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It's beautiful, isn't it?

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The Eternals is definitely
a very ambitious film.

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You've got 10 new characters.

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It spans 7,000 years.

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You're on Earth, but you're also in space.

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You're all over the planet.

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Yeah, the scope and the scale of it
is huge.

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I mean, it's, I would argue,
our most ambitious film ever,

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and that's in a MCU that has Endgame.

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Almost anything you can think of.

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There are monsters,
there are giant space gods.

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There's also a love story.

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It's part of why it got us excited
as filmmakers.

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We've made 25 plus movies
at Marvel Studios,

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but this does feel distinctly different
than anything we've done before.

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This is a new world.

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I think that's the thing
that's incredible about Marvel,

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it's an incredibly complex universe.

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I really think
Eternals is the most epic movie

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that Marvel's done.

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It's literally the highest stakes

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that any MCU superhero
has had to deal with so far.

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By the end of this film,

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how we look at the MCU
and the Earth itself will change.

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The impact the Eternals will have
on the MCU

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will be nothing less than redefining
the Cinematic Universe entirely.

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My initial vision for the film

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can be summed up
in the William Blake poem.

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"To see the World

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"in a Grain of Sand

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"And a Heaven in a Wild Flower.

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"Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand

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"And Eternity in an hour."

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When I went in to pitch
without saying anything,

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that's what I did.

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The vision for the film is
how can we capture something so epic

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and intimate at the same time,

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something as epic
as the creation of the sun

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and as intimate as
the soft whispers of a lover?

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And how to have these moments
coexist in the film?

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And that was the challenge.

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I'm not quite sure how it happened.

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I had just made The Rider at the time.

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So, when I got a call to come in
to meet Nate Moore,

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I was very surprised and happy
about Eternals.

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We always look for directors
that inspire us

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and who get great performances.

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And I had seen Chloé's first film,

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and then I saw The Rider
and thought it was amazing.

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The very first conversation
I had with Nate

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was very much about, obviously,
the stories and characters,

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but also what I can contribute.

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Right away we dive into,
one is, what are we doing,

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but also how we're doing it.

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Because how we're making this film

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is going to define
what this film's gonna become.

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Chloé has a very specific vision
for the movie.

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Because of the way she shoots,
it feels extra personal.

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So, you get the sensation
that you're making

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almost like an independent film
that is huge.

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When I heard she's doin' a Marvel movie,
I was like,

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"Oh, God, I'd love to be a part of that."

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And see how she gets in behind this
superhero world and makes it her own.

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Chloé Zhao, who comes out of a more
naturalistic style of filmmaking,

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really pressed us to figure out

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how to shoot more of this
on practical location,

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which, again, is challenging
just from a logistical standpoint

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of getting your crew to different places.

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Finding places that you can shoot outside,
battling rain and the elements,

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it's challenging.

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It's hard on your crew,
it's hard on your cast,

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it's hard on our VFX team.

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But it's all in service of
an aesthetic that's totally different.

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That's a challenge we wanted to take on.

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It's definitely a challenge,
but it's a challenge I love.

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Because I came in both as a filmmaker
who wants to tell a story

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but also as a fan.

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For me, the MCU is a place with
great characters and great adventures.

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And it's very obvious
it is made by a team of people

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who really love the genre
and love their fans.

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It is time.

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Marvel Studios and
the Marvel Cinematic Universe

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is now past their 10th anniversary.

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And with the release of
the final Avengers movie,

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we finally completed
a 22-movie Infinity saga.

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Where do we go from there?
Where do we start?

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And what we really wanted to do
was two things.

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Start fresh with whole new characters,
new storylines,

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but actually go back to some of
the deepest, richest mythology

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in all of Marvel Comics.

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And when you look at
the myth-builders of Marvel,

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Jack Kirby, he's called King Kirby
for a reason,

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and he created The Eternals
many years ago,

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which is one of the most mythologically
rich storylines in the history of Marvel.

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It really gives us
a rich canvas to play with,

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not just the Marvel canvas,

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but the actual historical mythologies
of our world.

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The Eternals in the comics were
created by Jack Kirby in the late 1970s.

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It was his second stint at Marvel,

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and he was looking to do something
cosmic and completely new.

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And in the comics, much like our film,

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their job was
to protect humanity long enough

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for the Celestials to come back and judge

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whether humanity was worthy of
joining them in the stars.

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In our film, I think they share
a very similar origin.

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In the comics, the Celestials
came to Earth, found early man,

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and did an experiment.
They created the Deviants,

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which were a failed experiment.

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And then seeing that they sort of failed,

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they created the Eternals
as a counterpoint.

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Kirby created a world that was
so exciting and interesting,

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but it was grounded in human history

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and treated like
it could live in our world.

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I do love the mythology behind it,

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and I love that he was able to bring
space mythology

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with human mythology of the planet Earth

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and that he combined that together
and created characters

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that experienced that.

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And gave us an opportunity to be able
to re-learn about our own history.

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We're really excited
to explore the origins

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of the entire
Marvel Cinematic Universe in our film.

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We're looking at, for the first time,
meeting the Celestials face to face,

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And you've sort of seen
glimpses of them in other films.

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The Celestials we have hinted at
in earlier films,

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Guardians of the Galaxy, Knowhere,
the base of operations for the Collector,

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is in fact a Celestial head.

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The Celestials are such a cornerstone
of Marvel storytelling in publishing

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and we wanna make them equally important
to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

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At its heart, Eternals is an epic.

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It's about immortality.
It's about identity, it's about duty.

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And we're exploring all these things

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that so many amazing superheroes
have done before.

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But specifically we're looking at it
over the course of the entirety of

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mankind's history here on Earth.

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To talk a little about the process,
we were given 800 pages of research.

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All the comics, every graphic novel,
everything about this universe,

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"Here you go. Go make up a movie."

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And we spent four weeks, five weeks
really just thinking

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and bashing our heads against the wall
and coming up with this world.

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The Eternals has had three runs in comics
spanning over the last 30 or 40 years.

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I mean, we're endlessly inspired
by all of King Kirby's works

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and Neil Gaiman's run with The Eternals.

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The expectation,
I think, by our fans,

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is that we're really going to mine from
the Neil Gaiman early 2000s run.

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And that, to a lot of degrees,
is the most popular of The Eternals runs,

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but for us, the true inspiration was from
Jack Kirby's original 1976 run.

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And that is partially because he really
did steep that in our world history,

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the history of the Aztecs.

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A lot of his design language,
a lot of his, even narrative inspiration

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was from the history of the world.

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I have seen them fight and lie and kill...

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but I have also seen them...

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laugh and love.

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What I like about
the story of Eternals

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is that we're going back to
the beginning of our civilization

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to see that actually,
they've been among us,

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and they've been helping us
for all this time.

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We're able to look at
real historical events.

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We're able to look at the tragedies
and our greatest moments

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and look at it through the lens of
what it means to be here on this planet.

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This planet...

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and these people...

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have changed me.

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And that afforded us an opportunity
to go back in time

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and see things we haven't seen before.

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Not only in the Marvel Universe,
but as filmmakers,

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things that we don't get to see
a lot in film, frankly.

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Ancient Mesopotamia
at the very dawn of civilization

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and ancient Babylon, which is to most
historians the cradle of civilization.

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The Gupta Empire at 200 AD.

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It's a time period that we felt
we hadn't seen before a lot in cinema,

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but was very rich with
a lot of historical facts

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that even us as filmmakers
didn't know about.

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Why didn't you guys help fight Thanos?

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Or any war? Or all the other
terrible things throughout history?

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We were instructed
not to interfere in any human conflicts

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unless Deviants were involved.

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Initially, trying to define
what these Deviants were,

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we started looking
at ancient monsters from old stories.

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You know,
from the Greeks and the Egyptians.

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Chloé wanted something very unique.

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We wanted to have something
that was alien,

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but also add shapes
that we could kinda recognize.

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Like, at the beginning
of the film, in Mesopotamia,

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they're much bigger,
they're like dinosaurs.

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They're huge monsters.

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And as they evolve and as the time passes,

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they become more like animals
that we see nowadays.

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So, there was all that
kind of storytelling aspect of it

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and that was informing
the design of the Deviants.

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Even though The Eternals
takes place over 10,000 years

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and there's these different elements

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at the same time, Kevin and Nate,
through the whole process

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have just constantly promoted character.

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It's important to know the tone

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and the genre of the movie
you're trying to make.

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And the action to some degree, I think,
and I think our fans would agree...

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Run!

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...is secondary to the storytelling,

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to what is the emotional core of
this movie, and why is that special

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and why is that moving.

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Because if the emotional core
and the characters aren't there,

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then there's no attachment to
whatever happens to Iron Man or Thor.

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In this case, the Eternals.

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We're very much focusing on the family
dynamic of this group of Eternals.

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There's layers to this movie.
There's a great sci-fi adventure

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that spans through time.

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And then underneath that,
there's a very complex family drama.

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And then underneath that is a love story.

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And then at the core of it actually,
I think, is the journey of self-discovery.

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Our film is really led by Sersi,
this complex and flawed female hero

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who really is, I think, our most human
hero in the MCU that we've ever seen.

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Ethereal.

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Observant.

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Sweetness.

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The future.

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Sersi is an empath,
and she can manipulate matter.

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She can turn things into other things,

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she also doesn't quite understand
the extent of her powers.

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She is a very creative person. I think,
what excites me about her character is

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she doesn't really punch anybody.

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You know, her power comes from
her curiosity.

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Therefore, she's an artist.

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And she has a deep connection to nature.

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You know, she's curious about humanity,
the way other Eternals might not be.

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Sersi in the comics,
she has this lust for life

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that often isn't seen in
stories about immortality.

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She finds the beauty
in having been alive for so long

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because she pulls upon
her experiences and her memories

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and thinks of them fondly.

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So that positive take is what
drew us to her as our protagonist.

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Conflicted.

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Passion.

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Mysterious.

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Amazing.

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Ikaris carries the weight of the world
on his shoulders.

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He is the loyal soldier.

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He wrestles with what's right
for him as a being

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and what's right for the greater good.

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So...

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Ikaris.

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Sersi and Ikaris have been
on and off for about 5,000 years

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so, yes, pretty long-term.

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I guess you can call that long-term.

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I think they look at humanity
very differently.

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One analogy I really like is that

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when Sersi sees a desert,
she sees grains of sand

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and she finds beauty
in every grain of sand.

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But Ikaris doesn't really see that.

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He's looking at, "Okay, now
there's danger in the desert.

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"We need to go." Then they
fall in love with each other

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because they love seeing the world
through each other's eyes.

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You know, they've hurt each other
in the past.

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5,000 years, they've been through
everything together,

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and there's real love there
and a lot of history.

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I think like all great love stories,

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films like Casablanca,
there are ups and downs.

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And the kind of burden
they carry for the film,

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the evolution of humanity have affected
how they feel about who they are.

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Technology.

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Inventor.

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Smart.

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Smart.

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Protective.

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Phastos is basically
the technopath,

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which means
I can use my mind and my energy

00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:01.920
to literally assemble anything
out of any technology.

00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:05.550
Everything he does, he wants...
It's for the advancement of humankind.

00:15:05.630 --> 00:15:08.930
He has so much faith in humanity.
He's so passionate

00:15:09.010 --> 00:15:13.680
and, unfortunately as humans, we don't
always live up to his expectations.

00:15:14.100 --> 00:15:18.440
At some point in his life,
he really changed his view of humankind

00:15:18.520 --> 00:15:20.060
and just shut down.

00:15:20.150 --> 00:15:23.900
And what I do love about his arc
is that you watch him care again.

00:15:23.980 --> 00:15:28.280
For Phastos, who is that person who moves
from his heart and moves from his soul,

00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:32.700
he's trying to restore that in himself
and restore it in others around him.

00:15:32.780 --> 00:15:36.700
He's very much a emotional core for
many, many of the moments in the film.

00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:38.830
There were more Deviants than you said.

00:15:38.920 --> 00:15:40.750
Well, I'm sure that was
a lot of fun for you.

00:15:40.830 --> 00:15:41.880
It was.

00:15:44.340 --> 00:15:45.340
Fight.

00:15:45.880 --> 00:15:47.090
Erratic.

00:15:47.170 --> 00:15:48.170
Warrior.

00:15:48.260 --> 00:15:49.260
Warrior.

00:15:49.340 --> 00:15:50.470
Warrior.

00:15:50.550 --> 00:15:51.760
Fragile.

00:15:54.140 --> 00:15:57.890
Thena is a warrior
and fights so fearlessly,

00:15:57.980 --> 00:15:59.560
and that's all she loves to do.

00:16:00.810 --> 00:16:02.360
She's the goddess of war.

00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:05.860
She can manifest
different weapons in her hands,

00:16:05.940 --> 00:16:08.650
which is complicated
when you're preparing or training.

00:16:08.740 --> 00:16:12.070
I kept asking what my weapon was gonna be
so I could practice with it.

00:16:12.160 --> 00:16:13.830
And I would just get weapons sent to me.

00:16:13.910 --> 00:16:16.490
But I kept getting so many weapons
until I realized

00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:19.580
it was gonna
be a combination of all of them.

00:16:22.040 --> 00:16:26.460
When she's not fighting, she doesn't
know where she belongs and how to be.

00:16:26.550 --> 00:16:28.840
She's quiet and very observant.

00:16:29.300 --> 00:16:33.470
And I would say has to go through
one of, if not the biggest obstacle,

00:16:33.550 --> 00:16:34.600
in this film.

00:16:36.190 --> 00:16:37.190
Strong.

00:16:40.450 --> 00:16:41.460
Provider.

00:16:42.520 --> 00:16:43.610
Special brew.

00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:46.820
*y, maybe.

00:16:47.950 --> 00:16:50.110
Gilgamesh is the strongest
of the Eternals.

00:16:50.570 --> 00:16:55.200
He is a protector. His specialties
are punch, strong punch.

00:16:55.290 --> 00:16:58.250
I should say big punch. Yeah.

00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:00.750
Gilgamesh has got the biggest heart.

00:17:00.830 --> 00:17:03.670
He's very loyal.
He always puts his friends first.

00:17:03.750 --> 00:17:06.010
It's a fun-loving, entertaining character.

00:17:06.130 --> 00:17:08.920
I feel like I'm a big brother
for my family.

00:17:09.050 --> 00:17:10.470
He's the lovable teddy bear.

00:17:10.550 --> 00:17:14.010
He doesn't take things too seriously.
He takes time to stop and enjoy life.

00:17:14.100 --> 00:17:16.810
Gilgamesh asked Druig
to put me to sleep once.

00:17:16.890 --> 00:17:18.890
So I could take a vacation to Fiji,
you know?

00:17:20.230 --> 00:17:23.980
He's also the best cook.
If there is a holiday or a party,

00:17:24.070 --> 00:17:25.730
you wanna want to go to Gilgamesh's house.

00:17:26.350 --> 00:17:27.390
Sarcasm.

00:17:28.350 --> 00:17:29.350
So cute.

00:17:31.130 --> 00:17:32.180
Tragic.

00:17:33.470 --> 00:17:36.430
Sprite can create illusions.
She's really fiery.

00:17:36.510 --> 00:17:37.760
A little bit of a temper.

00:17:37.850 --> 00:17:39.930
- Right?
- You abandoned me in Macedonia.

00:17:40.310 --> 00:17:43.770
Sprite is someone who's
lived forever, stuck in a child's body.

00:17:43.850 --> 00:17:48.730
And that's not easy. She is actually
the most mature of all the Eternals.

00:17:48.940 --> 00:17:51.820
One of the most interesting things
about the Gaiman run of the comics

00:17:51.900 --> 00:17:53.530
is the way he handles Sprite.

00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:56.780
He gave it a new level
of tragedy and nuance,

00:17:56.870 --> 00:18:01.000
and I think that caused us to wanna make
her an important character in our film.

00:18:01.080 --> 00:18:04.750
All she's ever wanted is to be able to
experience a beautiful life

00:18:04.830 --> 00:18:08.500
and be able to be a child
and go through that experience.

00:18:08.590 --> 00:18:11.170
For Sprite,
it's a very emotional journey for her

00:18:11.260 --> 00:18:12.380
to find her place.

00:18:17.010 --> 00:18:18.220
Oh, no, you didn't.

00:18:19.560 --> 00:18:20.560
Yearning.

00:18:21.470 --> 00:18:22.480
Passion.

00:18:25.270 --> 00:18:26.270
Jerk.

00:18:26.600 --> 00:18:27.610
Druig *s.

00:18:28.110 --> 00:18:29.110
He does, sir.

00:18:30.650 --> 00:18:32.740
Druig. He's mind control.

00:18:33.280 --> 00:18:35.530
He stands for what he believes in.

00:18:36.280 --> 00:18:38.870
And if that decision puts him
in a division with the others,

00:18:38.950 --> 00:18:40.080
he's not afraid of that.

00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:42.370
He's very idealistic
and he's very philosophical.

00:18:42.450 --> 00:18:45.290
He is someone that if he likes you, great.

00:18:45.370 --> 00:18:47.580
If he doesn't like you,
you better watch out.

00:18:48.710 --> 00:18:50.840
Walking down the steps of the Aztec,

00:18:52.130 --> 00:18:53.840
the set itself was unreal.

00:18:54.840 --> 00:18:59.510
Very, very tricky because the steps were
very, very steep, you know,

00:18:59.600 --> 00:19:02.180
and I had to look at the camera
when I'm walking down.

00:19:02.270 --> 00:19:05.440
Just hoped that I get the next step
and, you know, play it cool.

00:19:06.020 --> 00:19:08.560
Then everyone in costume
and then to be standin' up,

00:19:08.650 --> 00:19:10.610
and everyone drops. It's like...

00:19:10.900 --> 00:19:12.690
That was a superhero moment, that.

00:19:15.990 --> 00:19:16.430
Showboat.

00:19:16.530 --> 00:19:16.930
Show-off.

00:19:17.080 --> 00:19:18.080
Charisma.

00:19:18.270 --> 00:19:19.270
Funny dude.

00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:21.520
Joy.

00:19:21.900 --> 00:19:24.860
Kingo. Kingo loves life.

00:19:25.430 --> 00:19:29.050
So, Kingo is this guy
who's always been pretty flashy.

00:19:29.140 --> 00:19:31.810
He's always wanted
people to know he's a superhero,

00:19:31.890 --> 00:19:32.880
but he can't reveal that.

00:19:33.110 --> 00:19:34.990
Superhero, movie star.

00:19:35.150 --> 00:19:37.530
Well, I am. But I am also...

00:19:39.110 --> 00:19:40.410
an Eternal.

00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:44.930
Fast.

00:19:46.380 --> 00:19:47.630
Super-fast.

00:19:49.560 --> 00:19:51.640
Makkari is the fastest woman
in the universe.

00:19:51.730 --> 00:19:54.440
She uses her cosmic energy
to run at accelerated rates.

00:19:54.520 --> 00:19:56.770
But she can also break the sound barrier

00:19:56.860 --> 00:19:59.820
so she can create these amazing
concussive blasts of sound,

00:19:59.900 --> 00:20:01.610
which makes her very powerful in battle.

00:20:04.270 --> 00:20:06.230
Anyone who's met Lauren
has seen her energy.

00:20:06.320 --> 00:20:09.150
She really pushed us
to use sign language in the film.

00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:11.450
And her husband, Doug, ended up being
a sign language interpreter for us as well

00:20:11.630 --> 00:20:13.760
and helped the other actors learn to sign.

00:20:14.290 --> 00:20:16.840
She gave us rules
by which we could run a set

00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:19.340
that would be friendly
for someone who is deaf.

00:20:19.420 --> 00:20:22.050
She brought a lot of that knowledge
into our production

00:20:22.130 --> 00:20:24.090
so that we could do things the right way.

00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:27.200
Leader.

00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:29.660
- Maternal.
- Mother.

00:20:29.950 --> 00:20:30.950
Mama.

00:20:33.940 --> 00:20:34.940
Love.

00:20:36.150 --> 00:20:39.360
Ajak is kind of
the leader of the Eternals.

00:20:39.900 --> 00:20:45.570
The way she approaches this leadership
is from the perspective of motherhood.

00:20:46.080 --> 00:20:50.200
So, she has a special relationship
with each one of them.

00:20:50.750 --> 00:20:53.120
She's both the mother and a teacher.

00:20:53.210 --> 00:20:55.250
She's both loving, but also tough.

00:20:56.090 --> 00:20:59.710
And she has some big, big decisions
to make in the film.

00:21:00.170 --> 00:21:04.760
I had a very important moment for me
in this film, personally.

00:21:06.050 --> 00:21:08.390
I have a scene
where you have to ride a horse.

00:21:09.220 --> 00:21:12.480
And I had an accident with a horse
many, many years ago.

00:21:14.020 --> 00:21:16.360
So, I didn't get on horses.

00:21:17.770 --> 00:21:23.530
And I freed myself
from my past, from my fear.

00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:27.910
And I was able to just
gallop with the horse and feel...

00:21:28.490 --> 00:21:32.290
And I really didn't know
if I was gonna be able to do it.

00:21:32.370 --> 00:21:34.330
But I wanted to do it.

00:21:34.420 --> 00:21:37.460
And I think it even helped me
with the character.

00:21:37.540 --> 00:21:40.250
For the character,
it was a freeing experience for me.

00:21:43.760 --> 00:21:46.930
I think, for me, each of these characters
and the journey,

00:21:47.010 --> 00:21:48.930
the emotional journey they go through,

00:21:49.010 --> 00:21:52.640
represents an aspect of human nature.

00:21:53.930 --> 00:21:59.190
And a exploration of the duality
in each of us.

00:21:59.270 --> 00:22:04.990
So, in a way, what they picked up from us,
that they love or hate,

00:22:05.070 --> 00:22:08.620
say a lot about who they are,
but also say a lot about who we are.

00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:11.950
- And action.
- And action!

00:22:14.870 --> 00:22:18.170
I think it was very cleverly cast,
this movie.

00:22:18.250 --> 00:22:22.670
Every single one of us
is bizarrely right for the role.

00:22:22.760 --> 00:22:27.090
Everybody is unique and special
and loving and giving.

00:22:27.550 --> 00:22:30.510
When I cast, you know,
in all the films I've made before,

00:22:30.600 --> 00:22:35.850
I'm trying to see how much of this
character that's already in this person.

00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:39.610
That excites me the most.
As much as possible.

00:22:39.690 --> 00:22:43.780
So then, they're going to bring an aspect
of who they are on screen.

00:22:43.860 --> 00:22:45.280
There's a camera.

00:22:45.360 --> 00:22:47.490
It will capture something
that I can never plan

00:22:47.570 --> 00:22:50.200
and I can never write,
and that process excites me.

00:22:50.280 --> 00:22:53.040
There was definitely some
unexpected relationships and dynamics

00:22:53.120 --> 00:22:55.500
that came about
that I would never have thought

00:22:55.580 --> 00:22:57.460
just from reading the script
off the pages,

00:22:57.540 --> 00:22:59.040
once you get the actors together.

00:22:59.120 --> 00:23:02.800
I really loved having one-on-one scenes
with each of the actors in the cast,

00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:04.920
and we really discovered
unexpected things.

00:23:05.010 --> 00:23:06.260
I think we're very fortunate.

00:23:06.340 --> 00:23:08.260
The first time
they got in the room together,

00:23:08.340 --> 00:23:11.600
the sparks were just flying.
I was like, "Okay," you know?

00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:15.020
You never expect to see these people
in the same room in the real world.

00:23:15.100 --> 00:23:16.930
They come from different backgrounds,

00:23:17.020 --> 00:23:18.890
and they come from
different life experiences.

00:23:18.980 --> 00:23:20.980
But there is something about
each of my cast.

00:23:21.060 --> 00:23:23.520
There's just a bit of a misfit about them.

00:23:23.610 --> 00:23:25.190
They carry something quite special.

00:23:25.280 --> 00:23:27.190
And that, I think, unites them as a family

00:23:27.280 --> 00:23:29.530
because the Eternals lives
on the periphery.

00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:33.830
A group of immortals who have been
on Earth for 35,000 years.

00:23:33.910 --> 00:23:36.700
They've been there amongst the MCU.
We haven't met them before.

00:23:36.790 --> 00:23:40.040
Do you guys have any interest
in meeting some of the Eternals?

00:23:40.120 --> 00:23:41.210
- CROWD: Yes!
- All right.

00:23:41.290 --> 00:23:44.590
I know the cast all met for the same
time, save Gemma, at Comic-Con in July.

00:23:44.670 --> 00:23:47.380
Ladies and gentlemen, as Ikaris,
Richard Madden.

00:23:48.550 --> 00:23:49.550
Kumail Nanjiani.

00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:52.140
Lauren Ridloff.

00:23:54.060 --> 00:23:59.940
What excites me the most, selfishly,
is the world-building, and the designs.

00:24:01.110 --> 00:24:05.240
The foundation, Jack Kirby's comics,
and also the Neil Gaiman run as well,

00:24:05.320 --> 00:24:06.900
are great inspirations.

00:24:07.910 --> 00:24:10.530
We also done a lot of research
with historians,

00:24:10.620 --> 00:24:13.740
language experts,
anthropologists, scientists.

00:24:15.580 --> 00:24:18.020
And it was very important
for Eternals to do that

00:24:17.970 --> 00:24:21.430
you want to really feel like
they were actually there, visually.

00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:26.430
So, as a production designer,

00:24:26.550 --> 00:24:30.230
you're actually responsible for every
single thing that you see on camera,

00:24:30.390 --> 00:24:33.850
whether someone's eatin' a sandwich,
to whether someone's driving a car

00:24:33.940 --> 00:24:36.940
or a spaceship, or every single location.

00:24:37.020 --> 00:24:39.440
When you have to build over 130 sets,

00:24:39.530 --> 00:24:42.650
it's a huge endeavor.
And the scope is enormous.

00:24:42.740 --> 00:24:46.450
We're traveling 'round the world,
through space, through time.

00:24:47.030 --> 00:24:48.370
It's been extraordinary,

00:24:48.450 --> 00:24:51.700
the breadth and width of everything
that we've had to achieve.

00:24:52.120 --> 00:24:56.460
My starting point on this film
was obviously the Kirby comics.

00:24:56.540 --> 00:24:59.880
I really looked at those,
and one of the great things is

00:24:59.960 --> 00:25:03.680
how much it linked in with the script
in certain ways.

00:25:04.800 --> 00:25:09.470
One of the sets in particular really
inspired me to delve further into it.

00:25:09.560 --> 00:25:13.730
And this set was
the Aztec temple of Teotihuacán.

00:25:13.810 --> 00:25:17.360
It was believed to have
been set up by gods or aliens.

00:25:17.690 --> 00:25:19.690
It's in human folklore everywhere.

00:25:19.770 --> 00:25:21.690
So, I really started to investigate this,

00:25:21.780 --> 00:25:26.070
and then it worked out that
there's over 100,000 people lived there.

00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:29.530
It was nowhere near a river.
It was nowhere near anything.

00:25:29.620 --> 00:25:31.200
And the myth and the legend is

00:25:31.290 --> 00:25:34.750
that some gods had come
and built this for the people.

00:25:34.870 --> 00:25:37.920
And so, that started
a real train of thought

00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:40.380
that I took through
to the rest of the production.

00:25:40.460 --> 00:25:44.050
Then I started to really get into
what influence that they think

00:25:44.130 --> 00:25:46.470
the alien peoples have come to this planet

00:25:46.550 --> 00:25:50.390
and had an influence
on our technology, on everything.

00:25:50.470 --> 00:25:53.220
And what was amazing
is then going back to the comics,

00:25:53.310 --> 00:25:56.520
and within that, there were illustrations
of all the temples

00:25:56.600 --> 00:26:00.110
and his own take on it
with the Eternals and the Celestials

00:26:00.190 --> 00:26:02.980
drawn within the decoration
on the temples.

00:26:03.070 --> 00:26:06.070
So we took that forward
and lifted that decoration

00:26:06.150 --> 00:26:09.660
and then had that emblazoned on our build.

00:26:09.740 --> 00:26:14.500
When they're in the interior, the top of
the temple, it's very much that Kirby nod.

00:26:14.580 --> 00:26:16.710
Our production design led by Eve Stewart,

00:26:16.790 --> 00:26:18.790
really did their homework
creating a language

00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:21.790
that then we could employ on the costumes
and on walls of the starship

00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:24.010
and have an aesthetic that felt unified.

00:26:24.090 --> 00:26:27.130
We wanted it to feel ancient
and technologically advanced all at once,

00:26:27.220 --> 00:26:29.180
that was a challenge
from a design standpoint.

00:26:29.260 --> 00:26:32.560
How do you make these aliens feel
like they've been here for 7,000 years

00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:34.640
and also feel like
the inspiration for things

00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:36.140
humans built throughout history?

00:26:36.230 --> 00:26:39.310
Well, this was a real challenge
'cause when I started,

00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:43.070
I read that the Eternals had been created
by the Celestials.

00:26:43.150 --> 00:26:46.740
It was a million years ago, so it
can't be a spaceship like all the ones

00:26:46.820 --> 00:26:49.450
you love in the Ridley Scott films.

00:26:49.530 --> 00:26:53.370
And then this spaceship has been
lying dormant, theoretically, on Earth

00:26:53.450 --> 00:26:55.500
for the last 7,000 years.

00:26:55.580 --> 00:26:59.500
I felt it couldn't have any proper
reference to human technology.

00:26:59.580 --> 00:27:04.050
Also, on top of that, I just felt that it
was such a spiritual place

00:27:04.130 --> 00:27:06.630
for these people
and it'd been set up, theoretically,

00:27:06.710 --> 00:27:09.130
by the Celestials, which are gods.

00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:12.430
So, I started to look at sacred geometry,

00:27:12.510 --> 00:27:15.970
the way shapes worked throughout
all the religions across the world.

00:27:16.610 --> 00:27:18.820
So, I was trying to put those together.

00:27:18.910 --> 00:27:23.540
So the exterior of the ship became
triangular quite quickly

00:27:23.620 --> 00:27:25.450
just because of aerodynamics.

00:27:25.540 --> 00:27:30.460
But also, Chloé and I discussed a lot
how triangles and circles fit together,

00:27:30.540 --> 00:27:35.090
both in Christianity and Islamism
and also in Asian culture.

00:27:35.170 --> 00:27:39.050
So, it became a very global thing
that we went for.

00:27:39.130 --> 00:27:41.350
So, we started with loads of triangles.

00:27:41.850 --> 00:27:43.600
And then I went to see some scientists,

00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:45.140
and they said this was very good

00:27:45.220 --> 00:27:49.770
because triangular planes
can also create a vertical lift

00:27:49.850 --> 00:27:51.980
if you've got enough energy
around all the points.

00:27:52.150 --> 00:27:53.730
So, this is where we started.

00:27:53.860 --> 00:27:58.450
I was really, really surprised
when I walked into our ship.

00:27:58.530 --> 00:28:02.660
Because how many ships have you seen?
They all look the same. Futuristic.

00:28:02.740 --> 00:28:07.620
This one is completely
out of the ordinary, unimaginable,

00:28:07.700 --> 00:28:11.500
every object, every little detail in it.

00:28:11.580 --> 00:28:14.380
It's really new and exciting.

00:28:14.460 --> 00:28:18.010
I really love the spaceship
because it's so unusual,

00:28:18.090 --> 00:28:22.010
and I think it is to do with the circular
nature of it with the domed ceilings,

00:28:22.090 --> 00:28:25.180
and that it's almost cathedral-like
or temple-like.

00:28:25.260 --> 00:28:28.350
And the textures of it,
we worked really hard getting it

00:28:28.430 --> 00:28:30.810
so that it looked like
the inside of a meteor.

00:28:30.890 --> 00:28:32.730
Like, it was really, truly ancient.

00:28:32.810 --> 00:28:36.400
We looked at
ancient Babylonian cuneiforms.

00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:38.030
We actually made our own.

00:28:38.110 --> 00:28:43.160
These say things like, star, moon,
travel, man, Earth, and god.

00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:46.080
These correspond exactly to the costumes.

00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:51.160
When they stand against this wall, the
power from Arishem creates the costumes.

00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:59.260
All the shapes in the costumes
are based in the world of Jack Kirby.

00:29:00.340 --> 00:29:04.550
One thing that Chloé discussed a lot
was the circles with the lines

00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:06.560
that run through all his imagery.

00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:09.020
Because they had been
on Earth for 7,000 years,

00:29:09.100 --> 00:29:15.560
could the symbols, the shapes on their
bodies have influenced some designs

00:29:15.650 --> 00:29:18.230
in religion and in cultures
all around the world?

00:29:19.320 --> 00:29:20.990
So that all went into the design.

00:29:21.070 --> 00:29:23.820
I can honestly say that these costumes

00:29:23.910 --> 00:29:27.450
are the most difficult superhero costumes
I've ever made.

00:29:31.080 --> 00:29:35.790
This room is our exhibition
of the superhero costumes

00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:38.550
and some of the other epochs
within the film.

00:29:39.170 --> 00:29:43.760
When I first read the script, I was like,
"Wow! This has got everythin'."

00:29:43.840 --> 00:29:46.500
It's got all different periods.
It's got future, past, everything.

00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:50.890
So, from a costume design perspective,
there's a lot there to play with.

00:29:51.690 --> 00:29:54.980
And on top of that, you know
you're gonna design 10 new superheroes.

00:29:56.020 --> 00:29:57.690
One of the things that was asked

00:29:57.780 --> 00:30:02.450
was that they didn't look like
just superhero armor-clad uniforms,

00:30:02.530 --> 00:30:04.280
that they look like a second skin.

00:30:04.870 --> 00:30:07.370
And we had to incorporate the cosmos.

00:30:07.740 --> 00:30:11.370
So we started off looking at
minerals and nature,

00:30:11.460 --> 00:30:13.750
and started experimenting with fabrics.

00:30:14.290 --> 00:30:16.960
I remember Kevin
visited our production.

00:30:17.040 --> 00:30:19.090
He was like, "This is like
a science experiment."

00:30:19.170 --> 00:30:21.800
Because when you see the film,
you see it isn't just blue.

00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:25.180
We used different type of black,
different type of blue,

00:30:25.260 --> 00:30:28.760
and oil paint, and then
put them together on a sheet.

00:30:28.850 --> 00:30:30.810
And then you have to wait for a few days

00:30:30.890 --> 00:30:32.980
to naturally see what kind of texture
you get.

00:30:33.060 --> 00:30:34.850
Each of these costumes are unique.

00:30:34.940 --> 00:30:38.190
It takes many, many experiments,
because on a big screen,

00:30:38.270 --> 00:30:39.780
you can really see all the textures.

00:30:39.860 --> 00:30:43.240
There's so many layers on each costume

00:30:43.320 --> 00:30:45.070
and they're all done by hand.

00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:46.990
It's a big undertaking,

00:30:47.070 --> 00:30:50.240
and the smallest amount of pieces
on a character was five or six.

00:30:50.330 --> 00:30:53.710
Going up to, like, Sprite,
who had 18 pieces on her.

00:30:55.040 --> 00:30:58.540
And each one of those pieces
has to be drawn up in the computer,

00:30:58.630 --> 00:31:02.300
molded, cast, cleaned up,
edited, paint work.

00:31:02.380 --> 00:31:04.590
All of our pieces are
incredibly labor intensive.

00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:08.180
So, at times, I had seven or eight people
in the work room

00:31:08.260 --> 00:31:09.890
just painting these pieces.

00:31:10.430 --> 00:31:15.100
And for each of these 10 characters,
we had at least six repeats of costumes.

00:31:15.600 --> 00:31:20.110
So, it's really difficult to imagine just
how much work there was in there.

00:31:21.150 --> 00:31:25.360
Ajak loves nature
and she is also the leader,

00:31:25.740 --> 00:31:27.530
and has the link to the Celestials.

00:31:27.820 --> 00:31:29.870
So she has this amazing headdress,

00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.660
and there's a lot of flowing lines
upwards with her.

00:31:33.750 --> 00:31:35.910
Very gold and blue.

00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.960
And we've got this amazing cape,
which is all hand-painted.

00:31:39.040 --> 00:31:41.630
And I was lucky to work with Sammy,

00:31:41.710 --> 00:31:44.720
who put a lot of symbolic stuff
into my costume.

00:31:44.800 --> 00:31:49.010
There's a mixture of empowerment
and also pride

00:31:49.090 --> 00:31:52.930
of being able to wear this costume
that means something important.

00:31:53.470 --> 00:31:56.770
Sersi loves humanity,
she's a very giving person.

00:31:56.850 --> 00:32:00.520
The color that we gave her
was basically green and silver.

00:32:00.610 --> 00:32:05.650
So, she has flowing areas
to make it feminine and soft.

00:32:05.740 --> 00:32:09.530
It's not super-structured.
It's a bit more ethereal, really.

00:32:09.620 --> 00:32:13.580
And then we've got Ikaris,
who is very much a fighter.

00:32:13.660 --> 00:32:18.290
We wanted to get away from the idea that
you've just got a superhero jumpsuit.

00:32:18.370 --> 00:32:21.210
And so for him, it's done
in a segmented armor way.

00:32:22.460 --> 00:32:27.220
Sprite, she's a thinker.
And it's slightly alabastery,

00:32:27.300 --> 00:32:29.180
and a bit of jade going on with hers.

00:32:29.260 --> 00:32:32.600
What we decided to do with her was have
a bit of fun with her modern look

00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:34.720
and kinda show her as someone

00:32:34.810 --> 00:32:37.310
who actually desperately
wants to be more grown up.

00:32:37.390 --> 00:32:40.020
So she wears quite quirky
but serious clothes.

00:32:40.100 --> 00:32:43.150
Like she was trying to find an identity.

00:32:43.770 --> 00:32:46.990
And then, we have Druig.
He's very monastic.

00:32:47.070 --> 00:32:49.030
He goes through a very big turning point.

00:32:49.110 --> 00:32:51.820
As we go through time with him,
he gets darker and darker.

00:32:51.910 --> 00:32:53.370
so his costume is very dark.

00:32:53.450 --> 00:32:56.200
It's quite long.
It's very strong in the center.

00:32:57.120 --> 00:32:59.040
Thena is a warrior,
but equally, there's also

00:32:59.080 --> 00:33:00.460
a fragility about her.

00:33:00.870 --> 00:33:04.210
She starts off as this
amazing gold goddess,

00:33:04.340 --> 00:33:05.840
and then slowly through time,

00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:10.220
she becomes this fragile,
lacey, very soft,

00:33:10.300 --> 00:33:11.760
damaged butterfly in a way.

00:33:12.260 --> 00:33:15.890
Gilgamesh is the strongest warrior,
so he's very heavily armored,

00:33:15.970 --> 00:33:17.640
and this is quite hard, for him.

00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:21.980
And he goes on the journey with Thena,
so he gets stuck in time with her.

00:33:22.060 --> 00:33:24.480
So, they don't change
their clothes to the modern world.

00:33:24.570 --> 00:33:26.150
So, we had them living in a place

00:33:26.230 --> 00:33:29.950
where they sort of stopped in about 1900.

00:33:30.030 --> 00:33:32.950
And so, he has very old-looking clothes.

00:33:33.780 --> 00:33:35.490
What I love about my costume is

00:33:35.580 --> 00:33:38.950
that there is no other costume in
the MCU that looks like this one.

00:33:39.040 --> 00:33:41.710
It moves really well. It fits really well.

00:33:41.790 --> 00:33:45.210
And it's purple, which has been
my favorite color my whole life.

00:33:45.630 --> 00:33:49.130
And I'm sure everybody tells you that
they got teary-eyed when they put it on.

00:33:49.210 --> 00:33:50.880
And I certainly did.

00:33:53.190 --> 00:33:56.990
My favorite moment on this film
has been Brian.

00:33:58.070 --> 00:34:01.540
His final fitting was just
absolutely my favorite moment.

00:34:01.620 --> 00:34:03.120
So I go in for my final fitting.

00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:05.620
You see the drawings...
It still doesn't really hit you

00:34:05.710 --> 00:34:07.880
'cause every time
they showed me the drawings,

00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:10.540
I was like, "Is that me? That's not me.
Is that really me?"

00:34:10.630 --> 00:34:13.340
We put the costume on him
and he wouldn't look in the mirror.

00:34:13.420 --> 00:34:15.090
I just battled with a lot of things

00:34:15.170 --> 00:34:17.890
when it came to how I thought
the MCU should look,

00:34:17.970 --> 00:34:20.680
and I was really nervous
about how I'd be portrayed.

00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:22.600
He was starting to breathe really heavily.

00:34:22.680 --> 00:34:25.100
Every time a zipper went up,
or a button went on,

00:34:25.230 --> 00:34:27.140
or like I've put my boots on,

00:34:27.230 --> 00:34:28.520
I was just like, "Okay!"

00:34:28.600 --> 00:34:30.810
They're like,
"Brian, you have to turn and look."

00:34:30.900 --> 00:34:32.320
I'm, "I'm really not ready."

00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:34.440
I was worried for him,
he said, "No, I'm fine."

00:34:34.530 --> 00:34:36.400
So when they finally zipped up the back,

00:34:36.490 --> 00:34:38.740
they're, "Okay, you have to
look at yourself."

00:34:38.820 --> 00:34:39.820
So I turned around.

00:34:39.910 --> 00:34:43.540
And then when he did turn around,
he just screamed.

00:34:43.620 --> 00:34:46.960
"Oh, my God! This is incredible."

00:34:48.170 --> 00:34:50.330
I just screamed, "Everybody come in here.

00:34:50.420 --> 00:34:53.500
"Everybody who had anything to do
with this suit, come in here."

00:34:53.590 --> 00:34:56.380
And so, they all came in.
And I just... And I'm...

00:34:56.510 --> 00:34:58.880
I'm crying, I am weeping.

00:34:58.970 --> 00:35:01.930
"You don't understand
how you just made this little Black boy

00:35:02.010 --> 00:35:04.810
"from North Carolina who never
thought in a million years

00:35:04.890 --> 00:35:09.100
"that he could stand here and believe
that he was a superhero."

00:35:09.190 --> 00:35:11.400
I have to say this from
the bottom of my heart,

00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:14.820
every single person that had
anything to do with making this movie,

00:35:14.900 --> 00:35:17.030
they're the real heroes, like honestly.

00:35:17.110 --> 00:35:19.200
We couldn't be the heroes
we are without them,

00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.070
and I just want people to know that
when they watch these movies

00:35:22.160 --> 00:35:25.620
that there are so many people
that give their time and their effort

00:35:25.700 --> 00:35:28.040
to make me feel like a superhero.

00:35:29.540 --> 00:35:32.080
My favorite part was seeing
everyone in costume

00:35:32.170 --> 00:35:33.920
and all of us just standing in a line.

00:35:35.460 --> 00:35:38.050
It just was so exciting to see
everybody in their costumes.

00:35:38.130 --> 00:35:40.630
We were all screaming
and getting teary-eyed all day.

00:35:40.720 --> 00:35:42.640
I was like,
"Oh, my God! Look!"

00:35:42.720 --> 00:35:46.430
When we did all come together,
we were quite moved.

00:35:46.520 --> 00:35:47.520
It was really amazing.

00:35:47.600 --> 00:35:49.480
It was very windy, it was very dramatic.

00:35:49.560 --> 00:35:51.350
Everyone's capes were flying.

00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:55.020
There are times in a production
where you get to feel almost like a fan.

00:35:55.110 --> 00:35:56.570
And that's really special.

00:35:56.650 --> 00:35:58.860
Thank you. Thank you, Eternals!

00:36:13.710 --> 00:36:16.000
When I signed up
for this movie, I thought,

00:36:16.090 --> 00:36:18.420
"I'll be in a big green box
in the studio somewhere,

00:36:18.510 --> 00:36:19.800
"and that's just what this is."

00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.220
I was wrong. I think I've been in
the studio one day

00:36:22.300 --> 00:36:23.760
out of all my days of being here.

00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:28.770
Chloé really wanted to use as much
practical settings, sets, as we could,

00:36:28.850 --> 00:36:30.930
so we've been on location a lot.

00:36:31.020 --> 00:36:34.150
The locations and the geography
is a huge part of the film.

00:36:34.230 --> 00:36:38.980
It's entwined with it, because it's really
the story of the growth of civilization,

00:36:39.070 --> 00:36:42.110
combined with nature
and the way humanity and nature

00:36:42.200 --> 00:36:44.200
have evolved alongside each other.

00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:46.200
So, we shot a lot around London,

00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:48.990
and London was
a Swiss Army knife location for us.

00:36:49.080 --> 00:36:51.660
It allowed us to be in North Dakota,
then in Alaska.

00:36:51.750 --> 00:36:53.710
It allowed us to be
in the Amazon, surprisingly.

00:36:53.790 --> 00:36:55.920
It allowed us to be in
different periods of history.

00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:58.920
It was the night shoots where
they'd shut down Camden.

00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.630
I kind of went, "Wow, this is...
They can do this?

00:37:01.720 --> 00:37:05.300
"They can shut down one of the busiest
parts of London for us to film here?"

00:37:05.390 --> 00:37:07.430
That's a lot of ambition.

00:37:07.510 --> 00:37:10.640
But we also shot a good deal of the film
in Fuerteventura and Lanzarote,

00:37:10.720 --> 00:37:12.140
in the Canary Islands,

00:37:12.230 --> 00:37:14.940
which is a Spanish-owned island chain
off the coast of Africa.

00:37:15.020 --> 00:37:17.150
That gave us a lot of looks
that we hadn't had

00:37:17.230 --> 00:37:18.400
in any of our other movies.

00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:20.440
And allowed us to
double again, historically,

00:37:20.530 --> 00:37:23.200
for places that no longer exist
or are hard to get to.

00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:25.110
Yeah, we went to the Canary Islands,

00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:28.330
and then we were shooting
Babylon and Mesopotamia,

00:37:28.410 --> 00:37:31.330
and we felt like
we are in Mesopotamia.

00:37:31.410 --> 00:37:33.790
It looked so real and that is so great.

00:37:33.870 --> 00:37:38.040
It was great to be able to actually shoot
on locations and forests and woods

00:37:38.130 --> 00:37:42.050
on these black sand beaches,
on volcanic islands.

00:37:42.130 --> 00:37:44.470
When you are actually
on a location,

00:37:44.550 --> 00:37:47.010
it helps you get into
the reality of things,

00:37:47.090 --> 00:37:48.600
as bizarre as they are.

00:37:48.680 --> 00:37:50.810
You've never seen places like these.

00:37:50.890 --> 00:37:55.640
This is absolutely magical. Magical.

00:37:55.730 --> 00:37:57.810
It's spectacular, this landscape.

00:37:57.940 --> 00:38:01.150
I've never been around the world
like this on a movie.

00:38:01.230 --> 00:38:03.400
This movie is by no means easy.

00:38:03.490 --> 00:38:06.490
I don't know if you've been to
Fuerteventura, but there is nothing there.

00:38:06.570 --> 00:38:09.240
No diss, but, like, it is an island.

00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:12.240
And then we show up at this location,
and it's like rocks,

00:38:12.330 --> 00:38:13.950
there used to be volcanoes here.

00:38:14.040 --> 00:38:16.370
And then you're on a cliff.
Did I mention that?

00:38:16.460 --> 00:38:19.590
There were cliffs on this place,
and you're doing major fight scenes.

00:38:19.670 --> 00:38:22.380
And you're climbing over things
and you're doing wire work.

00:38:22.460 --> 00:38:23.960
And then there's the beach.

00:38:24.050 --> 00:38:27.180
The wind of Fuerteventura is no joke,
you're like in dust.

00:38:27.260 --> 00:38:30.140
And black sand does not
come off your body that easily.

00:38:31.350 --> 00:38:34.850
It was unbelievable 'cause when I tell you
that we had to band together,

00:38:34.930 --> 00:38:38.520
we had to band together, and I think
we got incredibly close at Fuerteventura.

00:38:38.600 --> 00:38:41.730
It was fun to all be in the same hotel
'cause we were all having dinner

00:38:41.820 --> 00:38:43.820
and seeing each other and hanging out.

00:38:43.900 --> 00:38:47.200
I think being on location
really helps you feel it more

00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:48.570
and just be more in the moment.

00:38:48.750 --> 00:38:50.460
-Cut. All right.
- Dave?

00:38:50.550 --> 00:38:52.680
-Beautiful. That's it. Got it.
-Yeah. We got it.

00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:56.390
For us, going to shoot on location
allowed us to be able to capture

00:38:56.470 --> 00:38:58.260
the light and capture the place.

00:38:59.520 --> 00:39:03.440
You want the audience to not only
to see the character,

00:39:03.520 --> 00:39:07.020
you wanna see the character in
relationship to the world behind them.

00:39:07.110 --> 00:39:10.110
It's very difficult to make that
feel real on a stage.

00:39:10.190 --> 00:39:13.450
So, going to a location was
a very natural progression.

00:39:14.570 --> 00:39:18.330
And it's exciting for our
visual effect supervisor, Steph Ceretti.

00:39:18.410 --> 00:39:19.950
He always wanted to capture

00:39:20.040 --> 00:39:23.370
as many real
and natural elements as possible.

00:39:23.460 --> 00:39:27.380
Actually, for us, it's more interesting
to have to deal with real material

00:39:27.460 --> 00:39:31.510
that comes with all the things
you can't control, really.

00:39:32.670 --> 00:39:35.680
And that makes the film
a bit more real in that sense.

00:39:36.140 --> 00:39:38.260
We really wanted to push the idea

00:39:38.350 --> 00:39:41.930
that everything has to be shot,
as much as possible, in a real place.

00:39:42.020 --> 00:39:45.850
And Chloé really wanted that.
For example, the Amazon Forest scene...

00:39:47.150 --> 00:39:48.190
Ikaris!

00:39:48.270 --> 00:39:50.360
We were talking
about shooting it in a studio

00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:53.150
and talking with Chloé,
and the two of us were like,

00:39:53.240 --> 00:39:56.660
"No, I mean, we can't do that.
There's never going to be enough room.

00:39:56.740 --> 00:39:58.740
"We gotta shoot that on location."

00:39:59.200 --> 00:40:03.160
Even though it was really difficult,
in England, getting into the winter,

00:40:03.250 --> 00:40:05.290
lots of rain,
as you can imagine.

00:40:05.370 --> 00:40:09.420
But it made total sense to actually
go on location and feel the environment.

00:40:09.500 --> 00:40:13.090
And have the actors in the environment
and feeling the elements.

00:40:13.170 --> 00:40:15.340
And also having
that freedom with the camera

00:40:15.420 --> 00:40:18.090
to shoot anywhere and not be constrained.

00:40:18.180 --> 00:40:20.260
So, it was much more organic in that way,

00:40:20.350 --> 00:40:22.680
shooting it this way
and much more visceral

00:40:22.770 --> 00:40:26.060
which, you know, Chloé really wanted
to capture as much as possible.

00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:29.900
And it's difficult,
a big challenge for him.

00:40:29.980 --> 00:40:34.610
How he can make his visual effects element
blend into the real world

00:40:34.690 --> 00:40:36.650
because when you hit that sweet spot,

00:40:36.740 --> 00:40:40.740
then you can achieve the kind of realism
that Eternals really needs.

00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:43.910
The action scene on the beach...

00:40:45.500 --> 00:40:47.830
Beautiful environment, amazing location.

00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:51.130
We wanted to shoot there
so we could capture as much as possible

00:40:51.210 --> 00:40:53.550
from the real light,
the environment, the wind.

00:40:54.380 --> 00:40:57.340
There was challenges
in bringing stunt rigs

00:40:57.420 --> 00:41:00.680
and special effects rigs on the beach
because it was so remote.

00:41:02.260 --> 00:41:04.930
And there was a lot of the action
we could not actually shoot,

00:41:05.470 --> 00:41:08.890
so we ended up building the environment
as a CG environment

00:41:08.980 --> 00:41:11.980
so that we could have it
and also design some shots

00:41:12.060 --> 00:41:14.150
that we couldn't get on location,

00:41:14.820 --> 00:41:20.070
with full CG characters fighting, flying,
hitting each other at full speed.

00:41:21.070 --> 00:41:25.040
But the thing that we tried to keep
is the cinematography aspect of it.

00:41:25.120 --> 00:41:29.330
Trying to make our CG shots
to match the style of shooting

00:41:29.420 --> 00:41:32.590
that Chloé wanted to retain,
to keep it natural.

00:41:33.170 --> 00:41:35.210
When you do a sequence on a set,

00:41:35.300 --> 00:41:37.920
you usually have
full control of the light.

00:41:38.010 --> 00:41:40.180
The light doesn't change,
the sky doesn't change,

00:41:40.260 --> 00:41:42.930
because it's the same sky we use
for all the shots.

00:41:43.010 --> 00:41:44.510
Here it's not the way it is.

00:41:44.600 --> 00:41:49.390
Every shot had a different sky,
a different wind, a different cloud,

00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.520
so it's something
that we tried to fight a little bit,

00:41:52.610 --> 00:41:55.440
but then Chloé told us,
"Don't fight it, don't fight it.

00:41:55.520 --> 00:41:57.030
"Make it look natural.

00:41:57.110 --> 00:41:59.610
"We went there to shoot it
and things change.

00:41:59.700 --> 00:42:01.450
"Do the same in your CG shots.

00:42:01.530 --> 00:42:03.990
"Just make it as it would be natural.

00:42:04.070 --> 00:42:07.580
"Embrace the natural light
and the natural elements."

00:42:07.660 --> 00:42:10.250
So that was very, very interesting for us.

00:42:10.330 --> 00:42:12.710
It was a really cool
symbiotic relationship.

00:42:14.340 --> 00:42:17.630
To some degree, it was a learning curve
for her to work with

00:42:17.710 --> 00:42:19.800
because she had never been
on a movie this size,

00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.680
she'd never had the same resources
that we have on our films.

00:42:23.510 --> 00:42:26.220
But we'd never tried to tell a story
the way that she does.

00:42:26.310 --> 00:42:29.180
We'd never moved the camera
in the way that she wants to.

00:42:30.060 --> 00:42:31.560
I come from an Indie world.

00:42:31.640 --> 00:42:35.150
To be able to let your imagination
just be set free

00:42:35.230 --> 00:42:38.650
and then to have people
who are so experienced and open-minded

00:42:38.730 --> 00:42:42.110
to be able to take your ideas
and elevate it

00:42:42.200 --> 00:42:47.450
and just go crazy with it
is an incredible process.

00:42:48.950 --> 00:42:51.040
-He's holding the white bag.
-Yeah, that is good.

00:42:51.120 --> 00:42:54.170
Chloé likes to shoot at
what she would call "magic hour,"

00:42:54.250 --> 00:42:56.750
when the sun is just about to
dip below the horizon.

00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:59.300
You've all these heroes
in their amazing costumes,

00:42:59.380 --> 00:43:02.880
and the ocean is this giant wave,
and the wind is blowing,

00:43:03.300 --> 00:43:05.260
and it's the perfect environment

00:43:05.340 --> 00:43:09.560
that you would hope that you could
recreate digitally but very rarely could.

00:43:10.720 --> 00:43:13.600
And the actors and actresses
would say that moment was special

00:43:13.690 --> 00:43:15.230
'cause it was the end of the movie.

00:43:15.310 --> 00:43:17.610
So, even though you're shooting
out of sequence,

00:43:17.690 --> 00:43:20.280
you feel it from an energy
and a dramatic standpoint.

00:43:21.030 --> 00:43:23.320
But that was a moment
that really felt special.

00:43:42.630 --> 00:43:46.140
We knew this film has to
heavily rely on themes.

00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:49.140
You have 11 characters, right?

00:43:49.220 --> 00:43:51.350
And you have 7,000 years human history.

00:43:51.430 --> 00:43:54.560
And you have space, you have Earth,
all these elements.

00:43:54.640 --> 00:43:57.190
It's important to repeat themes.

00:43:57.940 --> 00:44:01.110
And that's something Ramin does
so beautifully in Game of Thrones.

00:44:02.610 --> 00:44:04.990
Ramin created
these beautiful, beautiful themes.

00:44:05.070 --> 00:44:07.870
And when the theme starts,
he evoke a emotion.

00:44:07.950 --> 00:44:09.910
Instead of giving themes
to each characters,

00:44:09.990 --> 00:44:11.410
we thought about it, thematically,

00:44:11.490 --> 00:44:14.120
"What do those characters go through
throughout history?

00:44:15.120 --> 00:44:18.670
"Love, mission, memories,
just all these aspects.

00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:22.500
"And let's create themes
for their emotional state."

00:44:22.590 --> 00:44:28.470
That way, yeah, actually, the themes
help us connect this massive story.

00:44:28.550 --> 00:44:31.060
So every time that memory theme shows up,

00:44:31.140 --> 00:44:33.810
it doesn't matter
whether you're in present-day Amazon,

00:44:33.890 --> 00:44:35.180
or you're in Ancient Babylon,

00:44:35.270 --> 00:44:38.730
you understand how far
these characters has journeyed,

00:44:38.810 --> 00:44:43.440
and yet they still are dealing with
the same struggles, which is humanity.

00:44:44.490 --> 00:44:46.280
- Eternals assemble.
-Thank you.

00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:47.740
-Eternals assemble.
-Okay.

00:44:48.160 --> 00:44:50.370
There is a family atmosphere,

00:44:50.620 --> 00:44:56.370
but there's something very profound about
the way she approaches the characters,

00:44:56.460 --> 00:44:58.870
and how she works with the actors.

00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:01.500
And she really draws you into a character.

00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:03.210
- So good.

00:45:03.630 --> 00:45:05.840
I think the character moments
are hugely important,

00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:09.130
and those are the real moments that
people remember from the MCU movies.

00:45:09.220 --> 00:45:12.350
The little moment, the Avengers
sitting around eating shawarma.

00:45:12.430 --> 00:45:14.770
That's the stuff that
really people connect with.

00:45:14.850 --> 00:45:16.850
And Chloé Zhao, our director,

00:45:16.930 --> 00:45:19.400
has been very good about
finding those little moments.

00:45:19.770 --> 00:45:24.190
Obviously, the fighting, the aliens,
all that stuff, very exciting.

00:45:24.270 --> 00:45:29.410
But we've been a family for 7,000 years.
There's a lot of baggage there,

00:45:29.490 --> 00:45:32.620
and exploring that has been the most
satisfying part of this movie.

00:45:32.700 --> 00:45:35.790
Chloé is so perceptive in
every single little moment of the film,

00:45:35.870 --> 00:45:38.160
and she's always thinking of
what she can do better,

00:45:38.250 --> 00:45:40.620
and she just wants to
make it the best that it can be.

00:45:40.710 --> 00:45:42.790
She's involved
in every single aspect of the film,

00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:44.590
she's doing 100 things at once.

00:45:44.670 --> 00:45:47.130
I don't know how she does it,
but it's amazing.

00:45:47.210 --> 00:45:49.430
She's a kamikaze agent, man.

00:45:49.510 --> 00:45:51.760
There's nothing greater
than watching your director

00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:53.600
see you do something and get excited,

00:45:53.680 --> 00:45:55.930
when she jumps from behind the camera
and runs up.

00:45:56.010 --> 00:45:58.810
She makes you wanna try stuff.
She makes you believe

00:45:58.890 --> 00:46:01.150
the vision includes you
and how you craft it

00:46:01.230 --> 00:46:03.650
and how you mold it,
so there's a lot of improv,

00:46:03.730 --> 00:46:06.860
there's a lot of discoveries
that we're finding amongst each other.

00:46:06.940 --> 00:46:08.570
I knew she'd get the character stuff.

00:46:08.650 --> 00:46:10.490
I knew she'd get the relationship stuff,

00:46:10.570 --> 00:46:12.070
but her stuff with the action...

00:46:12.160 --> 00:46:13.990
There'll be an action scene we shoot,

00:46:14.070 --> 00:46:15.780
she's like, "You wanna see it?"
I'll look,

00:46:15.870 --> 00:46:20.540
and it just looks like
no other action scene I've seen,

00:46:21.420 --> 00:46:23.330
in an MCU movie or otherwise.

00:46:24.130 --> 00:46:28.590
Chloé uses our personalities
and our diversity

00:46:29.510 --> 00:46:32.970
in a seamless way in the film
that it's unifying,

00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:37.890
and it makes you feel part
of something really special.

00:46:39.770 --> 00:46:42.190
I never imagined that I would
ever be part of the MCU,

00:46:42.270 --> 00:46:44.190
especially, as like a superhero.

00:46:45.650 --> 00:46:48.320
I had some friends who got to be
in 'em in different parts

00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:51.070
and I was like, "Oh, man,
I just wanna be a guy who

00:46:51.200 --> 00:46:53.320
"fixes Captain America's computer
or something."

00:46:53.410 --> 00:46:58.290
And now to actually be in this,
it's pretty great.

00:46:59.120 --> 00:47:02.000
To be able to be a part
of a film by Marvel

00:47:02.080 --> 00:47:05.210
that has the most diversity
that we've ever seen

00:47:05.290 --> 00:47:08.880
in any superhero movie of all time.

00:47:09.380 --> 00:47:13.720
I think it's exciting. I think it really
shows the scope of the film,

00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:14.840
and it's global.

00:47:14.930 --> 00:47:16.970
You see this great mix of people

00:47:17.050 --> 00:47:20.140
from lots of different backgrounds
and cultures.

00:47:20.220 --> 00:47:22.770
I think it really enriches
the story that we're telling

00:47:22.850 --> 00:47:25.020
because it really is an epic global story.

00:47:25.940 --> 00:47:28.690
And really, it's the first time
we've ever been here on Earth,

00:47:28.770 --> 00:47:32.570
where we've had a team of superheroes
that really are as diverse as Earth is.

00:47:32.650 --> 00:47:34.820
You know, as our planet is,
as humanity is.

00:47:36.200 --> 00:47:38.910
This ensemble, truly, I'm getting chills
thinking about it.

00:47:40.080 --> 00:47:42.330
Everybody looks different,
sounds different.

00:47:42.410 --> 00:47:44.580
Everybody has a completely
different energy.

00:47:44.670 --> 00:47:46.920
I've literally never seen
an ensemble like this,

00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:49.460
and the fact that
we get to do it for Marvel

00:47:49.550 --> 00:47:52.590
as superheroes, what a special thing.

00:47:53.420 --> 00:47:55.970
It's interesting because I never
in a million years thought

00:47:56.050 --> 00:47:57.340
I'd be a part of the MCU.

00:47:57.430 --> 00:48:00.470
What I like about what Chloé did
is that she really took us as is.

00:48:01.310 --> 00:48:04.270
I know that
I'm not the standard Marvel aesthetic,

00:48:04.640 --> 00:48:07.230
but Chloé, she was like,
"No, that is the point.

00:48:07.310 --> 00:48:09.150
"Like, you are that.

00:48:09.230 --> 00:48:11.980
"We need these people
to reflect everyday people,

00:48:12.070 --> 00:48:13.820
"'cause anyone can be a superhero."

00:48:13.900 --> 00:48:15.740
I love that because people going into this

00:48:15.820 --> 00:48:18.570
have their own concept of
what they think Marvel should be,

00:48:18.660 --> 00:48:20.700
and how Marvel should look like,
should sound.

00:48:20.780 --> 00:48:23.660
And, what we're doin' is,
we're gonna smash all that

00:48:23.750 --> 00:48:27.580
and just give people a sense to know
that they can see themselves up there.

00:48:40.390 --> 00:48:42.430
One thing that I really cherish

00:48:42.520 --> 00:48:48.310
is that I really feel that I've created
a special personal relationship

00:48:48.610 --> 00:48:52.530
with each one of the characters
and each one of the actors

00:48:52.860 --> 00:48:55.530
and some really beautiful friendships.

00:48:55.860 --> 00:48:58.780
I think everyone
found their roles pretty quickly.

00:48:59.240 --> 00:49:01.200
Not only in the film, but outside too.

00:49:01.290 --> 00:49:03.950
We have come to feel like
a family together.

00:49:04.040 --> 00:49:05.660
It felt like we'd known each other.

00:49:05.750 --> 00:49:08.920
We felt like... I don't know what it was,
but we were very quickly...

00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:10.500
We were friends.

00:49:10.590 --> 00:49:13.550
I love them all, honestly,
every single one of my cast members.

00:49:13.630 --> 00:49:16.010
I mean, we're absolutely family.

00:49:16.590 --> 00:49:19.390
It's unbelievable
how that kinship came along.

00:49:20.010 --> 00:49:23.600
I really feel like embracing them
and keeping them together.

00:49:23.680 --> 00:49:25.930
I know it's part of my character,

00:49:26.020 --> 00:49:29.270
but it's really rubbed off on me.
I feel responsible.

00:49:29.350 --> 00:49:32.150
So it was very easy to become a family.

00:49:32.230 --> 00:49:34.360
We became a family very, very fast.

00:49:36.610 --> 00:49:38.570
-Cut.
-Beautiful.

00:49:40.530 --> 00:49:44.030
For a movie that's about 10
immortal aliens from the planet Olympia,

00:49:44.120 --> 00:49:47.540
it's very much about humanity
and what it means to be human,

00:49:47.620 --> 00:49:49.450
and what it means to be of this Earth.

00:49:50.750 --> 00:49:52.170
And are we stewards of this Earth,

00:49:52.250 --> 00:49:55.210
or is this Earth just a stepping stone
to something greater?

00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:59.210
I think as a society, both as
a U.S. society and a global society,

00:49:59.300 --> 00:50:02.510
we're starting to tackle
what our relationship is to this Earth,

00:50:03.010 --> 00:50:05.010
what our relationship is to each other.

00:50:05.470 --> 00:50:07.510
I think that's
an important theme to explore

00:50:07.600 --> 00:50:10.100
because that's the things
we're facing on a day to day.

00:50:10.180 --> 00:50:12.190
You do not turn against your family.

00:50:12.270 --> 00:50:16.480
The film actually becomes very much
a celebration of planet Earth,

00:50:16.570 --> 00:50:18.320
and a celebration of humanity.

00:50:19.570 --> 00:50:22.450
We are learning about
what it means to be mortal,

00:50:22.530 --> 00:50:24.110
what it means to be a human being

00:50:24.200 --> 00:50:27.280
that has a very limited amount
of time in this universe.

00:50:27.370 --> 00:50:30.200
And I think that's a beautiful way
to celebrate humanity.

00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:33.470
It is important to stress that
we are all very powerful,

00:50:33.650 --> 00:50:39.410
but we are the most powerful when we
come together towards helping this planet.

00:50:42.030 --> 00:50:45.290
It's a beautiful message. When we all
come together, we're all stronger,

00:50:45.370 --> 00:50:48.000
and that's when we can
actually make an impact.

00:50:49.830 --> 00:50:53.500
This film is going to have
a big effect on the future of the MCU

00:50:53.590 --> 00:50:58.090
to a point where it makes me
geek out so much as a fan,

00:50:58.630 --> 00:51:02.720
that I was able to make a film that could
ripple through the MCU like this.

00:51:04.600 --> 00:51:06.850
I feel like, for me,
throughout the journey,

00:51:06.930 --> 00:51:11.060
Kevin, Nate, and the whole team,
they catch me when I fall.

00:51:12.110 --> 00:51:15.570
When I'm spreading my wings and going
crazy, they're letting me loose.

00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:18.700
I learned so much from them.

00:51:18.780 --> 00:51:21.410
I'm just so grateful
they gave me this opportunity

00:51:21.490 --> 00:51:25.580
to not only pay tribute and respect
of the past of MCU,

00:51:26.200 --> 00:51:29.670
but also extend the MCU into the future.

00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:35.840
And that, for me, is an honor.