WEBVTT 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:22.680 Let's go. 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:27.239 But first, we cross to court reporter Ben tan, 00:01:27.240 --> 00:01:29.319 who's outside the parramatta supreme court 00:01:29.320 --> 00:01:31.039 for the first day of a murder trial 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:33.399 that not everyone agrees is a murder. 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:34.599 Good morning to you, Ben. 00:01:34.600 --> 00:01:35.759 That's right, Lexie, 00:01:35.760 --> 00:01:37.439 legal opinion is fiercely divided 00:01:37.440 --> 00:01:40.159 on whether the charges against Kate Lawson 00:01:40.160 --> 00:01:42.639 should have made it through the committal process, 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:45.479 with some academics and even a retired judge 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:47.759 claiming the case has no merit. 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:50.479 And Ben, I believe the family are also divided. 00:01:50.480 --> 00:01:54.000 They are, Lexie, and they've been very public in their disagreements. 00:02:14.880 --> 00:02:18.599 Photographic artist, Kate Lawson, accused of killing her niece, 00:02:18.600 --> 00:02:22.319 has been in custody since breaching her bail conditions last year. 00:02:22.320 --> 00:02:24.639 Her defence argue that without a body, 00:02:24.640 --> 00:02:26.399 the prosecution cannot prove 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:30.639 beyond a reasonable doubt that 14-year-old Claire Spears is dead. 00:02:30.640 --> 00:02:32.639 The case, which has shocked the nation, 00:02:32.640 --> 00:02:34.199 will go to trial this week, 00:02:34.200 --> 00:02:36.799 with a jury set to be sworn in today. 00:02:37.920 --> 00:02:39.999 Mr Spears, any comment? 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:42.839 Mr Spears, will you put your faith in a jury? 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:00.759 Could I just get your bag, please? 00:03:00.760 --> 00:03:01.800 Thanks. 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:11.800 Mr Colby. 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:17.440 Thank you, sheriff. 00:03:30.160 --> 00:03:31.440 Good morning. Good morning. 00:03:33.480 --> 00:03:35.199 Good morning, Kate. Morning. 00:03:35.200 --> 00:03:37.440 Pastries, from your sister. 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:40.519 Did you bring my... 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:41.920 I did. Right here. 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:50.759 Might I suggest, this is a slightly more jury-friendly shade, you know? 00:03:50.760 --> 00:03:53.719 Anyway, have a pastry, then take these. 00:03:53.720 --> 00:03:54.760 They'll help. 00:03:57.520 --> 00:03:58.799 They've already given me my meds. 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:00.679 Who's they? 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:02.639 The prison psychiatrist. 00:04:02.640 --> 00:04:04.479 And you've taken them? 00:04:04.480 --> 00:04:05.799 'Cause last report, 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:10.119 I had mentioned something about self-harm. 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:12.079 Do I need to worry? How are you feeling? 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:13.959 They've put me in with child murderers 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:16.159 for my own protection. 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:19.359 Being depressed is a pretty normal response to that. 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:21.479 Fair enough. 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:23.279 Anyway, these are just beta-blockers. 00:04:23.280 --> 00:04:27.119 They'll... they'll keep you calm in the dock, you know? 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.279 They're my son's pills. They're for stage fright. 00:04:29.280 --> 00:04:30.600 I don't want them. 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:33.839 Ezekiel, are you sure that 00:04:33.840 --> 00:04:35.999 they're not going to bring up what we spoke about? 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:37.879 Don't worry, Kate. We've dealt with that. 00:04:37.880 --> 00:04:40.879 Put it out of your mind now. 00:04:40.880 --> 00:04:43.559 Kate, listen to me. 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:44.999 From here on, 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:49.599 the most important thing is how you appear to the jury. 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:51.199 Your look, your behaviour... 00:04:51.200 --> 00:04:52.440 But this is my look. 00:04:54.200 --> 00:04:55.399 This is... 00:04:55.400 --> 00:04:57.239 This is my behaviour. They'll be watching you. 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:00.359 They'll be forming opinions. 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:04.839 Show emotion, that's fine, but above all, no histrionics. 00:05:04.840 --> 00:05:06.080 Do you understand? 00:05:10.320 --> 00:05:11.360 Boo. 00:05:17.320 --> 00:05:19.719 I just wish she'd come back. 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:20.960 Well, we all wish that. 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:23.600 But Kate. 00:05:25.520 --> 00:05:27.880 The jury is everything. 00:05:38.280 --> 00:05:40.160 Would the defendant please stand? 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:45.439 Kate Dawson, you are indicted 00:05:45.440 --> 00:05:49.839 by that name that you, on 14 September 2019, 00:05:49.840 --> 00:05:52.519 at castlecrag, in the state of new south wales, 00:05:52.520 --> 00:05:54.919 did murder Claire Spears. 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:57.759 How say you? Are you guilty or not guilty? 00:05:57.760 --> 00:05:58.960 Not guilty. 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:06.719 Members of the jury panel, if your number's drawn, 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:08.999 please stand and make your way to the jury box, 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:11.360 and if challenged, please return to your seat. 00:06:14.320 --> 00:06:17.000 6-1-1-0-8. 00:06:30.760 --> 00:06:32.600 6-1-2-5-4. 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:44.199 Challenge. 00:06:44.200 --> 00:06:46.200 If you could return to your seat please, madam. 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.480 6-1-2-1-6. 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:02.960 6-1-1-1-3. 00:07:05.320 --> 00:07:07.439 6-1-0-4-5. 00:07:07.440 --> 00:07:09.199 6-1-2-3-3. 00:07:09.200 --> 00:07:11.000 6-1-0-7-9. 00:07:11.740 --> 00:07:13.580 6-1-1-2-9. 00:07:17.780 --> 00:07:20.379 Challenge. 00:07:20.380 --> 00:07:22.100 You're excused from the court, madam. 00:07:24.580 --> 00:07:26.620 6-1-0-2-2. 00:07:34.900 --> 00:07:36.099 Challenge. 00:07:36.100 --> 00:07:37.499 You have no further challenges, 00:07:37.500 --> 00:07:39.659 unless you're making a challenge with cause, madam crown. 00:07:39.660 --> 00:07:41.499 His t-shirt, your honour. 00:07:41.500 --> 00:07:43.699 Yeah, sorry, I forgot the t-shirt said that. 00:07:43.700 --> 00:07:45.739 That's why I turned it inside out before I came in. 00:07:45.740 --> 00:07:47.379 I see. Thank you for explaining. 00:07:47.380 --> 00:07:49.219 Are you willing to respect the decorum 00:07:49.220 --> 00:07:51.179 of the court in this trial? 00:07:51.180 --> 00:07:52.339 Yes, sir. 00:07:52.340 --> 00:07:53.459 Thank you. 00:07:53.460 --> 00:07:54.620 Join the jury. 00:07:59.420 --> 00:08:01.500 6-1-0-7-2. 00:08:05.380 --> 00:08:07.699 I thought that he said they were only going to choose 12? 00:08:07.700 --> 00:08:09.419 They said there'd be two additional jurors, 00:08:09.420 --> 00:08:11.340 just in case the trial takes a few months. 00:08:13.900 --> 00:08:15.980 6-1-0-1-7. 00:08:26.140 --> 00:08:27.460 Number 0-1-7? 00:08:41.020 --> 00:08:44.260 For those of you who are taking the affirmation, please rise. 00:08:49.220 --> 00:08:51.939 Do you solemnly and sincerely declare 00:08:51.940 --> 00:08:54.459 and affirm that you will give a true verdict, 00:08:54.460 --> 00:08:56.099 according to the evidence? 00:08:56.100 --> 00:08:58.619 If so, please say 'i do.' 00:08:58.620 --> 00:08:59.780 I do. 00:09:17.300 --> 00:09:21.059 How do you know whether to take an oath or an affirmation? 00:09:21.060 --> 00:09:24.739 People who are not christians don't take an oath on the Bible. 00:09:24.740 --> 00:09:26.979 And it's binding, regardless. 00:09:26.980 --> 00:09:29.139 Sorry. Excuse me, sorry. 00:09:29.140 --> 00:09:30.339 Sorry. 00:09:30.340 --> 00:09:32.459 Do you know, if there is 14 of us, 00:09:32.460 --> 00:09:34.979 do we all have to stay until the end of the trial? 00:09:34.980 --> 00:09:37.579 No idea. Well, we do. 00:09:37.580 --> 00:09:39.859 If there are still 14 at the end, 00:09:39.860 --> 00:09:42.859 then we each take a ballot to see which 12 get to vote. 00:09:42.860 --> 00:09:45.059 Does anyone know if we can use phones during the trial? 00:09:45.060 --> 00:09:47.539 Says no in the information booklet. 00:09:47.540 --> 00:09:48.859 I've got a business to run. 00:09:50.760 --> 00:09:54.799 They never found her body, right? 00:09:54.800 --> 00:09:58.439 Oh, should we introduce ourselves? 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:01.159 Trevor. We can stay anonymous. 00:10:01.160 --> 00:10:02.519 Isn't that what they said? 00:10:02.520 --> 00:10:03.759 Yeah. 00:10:03.760 --> 00:10:05.119 Maybe we should stay anonymous. 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:07.799 We don't have to give surnames. 00:10:09.520 --> 00:10:11.839 Well, it's up to the group. 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:14.759 Well, we're humans, not numbers. 00:10:14.760 --> 00:10:15.880 I'm Vanessa. 00:10:18.040 --> 00:10:20.519 Simon. 00:10:20.520 --> 00:10:22.759 Margaret. 00:10:22.760 --> 00:10:25.239 Peter. 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:27.079 I'm corrie. 00:10:27.080 --> 00:10:28.319 I'm garry. 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:31.599 Hey, you look familiar. You're not from glebe, are you? 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:33.919 Parramatta. 00:10:33.920 --> 00:10:36.599 Alexi. Hi. 00:10:36.600 --> 00:10:38.559 Farrad. 00:10:38.560 --> 00:10:39.919 Jarrod. Hey. 00:10:39.920 --> 00:10:42.199 Farrad and jarrod. 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:44.159 My name's Lily. 00:10:44.160 --> 00:10:46.879 I don't want to give my name. 00:10:46.880 --> 00:10:50.719 Can we just call you number eight? 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:51.919 Suits me. 00:10:51.920 --> 00:10:53.440 Mel. Hi. 00:10:56.600 --> 00:10:58.559 Georgina. Hi. 00:10:58.560 --> 00:11:01.199 Anyone else feel like they're at a 12-step meeting? 00:11:01.420 --> 00:11:02.879 At least we're getting paid for it, though. 00:11:02.980 --> 00:11:04.619 106 bucks and change a day. 00:11:04.620 --> 00:11:07.139 It costs me ten times that. 00:11:07.140 --> 00:11:10.420 Maybe we should just go over the rules again. 00:11:14.420 --> 00:11:17.619 So we can't make any inquiries outside the courtroom, 00:11:17.620 --> 00:11:19.539 which means we can't Google anything, 00:11:19.540 --> 00:11:22.139 read any media coverage on the case, visit the scene of the crime... 00:11:22.140 --> 00:11:23.659 How do they police that? 00:11:23.660 --> 00:11:25.979 I don't know but it says here it's a criminal offence, 00:11:25.980 --> 00:11:28.499 so I probably wouldn't do it. 00:11:28.500 --> 00:11:30.819 And it's the responsibility of jurors 00:11:30.820 --> 00:11:33.139 to report misconduct of another jury member. 00:11:33.140 --> 00:11:34.259 Like what? 00:11:34.260 --> 00:11:38.539 That's if we find out someone's been looking up the case on the Internet. 00:11:38.540 --> 00:11:41.259 Or if we're discussing it with the media. 00:11:41.260 --> 00:11:44.779 So any volunteers to be jury foreman? 00:11:44.780 --> 00:11:45.820 Foreperson. 00:11:47.820 --> 00:11:49.059 I'll do it. 00:11:49.060 --> 00:11:50.419 Anyone else? 00:11:50.420 --> 00:11:52.219 I'm happy to do it too. 00:11:52.220 --> 00:11:54.099 Too slow. You snooze, you lose. 00:11:54.100 --> 00:11:55.939 There are two takers. We'll vote. 00:11:55.940 --> 00:11:58.859 All in favour of corrie, wasn't it? 00:11:58.860 --> 00:12:00.539 Corrie, yeah. Say aye. 00:12:00.540 --> 00:12:01.899 Aye. Aye. 00:12:01.900 --> 00:12:03.339 Aye. Aye. 00:12:03.340 --> 00:12:04.459 She's got it. 00:12:04.460 --> 00:12:06.539 It's cool. If you'd like to do it, you should do it. 00:12:06.540 --> 00:12:08.139 You had your hand up first. 00:12:08.140 --> 00:12:10.180 I was only offering you a way out. 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:15.680 Jamie, we're home! 00:13:17.800 --> 00:13:19.839 Hello. 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:21.079 Dad. Dad. 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:22.239 Oh, hey! 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:23.879 Oh, my goodness, there's way too much love in this room. 00:13:23.880 --> 00:13:26.199 Argh. Just get off me, you little monsters. Get off. 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:27.719 Alice, go start your piano practice. 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:30.359 I'll come help you in a sec. Ok? Come on, boys. 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:31.679 Come and play minecraft. 00:13:31.680 --> 00:13:32.559 Hey. 00:13:32.680 --> 00:13:35.759 Oh, how was the jury duty thing? Did you get out of it? 00:13:35.760 --> 00:13:37.519 Yeah. 00:13:37.520 --> 00:13:38.679 They let you off? 00:13:38.680 --> 00:13:39.839 Yep. 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:42.279 Great work, George. 00:13:42.280 --> 00:13:43.639 Did you wear what I suggested? 00:13:43.640 --> 00:13:45.479 Yeah, I looked like a hooker. 00:13:58.680 --> 00:14:01.039 Hey, Alexi, I know it's your weekend, 00:14:01.040 --> 00:14:02.439 but Dan has a few days off 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:04.439 and we're thinking of taking the girls camping. 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:07.839 So if we could do a handover tomorrow instead, that'd be great. 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:09.120 Let me know. 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:28.239 Nice of you to show up, bro. 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:30.639 Told you, I've got jury duty. 00:14:30.640 --> 00:14:32.999 What excuse did you give 'em? 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:34.719 None. 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:36.799 Sorry? 00:14:36.800 --> 00:14:39.279 I'm on the jury. 00:14:39.280 --> 00:14:43.199 What, so I'm working my * off doing two jobs, 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.279 and you're swanning around, calling yourself the ceo? 00:14:46.280 --> 00:14:48.199 * that. 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:50.279 Does Helen know you're sitting here getting pissed? 00:14:50.280 --> 00:14:52.359 I might be a little bit pissed, alright, 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:54.039 but someone's gotta do the paperwork. 00:14:54.040 --> 00:14:57.319 Someone's gotta do this, or we might spook the buyers. 00:14:57.320 --> 00:14:59.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll be ready, don't worry. 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:05.520 Alright, this can wait. I'm taking you home. 00:15:09.160 --> 00:15:11.759 New south wales police have issued an Amber alert 00:15:11.760 --> 00:15:13.639 for a 14-year-old schoolgirl, 00:15:13.640 --> 00:15:16.159 missing from Sydney's northern suburbs. 00:15:16.160 --> 00:15:18.319 Claire Spears, a border 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:20.639 at the exclusive Norwich ladies college 00:15:20.640 --> 00:15:23.319 was last seen by her aunt. 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:25.759 Police are appealing for public assistance 00:15:25.760 --> 00:15:30.239 to locate a 14-year-old schoolgirl missing on Sydney's north shore. 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:31.679 Claire Spears was... 00:15:31.680 --> 00:15:33.119 Are not you meant to be not watching any of this? 00:15:34.760 --> 00:15:36.519 Police have made a shock breakthrough 00:15:36.520 --> 00:15:38.359 in the Claire Spears case, 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:42.159 today arresting her aunt after a six-week investigation 00:15:42.160 --> 00:15:43.759 into the schoolgirl's disappearance. 00:15:43.760 --> 00:15:45.399 Claire, if you're listening to this 00:15:45.400 --> 00:15:48.919 we just want you to come home safely, sweetheart. 00:15:48.920 --> 00:15:49.920 We love you. 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:55.440 This is what mum doesn't want you to see. 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:02.559 5pm and she hasn't moved since breakfast. 00:16:02.560 --> 00:16:03.679 What are you doing? 00:16:03.680 --> 00:16:05.559 Prepping for family therapy. 00:16:05.560 --> 00:16:07.680 Oh, don't be a *. 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:11.839 I know, right? 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:12.840 It's pathetic. 00:16:33.280 --> 00:16:36.319 Do you ever feel she's still out there, 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:39.680 watching this whole * circus? 00:16:45.560 --> 00:16:46.560 Maybe. 00:17:11.600 --> 00:17:13.519 Good to know you're on jury duty. 00:17:13.520 --> 00:17:15.439 Now I know you're on the electoral roll. 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:18.239 Is this the Kate Lawson trial? Yeah. 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:20.279 Ooh! When does it start? 00:17:20.280 --> 00:17:21.359 Today. 00:17:21.360 --> 00:17:22.700 And this won't stop you coming 00:17:22.701 --> 00:17:24.041 to my night classes? 00:17:24.040 --> 00:17:25.959 Night? Two nights a week, 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:27.719 that's how the part-timers do the course 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:28.839 when they're working full time. 00:17:28.840 --> 00:17:30.279 Well, what if I can't? 00:17:30.280 --> 00:17:33.359 You have won the Stewart scholarship. 00:17:33.360 --> 00:17:35.199 Jarrod, that's a privilege. 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:38.119 I'm not, not motivated, I just... Ok, great. 00:17:38.120 --> 00:17:40.559 Let me put it like this, then. 00:17:40.560 --> 00:17:44.999 There has been a history of kids like you letting me down, 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:46.919 it is pretty disappointing. 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:48.640 My tolerance level is this high. 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:51.960 You can still buck the trend. 00:17:52.460 --> 00:17:55.139 Today marks the first day of proceedings 00:17:55.140 --> 00:17:57.459 in the controversial trial of Kate Lawson, 00:17:57.460 --> 00:18:00.699 which is expected to last ten weeks or more. 00:18:00.700 --> 00:18:03.299 One high court justice has slammed... 00:18:03.300 --> 00:18:06.139 Yeah. So I'm trying to line up one of the school mums 00:18:06.140 --> 00:18:07.299 for the pick-up, 00:18:07.300 --> 00:18:11.339 but I just can't ask them to do it for weeks on end, you know. 00:18:11.340 --> 00:18:13.300 Well, I don't have enough brownie points. 00:18:13.860 --> 00:18:15.660 Alright. Thanks, Gabby. 00:18:17.900 --> 00:18:19.180 Slightly different vibe today. 00:18:21.020 --> 00:18:24.179 You were hoping they weren't going to pick you, right? 00:18:24.180 --> 00:18:28.420 Yeah, well, bummer for you. They don't mind a hot mess. 00:18:39.180 --> 00:18:41.419 Morning, bloom. Don't * it up. 00:18:41.420 --> 00:18:42.940 * you too, Colby. 00:18:47.660 --> 00:18:48.939 You don't have to be here. 00:18:48.940 --> 00:18:51.699 We're not going to call you for weeks. 00:18:51.700 --> 00:18:54.859 I can't be anywhere else. 00:18:54.860 --> 00:18:55.940 Ok. 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:00.920 Would the defendant please rise? 00:19:26.560 --> 00:19:30.679 Claire Spears was 14 years old when she was murdered 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:31.880 by Kate Lawson... 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:35.160 ..And her body dumped. 00:19:36.760 --> 00:19:39.040 She was strangled with her own school tie. 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:46.839 We know from Claire's social media that she was a bright young girl, 00:19:46.840 --> 00:19:50.239 blossoming with life and talent... 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:53.119 ..Vibrant, beautiful, 00:19:53.120 --> 00:19:57.119 embracing the promise of her future. 00:19:57.120 --> 00:19:58.720 But all of this was taken away. 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:03.919 She was seduced into * role-playing, 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:07.999 becoming an object of obsession in Kate Lawson's artwork. 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:13.199 Artwork that graphically depicts an adult grooming, exploiting 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:18.280 and ultimately murdering a child that Kate had the duty to protect. 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:21.919 We will show evidence 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:26.119 that Kate Lawson dragged Claire's dead body through the bush 00:20:26.120 --> 00:20:28.679 and dumped her in Sydney harbour. 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:32.719 It's the only reasonable explanation to fit the facts. 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:36.759 Claire was loved by her family, adored by her friends, 00:20:36.760 --> 00:20:39.639 followed by a dedicated online community 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:43.199 all who threw their hearts into searching for the missing girl. 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:45.599 And while her loved ones looked for her, 00:20:45.600 --> 00:20:48.999 Kate Lawson covered her tracks. 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:51.039 Conscious of her own guilt, 00:20:51.040 --> 00:20:54.279 she went to extraordinary lengths, destroying evidence 00:20:54.280 --> 00:20:56.919 and lying to the police. 00:20:56.920 --> 00:20:59.840 Leaving Claire's mother, Diane... 00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:05.159 ..Eternally trapped in ambiguous grief, 00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:06.679 a grief with no answers... 00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:08.439 Your honour. 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:11.640 I have a matter to raise in the absence of the jury. 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:17.879 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, from time to time matters arise 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:21.399 and I need to speak to the crown and defence counsel alone. 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:24.319 So I'll ask you to retire to the jury room 00:21:24.320 --> 00:21:26.479 and wait until you're recalled. 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:28.479 I hope it won't be too long. 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:29.840 Thank you. 00:21:38.600 --> 00:21:40.479 So what, they just send us in here 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:41.999 when they don't want us to hear something? 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:43.159 Yeah, looks that way. 00:21:43.160 --> 00:21:46.319 What do they not want us to hear, the truth? 00:21:46.320 --> 00:21:48.519 Judging by how they reacted, 00:21:48.520 --> 00:21:51.679 she must have mentioned things prejudicial to the case. 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:53.019 Since when does the law 00:21:53.020 --> 00:21:54.360 care about being prejudiced, mate? 00:21:54.360 --> 00:21:56.039 Hm. She's had a privileged life. 00:21:56.040 --> 00:21:57.759 Who? Kate, the killer. 00:21:57.760 --> 00:22:00.559 I don't think we're meant to see her as a killer just yet. 00:22:00.560 --> 00:22:03.279 Yeah, nah, I'm kidding. 00:22:03.280 --> 00:22:04.359 Keep an open mind. 00:22:04.360 --> 00:22:07.839 It's intriguing how it all works, isn't it? 00:22:07.840 --> 00:22:09.959 Yeah... 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:11.399 ..But also daunting. 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:13.759 Guilty, not guilty. 00:22:13.760 --> 00:22:15.919 What if we can't decide? 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:17.200 I think I already know. 00:22:20.280 --> 00:22:23.439 Best I keep my thoughts to myself, I think, 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:26.039 at least till we've heard all the evidence. 00:22:26.040 --> 00:22:29.999 The phrase used was "ambiguous grief." 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:32.119 My learned friend is, in effect, 00:22:32.120 --> 00:22:34.919 making a victim's impact statement in her opening address. 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:37.199 I'll ask the jury to disregard those words, 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:39.639 and madam crown, aim for relevant and probative. 00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:40.759 Yes, your honour. 00:22:40.760 --> 00:22:42.799 And speaking of probative, 00:22:42.800 --> 00:22:45.999 your honour has already ruled that the artwork cannot be used 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:48.679 to suggest a tendency to murder... And I didn't. 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:51.639 The artworks are evidence that Kate groomed Claire, 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:54.999 instructing her in the auto-erotic asphyxiation technique 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:56.039 that killed her. 00:22:56.040 --> 00:22:57.559 Mr Colby, I agree with madam crown here 00:22:57.560 --> 00:22:59.519 but I warn you, ms bloom, it's a very fine line. 00:22:59.520 --> 00:23:00.879 Understood, your honour. 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:02.479 And we'll resume after lunch. 00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:03.959 And as per my previous ruling, 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:06.279 you will not mention the historical crime 00:23:06.280 --> 00:23:09.960 or reference excluded material, no matter how nuanced. 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:23.719 Hey. 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:26.720 Did you have any problem getting out of work or uni? 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:33.879 I mean, do they really expect us not to Google the case? 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:35.839 I think we have to try and avoid it. 00:23:35.840 --> 00:23:38.599 Yeah, but it's been in the news for years already. 00:23:38.600 --> 00:23:40.719 Members of the jury? 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:42.680 Judge has decided to resume after lunch. 00:23:44.520 --> 00:23:46.999 You told me they wouldn't be able to use any of that against me. 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:49.159 The old story won't come up, 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:53.519 but the judge is allowing your artwork as evidence of context. 00:23:53.520 --> 00:23:55.159 There's nothing we can do about that. 00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:56.399 *! 00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:59.119 Kate, this is exactly what we have to avoid. 00:23:59.120 --> 00:24:00.959 You can't get upset like this... Did you see their... 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:02.679 Did you see their faces? The jury? 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:04.399 Did you see their faces? Yes, the jury. 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:05.839 They hate me. Kate... 00:24:05.840 --> 00:24:06.919 They... they * hate me. 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:08.519 Listen, Kate. I've been watching. 00:24:08.520 --> 00:24:10.439 Nobody hates you, ok? 00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:13.679 Now you just need to trust the process. 00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:14.680 Hm? 00:24:17.520 --> 00:24:19.599 Anyone like a fork? Thanks. 00:24:19.600 --> 00:24:22.479 I do understand what you're saying, Simon. I do. 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:24.639 Parramatta? Yeah. 00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:26.399 Near there. Yeah, I'm out that way. 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:28.639 I worked a big job site at camellia a couple of years. 00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:30.079 Camellia? Yeah. 00:24:30.080 --> 00:24:31.399 Don't know where that is. 00:24:31.400 --> 00:24:35.039 Oh, hey. Do you go to the horse races? 00:24:35.040 --> 00:24:36.079 Sometimes. 00:24:36.080 --> 00:24:38.679 So that's where I recognise you from, Rose hill. 00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:39.680 Maybe. 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:42.799 It's a yes or no answer. 00:24:45.600 --> 00:24:47.359 You should be aware. 00:24:47.360 --> 00:24:48.920 There'll be things you don't want to know when I get on the stand. 00:24:48.921 --> 00:24:50.481 Ok. 00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:52.519 Claire's nickname for you will probably come up. 00:24:52.520 --> 00:24:57.319 She called you 'puttana siciliana'. 00:24:57.320 --> 00:24:59.559 If they ask, I'm going to have to answer honestly. 00:24:59.560 --> 00:25:02.959 That's enough, Diane. No, no, no, I'm being genuine. 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:05.320 I just want you to know it's not personal. 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:07.880 It's just the truth. 00:25:10.040 --> 00:25:12.519 They'll bring up the fact you never paid child support, too. 00:25:12.520 --> 00:25:13.879 Yeah, right. 00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:16.079 Well, if it is all about the truth then I hope 00:25:16.080 --> 00:25:18.280 they get across how *ed up your sister is, 00:25:18.280 --> 00:25:19.319 and how you never listened. 00:25:19.320 --> 00:25:21.480 Oh, go ahead Nathan, blame me, you always have. 00:25:23.120 --> 00:25:25.479 Has he leached you dry yet? 00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:28.119 Just go ahead for a sec. I'm ok. Uh... 00:25:28.120 --> 00:25:29.720 Please, just for a sec. 00:25:33.360 --> 00:25:35.599 *. 00:25:35.600 --> 00:25:37.919 Is that necessary? 00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:39.719 Look at me. 00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:41.639 You sound pathetic, Diane. 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:42.640 You're damaged. 00:25:45.040 --> 00:25:47.520 And you and your sister, you're a matched pair, you know that? 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:51.159 Let's go. 00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:52.160 Nathan. 00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:08.039 We don't know each other, obviously, but here's something about me, 00:26:08.040 --> 00:26:11.319 I have always loved a good story. 00:26:11.320 --> 00:26:14.879 A story well told is a beautiful thing. 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:19.239 And we as humans, we crave a good yarn, 00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:22.359 something that captures our imagination. 00:26:22.360 --> 00:26:23.879 And this, 00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:26.759 this is what the prosecution is relying on. 00:26:26.760 --> 00:26:30.759 Your desire, your human desire for a good yarn, 00:26:30.760 --> 00:26:32.919 for salacious gossip. 00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:33.999 Here we go. 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.079 Because what the police and the prosecution have done here 00:26:37.080 --> 00:26:41.559 is construct a narrative that has no real basis in fact. 00:26:41.560 --> 00:26:43.439 It is just a story. 00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:47.239 There is no real evidence against Kate Lawson. 00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:51.239 And they've done this to cover the glaring weakness in their case. 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:53.480 There is no body. 00:26:55.040 --> 00:26:56.959 There is not enough substantial evidence 00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:59.999 that anyone is dead, let alone murdered. 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.399 There is no real evidence of intent of motive 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:05.399 and there is no evidence 00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:09.039 that the defendant was a bad influence on her niece. 00:27:09.040 --> 00:27:12.880 Kate Lawson was, and is, a loving aunt. 00:27:14.840 --> 00:27:17.159 My learned friend would have you believe 00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:21.039 that Claire was an angelic, delightful child, 00:27:21.040 --> 00:27:22.639 but that is not so. 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:27.119 Claire Spears was headstrong, she was full of adolescent curiosity 00:27:27.120 --> 00:27:31.439 and more than anything, she was deeply, deeply troubled. 00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:34.759 Now, no one knows what's happened for sure, to Claire. 00:27:34.760 --> 00:27:36.559 But what I do know for sure 00:27:36.560 --> 00:27:39.280 is that Kate Lawson had nothing to do with it. 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:45.879 So, I beg you, to pay attention, 00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.199 to pay close attention. 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:49.679 Not to the bells and whistles 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:52.519 and the dramatics of the prosecution's narrative, 00:27:52.520 --> 00:27:57.879 but to the silent, gaping holes in their case. 00:27:57.880 --> 00:27:59.759 You cannot find my client, 00:27:59.760 --> 00:28:03.439 a woman whose fate is now entirely in your hands, 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:06.039 you cannot find her guilty 00:28:06.040 --> 00:28:10.639 as long as there is any reasonable doubt. 00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:12.119 Now the defence will be putting forward 00:28:12.120 --> 00:28:15.799 an alternative scenario to that of the crown. 00:28:15.800 --> 00:28:19.319 Though the police searched Kate Lawson's property and her car, 00:28:19.320 --> 00:28:22.760 they did not extend the search to other suspects. 00:28:38.320 --> 00:28:39.599 What? 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:42.199 What? 00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:43.439 Did you know? 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:45.679 About what? 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:49.079 Claire's name for me was puttana siciliana? 00:28:49.080 --> 00:28:50.399 No, I didn't know. 00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:51.759 That's ridiculous anyway, right? 00:28:51.760 --> 00:28:53.999 You're not even sicilian, you're venetian. 00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:57.119 Hey, Sonia, you know what this is, right? 00:28:57.120 --> 00:28:58.919 This is Diane trying to hurt us. 00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:00.239 You know that. 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:02.319 Sweetheart, open the door. 00:29:09.760 --> 00:29:10.920 Hey. 00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.000 Why couldn't you help me pay for our honeymoon? 00:29:23.520 --> 00:29:25.119 Why are you asking me this now? 00:29:25.120 --> 00:29:28.239 Because you're always saying you can't afford things 00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:29.439 because of child support, 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:32.119 but she said you haven't been paying any. 00:29:32.120 --> 00:29:34.519 Well, it's a lie. 00:29:34.520 --> 00:29:35.720 It's a lie. Ok. 00:29:37.800 --> 00:29:39.319 Look, I didn't... 00:29:39.320 --> 00:29:40.839 I didn't pay weekly. 00:29:40.840 --> 00:29:43.199 I didn't have an account set up where it went into automatically, 00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:47.519 but, I gave Claire money all the time. 00:29:47.520 --> 00:29:48.879 All the time, alright? 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:51.199 I paid money to the school. 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:54.120 Alright, it was, it was in like, lump sums. 00:29:56.120 --> 00:29:57.279 Ok, I did. 00:29:57.280 --> 00:29:58.360 Ok, ok. 00:30:11.660 --> 00:30:13.300 Hey, jarrod. 00:30:15.500 --> 00:30:17.899 Wait up. 00:30:17.900 --> 00:30:21.299 If it wasn't for the scholarship, I'd ditch her class altogether. 00:30:21.300 --> 00:30:23.019 Dude, report her. 00:30:23.020 --> 00:30:25.419 What she said was racist. 00:30:25.420 --> 00:30:26.820 That's not gonna fly, man. 00:30:28.380 --> 00:30:29.620 She's a blackfella, too. 00:30:33.540 --> 00:30:35.619 Home-grown, baby. 00:30:35.620 --> 00:30:36.979 None of that hydro shit. 00:30:36.980 --> 00:30:38.499 Nah, not for me. 00:30:38.500 --> 00:30:40.899 I got night class bullshit. 00:30:40.900 --> 00:30:42.259 'Death of the author'. 00:30:42.260 --> 00:30:43.660 Is that one of those whodunits? 00:30:50.700 --> 00:30:51.859 Righto, bra. 00:30:51.860 --> 00:30:53.099 I gotta go. 00:30:53.100 --> 00:30:54.460 Alright, see ya. 00:30:59.380 --> 00:31:01.939 I didn't expect to see you here. 00:31:03.780 --> 00:31:06.259 It explains everything in there. 00:31:06.260 --> 00:31:09.339 And they think it's going to take about two to three months. 00:31:09.340 --> 00:31:10.819 Thank you. 00:31:10.820 --> 00:31:12.459 So you won't be able to work. 00:31:12.460 --> 00:31:14.659 Is that ok? 00:31:14.660 --> 00:31:17.020 I'm sorry. No! It's not your fault. 00:31:19.380 --> 00:31:20.579 Think she did it? 00:31:20.580 --> 00:31:22.739 We're not really meant to talk about it. 00:31:22.740 --> 00:31:24.459 Can you please pass me the brown one? 00:31:24.460 --> 00:31:26.659 Thank you very much for picking them up, 00:31:26.660 --> 00:31:28.619 and I'll try and sort something out with the other mums. 00:31:28.620 --> 00:31:32.219 Honestly, it's fine. The school's just around the corner, alright? 00:31:32.220 --> 00:31:34.900 Is there any reason Jamie can't pick them up while the trial's on? 00:31:36.820 --> 00:31:38.019 Got it. 00:31:38.020 --> 00:31:40.899 We're not supposed to talk about that, either. 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:43.399 Woo! Oh, careful! 00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:45.119 Hold on! 00:31:45.120 --> 00:31:46.759 Alright, higher? 00:31:46.760 --> 00:31:47.959 Yeah! 00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:49.919 Hey, your mum's here. 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.639 Oh, yeah! 00:31:52.840 --> 00:31:55.400 Hey, girls, girls, girls, your bags! 00:31:58.160 --> 00:31:59.400 Does dad get a hug? 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:03.799 See you next week. 00:32:03.800 --> 00:32:06.679 I love you, bye. Hi! 00:32:28.800 --> 00:32:29.999 Who is it? 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.799 Oh, hi, it's Michael sleiman from the real estate agency. 00:32:32.800 --> 00:32:35.879 We have an appointment. Yeah, just a sec. 00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:37.799 Not this time, I have a job. 00:32:37.800 --> 00:32:38.960 I'll have the cash next week. 00:32:40.520 --> 00:32:44.439 Yeah, well if you break my legs I'll be even less use to you, mate. 00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:46.640 Yeah, sweet, hold off until... 00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:56.359 Hello? 00:32:56.360 --> 00:32:58.599 Oh. Corrie d'souza? 00:32:58.600 --> 00:32:59.680 Yeah. 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:03.240 Come in. 00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:13.319 Are you the owner? 00:33:13.320 --> 00:33:14.400 Yeah. 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:19.159 I only ask because you seem young. 00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:20.799 Um, yeah. 00:33:20.800 --> 00:33:22.520 My parents are dead. Oh. 00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:25.879 I'm sorry. 00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:27.000 That's ok. 00:34:37.680 --> 00:34:40.039 This is probably that trial you would have been put on, yeah? 00:34:40.240 --> 00:34:41.759 This is what this is about. Yeah. 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:38.799 I can't be cer... not really. 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:40.559 Not really? 00:35:40.560 --> 00:35:43.999 What does that mean, Georgina? Are you on it or not? 00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:46.159 I'm just... I'm an extra juror. 00:35:46.160 --> 00:35:49.279 They chose 14 instead of 12. 00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:51.360 Do you have to be there every day? 00:35:54.160 --> 00:35:55.520 Right, so you are on the jury. 00:35:58.480 --> 00:35:59.759 I tried to get out of it... 00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:00.920 So you lied to me? 00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:04.839 Yeah, I did. 00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.279 I'm sorry. 00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.519 I was gonna tell you. When? 00:36:09.520 --> 00:36:11.320 After you'd softened me up with a blow job? 00:36:19.160 --> 00:36:20.200 Jamie?