doing.
If he said that building this Butterfly Pavilion
was gonna drive a tremendous amount
of revenue, I was inclined to believe him.
And I was like, let's do it.
Steve needed assistance
in getting that off the ground.
John had formal training in the study of bugs.
And he was young and energetic,
and had new ideas
which attracted Steve.
I hire some friends,
we have artists, we
have ad coordinators,
and they're down here full time.
It's now just about six months later on
and we realized Steve didn't have a plan
for the Butterfly Pavilion.
He didn't have the money.
I had people leave other jobs
to come and be a part of this project.
Everything that I had been trying to work
for here is gonna crash and burn, like,
not today.
So, I proposed an alternative.
I said, "Steve, I'm not just gonna be a consultant",
I'm going to be a partner.
I'm going to go out and build a Butterfly Pavilion.
I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna find
"the money to build this Butterfly Pavilion."
Steve says, "Fine."
I went out and found all of the investment capital.
So along the way,
little things started happening,
checks would get deposited into the wrong account.
And at the time, I didn't have
the bandwidth to pay it much attention.
The creation process
was exactly chaos.
I was doing this in my head.
I designed the thing in Microsoft Paint.
And then we just built the Butterfly Pavilion.
But then roughly two months out from opening,
I found out that I had miscalculated
my entire budget by 20%,
and I'm flat broke.
But you don't come
this far to not finish.
You wouldn't believe.
Are you okay?
I'm on 48 hours.
So, I got two hundred plus thousand
dollars of high interest credit cards.
I maxed those credit cards.
It took us six months, $1.2 million,
and we built a 7,000 square foot facility.
I mean, we built that.
We built that.
It's the night of grand opening.
It's the 24th of February 2017.
Here we are, wow.
I was supremely happy.
It is like a rainforest.
We had the press,
we had politicians,
we did the cutting of the ribbon.
This was on a scale
that I had never dreamed of.
And then at the end of that night,
Chrissy runs upstairs and tells me,
"John, you gotta go talk to the admin staff,
uh, the money has been going into the wrong accounts again."
John alleged that Steve was embezzling from the company.
I'm looking at the front register.
And that's my credit card machine.
So what's this one?
Steve had been running purchases
through a non-corporate credit card machine which was dumping
into bank accounts that I didn't have access to
and couldn't see.
He was diverting, like, 50 plus thousand dollars
at a time when we're broke,
we don't have anything.
It's like, listen, you can't do that,
stealing, stop.
Is anything else going on?
John got his parents involved.
His father, I believe, is an attorney.
Looking into it, the public
record was full of all kinds of debt,
all kinds of mismanagement, and all kinds
of things that we weren't aware of.
And it was a real unfortunate situation.
Apparently,
Steve has been withholding
the Social Security and Medicaid payments
from the employees,
but then telling the federal government
that they made zero dollars.
It's a felony.
I mean, that's just flat out criminal.
And he's been doing it for years.
Turns out that the whole building
had over a million dollars of back taxes,
liens, and judgments on it,
which now was legally, my problem.
But it was over a short period of time
it went from
he's a very good businessman to...
There you go.
Oh, my God.
My-My favorite one, how the heck
did I miscalculate my budget by 20%?
Oh, I didn't, I didn't, it was, uh,
him submitting duplicate invoices,
except I didn't get to see
that second part of the money
that just went straight to Steve.
After everything came out
and we finally realized the scope,
I am sitting there
looking at all of these
landmines and saying to myself,
"Oh, my gosh, what do I do?"
In the confines of the laboratory cage, the two males fight.
Steve lied to me and had me
take over a million dollars
of debt on my head.
I got totally.
We called an outside attorney to come in there
and verify what's going on.
And this is all the evidence we got.
The other attorney was the one that really said...
You can't do this.
You can't come in the store.
You cannot... you cannot have any part of this.
I think this was the tipping point
in separating Steve's association
with the Insectarium.
And I believe that's when
the civil litigation was initiated.
There was a myriad of different court cases,
some of which we are still in and some of which
I've already started to wrap up.
Judge found Steve guilty
of fraud and embezzlement.
We've got over a million dollars
of judgments against Steve right now,
which are worthless
because the dude is extra broke.
I didn't come here to try and take over the museum.
All he had to do
was not * me
and everything would have been fine.
That's not what happened.
The result of that litigation
gave control of the Insectarium
and the Butterfly Pavilion
to John and his parents.
After Steve had been removed,
I not only moved into this place
because I didn't have any money.
I moved into this place
because I had to protect it at night.
Steve's people would come and lock our gates
and they would weld our gates shut.
It was very scary for a while.
So after the heist,
it would have been impossible for us
not to think that Steve was involved.
John indicated the heist
could have been Steve's doing
because of this civil litigation.
Steve certainly would have been happy
to see the museum hurt.
And you can't help but suspect the guy who's just spent,
you know, the last several years
trying to steal all the other things
when all of your insects go missing.
John thought that Steve
may have been responsible for the heist.
But if having been barred from the museum,
it didn't seem that he had
access to the building.
I think as soon as Steve walked on that property,
he would have been swarmed and never
would've had a chance to do anything.
You could say he had motive,
but I don't think he had means or opportunity.
At that point, Chris and Alison
were receiving intense scrutiny
from the authorities as suspects in this matter.
I needed to expand the search
to look at other employees
for any possible motive.
Your boy made it in Ripley's Believe It or Not!
Oh, look at that.
Kelvin had started as an intern
and worked his way into a permanent position
at the animal care unit.
Kelvin was one of those people
that wanted to be followed.
Please hit that subscribe button.
He gained fame by putting a bunch
of different types of inverts on his face.
Oh, Kelvin, Kelvin was great.
He understood bugs.
Director: What do you know about the heist at the insectarium?
I wasn't there the day it happened.
I can't personally say who did what,
who, you know what I mean?
I wasn't there.
I can't point any names.
I, I don't know.
I did hear that
when the heist was going on,
he kinda was, like, scared for some reason,
he quit.
In Kelvin's case,
the fact that he quit
right after the heist would set off
some bells to any investigator,
it would be a cause for concern.
Director: And what about Kinzler?
Who's this guy?
Kinzler is an unusual character.
Yo, Kinzler.
Coming down.
Yeah.
John: Kinzler...
I know, I know.
But, like... OSHA.
Hmm?
And now it's on camera.
Don't fg do that.
Kinzler: You said don't do it
when you are around.
Don't, don't do that.
Of all the employees,
Kinzler is the one
with a laundry list of past criminal charges.
I think cops are cool.
They just *
when they do their job with me.
We do complete backgrounds on people
where we look for commonalities between crimes.
One of those charges included
theft at his former employer.
And it was, uh, somewhat
similar to the bug heist.
We needed to take a much closer look
at that later on down the road.
But, then we got some new information.
At one of the interviews that was done,
we learned that there's, like, shows,
where they buy, sell, and trade bugs.
And sometimes these are connected
to the underworld of the bug market.
I thought there has to be
employees that were actively involved
in going to insect fairs and trading in bugs,
selling bugs, transporting bugs,
and so forth.
One individual stood out.
- Two things. - Director: Yeah.
Wlodek: One, I'm tired,
and two, I have a heavy Polish accent,
just to give you a heads up, okay?
I am Wlodzimie Lapkiewicz.
It's Wlodek for short, but Wlodzimie
is just my full name.
Wlodek was an employee of the Insectarium
and very, very involved in the hobby.
He had international contacts,
and was well known,
uh, at these markets and fairs
where, uh, bugs were sold.
Director: Did you know Steve Kanya?
Wlodek: Yes, so I keep in touch with Steve.
Director: You do now? Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I believe this is a critical connection to this case.
He was someone that,
uh, deserved a closer scrutiny.
Wlodek is actually quite well known around the world
for his abilities to keep
and breed specifically mantises.
He was a master of husbandry.
He had a couple other specialties also.
So he was the person I initially brought in
to help build up
the Insectarium's living collection.
He was really knowledgeable.
I like the guy.
He was really... he was... he was quirky,
uh, but he knew his stuff.
Wlodek: What John wanted is that
he wanted someone who
would know where to get insects from
and keep them alive,
So that was my job.
So from my personal collection,
I was bringing, like, in things like
tarantulas,
praying mantis,
Like, you know, stick insects.
I look over there and there's like
one Vietnamese stick insect.
That's nothing.
And then after like six months,
we had, like, hundreds of them because
I told the people
who were taking care of the insects,
you need to feed them this specific plant,
this is the amount of time that
they require to hatch,
or how many life stages they have.
And once I started working over there,
things started to
take shape because finally
they have someone who
has the proper knowledge to actually take care of all those
living animals over there.
Wlodek was one of the most knowledgeable people
I've ever met on the topic of insects.
We were very, very close.
We were very good friends,
he trained me.
He kind of took me under his wing
and really just showed me
how to run the place.
Insects were Wlodek's passion.
He was able to get his hands on
just about anything you could think of.
But there was no limit to him.
He liked to go out
and find what he wanted.
And it didn't matter if it was legal or not.
As great as a guy he is,
he did get into some legal trouble with insects.
Wlodek was involved
in the shady side of the hobby.
He would tell me
never to do what he was doing
to try to keep me as far away
from it as possible.
He did not want me
caught up in anything
that I didn't need to be caught up in.
Wlodek: So right now we are heading
to the Long Island reptile show.
And this reptile show is like twice a year.
Insect and reptile shows
are really shady.
It's more of a gathering to make it
look like it's all hunky-dory
and oh, this is all legal
and it's just a bunch of people
that are sharing their passion
and changing out
and their collection of this collection.
But majority of it is
completely illegal.
You'll have things
like tarantulas and scorpions
on top of the table.
And then you'll have things
like walking sticks
and praying mantis
that are illegal underneath the table.
Wlodek: It's here somewhere.
Yeah.
Oh nice.
Wlodek clearly knew this market,
the ins and outs and who to contact
to affect some of these sales.
He had a lot of stuff
that we weren't supposed to have.
And he would sell out before lunch
and make thousands of dollars.
We'd be packing up in the middle of the day
because he had sold everything.
He kept bringing in shipments
and then immediately
posting photos on Facebook.
I got these giant millipedes.
I got these Pandinus dictator scorpions
which are illegally smuggled out.
He kept making more and more posts.
From there, dealers have them sent in the mail.
That's how a lot of species
have come into the hobby.
They're almost all sent through the mail.
There's a constant discussion on the internet chat groups
about the term brown boxing.
It just means that it was brought
in without paperwork.
Brown boxing is illegal
and for good reason.
It will be shipped from overseas,
usually described as something
that would look similar on x-ray.
And then have the insects hidden
somewhere in that item.
He was buying and selling these bugs
using the US Mail.
It appeared that Wlodek
was making a substantial income
from this activity.
Wlodek kept bringing in shipments
from around the world.
I talked to him and I said,
"Look, you can't do this.
You can't keep bringing this stuff in.
You're gonna get caught."
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife
doesn't mess around,
they're on the boards,
you can't just flaunt
all the stuff that you're bringing in.
Okay, you ready?
My name is Ed Newcomer.
I'm a special agent with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
Trading on the internet,
buyer and seller beware.
We will come after you
and we will catch you
and we will put you in jail.
In my time with the FBI,
I worked on cases involving people
who smuggle specific items.
It could be cars,
it could be, artwork,
it could be jewelry,
any number of items.
But in dealing with the smuggling of exotic animals,
with bugs,
the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Agency
is the primary agency.
They are the experts.
This is their venue.
They know the ins and outs of the trade.
They deal with this all the time.
I know at one point,
different entities had been bought in.
There was acronyms of government agencies
that I had never even knew existed.
Different entities like game and wildlife
getting involved was a huge help to us to get us acclimated
and know what we are looking for.
We did a lot of research trying to learn
and you wind up on the internet for hours
like finding out
about the underworld of bugs.
I spent a lot of time
researching the market,
speaking to independent witnesses,
contacting universities, finding out
what these bugs could actually be worth.
There is and has long been
a black market in insects
all around the world.
It exists for a number of different reasons.
One, of course, is that there are
some stringent laws in many countries
that do not allow you to easily trade
or acquire different insect specimens.
In those cases, people are always willing
to circumvent those systems in place
to try and get illegal insects.
A Czech national has been fined $2,000
for allegedly trying to smuggle
thousands of insects.
Butterflies, targets
of an underground smuggling network.
Wildlife crime is a huge, huge business.
When it comes to describing the insect trade,
particularly the illegal trade,
it's, it's very diverse.
It could be very common insects
that are not threatened or endangered.
But there's also a lot of interest
among high-end collectors for very rare,
very unique insects,
many of which are protected by international treaty,
foreign laws or US federal law.
The trade in illegal wildlife
runs anywhere from 15 to 20 plus
billion dollars a year.
This is a rapidly escalating
illegal trade in wildlife products.
This is what people don't realize,
how widespread the illegal wildlife trade is.
I'm Jessica Speart,
writer.
And all I write about is wildlife
and endangered wildlife.
- Right. - I didn't even realize
it was such a major concern.
I didn't know either
until I started getting into this.
Everybody thinks of bugs
or butterflies as,
"What's the big deal?"
What they don't realize is there is
a huge criminal element to it.
Who would ever think that a beetle
could go for almost $100,000?
But it did.
Where there is so much money to be made,
there is going to be a criminal network.
Butterflies and bugs are right up there
with everything else.
Watch closely now,
this indescribably beautiful creation.
Butterflies in many countries are very valuable.
The sticker prices can be quite shocking.
When you start getting into the larger butterflies
that are listed as endangered,
you can literally get into the thousands
or tens of thousands of dollars.
I always do my research.
So we had learned
about the international trade
and the illegality of some of these insects
coming into the country
or going out of the country
or landed in private hands.
We came across the Yoshi Kojima
investigation
that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife
conducted several years ago.
That case was extremely helpful.
Although illegal trade in wildlife
isn't new,
the concept of butterfly smuggling
was brought to light a few years ago
with the arrest of Yoshi Kojima.
Jessica Speart went halfway around the world
to learn more about this elusive criminal.
I got a call from an agent
at Fish and Wildlife that I had worked with,
and he said, "We just did a case."
It's the craziest case we've ever done."
It is such a cat and mouse case.
It's on this guy Yoshi Kojima.
Yoshi Kojima is a notorious butterfly smuggler.
He made millions?
He made a lot of money.
He's been running rampant in the US for years,
has never gotten a penalty.
So Fish and Wildlife
held a grudge
and that's when they gave it to Ed.
This is where it all started.
Right, the Museum of Natural History
is the first place I met Yoshi.
The occasion?
The museum's 2003 Bug Festival.
Newcomer introduced himself to Kojima
as a rookie collector.
It also started the relationship critical to this stain.
Kojima wanted to meet with me
and actually outlined a scheme
where he would send protected butterflies
to me in the United States.
And I would facilitate putting them
on eBay and selling them that way.
And then we would share in the profits.
I knew immediately that the only reason
he wanted my involvement
was if Fish and Wildlife Service or any
other law enforcement agency came calling,
he was setting me up to take the fall.
That was clear.
Yoshi was very nice to Ed
because Ed was young,
had no history in the insect trade.
And so Yoshi decides maybe
they should go into business together,
but they're gonna do it on Skype.
Everybody knows
you're the number one smuggler.
Yoshi: That's true.
Over a period of months,
while we were talking on Skype almost nightly,
it was very clear that he had developed an attraction to me,
almost a junior high school crush.
And that's when it really opened the door
to the illegal butterfly sales
between him to me.
Yoshi: You can see right?
Yeah.
During that time,
he had offered to sell me
approximately $300,000
worth of protected butterflies.
What were you saying about cash and not,
not having a bank and checks?
Yoshi: You must be careful.
Have no evidence. Give cash.
Oh, you mean like Fish and Wildlife
would have evidence.
Yeah.
In the end, we amassed a great case against him.
Multiple 13 or 14 count indictment,
all felonies,
and we were able to obtain an arrest warrant.
Now we have to get our hands on Kojima,
who's in Japan.
I realized if I promised him a date,
it would be one more reason for him to wanna come to the United States.
Yoshi: Can I take your picture?
Do me a favor
can I see your
beautiful thing.
Then I can sleep tonight.
Not until you come to LA.
Oh, okay.
Now, I also owed him several thousand dollars.
Which certainly didn't hurt.
So that put him on a plane
and as soon as he arrived in Los Angeles,
we arrested him.
Kojima pled guilty to multiple felonies
including smuggling
and is serving 21 months behind bars.
Though if he's smart, he'll come up
with a better story for his cellmate.
They arrest him,
Ed walks in and Yoshi thinks,
"Oh, my God, reset my bail."
And then he realizes who Ed is
and shows him the badge,
"You were Fish and Wildlife all this time."
"Yeah."
He sees the wedding ring,
"You were married all this time?"
"Yeah."
And to Yoshi,
I think it was the ultimate betrayal
and in a sense, it broke his heart.
Ed's case got a lot of publicity
because it was such an unusual case.
Several years later,
I received an email from a guy
who said that he had visited Kojima in Japan.
He didn't think Kojima was involved
in the insect collection business anymore.
But there is always somebody else
dealing in illegal insects.
It's extremely important in this investigation
to identify and understand
who are the players
in the international bug trade today.
This is no different than, you know, trying to get inside
the mind of a bank robber, all right.
He thinks a certain way.
He's looking for certain things.
Who else is a distributor of those items?
And can they lead us to a suspect?
That's another one.
Oh, goodie.
The wildlife trade is an exercise in Whac-A-Mole,
we will focus on
and take out major traffickers.
You're always gonna have poaching,
you're always gonna have trafficking,
we're always gonna have Kojimas.
All insects in the world have a price
the more difficult it is to get,
the more dangerous,
the more illegal,
the price goes up.
Watch this.
Dealing with any type of stolen
commodity, you have a thief
who actually does the crime,
and then he brings it to
an intermediary or a fence.
We're looking for people that
have a facility that can maintain them,
have the expertise to maintain them
while they're waiting to be bought,
and also the ability
to send them surreptitiously,
a person with a history of dealing
in this type of commodity.
Yeah. My name is Steve Lamond.
I built this museum
in the Daintree Rainforest.
I'm an insect dealer.
I collect them myself,
I catch them myself,
and also I do scientific research.
Director: And what do you classify yourself as?
Are you a smuggler?
Museum director.
Where do I stand?
I deal with every sort of insect.
Beetles, butterflies, dragonflies,
the world's largest cockroach.
I probably have 100,000 insects
on display here.
I've been to 60 countries.
This collection's probably worth
half a million dollars.
So this is the world's largest beetle here.
This is Titanus giganteus.
A very giant one
I saw at the Paris Insect Fair,
$50,000 it sold for.
Dragonfly.
Mature, we might as well keep him.
My name is Dan Lamond.
And this is where we
keep a number of insects
and bring a lot of our stock back to and operate out of.
See anything?
In terms of how the whole bug world
seems to work, he's the man,
he knows exactly how to get everything done.
Put the ladder up there.
Well, I'm not going on this ladder.
This is the world's worst ladder.
You just break both your legs.
Shut up and do it.
Director: And how much is a bug like that worth?
Where are we? Are we in Australia now
or are we in Tokyo
or are we in America or where?
Insects have a different price in every country in the world.
I'll let this one go?
Yeah.
If it's not rare, it has no value.
Director: So you were saying that
most of the black market these days is
wait, what's that butterfly behind you,
the purple one?
That's that Ulysses, a protected one,
hundred and thirty bucks a pair in Tokyo.
Director: You just gotta get it there, huh?
Oh, here's a goodie.
There's another one.
In the illegal bug trade, the prices
are whatever the market could bear.
These are Queen Victoria's bird wings here.
If you wanna collect these,
you have to have a lot of money.
In the 1980s, no one had
sold these for over 40 years
before I've gone to Solomon Islands.
They were worth about 600 to 900 a pair.
Director: So you were buying these for two bucks a pair,
and then selling them for $900?
Yeah. It wasn't bad.
Wasn't that easy to do either.
Sometimes I go to Tokyo
with a suitcase full.
Maybe I get a hundred grand after a month.
A lot of money was going through my fingers.
But I had big expenses.
We're just spending all our money
going to a new strange country.
So it never ends
if you do this.
This was a very secretive industry.
I'd only meet people at the insect fairs
in the world and only write letters.
The birth of the internet changed all that.
I got some messages.
Yeah. All right.
This bug's after an assortment of brown.
All right.
Yeah, these days,
most of the communications
are just email or WhatsApp
because then we just thought
more efficient, send photos easy.
You know, in the good old days,
nothing was illegal.
It was open slather in the whole world.
It's so difficult now,
all these permits.
Anyway they're not on their property.
We'll do whatever we like here.
Oh, no, no, no.
I got a message about a heist in Philadelphia
where they pinched a heap of mainly live stuff.
Live, it must have been a hobbyist.
It's probably an inside job.
- Ah. - Something like that I'd say.
Steve, Dan,
nice to meet you.
- Steve: Yeah, yeah. - Dan: Likewise.
Say if we, we go by the theory
that this was an inside job,
what type of employees are we looking at?
Steve: You have to know how to feed them
and look after them.
So, it's obviously someone
who's keeping them.
Would we be looking for someone
that say has a history of trafficking
in these types of animals?
Dan: For someone to steal
this quantity of insects,
they would have to have a plan to get rid
of them and move them fast.
And someone who has that kind of plan
would definitely be on the radar of authorities.
Because, need to have the experience
and have been in the game
for a while to formulate such a plan.
Based off that conversation,
I needed to take a harder look
at employees at the museum
who fit that profile.
Kelvin, had a very clear passion
for working with bugs.
But based on further investigation,
we were able to rule Kelvin out.
It became apparent that Kelvin
had worked several different jobs,
and he had an alibi showing that he was working
at another employment at the time.
Kinzler seemed to have full access at the Insectarium
and had run-ins with the law in the past.
But it turns out most of the charges
from the other robbery were dropped.
And it didn't seem like this guy
had the wherewithal
That left Wlodek and we found out
that Wlodek had a pending plea
in federal court
for illegal trafficking of certain insects
here in the United States.
And that became a key part
of the puzzle.
Director: Hello? Wlodek?
Wlodek: Hey. What's up?
Director: Hey, how's it going?
Wlodek: Ehhh, it's okay.
I know that there's still some people who
like, you know, they see what I did to be
bad.
So they're just keeping their distance
because they don't want to get in trouble.
And there are certain people
who are just thinking that, like
one bad apple, that means that now
there's more bad apples.
And now, you know, like... um...
Fish and Wildlife,
they may be still probing,
hoping that, "Oh, we're just waiting
for him to do something stupid,
and then, we can capture him in the act, right? A-ha!"
Or maybe they're just still thinking,
"Oh, as long as we're keeping this case going along,
then maybe he can talk to some other people.
And then, we can get them, you know,
to be captured too,"
know what I mean?
I just really don't want to have any extra witnesses.
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We're getting a look at new surveillance video...
I went to the police with the video footage.
Were you ever ordering things from other countries?
It became evident that Wlodek left the Insectarium
under some murky circumstances.
Some shady stuff was going on.
When Wlodek left,
Chris took over his job.
Chris was caught smuggling
and selling exotic species.
They seemed kind of dark.
And then I received that phone call.