WEBVTT 00:00:08.046 --> 00:00:10.382 I thought this was gonna be an easy case. 00:00:10.448 --> 00:00:11.716 I was totally wrong. 00:00:11.783 --> 00:00:14.352 She was thrown in a trash can, and left for dead, 00:00:14.419 --> 00:00:16.021 * like a piece of trash. 00:00:16.321 --> 00:00:16.921 that he knew would not be credible. 00:00:18.656 --> 00:00:18.723 He had ***ual assaults dating back to 1983, 00:00:18.723 --> 00:00:19.224 He had ***ual assaults dating back to 1983, 00:00:19.290 --> 00:00:22.494 yet no one ever filed a case on him. 00:00:23.561 --> 00:00:26.464 It was a matter of time before he brutally attacks 00:00:26.531 --> 00:00:28.433 another female victim and kills her. 00:00:29.501 --> 00:00:31.169 DNA and CODIS played 00:00:31.236 --> 00:00:33.271 a very important role in this case. 00:00:33.371 --> 00:00:35.240 Suddenly we had physical evidence 00:00:35.306 --> 00:00:36.307 that placed someone there. 00:00:36.374 --> 00:00:38.476 We didn't want this to be 00:00:38.543 --> 00:00:41.446 another case that he gets away with. 00:01:25.557 --> 00:01:28.660 I have what I call "big brother syndrome." 00:01:28.726 --> 00:01:30.328 It's like you're picking on someone 00:01:30.328 --> 00:01:31.796 that can't defend themselves, 00:01:31.830 --> 00:01:33.531 and that's just to me not right. 00:01:33.565 --> 00:01:36.201 Maybe that's one of the reasons I went into law enforcement. 00:01:39.270 --> 00:01:40.972 I started with Santa Ana Police Department 00:01:40.972 --> 00:01:43.174 like in 19... I believe it was '82. 00:01:43.241 --> 00:01:45.944 I wanted to be a detective, like anybody in their career, 00:01:46.010 --> 00:01:48.947 and I was asked to do *** crimes. 00:01:50.548 --> 00:01:52.851 So that's how my career got started. 00:01:52.917 --> 00:01:55.386 I worked *** crimes for about 12 years. 00:01:56.454 --> 00:01:58.656 This case is one of the most 00:01:58.723 --> 00:02:01.192 interesting cases I've ever worked. 00:02:01.226 --> 00:02:03.228 I'd like to call it my career case. 00:02:11.669 --> 00:02:11.703 I was supervising the ***ual assault unit. 00:02:12.804 --> 00:02:14.139 At that time, 00:02:14.205 --> 00:02:16.875 there was a problem with what we call "circuit girls" 00:02:16.941 --> 00:02:19.277 that travel across the country for prostitution. 00:02:21.579 --> 00:02:22.747 Unfortunately, 00:02:22.847 --> 00:02:25.617 it appears to be a high level of crime 00:02:25.683 --> 00:02:28.219 where these prostitutes are victimized, 00:02:28.286 --> 00:02:30.355 and a lot of crimes aren't reported 00:02:30.421 --> 00:02:33.024 because they have fear that, y'know, 00:02:33.091 --> 00:02:35.126 they'll be arrested because of what they're doing, 00:02:35.226 --> 00:02:37.962 or they're not reported because they feel ashamed, 00:02:38.029 --> 00:02:39.297 or they feel that, y'know, 00:02:39.364 --> 00:02:40.999 law enforcement won't believe 'em. 00:02:43.268 --> 00:02:46.971 My experience is 30 percent of the people 00:02:47.038 --> 00:02:49.641 don't believe a prostitute can be raped. 00:02:49.707 --> 00:02:53.178 They act like it's just a business deal gone bad. 00:02:53.244 --> 00:02:56.047 My first contact with this case was basically a police report 00:02:56.147 --> 00:02:57.715 that arrives on my desk. 00:02:57.782 --> 00:02:59.784 My sergeant assigns a case, 00:02:59.817 --> 00:03:01.419 I started reading it. 00:03:01.452 --> 00:03:03.354 I saw the photographs... 00:03:12.730 --> 00:03:15.466 She was thrown in a trash can, left for dead, 00:03:15.500 --> 00:03:17.502 * like a piece of trash. 00:03:17.569 --> 00:03:19.337 And that caught my attention. 00:03:19.404 --> 00:03:21.339 That's not a normal business deal gone bad. 00:03:24.209 --> 00:03:25.710 I believe a local preacher 00:03:25.777 --> 00:03:27.545 was walking by that night, 00:03:27.612 --> 00:03:29.214 and heard her crying, 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:30.882 helps her out of the trash dumpster. 00:03:32.317 --> 00:03:33.785 The police are called, 00:03:33.851 --> 00:03:36.287 and an investigation is started from there. 00:03:42.026 --> 00:03:43.561 She's taken to the hospital 00:03:43.561 --> 00:03:45.730 where they'll swab her body 00:03:45.797 --> 00:03:47.799 and they're gonna take a DNA test. 00:03:47.865 --> 00:03:49.467 Any semen that's found, 00:03:49.500 --> 00:03:51.736 hairs that are left behind, 00:03:51.769 --> 00:03:53.371 any biological evidence we can find 00:03:53.371 --> 00:03:55.273 is done at the hospital off of her. 00:04:00.378 --> 00:04:01.946 In forensic science, 00:04:02.013 --> 00:04:05.316 we work off of something they call "Locard's Principle," 00:04:05.383 --> 00:04:07.118 or "the Principle of Exchange." 00:04:07.185 --> 00:04:08.886 And that means that when people 00:04:08.953 --> 00:04:10.855 come into contact with each other, 00:04:10.922 --> 00:04:11.956 there's very likely 00:04:12.023 --> 00:04:14.692 some exchange of some fiber, 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:17.495 a hair or body fluid. 00:04:17.562 --> 00:04:19.497 And our job as forensic scientists 00:04:19.564 --> 00:04:21.065 is to make sure we collect 00:04:21.132 --> 00:04:24.202 any of those fibers or hairs or fluids 00:04:24.269 --> 00:04:25.937 that have been exchanged 00:04:26.037 --> 00:04:28.773 because we're trying to place people at a scene, 00:04:28.806 --> 00:04:31.609 or we're trying to place people together, 00:04:31.676 --> 00:04:33.444 or we're trying to exclude people 00:04:33.511 --> 00:04:35.413 from being at the scene or being together. 00:04:36.481 --> 00:04:40.151 I got this case about a week after it occurred. 00:04:41.219 --> 00:04:43.821 I call the victim... We'll call her Jane... 00:04:43.888 --> 00:04:45.823 She comes in, and we sit down, 00:04:45.890 --> 00:04:47.292 and we have a talk. 00:04:47.358 --> 00:04:48.860 I read the original police report, 00:04:48.926 --> 00:04:51.062 but I wanna hear what happened to her... 00:04:51.095 --> 00:04:52.397 Y'know, her words. 00:04:52.864 --> 00:04:54.632 They pull into a parking lot 00:04:54.699 --> 00:04:56.401 and it's an industrial area, 00:04:56.467 --> 00:04:58.569 dark, blacked out. 00:04:58.636 --> 00:05:00.738 And he says, "We're gonna do these certain acts," 00:05:00.838 --> 00:05:02.674 and she says, "No, I don't do 'em." 00:05:02.740 --> 00:05:04.075 He goes, "I'll give you more money,". 00:05:04.142 --> 00:05:06.644 She says, "I just don't do 'em. We're done here..." 00:05:06.711 --> 00:05:08.479 500 bucks. 00:05:08.579 --> 00:05:10.648 Let me out of this car! 00:05:10.715 --> 00:05:12.050 Why is this locked? 00:05:12.116 --> 00:05:13.718 What do you think of that? 00:05:15.019 --> 00:05:16.621 And he grabs her by the throat, 00:05:16.688 --> 00:05:18.022 crushes her. 00:05:18.089 --> 00:05:19.691 He's choking her so hard she can't talk. 00:05:19.757 --> 00:05:21.859 She passes out. 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:24.862 The next thing she knows, she's in the back seat. 00:05:24.962 --> 00:05:26.531 He's on top of her, 00:05:26.597 --> 00:05:28.232 and she's like, "I can't do this," 00:05:28.299 --> 00:05:29.967 and he goes, "You will," 00:05:30.034 --> 00:05:31.235 and he forces this on her, 00:05:31.269 --> 00:05:32.670 supports the view 00:05:32.737 --> 00:05:36.140 that the primary issue on the mind of the rapist 00:05:36.207 --> 00:05:39.377 is one about asserting control over their victim. 00:05:39.410 --> 00:05:41.379 And that's what gives them gratification 00:05:41.412 --> 00:05:43.047 more than the ***ual act itself. 00:05:48.986 --> 00:05:51.956 She told me when it was over, 00:05:52.023 --> 00:05:54.425 he says, "If you would've just done what I asked, 00:05:54.525 --> 00:05:56.661 we wouldn't be in this situation here." 00:05:56.728 --> 00:05:59.263 And he goes, "But now I can't let you go." 00:05:59.330 --> 00:06:02.400 So he starts choking her, choking her, choking her. 00:06:02.467 --> 00:06:04.902 She can't breathe, her head's about to explode, 00:06:04.936 --> 00:06:07.939 and that's the last thing she remembers. 00:06:08.005 --> 00:06:10.475 When pressure is applied to the neck, 00:06:10.541 --> 00:06:13.611 the brain suffers from lack of oxygen 00:06:13.678 --> 00:06:15.780 because of that impeded blood flow. 00:06:15.780 --> 00:06:18.816 That lack of oxygen will put someone in a sleep state. 00:06:18.883 --> 00:06:21.085 Then that assailant may think that 00:06:21.119 --> 00:06:23.321 that victim is dead, 00:06:23.354 --> 00:06:25.523 but they're not. 00:06:27.358 --> 00:06:29.327 In the mind of the suspect, 00:06:29.394 --> 00:06:31.262 he honestly thought he'd killed her. 00:06:31.329 --> 00:06:33.865 So it was basically working 00:06:33.865 --> 00:06:36.367 a homicide case, if you will, 00:06:36.401 --> 00:06:39.303 but this victim actually came to and survived. 00:06:40.872 --> 00:06:41.005 She described him as about six foot tall. 00:06:41.339 --> 00:06:44.342 What she remembered that really helped this case 00:06:44.442 --> 00:06:46.644 was it was a black Cadillac. 00:06:46.711 --> 00:06:48.679 She described it perfectly, 00:06:48.746 --> 00:06:50.348 that it was immaculate, 00:06:50.348 --> 00:06:52.283 it was so clean. 00:06:52.350 --> 00:06:54.218 She gave us a plate number that was... 00:06:54.285 --> 00:06:56.387 I thought this was gonna be an easy case. 00:06:56.454 --> 00:06:58.222 She gave us a plate number with four numbers 00:06:58.289 --> 00:06:59.690 at the end of the plate: 00:06:59.757 --> 00:07:02.026 8-1-7-7. 00:07:02.093 --> 00:07:04.495 She memorized those numbers before she got into the car. 00:07:04.562 --> 00:07:07.965 So I mean she did everything you could really ask for of a victim. 00:07:10.034 --> 00:07:12.637 I start the investigation. 00:07:12.703 --> 00:07:15.139 We put the word on the street with the prostitutes, 00:07:15.206 --> 00:07:17.842 say, "Hey, we're looking for this guy in a black Cadillac. 00:07:17.875 --> 00:07:20.211 He's raping you girls. Give us a phone call." 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:24.215 Also I do a flyer of a black Cadillac. 00:07:26.117 --> 00:07:28.986 We were stopping every black Cadillac on Harbour Boulevard, 00:07:29.053 --> 00:07:30.555 sending out state-wide Bolos. 00:07:30.621 --> 00:07:33.724 I'm also going to other law enforcement agencies, okay, 00:07:33.791 --> 00:07:37.395 for similar type of cases and similar type of vehicles. 00:07:37.495 --> 00:07:39.931 So I thought this was gonna be an easy case. 00:07:39.997 --> 00:07:41.666 Just gotta find me a black Cadillac 00:07:41.732 --> 00:07:43.901 with those numbers and we'll go from there. 00:07:43.968 --> 00:07:45.903 We knew we had DNA evidence, 00:07:45.970 --> 00:07:48.706 so I thought this was gonna be an easy case. 00:07:49.907 --> 00:07:51.509 I was totally wrong. 00:07:58.416 --> 00:08:01.285 Santa Ana, it's two different cities. 00:08:01.352 --> 00:08:02.553 During the day, 00:08:02.620 --> 00:08:04.522 it's city hub. 00:08:04.589 --> 00:08:05.623 During the night, 00:08:05.690 --> 00:08:07.725 it's a high gang populated area 00:08:07.792 --> 00:08:10.728 and certain areas are known for its prostitution. 00:08:13.264 --> 00:08:15.533 It's a kind of an unwritten triangle 00:08:15.566 --> 00:08:16.767 between Arizona, 00:08:16.834 --> 00:08:18.536 San Diego and Santa Ana 00:08:18.569 --> 00:08:19.670 where the girls would 00:08:19.737 --> 00:08:22.440 work their trade in each cities 00:08:22.540 --> 00:08:24.308 until it got a little too hot, 00:08:24.375 --> 00:08:25.710 they were wanted for prostitution, 00:08:25.776 --> 00:08:27.945 and they'd to move on, and it was a triangle. 00:08:28.145 --> 00:08:30.348 were circuit victims that travel. 00:08:30.414 --> 00:08:32.550 It would be challenging to even locate 'em 00:08:32.650 --> 00:08:34.752 to do any follow-up investigative work. 00:08:34.819 --> 00:08:36.153 If you solved, y'know, 00:08:36.220 --> 00:08:38.322 one or two out of a hundred cases, 00:08:38.389 --> 00:08:39.991 you were doing great. 00:08:41.325 --> 00:08:43.461 There's only two ***ual assault detectives 00:08:43.528 --> 00:08:46.531 working all the ***ual assaults in the City of Santa Ana. 00:08:46.597 --> 00:08:49.467 So you can imagine the case load for these detectives 00:08:49.534 --> 00:08:51.469 was pretty significant. 00:08:53.204 --> 00:08:55.406 Jane was a veteran prostitute. 00:08:55.473 --> 00:08:58.843 I believe she started at 16. 00:08:58.943 --> 00:09:00.811 She normally works in Las Vegas 00:09:00.878 --> 00:09:03.080 where she makes 500 dollars an hour 00:09:03.147 --> 00:09:06.751 and she came out to see the circuit. 00:09:06.817 --> 00:09:08.986 She knew the risk of the business, 00:09:09.053 --> 00:09:10.755 but she was basically telling me 00:09:10.821 --> 00:09:13.157 she'd been raped and left for dead, 00:09:13.224 --> 00:09:16.060 and she wanted something done. 00:09:16.127 --> 00:09:18.162 In her opinion, he had done this before. 00:09:20.231 --> 00:09:22.466 A description's put out for the vehicle, 00:09:22.533 --> 00:09:24.435 which was a shiny black Cadillac 00:09:24.502 --> 00:09:28.439 with the last four numbers possibly being 8177. 00:09:29.807 --> 00:09:32.076 We databased everything we could find 00:09:32.143 --> 00:09:34.211 and could not come up with a Cadillac 00:09:34.278 --> 00:09:35.880 with those last four numbers. 00:09:37.348 --> 00:09:39.884 And then one morning I come in, 00:09:39.984 --> 00:09:42.887 and they said, "The patrol officer arrested your suspect." 00:09:45.990 --> 00:09:47.892 I couldn't be happier, right? 00:09:49.627 --> 00:09:51.429 I start reading the report, 00:09:51.495 --> 00:09:53.164 and what happened was 00:09:53.230 --> 00:09:55.900 patrol was working Harbour Boulevard very hard. 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:58.369 We were having a couple rapes in that area... 00:09:58.402 --> 00:10:00.504 Jane's, and several of others. 00:10:01.572 --> 00:10:03.941 They pull up on a car. It's a Cadillac. 00:10:06.577 --> 00:10:09.847 Both of them are arrested for lewd conduct in public, 00:10:09.880 --> 00:10:11.882 which is a crime in Santa Ana. 00:10:11.949 --> 00:10:15.119 The driver matches the description of another rape case... 00:10:15.219 --> 00:10:18.489 Not Jane's, a prostitute rape... 00:10:18.522 --> 00:10:20.224 And she's actually working that night, 00:10:20.291 --> 00:10:22.493 so they bring her over. 00:10:22.526 --> 00:10:24.528 And she says, "Yes, 00:10:24.595 --> 00:10:28.065 the driver of that Cadillac is the guy who raped me." 00:10:28.132 --> 00:10:30.668 Another officer steps in and goes, "Hey, 00:10:30.735 --> 00:10:32.803 I worked a case four months ago. 00:10:32.870 --> 00:10:34.505 Jane's case and this guy 00:10:34.538 --> 00:10:36.874 kind of matches the description." 00:10:36.941 --> 00:10:38.709 They call up Jane, 00:10:38.776 --> 00:10:40.645 and Jane comes to the station 00:10:40.711 --> 00:10:42.446 and ID's the same guy... 00:10:45.082 --> 00:10:48.019 And so they arrested him for Jane's case. 00:10:50.755 --> 00:10:52.456 During that arrest, 00:10:52.523 --> 00:10:54.625 the guy submitted to a DNA test 00:10:54.725 --> 00:10:57.128 but would not talk under Miranda. 00:11:00.731 --> 00:11:03.000 The crime that perhaps DNA 00:11:03.100 --> 00:11:06.103 has had the most impact on is ***ual assaults 00:11:06.170 --> 00:11:08.305 and helping us solve rapes. 00:11:08.372 --> 00:11:11.242 When I was younger in the 1970s 00:11:11.308 --> 00:11:12.510 victims often had to 00:11:12.576 --> 00:11:15.980 testify and identify the suspect in court. 00:11:16.047 --> 00:11:17.248 With the advent of DNA 00:11:17.314 --> 00:11:18.783 suddenly we brought to those victims 00:11:18.849 --> 00:11:20.518 a really powerful tool 00:11:20.584 --> 00:11:22.520 that actually linked an individual 00:11:22.586 --> 00:11:24.789 to that ***ual assault. 00:11:24.855 --> 00:11:26.857 Suddenly we had physical evidence 00:11:26.924 --> 00:11:28.859 that placed someone there. 00:11:29.927 --> 00:11:31.896 DNA profiles are basically 00:11:31.962 --> 00:11:33.264 a series of numbers. 00:11:33.330 --> 00:11:35.433 If the series of numbers matches, 00:11:35.499 --> 00:11:36.934 there's no exclusions, 00:11:37.001 --> 00:11:38.703 they all line up with one another, 00:11:38.769 --> 00:11:41.372 then we do call that a match. 00:11:41.439 --> 00:11:43.774 When we talk about a matching DNA profile, 00:11:43.874 --> 00:11:45.276 we have to understand that 00:11:45.342 --> 00:11:47.511 we're not looking at the entire DNA molecule. 00:11:47.578 --> 00:11:49.613 Typically in the United States, 00:11:49.680 --> 00:11:52.349 we're looking at 16 specific areas 00:11:52.416 --> 00:11:55.786 that differ between individuals. 00:11:55.886 --> 00:11:58.689 The probability of selecting another person 00:11:58.789 --> 00:12:01.025 that would have that exact same profile 00:12:01.092 --> 00:12:04.795 is generally one in several hundred trillion 00:12:04.895 --> 00:12:06.630 or possibly in the quadrillions. 00:12:09.366 --> 00:12:11.235 They submit the case to 00:12:11.302 --> 00:12:12.970 the District Attorney's office 00:12:13.037 --> 00:12:15.473 and the District Attorney decides to file. 00:12:15.573 --> 00:12:16.741 We have his DNA, 00:12:16.841 --> 00:12:19.577 but we have yet to have it tested and come back yet. 00:12:19.643 --> 00:12:20.978 That takes time. 00:12:21.045 --> 00:12:23.214 So I decide to look at the car 00:12:23.280 --> 00:12:24.715 because if this thing's immaculate 00:12:24.782 --> 00:12:26.383 then really we got the guy, 00:12:26.383 --> 00:12:27.985 we're really moving here. 00:12:29.687 --> 00:12:31.789 Soon as I saw the car sitting there 00:12:31.856 --> 00:12:33.591 it gave me a bad vibe. 00:12:33.691 --> 00:12:35.826 It was trashed. 00:12:35.893 --> 00:12:38.496 And when I opened the car door on the passenger side, 00:12:38.562 --> 00:12:40.998 there was food wrappers weeks old 00:12:41.065 --> 00:12:43.501 all over the floor, all over the back seat... 00:12:43.567 --> 00:12:45.169 It gave me a bad vibe. 00:12:45.236 --> 00:12:48.873 However, we have positive IDs by two victims. 00:12:50.975 --> 00:12:52.376 We go to court. 00:12:52.443 --> 00:12:55.112 The female victim from the first rape is there 00:12:55.179 --> 00:12:57.348 and Jane is there in court, 00:12:57.414 --> 00:13:00.851 and they are gonna testify as to what happened to them. 00:13:00.918 --> 00:13:02.953 For a victim to go on the stand, 00:13:02.953 --> 00:13:05.156 as a victim of rape, it's humiliating. 00:13:05.222 --> 00:13:07.191 I mean, it is the toughest thing probably, 00:13:07.258 --> 00:13:08.859 besides the actual event, 00:13:08.926 --> 00:13:10.661 they're ever gonna do in their life. 00:13:12.730 --> 00:13:14.899 So Jane gets on the stand... 00:13:16.333 --> 00:13:18.736 Then the defence attorney starts hammering her, 00:13:18.836 --> 00:13:21.572 going over what happened in the car. 00:13:22.740 --> 00:13:24.875 Jane says, "He put his left hand on my throat, 00:13:24.942 --> 00:13:26.277 started choking me." 00:13:26.343 --> 00:13:29.113 He would say, "A second ago you said it was his right hand," 00:13:29.146 --> 00:13:31.849 and a few minutes later, he's hammering her again about, 00:13:31.882 --> 00:13:33.484 "You're making 25,000 dollars a month, 00:13:33.484 --> 00:13:36.854 you're this, you're nothing but a prostitute..." 00:13:36.887 --> 00:13:38.289 She stands up, 00:13:38.355 --> 00:13:41.058 screams "I can't take this anymore," 00:13:41.125 --> 00:13:43.794 runs right down the courtroom, right past me, 00:13:43.861 --> 00:13:45.996 out the doors of the courtroom, down the hall, 00:13:46.063 --> 00:13:47.932 and I guess she's leaving the court building. 00:13:47.998 --> 00:13:51.602 I am on my feet, chasing her as fast as I can. 00:13:51.669 --> 00:13:54.705 She's crying, very emotional. 00:13:54.772 --> 00:13:56.774 She goes, "I'm not testifying." 00:13:56.874 --> 00:14:00.144 And I go, "No, if this is the guy that did it", 00:14:00.177 --> 00:14:02.246 "we can't let this happen to anybody else. 00:14:02.313 --> 00:14:04.048 You're like a hero on this case." 00:14:04.148 --> 00:14:06.016 So she goes back into the courtroom. 00:14:06.083 --> 00:14:08.018 Jane tells the rest of her story. 00:14:08.085 --> 00:14:09.887 A judge says, "Yes, 00:14:09.954 --> 00:14:12.556 there's enough probable cause to hold him over for a trial." 00:14:15.192 --> 00:14:18.429 Three days later the DNA comes back from him, 00:14:18.495 --> 00:14:20.164 and it's not our suspect. 00:14:20.231 --> 00:14:22.166 Those charges are immediately dropped. 00:14:24.235 --> 00:14:27.071 I'm often asked why victims of crimes 00:14:27.104 --> 00:14:29.106 don't correctly remember what's happened to them, 00:14:29.106 --> 00:14:30.741 The short answer is 00:14:30.774 --> 00:14:34.211 the very hormones that help us fight, or run away, 00:14:34.278 --> 00:14:36.046 or to defend ourselves under an attack 00:14:36.113 --> 00:14:37.715 are hormones that are highly damaging 00:14:37.748 --> 00:14:39.149 to parts of our brain 00:14:39.216 --> 00:14:40.818 that are involved in forming memory. 00:14:42.052 --> 00:14:44.154 Let me out of this... Why is this locked? 00:14:44.221 --> 00:14:45.823 Let me out! 00:14:46.490 --> 00:14:49.026 So the majority of people 00:14:49.059 --> 00:14:50.928 under extraordinary stress 00:14:51.028 --> 00:14:53.931 do not have an accurate memory of what's happened to them. 00:14:54.031 --> 00:14:57.268 After I told Jane this is not the guy, 00:14:57.334 --> 00:14:58.769 she leaves town 00:14:58.836 --> 00:15:01.138 and I have no idea where she went. 00:15:01.205 --> 00:15:03.340 We've submitted all the evidence 00:15:03.407 --> 00:15:05.609 that we can to the lab. 00:15:05.676 --> 00:15:08.679 The DNA is in the system and we've got no hits. 00:15:08.779 --> 00:15:10.447 This case now has gone cold. 00:15:19.490 --> 00:15:21.458 DNA analysis was 00:15:21.525 --> 00:15:24.194 a huge boon to forensic biology. 00:15:24.261 --> 00:15:25.396 However, 00:15:25.462 --> 00:15:28.132 it had certain problems that still existed prior. 00:15:28.198 --> 00:15:30.734 And that is, if you didn't have a suspect, 00:15:30.801 --> 00:15:32.403 it didn't solve the case. 00:15:34.638 --> 00:15:38.042 In the first days of DNA testing, 00:15:38.108 --> 00:15:40.010 if we had a profile 00:15:40.044 --> 00:15:43.480 and the detectives did not have a suspect, 00:15:43.547 --> 00:15:45.516 we couldn't do anything with that profile. 00:15:45.582 --> 00:15:47.952 We couldn't compare it to anything else. 00:15:48.018 --> 00:15:50.321 Perhaps we could compare it to other cases 00:15:50.387 --> 00:15:52.089 if they were within our laboratory. 00:15:52.156 --> 00:15:54.391 But if a case was happening in another state, 00:15:54.425 --> 00:15:55.659 or another city, 00:15:55.693 --> 00:15:58.529 we wouldn't know about it necessarily. 00:15:58.595 --> 00:16:00.664 So that is one of the reasons 00:16:00.731 --> 00:16:02.466 why the CODIS system, 00:16:02.533 --> 00:16:04.401 or the Combined DNA Index System, 00:16:04.435 --> 00:16:06.036 came about. 00:16:06.070 --> 00:16:08.305 It involved legislation 00:16:08.339 --> 00:16:10.774 from every state in America 00:16:10.841 --> 00:16:13.310 to build this CODIS system. 00:16:14.411 --> 00:16:15.813 CODIS, 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:18.148 as a database of information, 00:16:18.215 --> 00:16:20.617 keeps all of these DNA profiles 00:16:20.684 --> 00:16:23.053 and it compares them constantly against each other. 00:16:24.788 --> 00:16:27.992 If one crime were committed in one state, 00:16:28.058 --> 00:16:30.728 and another crime were committed in another state, 00:16:30.794 --> 00:16:33.097 CODIS can link those two cases 00:16:33.163 --> 00:16:35.165 just simply by identifying 00:16:35.232 --> 00:16:36.834 a common DNA profile 00:16:36.900 --> 00:16:38.602 that was in both cases. 00:16:39.703 --> 00:16:41.772 It doesn't have to be by geography. 00:16:41.839 --> 00:16:43.640 It could also be by time. 00:16:43.707 --> 00:16:46.243 If two crimes were committed in the same area 00:16:46.343 --> 00:16:48.545 but separated by days, 00:16:48.612 --> 00:16:51.148 weeks, months, or even years, 00:16:51.215 --> 00:16:54.551 CODIS can still identify that common DNA profile 00:16:54.618 --> 00:16:56.220 between those two cases. 00:16:59.957 --> 00:17:02.726 Five years goes by... 00:17:02.760 --> 00:17:05.863 I receive a phone call from CODIS, 00:17:05.929 --> 00:17:08.032 and basically CODIS told me 00:17:08.098 --> 00:17:09.533 the DNA in Jane's case 00:17:09.600 --> 00:17:11.902 matches the DNA in a case in Washington. 00:17:11.969 --> 00:17:14.905 "You want more information, contact Washington." 00:17:14.972 --> 00:17:17.408 And he gives me a phone number. 00:17:20.944 --> 00:17:23.213 When CODIS gave me the information, 00:17:23.280 --> 00:17:25.682 I don't even know what file they are talking about. 00:17:25.749 --> 00:17:27.184 It's just a bunch of numbers. 00:17:27.217 --> 00:17:29.086 I pull the case and realize, yeah, 00:17:29.186 --> 00:17:30.487 y'know, it's been five years. 00:17:30.554 --> 00:17:32.156 Yeah, I remember this case... 00:17:35.826 --> 00:17:38.195 Yeah, and I didn't solve it, which I take personal. 00:17:38.228 --> 00:17:39.830 Tom was the type of detective 00:17:39.830 --> 00:17:42.299 that once he, y'know, had a lead, 00:17:42.366 --> 00:17:44.568 he would follow up on it, and follow up. 00:17:44.635 --> 00:17:46.603 He would leave no stone unturned. 00:17:46.670 --> 00:17:49.106 And I knew if I assigned it to Tom, 00:17:49.206 --> 00:17:51.575 it would get done to the best of his ability. 00:17:51.642 --> 00:17:53.243 He wholeheartedly agreed, 00:17:53.310 --> 00:17:55.446 "Yes, assign the case to me. I'll take it." 00:17:58.949 --> 00:18:01.752 So I call the State of Washington 00:18:01.785 --> 00:18:03.554 and I get a hold of the detective 00:18:03.654 --> 00:18:06.023 and say, "Hey, I just got a call from CODIS." 00:18:06.056 --> 00:18:07.291 He goes, "I dunno what case you're talking about. 00:18:07.391 --> 00:18:08.959 I never received a call." 00:18:09.860 --> 00:18:12.663 I go, "Lemme tell you what happened in my case. 00:18:12.696 --> 00:18:16.233 This girl Jane was choked to death, practically, 00:18:16.300 --> 00:18:18.202 sodomized, raped, 00:18:18.268 --> 00:18:20.704 and left for dead." 00:18:20.771 --> 00:18:23.140 He thinks about it for a couple of minutes 00:18:23.207 --> 00:18:24.842 and says, "That sounds like a case 00:18:24.908 --> 00:18:26.543 I just worked about six months ago." 00:18:26.610 --> 00:18:29.680 I go, "What?" and he gives me the description 00:18:29.746 --> 00:18:32.449 of a girl who was in a bar with some of her girlfriends, 00:18:32.516 --> 00:18:35.452 and she needed a ride home, 00:18:35.452 --> 00:18:37.454 and she didn't have her phone. 00:18:37.521 --> 00:18:40.457 One of her girlfriends told her, "A friend of mine, Lee, 00:18:40.524 --> 00:18:42.326 will give you a ride home if you want. 00:18:42.426 --> 00:18:45.329 He's giving me one. You can catch a ride with us." 00:18:49.433 --> 00:18:51.802 She gets a ride home with this guy. 00:18:51.869 --> 00:18:56.306 He accidentally drives past her address, 00:18:56.373 --> 00:18:58.809 dumps off her friend... 00:19:01.879 --> 00:19:03.480 and then he continues, 00:19:03.547 --> 00:19:05.482 opposite direction of her house. 00:19:05.549 --> 00:19:07.918 And she even says, "Hey, I live back that way." 00:19:07.985 --> 00:19:09.853 He says, "I gotta make a phone call." 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:10.988 "Can't find reception. 00:19:11.088 --> 00:19:12.489 "Maybe if we drive further into the woods, 00:19:12.556 --> 00:19:14.158 we'll get better reception." 00:19:18.195 --> 00:19:19.630 He stops the car, 00:19:19.730 --> 00:19:22.032 and the victim says, before she even knows what happened, 00:19:22.099 --> 00:19:24.034 he is on top of her, choking her, 00:19:24.101 --> 00:19:25.602 dragging her out of the car. 00:19:25.669 --> 00:19:27.604 Says, "You're gonna do what I say." 00:19:27.671 --> 00:19:29.106 Throws her in the back, 00:19:29.139 --> 00:19:32.109 rapes, sodomizes her, chokes her... 00:19:34.978 --> 00:19:37.414 And then when he's done, he takes her home. 00:19:38.482 --> 00:19:40.284 He tells her, "Hey, I'm a very important person" 00:19:40.350 --> 00:19:43.587 at this airline manufacturer where I work 00:19:43.654 --> 00:19:45.989 and if you go to the police and tell them, 00:19:46.056 --> 00:19:47.758 it's gonna be your word against mine, 00:19:47.791 --> 00:19:51.228 "and they're not gonna believe you because you drink." 00:19:53.263 --> 00:19:55.666 She still goes and files a police report. 00:19:56.900 --> 00:19:56.934 They take the victim to the hospital 00:19:57.234 --> 00:19:59.536 They take the victim to the hospital 00:19:59.603 --> 00:20:01.872 and a rape examination is performed on her, 00:20:01.939 --> 00:20:03.440 and that's where Washington 00:20:03.507 --> 00:20:05.976 receive their DNA sample. 00:20:06.076 --> 00:20:07.978 She made an accusation of a name, 00:20:08.078 --> 00:20:09.646 and his name was Lee Chandler. 00:20:11.548 --> 00:20:14.484 They bring in Lee Chandler to the police station 00:20:14.551 --> 00:20:16.186 to be interviewed. 00:20:16.220 --> 00:20:17.454 Once at the police station, 00:20:17.487 --> 00:20:20.691 the detective in Port Angeles reads him his rights 00:20:20.757 --> 00:20:23.460 and he immediately says, "Well, what do you have on me?" 00:20:23.527 --> 00:20:26.697 Soon as he's told, "You're here under a rape investigation," 00:20:26.763 --> 00:20:29.199 he says, "I'm not talking without my lawyer." 00:20:29.266 --> 00:20:32.202 "I'm heading back," basically, "to California tomorrow." 00:20:35.472 --> 00:20:38.709 A case is submitted to the District Attorney over there. 00:20:38.775 --> 00:20:40.544 The District Attorney over in Washington 00:20:40.611 --> 00:20:42.779 felt there wasn't enough evidence yet 00:20:42.813 --> 00:20:45.716 to charge Lee Chandler with a crime. 00:20:48.785 --> 00:20:50.487 But right then and there, 00:20:50.554 --> 00:20:52.489 I knew I'm on this. 00:20:52.522 --> 00:20:55.659 I mean, it's like, okay, now it's leg work. 00:20:55.726 --> 00:20:57.995 I'm gonna find out whether 00:20:58.061 --> 00:21:00.497 Lee Chandler was my suspect or not. 00:21:02.566 --> 00:21:06.169 When I'm talking to the detective in Washington, 00:21:06.236 --> 00:21:10.907 he says, "Lee Chandler works for a major airline manufacturer 00:21:10.974 --> 00:21:14.678 and we think he's possibly like a Vice President." 00:21:15.912 --> 00:21:17.648 And then he says, 00:21:17.714 --> 00:21:19.950 "Lee Chandler lives by you." 00:21:21.685 --> 00:21:24.421 And I'm like, "Well, California's big. 00:21:24.521 --> 00:21:26.323 Whereabouts?" 00:21:26.390 --> 00:21:29.359 He says, "In the city of Westminster." 00:21:29.426 --> 00:21:30.761 I'm like, that's really close. 00:21:30.827 --> 00:21:32.663 I would say if I lived in Westminster 00:21:32.729 --> 00:21:34.564 and wanted to pick up a hooker, 00:21:34.631 --> 00:21:36.566 I'd drive to Santa Ana, Harbour Boulevard. 00:21:36.633 --> 00:21:37.968 That's how close he lived. 00:21:38.035 --> 00:21:40.570 I mean, it was like right next door. 00:21:48.545 --> 00:21:50.914 I get the police reports 00:21:50.981 --> 00:21:54.384 and I also get the drivers license number of Lee Chandler. 00:21:54.451 --> 00:21:56.787 I start running records on him. 00:21:57.220 --> 00:22:01.024 dating back as far as I could find, 1983, 00:22:01.058 --> 00:22:04.061 yet no one ever filed a case on him. 00:22:04.127 --> 00:22:06.797 To me, he was a predator, 00:22:06.863 --> 00:22:08.465 from what I was reading, 00:22:08.532 --> 00:22:10.467 and very controlling. 00:22:11.935 --> 00:22:13.403 He was a brutal rapist. 00:22:13.437 --> 00:22:15.872 Every victim, every report that I found, 00:22:15.939 --> 00:22:17.541 violence. 00:22:24.281 --> 00:22:27.284 He targeted victims that 00:22:27.351 --> 00:22:30.620 he knew would not be credible, 00:22:30.687 --> 00:22:32.356 victims that he knew 00:22:32.422 --> 00:22:34.524 that maybe the police wouldn't believe... 00:22:34.591 --> 00:22:35.892 For example, prostitutes, 00:22:36.560 --> 00:22:38.562 But even if we have the right person, 00:22:38.628 --> 00:22:40.897 how do we prove that he owned a black Cadillac? 00:22:40.997 --> 00:22:42.499 So many years have gone by, 00:22:42.566 --> 00:22:45.669 and what are the odds of him driving the same car? 00:22:45.736 --> 00:22:47.838 So we coordinated a surveillance team, 00:22:47.904 --> 00:22:50.073 get out to the location where he lives, 00:22:50.140 --> 00:22:53.243 and we're out early in the morning watching the home. 00:22:55.912 --> 00:22:57.914 And we're sittin' there, 00:22:57.981 --> 00:23:00.016 and we're watchin', and we're watchin'. 00:23:00.083 --> 00:23:01.451 About a half hour later, 00:23:01.518 --> 00:23:04.354 a gentleman comes out to pick up a newspaper in the driveway. 00:23:07.557 --> 00:23:10.460 He picks up the newspaper and he looks left and right 00:23:10.527 --> 00:23:12.829 and surveys the street. 00:23:12.863 --> 00:23:14.664 We're hiding out in the car 00:23:14.731 --> 00:23:16.500 just barely peeking over the dash. 00:23:16.566 --> 00:23:18.502 We don't even know if that's Lee Chandler. 00:23:18.568 --> 00:23:19.970 It looks like the guy on the driver's licence, 00:23:20.036 --> 00:23:21.838 but we were too far away. 00:23:21.872 --> 00:23:23.373 About half hour later 00:23:23.473 --> 00:23:25.108 the garage door powers open, 00:23:25.175 --> 00:23:27.744 and to my surprise and joy, 00:23:27.844 --> 00:23:29.513 a black Cadillac backs out. 00:23:40.157 --> 00:23:41.725 That's him! 00:23:42.793 --> 00:23:43.994 I can't even describe the scene. 00:23:44.060 --> 00:23:46.329 I am jumping up and down, my head's hitting the roof, 00:23:46.396 --> 00:23:48.832 and I'm going, "That's him, that's that guy!" 00:23:48.899 --> 00:23:50.634 You don't wanna hear the words. 00:23:51.802 --> 00:23:53.570 My partner is pushing my head down, 00:23:53.637 --> 00:23:55.272 going, "You don't wanna to be seen, 00:23:55.338 --> 00:23:56.673 and I'm like, "That's him!" 00:23:56.740 --> 00:23:58.341 I pop back up, he pushed me back down. 00:23:58.375 --> 00:23:59.376 "That's him!" 00:23:59.443 --> 00:24:00.911 He took off for work. 00:24:00.944 --> 00:24:03.747 I'm going, "Get the plate, get the plate, get the plate!" 00:24:04.815 --> 00:24:06.583 It's a personal California plate. 00:24:06.650 --> 00:24:08.919 "Jet Bizz," okay? 00:24:08.952 --> 00:24:11.922 "J.E.T. B.I.Z.Z." 00:24:11.955 --> 00:24:14.424 But as you're watching the car drive down the road, 00:24:14.491 --> 00:24:16.960 the licence frame bounces, 00:24:17.027 --> 00:24:19.463 and you could see where Jane made her mistake. 00:24:19.563 --> 00:24:21.865 The eight is a "B," 00:24:21.932 --> 00:24:24.301 the "I" is a one. 00:24:24.334 --> 00:24:25.435 The "Z..." 00:24:25.502 --> 00:24:26.937 When the plate goes up, 00:24:27.003 --> 00:24:29.406 it covers the "Z" and looks like a seven. 00:24:29.473 --> 00:24:32.108 "8-1-7-7." 00:24:32.209 --> 00:24:34.110 And it was like, wow, 00:24:34.211 --> 00:24:36.079 I mean right there, it was, wow. 00:24:39.282 --> 00:24:42.819 I'm like, he's high up in this airline company 00:24:42.886 --> 00:24:44.888 and he really thinks a lot of himself 00:24:44.955 --> 00:24:47.624 and he got a personal plate that says, "JET BIZZ." 00:24:47.691 --> 00:24:49.926 Jet Business is, y'know, "I'm 'JET BIZZ.'" 00:24:49.993 --> 00:24:51.628 And I'm like, that's perfect. 00:24:51.695 --> 00:24:53.330 Ever since that moment, 00:24:53.430 --> 00:24:55.165 this case was called "JET BIZZ." 00:24:59.069 --> 00:25:01.171 Whenever it's a rape type case, 00:25:01.238 --> 00:25:03.306 it ends up being the victim's testimony 00:25:03.373 --> 00:25:04.975 against the suspect's testimony. 00:25:04.975 --> 00:25:07.511 It ends up being very limited evidence. 00:25:07.577 --> 00:25:10.213 The defense is, "Well, it was consensual," y'know. 00:25:10.280 --> 00:25:13.717 "This what she wanted," and that type of thing. 00:25:13.750 --> 00:25:17.721 So these cases are very, very difficult to prove. 00:25:17.754 --> 00:25:20.524 If someone's of a particular stature 00:25:20.590 --> 00:25:23.493 like Lee being in the aerospace industry 00:25:23.560 --> 00:25:26.496 and being in a high position, 00:25:26.563 --> 00:25:28.732 with a little bit of clout, 00:25:28.832 --> 00:25:32.235 money, attorney, or what-have-you, 00:25:32.302 --> 00:25:35.639 there was a history there where he had gotten away with this. 00:25:35.739 --> 00:25:38.275 So we wanted to proceed very, very carefully. 00:25:40.343 --> 00:25:43.013 I didn't want to tip him off, 00:25:43.113 --> 00:25:44.414 but I need to prove 00:25:44.481 --> 00:25:47.584 this biological evidence from Jane is him. 00:25:47.651 --> 00:25:50.587 So we wanted to get a sample of his DNA. 00:25:53.123 --> 00:25:55.392 There are three main ways 00:25:55.458 --> 00:25:57.093 that we collect DNA. 00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:00.530 You can ask a person to volunteer to give a sample. 00:26:00.630 --> 00:26:02.699 That would be a tip off, of course, 00:26:02.766 --> 00:26:04.768 that this person was under investigation. 00:26:05.835 --> 00:26:07.571 You can get a court order, 00:26:07.637 --> 00:26:09.139 get a warrant to collect 00:26:09.205 --> 00:26:11.808 a person's known DNA profile. 00:26:12.909 --> 00:26:14.844 The third way would be to 00:26:14.911 --> 00:26:17.514 surreptitiously collect a sample. 00:26:17.581 --> 00:26:19.683 The investigators can follow the individual around 00:26:19.749 --> 00:26:22.018 and wait for them to discard something. 00:26:23.053 --> 00:26:25.789 We wanna be able to get as much evidence as possible 00:26:25.855 --> 00:26:28.124 before we make that initial contact with a suspect. 00:26:28.191 --> 00:26:31.061 So we know he's a habitual smoker. 00:26:31.127 --> 00:26:33.863 We know that, y'know, from a discarded cigarette, 00:26:33.930 --> 00:26:35.532 you can get very valuable DNA. 00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:37.200 At the time in California, 00:26:37.233 --> 00:26:38.668 you were allowed to do this. 00:26:38.702 --> 00:26:40.704 We put a tracker, a vehicle tracker, on his car 00:26:40.770 --> 00:26:42.472 so we would be able to follow him. 00:26:43.540 --> 00:26:45.942 Every time his car moved, we followed it. 00:26:46.042 --> 00:26:48.311 He, for like five straight days, 00:26:48.345 --> 00:26:50.780 went to work and straight home. 00:26:54.250 --> 00:26:57.354 I believe it was on a Saturday. 00:26:57.420 --> 00:26:59.689 I was not at work, 00:26:59.756 --> 00:27:01.691 My team that was following him... 00:27:01.758 --> 00:27:04.628 He took off for work, and as he's driving to work, 00:27:04.661 --> 00:27:07.831 he throws a cigarette * out the window on the freeway... 00:27:12.202 --> 00:27:15.138 And the team shut down the entire freeway. 00:27:21.044 --> 00:27:22.679 We stopped the freeway 00:27:22.712 --> 00:27:24.614 to pick up that cigarette *, 00:27:24.681 --> 00:27:26.783 put it into a paper bag, 00:27:26.850 --> 00:27:28.818 and bring it back to the station 00:27:28.885 --> 00:27:31.121 and have it tested. 00:27:31.187 --> 00:27:34.624 That's when I used my DNA friends in forensics 00:27:34.691 --> 00:27:36.693 to say, "This one I need fast." 00:27:45.635 --> 00:27:49.172 As I'm waitin' for the DNA to come back, 00:27:49.272 --> 00:27:50.840 I gotta find my victim... 00:27:50.907 --> 00:27:53.910 Because you've heard the saying, "No victim, no crime," 00:27:53.943 --> 00:27:56.546 and it's been five years. 00:27:56.646 --> 00:27:59.683 The phone number that I had does not work. 00:27:59.749 --> 00:28:01.084 And you would think, 00:28:01.151 --> 00:28:03.586 with all the police databases and all that we have, 00:28:03.653 --> 00:28:04.988 it wouldn't be hard. 00:28:05.055 --> 00:28:06.656 Could not find her. 00:28:06.690 --> 00:28:09.192 Anything I ran, I could not find her. 00:28:10.927 --> 00:28:13.129 I started calling all these people... 00:28:13.196 --> 00:28:15.131 I get a hold of a lady, 00:28:15.198 --> 00:28:17.701 and I just had a feeling that she knew her. 00:28:17.767 --> 00:28:19.202 And I'm like, "Look..." 00:28:19.302 --> 00:28:21.671 At the time, I didn't know it was her mom. 00:28:21.705 --> 00:28:24.040 I said, "If you do know her", 00:28:24.107 --> 00:28:25.575 "mention my name 00:28:25.608 --> 00:28:28.211 "and tell her that she was a victim of a crime 00:28:28.311 --> 00:28:30.313 and I'd like to talk to her." 00:28:32.382 --> 00:28:34.317 Within five minutes the phone rang, 00:28:34.384 --> 00:28:35.985 and it was her. 00:28:37.220 --> 00:28:39.155 First I go, "Do you remember the case 00:28:39.222 --> 00:28:41.357 where you were a victim of a ***ual assault?" 00:28:41.424 --> 00:28:43.359 She goes, "I will never forget it." 00:28:43.426 --> 00:28:45.261 Now, this is a girl who's been 00:28:45.295 --> 00:28:47.163 involved in the *** trade her entire life, 00:28:47.230 --> 00:28:50.667 and she tells me she'll never forget this incident. 00:28:50.767 --> 00:28:53.570 And I go, "Well, I'm thinking that we're about to" 00:28:53.636 --> 00:28:55.772 "make an arrest on the case. 00:28:55.872 --> 00:28:57.907 "I can't tell you who. 00:28:57.974 --> 00:29:01.044 "However, this is gonna be based on biological evidence 00:29:01.144 --> 00:29:03.413 "versus eye witness evidence. 00:29:03.513 --> 00:29:06.249 But you're gonna need to come to court and everything." 00:29:06.316 --> 00:29:08.985 And she goes, "Well, I have a warrant for prostitution. 00:29:09.052 --> 00:29:13.156 I'm not coming back to California if I have a warrant." 00:29:13.223 --> 00:29:15.325 I go, "Well you need to come back" 00:29:15.391 --> 00:29:17.527 "and be a victim on the stand for me, 00:29:17.560 --> 00:29:19.796 and for other victims like you." 00:29:19.896 --> 00:29:21.631 I'm trying to get all my ducks in order here 00:29:21.631 --> 00:29:25.335 so that when I make the arrest I have my victim on board. 00:29:25.401 --> 00:29:28.638 But she just didn't wanna come back and go to jail. 00:29:28.705 --> 00:29:30.907 So we were working out arrangements that where... 00:29:30.974 --> 00:29:34.110 There's a law that you cannot be forced to 00:29:34.177 --> 00:29:37.547 come back to a state to testify and then be arrested. 00:29:37.580 --> 00:29:41.417 And I myself, I'm like, "It's a 10,000 dollar warrant. 00:29:41.484 --> 00:29:44.921 Dismiss in the interest of justice," y'know? 00:29:44.988 --> 00:29:46.923 It's a prostitution warrant, 00:29:46.956 --> 00:29:49.692 y'know, an over-grown traffic ticket." 00:29:50.760 --> 00:29:53.096 But we hadn't worked that all out yet. 00:29:53.196 --> 00:29:56.466 I go, "We work out a way to get rid of that warrant, 00:29:56.566 --> 00:29:59.502 and you come back and testify, will you do it?" 00:30:00.570 --> 00:30:04.007 Finally she said yes, she will come back to California... 00:30:05.408 --> 00:30:08.444 This is before we had his DNA confirmed. 00:30:10.013 --> 00:30:12.282 Today's DNA technology allows us 00:30:12.348 --> 00:30:15.852 to get DNA profiles from things that you can't even see. 00:30:15.952 --> 00:30:18.688 Tiny, minute amounts of blood... 00:30:18.755 --> 00:30:21.724 Skin cells that are being deposited on a surface... 00:30:21.791 --> 00:30:24.727 These are the sorts of things that we enjoy today. 00:30:25.795 --> 00:30:28.331 In the early '90s, 00:30:28.398 --> 00:30:30.500 around 1992, 1993, 00:30:30.600 --> 00:30:33.403 this process known as the polymerase chain reaction, 00:30:33.469 --> 00:30:35.738 or PCR, came around. 00:30:35.805 --> 00:30:38.041 And PCR is this incredible technology 00:30:38.107 --> 00:30:40.243 that allows us to amplify 00:30:40.276 --> 00:30:42.545 small parts of the DNA. 00:30:42.612 --> 00:30:43.980 So we kind of target... 00:30:44.013 --> 00:30:46.482 We don't look at the entire DNA molecule. 00:30:46.549 --> 00:30:48.651 We just target small bits of it, 00:30:48.718 --> 00:30:51.721 amplify those until we have enough to then type them. 00:30:54.891 --> 00:30:56.993 Suddenly we could start looking at 00:30:57.060 --> 00:30:59.662 types of evidence we could never look at before: 00:30:59.729 --> 00:31:01.130 Cigarette *s, 00:31:01.197 --> 00:31:03.199 stamps that people licked, 00:31:03.266 --> 00:31:06.836 soda straws that people drank from. 00:31:06.903 --> 00:31:09.372 Y'know, suddenly we could get access to 00:31:09.439 --> 00:31:11.641 very small stains 00:31:11.674 --> 00:31:14.644 and get very powerful information from it. 00:31:18.281 --> 00:31:20.950 I get contacted by the sheriff's crime lab 00:31:21.017 --> 00:31:24.087 and told that the DNA from the cigarette 00:31:24.153 --> 00:31:27.156 matches Jane's ***ual assault kit 00:31:27.223 --> 00:31:29.359 and also the ***ual assault kit 00:31:29.425 --> 00:31:31.160 taken in Washington. 00:31:32.662 --> 00:31:34.797 It didn't come back to Lee Chandler, 00:31:34.864 --> 00:31:37.767 but because we eye-witnessed him throwing it out, 00:31:37.834 --> 00:31:39.769 we're saying that's Lee Chandler. 00:31:39.836 --> 00:31:44.240 However, I would not go to trial just on that, alright? 00:31:44.307 --> 00:31:48.344 I would want what I'd call a fresh sample, a clean sample. 00:31:51.080 --> 00:31:53.316 Right now we got enough to say 00:31:53.383 --> 00:31:55.618 that's the guy that raped her, alright? 00:31:55.685 --> 00:31:57.954 So I get an arrest warrant 00:31:58.054 --> 00:32:00.156 for attempted murder, 00:32:00.223 --> 00:32:02.825 kidnapping, rape, sodomy. 00:32:02.892 --> 00:32:05.628 Also I get a new warrant for his DNA. 00:32:06.696 --> 00:32:08.798 It was an exciting point 00:32:08.865 --> 00:32:11.367 'cause we had put so much time into this. 00:32:11.434 --> 00:32:13.803 The next phase of the operation goes into play. 00:32:13.870 --> 00:32:16.139 We've got the search warrant and an arrest warrant, 00:32:16.205 --> 00:32:18.274 and the plan was to arrest him 00:32:18.341 --> 00:32:20.009 early in the morning at his home. 00:32:20.076 --> 00:32:22.879 We don't want this to turn into a pursuit, 00:32:22.979 --> 00:32:26.182 or anything where someone's gonna be endangered. 00:32:31.254 --> 00:32:35.091 We team up, and we go out at seven o'clock in the morning. 00:32:35.124 --> 00:32:38.094 All our plain cars park in front of his house. 00:32:38.127 --> 00:32:39.629 Come in real quick, 00:32:39.729 --> 00:32:42.131 go up to the door, knock on the door... 00:32:50.206 --> 00:32:52.408 Lee Chandler comes to the door. 00:32:52.475 --> 00:32:54.410 I'm wearing a police vest at that time, 00:32:54.477 --> 00:32:56.079 so it's obvious who I am. 00:32:56.946 --> 00:32:59.282 He's very shocked and confused. 00:32:59.382 --> 00:33:02.385 "Chandler, you're under arrest for attempt murder, 00:33:02.418 --> 00:33:05.054 kidnapping, rape, sodomy." 00:33:05.121 --> 00:33:07.557 And he turns and says, "Whoa, whoa, whoa!" 00:33:07.623 --> 00:33:09.759 "We took care of this in Washington. 00:33:09.792 --> 00:33:11.761 We've already taken care of this." 00:33:16.132 --> 00:33:17.767 Day I put the handcuffs on him... 00:33:17.834 --> 00:33:19.435 That was my biggest satisfaction. 00:33:24.907 --> 00:33:29.278 He was a very violent ***ual predator. 00:33:29.345 --> 00:33:31.347 And in our Santa Ana case, 00:33:31.414 --> 00:33:34.550 he actually left the woman * in a dumpster, 00:33:34.617 --> 00:33:37.186 and he probably thought she was dead. 00:33:37.253 --> 00:33:40.523 So by saying that, y'know, 00:33:40.590 --> 00:33:44.193 at least made it believable it was a matter of time before, 00:33:44.260 --> 00:33:47.330 y'know, maybe he brutally attacks another female victim 00:33:47.430 --> 00:33:48.998 and kills her. 00:33:59.175 --> 00:34:01.110 At the station, 00:34:01.177 --> 00:34:03.112 this is gonna be a big interview, 00:34:03.179 --> 00:34:05.081 because I've done my research 00:34:05.114 --> 00:34:07.016 on all the interviews he's ever been involved in, 00:34:07.050 --> 00:34:08.751 all the police reports I could find. 00:34:08.818 --> 00:34:11.054 He has controlled every interview 00:34:11.120 --> 00:34:13.122 that I could find him being involved in, 00:34:13.189 --> 00:34:14.557 controlling everything. 00:34:14.624 --> 00:34:17.193 And I'm like, this guy is not gonna control me. 00:34:17.226 --> 00:34:19.662 So my interview is gonna be at in house, 00:34:19.729 --> 00:34:21.664 and he's not gonna control me. 00:34:22.899 --> 00:34:25.001 I need a confession. 00:34:25.068 --> 00:34:27.003 I wanna just finish this thing completely. 00:34:27.070 --> 00:34:28.404 I want a confession. 00:34:28.471 --> 00:34:30.940 Charges against you of rape, assault... 00:34:31.007 --> 00:34:33.109 I read him his Miranda rights. 00:34:33.209 --> 00:34:35.411 He says, "I'm gonna invoke my rights. 00:34:35.478 --> 00:34:36.579 I'm not gonna talk." 00:34:36.612 --> 00:34:38.581 I won't be speaking without an attorney. 00:34:38.614 --> 00:34:40.016 I think I made that clear. 00:34:40.083 --> 00:34:42.018 I said, "Well, thank you very much," 00:34:42.085 --> 00:34:44.053 stood up, opened the door, 00:34:44.120 --> 00:34:45.922 basically, "Takin' him down to booking!" 00:34:45.988 --> 00:34:49.258 And I hear, "Hey, hey, hey! I got some questions." 00:34:49.325 --> 00:34:50.960 I go, "In order to do that, 00:34:51.027 --> 00:34:52.929 I'm gonna have to read your rights again." 00:34:52.995 --> 00:34:54.397 He goes, "Alright, read 'em again." 00:34:54.497 --> 00:34:56.099 So I read him his rights again. 00:34:56.165 --> 00:34:57.600 He said he understood his rights. 00:34:57.633 --> 00:34:59.268 I said, "Now, with your rights in mind, 00:34:59.335 --> 00:35:00.803 I'd like to ask you some questions." 00:35:00.870 --> 00:35:03.072 Taking over the control in an interview 00:35:03.139 --> 00:35:05.708 can sometimes be a strategy 00:35:05.775 --> 00:35:07.410 we find that good liars do 00:35:07.510 --> 00:35:09.412 when they're being questioned by the police. 00:35:09.512 --> 00:35:12.081 They try and actively engage them. 00:35:12.148 --> 00:35:13.516 We find that distracts them 00:35:13.549 --> 00:35:15.751 from paying attention to the specifics of the story. 00:35:16.819 --> 00:35:19.522 So he says, "Well, what do you wanna ask me?" 00:35:19.622 --> 00:35:20.990 I say, "Let's start off with 00:35:21.057 --> 00:35:22.992 have you ever been arrested before?" 00:35:23.059 --> 00:35:24.660 He says, "Cut the crap. 00:35:24.694 --> 00:35:26.329 You know what I've been arrested for." 00:35:26.395 --> 00:35:28.664 And this kind of, to me, tells me this guy, 00:35:28.731 --> 00:35:30.800 y'know, he knows the game. 00:35:31.901 --> 00:35:34.537 And he goes, "I wanna see the charges." 00:35:34.637 --> 00:35:37.273 I made a mistake there by... I showed him the warrant. 00:35:37.340 --> 00:35:38.941 It had the date. 00:35:39.008 --> 00:35:42.645 I could tell right now he recognized the date. 00:35:42.678 --> 00:35:45.081 And I go, "I wanna talk to you about" 00:35:45.148 --> 00:35:47.450 "a case that happened five years ago, 00:35:47.550 --> 00:35:50.553 a rape and attempt murder of a prostitute..." 00:35:50.653 --> 00:35:53.322 And he says, "I'm not talking." 00:35:56.759 --> 00:35:59.462 We didn't want this to be 00:35:59.529 --> 00:36:01.864 another case that he gets away with. 00:36:01.931 --> 00:36:03.900 We wanted, y'know, justice for our victim. 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:05.468 So we proceeded carefully. 00:36:05.535 --> 00:36:08.471 We knew that we needed confirmation DNA. 00:36:11.874 --> 00:36:16.345 So I said, "Okay, I have a warrant for your DNA." 00:36:16.379 --> 00:36:18.614 He says, "Well, you're not getting that. 00:36:18.648 --> 00:36:20.283 I'm not gonna give it to you." 00:36:20.349 --> 00:36:23.986 And I say, "Well, this is what's kind of" "cool about this warrant. 00:36:24.020 --> 00:36:27.523 "It's a judge ordering me to take your DNA. 00:36:27.623 --> 00:36:30.893 "The only choice you have is whether you wanna do 00:36:30.993 --> 00:36:34.397 a swab in the mouth or a blood test." 00:36:36.132 --> 00:36:38.401 And he says, "I want my lawyer." 00:36:38.467 --> 00:36:40.903 "You can't have a lawyer on this part of it. 00:36:41.003 --> 00:36:43.105 This is a judge's order, and it's gonna happen." 00:36:45.174 --> 00:36:47.643 And he freely gave up his blood. 00:36:47.677 --> 00:36:50.746 'Cause we wanted to make sure that cigarette on the freeway 00:36:50.813 --> 00:36:53.649 wasn't just the trillion and one chance 00:36:53.749 --> 00:36:55.585 that the guy that raped both these people 00:36:55.651 --> 00:36:56.953 were driving down the freeway 00:36:57.019 --> 00:36:59.855 and threw out a cigarette and we picked up the wrong one. 00:37:02.925 --> 00:37:05.394 We go for his preliminary hearing. 00:37:05.461 --> 00:37:07.763 It's the first court day after his arrest. 00:37:07.830 --> 00:37:10.099 Judge orders a million dollar bail. 00:37:10.166 --> 00:37:11.901 So we're booking him, 00:37:11.968 --> 00:37:13.603 I believe it's on a Friday, 00:37:13.669 --> 00:37:15.137 and he should not see 00:37:15.204 --> 00:37:17.807 a bail hearing until Monday. 00:37:17.873 --> 00:37:19.909 So we're thinking, we're under the assumption, 00:37:19.976 --> 00:37:22.144 that he's gonna be spending the weekend in jail. 00:37:23.212 --> 00:37:24.547 Monday morning, 00:37:24.614 --> 00:37:27.516 I'm going to my usual breakfast spot, 00:37:27.583 --> 00:37:29.685 and as I'm driving down the road, 00:37:29.785 --> 00:37:32.722 I get a call from Deputy DA Robert Mesmen. 00:37:32.788 --> 00:37:35.424 And he says, "Jet Bizz killed himself." 00:37:35.458 --> 00:37:37.226 And I'm like, "Hold it." 00:37:37.293 --> 00:37:39.562 "I need to pull the car over, okay? 00:37:39.629 --> 00:37:40.963 What're you talkin' about?" 00:37:41.063 --> 00:37:43.099 I go, "He's still in jail." 00:37:43.165 --> 00:37:45.601 He goes, "No, Jet Bizz is dead." 00:37:46.702 --> 00:37:49.839 Apparently on Friday night he was able to make bail, 00:37:49.905 --> 00:37:52.008 and he was released on Friday night. 00:37:52.074 --> 00:37:53.976 And that's why he was out of jail. 00:37:54.076 --> 00:37:55.978 And over the weekend 00:37:56.078 --> 00:37:58.648 he went to his father's grave 00:37:58.714 --> 00:38:00.816 in Inglewood, California, 00:38:00.883 --> 00:38:02.218 knelt down beside it, 00:38:02.285 --> 00:38:03.719 drank some alcohol, 00:38:03.819 --> 00:38:05.187 and took his father's gun 00:38:05.254 --> 00:38:07.356 and placed it to his head and killed himself. 00:38:16.866 --> 00:38:18.467 For some people, 00:38:18.467 --> 00:38:22.505 that element of maintaining control and power in one's life 00:38:22.571 --> 00:38:25.508 will include taking their own life 00:38:25.574 --> 00:38:27.576 once they feel they're going to be caught. 00:38:27.643 --> 00:38:29.478 They refuse to submit to 00:38:29.545 --> 00:38:31.380 the authority of law or the court 00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:33.883 and they're gonna retain control and kill themselves 00:38:33.949 --> 00:38:35.851 to be in charge of their own destiny. 00:38:39.789 --> 00:38:42.491 I know the victim wants, y'know, justice to be served, 00:38:42.558 --> 00:38:44.827 so it's kinda disappointing. 00:38:44.894 --> 00:38:46.896 But at the same time, 00:38:46.962 --> 00:38:50.166 there's a little bit of a sense of relief that, 00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:52.802 y'know, it just confirms what we knew. 00:38:52.868 --> 00:38:54.970 It confirms that, 00:38:55.071 --> 00:38:58.674 although he might have denied any involvement in these cases, 00:38:58.741 --> 00:39:00.343 y'know... 00:39:00.376 --> 00:39:03.179 no one commits suicide if you're innocent. 00:39:05.214 --> 00:39:07.817 I re-contact Jane, 00:39:07.883 --> 00:39:10.319 and I say, "Jane, about your case..." 00:39:10.386 --> 00:39:11.821 "The guy's name was Lee Chandler. 00:39:11.887 --> 00:39:13.289 "He's the guy that raped you. 00:39:13.356 --> 00:39:16.025 "There's no question about it, this is the guy. 00:39:16.092 --> 00:39:18.194 Last night, he killed himself." 00:39:21.664 --> 00:39:24.767 She actually gulps and kind of starts to cry 00:39:24.834 --> 00:39:26.669 and then says, "Thank you." 00:39:26.736 --> 00:39:29.472 And that's the last time I've ever talked to her. 00:39:32.775 --> 00:39:36.645 CODIS is a tool that solved the case for me 00:39:36.712 --> 00:39:39.148 and gave closure to Jane. 00:39:43.619 --> 00:39:46.055 Honestly, without that CODIS hit, 00:39:46.122 --> 00:39:49.024 we would've never made an arrest on that case, y'know, 00:39:49.091 --> 00:39:51.994 'cause that was that critical piece of evidence 00:39:52.061 --> 00:39:53.929 that pointed us in the right direction 00:39:53.996 --> 00:39:55.631 in regards to a potential suspect.