WEBVTT 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:17.119 This programme contains some strong language, 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:19.706 Scab. 00:00:20.592 --> 00:00:21.831 No. No! 00:00:23.570 --> 00:00:26.129 Mrs Jackson? Yeah. Is your husband Gary Jackson? 00:00:26.154 --> 00:00:27.155 Yes! 00:00:28.520 --> 00:00:29.560 Gary! 00:00:32.149 --> 00:00:33.948 Get off of me! 00:00:34.030 --> 00:00:35.879 Gary Jackson's arrest file. 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:38.399 Some of it's redacted, restricted access. 00:00:38.400 --> 00:00:41.239 The officer that intervened to get it dropped was from the London Met. 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:44.759 We're having trouble accessing some of the relevant details, strangely. 00:00:44.760 --> 00:00:48.159 Well, as I'm sure you can appreciate, it was all quite 00:00:48.160 --> 00:00:51.439 a long time ago. The information Notts Constabulary require 00:00:51.440 --> 00:00:54.519 relates to a confidential matter elsewhere. 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:55.999 A confidential matter elsewh...? 00:00:56.000 --> 00:01:00.160 Nevertheless, we feel it might be good if you actually went there. 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:05.159 When you live in a village and come from a village, what's connected 00:01:05.160 --> 00:01:06.288 to a mine, 00:01:06.720 --> 00:01:10.120 what happens in t'community, happens to everybody. 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:10.639 We are now approaching Newstead, Newstead Station. 00:02:10.640 --> 00:02:14.199 This service is calling at all stations 00:02:14.200 --> 00:02:15.240 to Nottingham. 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:38.519 Sorry, ladies and gentlemen, there's just something... 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:41.560 ..on the... I've just got to check... 00:03:51.320 --> 00:03:55.999 Right. Let's gather. Had a murderer on the loose for 48 hours 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:58.799 and a very jittery village, so no fussing and flapping. 00:03:58.800 --> 00:03:59.840 Come on. 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:10.839 Right. 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:17.070 Erm... 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:19.320 ..just give me a minute, will you? 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:22.119 DCS St Clair? 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:25.279 St Clair. DI Salisbury. 00:04:25.280 --> 00:04:26.530 Kevin. 00:04:27.507 --> 00:04:30.210 We've dealt with each other before, during... 00:04:30.235 --> 00:04:31.995 Yeah, a lifetime ago, though, eh? 00:04:33.155 --> 00:04:36.020 I was surprised when they told me you were actually coming up. 00:04:36.278 --> 00:04:38.575 I mean, all we needed from your force was some restricted 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:40.119 information on a victim file. 00:04:40.559 --> 00:04:42.817 Could have sent you the questions online, 00:04:42.842 --> 00:04:45.119 power of Zoom and all that. Yeah, I'm sure. 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:48.114 But the powers that be and all that. 00:04:48.528 --> 00:04:51.839 My commissioner wanted to offer actual assistance, not just words. 00:04:51.840 --> 00:04:53.600 So, here I am. 00:04:54.696 --> 00:04:57.130 Right, well, I'm just taking the morning briefing, 00:04:57.155 --> 00:04:59.184 but there's a kitchen down there if you want a coffee. 00:04:59.795 --> 00:05:02.120 Maybe I could sit in, if that would be useful? 00:05:05.356 --> 00:05:08.919 This is DI Salisbury from the Metropolitan Police. 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:12.959 He's here to offer us any, um... assistance we might need. 00:05:12.960 --> 00:05:14.590 Morning. Morning. 00:05:14.615 --> 00:05:17.495 Now, the arrow that was let loose into Gary's body 00:05:17.520 --> 00:05:18.959 was from a crossbow. 00:05:18.960 --> 00:05:22.679 And the light source on his skull shows the shape of a *, 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:24.079 probably from the same weapon. 00:05:24.080 --> 00:05:25.186 Cleaver? 00:05:25.211 --> 00:05:29.599 Our victim profile of Gary Jackson, loving husband, dad and grandad, 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:33.679 retired miner, remained politically active as a member of the NUM, 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:36.839 mainly with ex-miners north of the border, but unpopular 00:05:36.840 --> 00:05:39.239 with some swathes of the community here for staying out 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:40.980 throughout in '84. 00:05:41.005 --> 00:05:45.375 The landlady at the welfare said a pool ball was thrown after Gary 00:05:45.400 --> 00:05:46.894 used the word "scab". 00:05:47.073 --> 00:05:50.039 He had his usual three pints of mix. 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:52.919 Neighbours have told us that Gary's been calling him that for years 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:55.399 and nothing's ever happened before. 00:05:55.400 --> 00:05:57.999 And I mean, come on, I've been called worse. 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:00.319 Haven't we all? Right, what about The Sparrows, 00:06:00.320 --> 00:06:01.439 the archery range? 00:06:01.440 --> 00:06:03.959 Yeah, I'm still working my way through a list of visitors, 00:06:03.960 --> 00:06:06.279 including any other, you know, so-called scabs. 00:06:06.280 --> 00:06:07.599 All right, OK. 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:10.239 Odd as it might sound, particularly for the younger ones, 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:13.239 and I don't mean to be patronising, but that word is still incredibly 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:15.769 loaded and very painful round here, 00:06:16.433 --> 00:06:19.331 where most of the miners didn't join the strike when the majority 00:06:19.356 --> 00:06:20.675 of miners in the UK did. 00:06:21.417 --> 00:06:25.679 And Gary Jackson was an exception in Nottinghamshire, 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:27.959 joining the picket line where that word was shouted 00:06:27.960 --> 00:06:32.800 out and caused a lot of anger and extreme violence. 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:36.480 So be mindful, all right? 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:40.759 You know, the tensions still rumble on and we don't want 00:06:40.760 --> 00:06:42.253 to make things worse. 00:06:43.018 --> 00:06:44.581 So, what about this dog? 00:06:45.315 --> 00:06:46.799 No, nothing really. 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:49.439 Right. Well, get onto the radio stations, get the word out. 00:06:49.440 --> 00:06:52.439 And what about the powder that was found in Gary's garden? 00:06:52.440 --> 00:06:53.559 Yeah. Spoke to the lab. 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:56.279 There's traces of ketamine, but it's burnt to shit. 00:06:56.280 --> 00:06:57.720 But they're going to do their best. 00:06:58.880 --> 00:07:00.117 Sir. 00:07:00.440 --> 00:07:02.639 Sorry. Control have been in touch. 00:07:02.640 --> 00:07:04.279 There's a train service near Newstead 00:07:04.280 --> 00:07:05.917 that's been attacked by an arrow. 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:07.260 What? 00:07:07.535 --> 00:07:08.935 Well, let's get down there. 00:07:10.091 --> 00:07:12.124 You carry on with this. Right. 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:18.599 Er, should I come with? Well, I don't know what the expectations 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:21.119 of Scotland Yard are... Well, my understanding was that 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:24.039 Nottingham made contact for help. ..but all we needed was information. 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:25.360 OK, fair enough. 00:07:26.320 --> 00:07:29.155 We'll take my car. It's ten minutes. Right. 00:07:29.180 --> 00:07:32.374 Erm, can I leave my stuff here? Whatever you want. Nice one. 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:58.040 I mean, unless he IS in his room and not answering... 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.519 But, no, no, I don't think he's in there. I think he's... 00:08:02.520 --> 00:08:05.559 We've got his sentencing this afternoon. Yeah, he'll be back. 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:07.959 He's just having one last night of freedom. 00:08:07.960 --> 00:08:10.519 That's all, or summat. You know, he had nothing to do with... 00:08:10.520 --> 00:08:13.079 So why didn't you tell the police about his weapons, then? 00:08:13.080 --> 00:08:15.959 How could you not have told them that? Plenty of folk would do 00:08:15.960 --> 00:08:18.045 that kind of thing - they're not killers! 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:25.079 I just don't know what to write in a card like this. 00:08:25.080 --> 00:08:28.279 Well, you don't write. She's your bleedin' sister. You go round, 00:08:28.280 --> 00:08:30.560 for Christ's sake. She won't want me to! 00:08:31.311 --> 00:08:34.879 And I can't just not say anything, can I? I can't not acknowledge it. 00:08:34.880 --> 00:08:38.279 So what do you want me to do, then, Fred? What am I expected to do? 00:08:38.280 --> 00:08:39.756 I'm going to write! 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:49.640 Where did I put my tool box? 00:09:21.983 --> 00:09:23.159 Ah... 00:09:35.460 --> 00:09:38.585 I'll be back in about an hour, then. Clear the outhouse, as well. 00:09:38.610 --> 00:09:41.479 I've just reset the devices. They're about to do another run. 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:43.717 I don't want the pigs finding your stuff if they search for it, Rory. 00:09:43.742 --> 00:09:45.920 And they will * search for it, so... 00:09:46.675 --> 00:09:48.074 Do as your mother says. 00:09:48.358 --> 00:09:51.440 Ronan, give him a hand. There's a good boy. 00:09:56.920 --> 00:09:58.241 And, Rory... 00:10:03.760 --> 00:10:07.279 Yeah, I'm not really sure what assistance I can provide 00:10:07.280 --> 00:10:09.919 beyond saying that it appears to be an arrow and it came 00:10:09.920 --> 00:10:15.279 from that direction over there. I'd say between 50 to 75 yards away. 00:10:15.280 --> 00:10:17.599 However, the trajectory is harder to determine. 00:10:17.600 --> 00:10:19.919 Well, can we at least check for prints? Yes, sir. 00:10:19.920 --> 00:10:23.879 Would an inclinometer help? You know, a laser pointer. 00:10:23.880 --> 00:10:25.850 You line it up with the angle of impact... Yeah, I know what 00:10:25.875 --> 00:10:29.759 an inclinometer is. But for an arrow, factoring in the wind, 00:10:29.760 --> 00:10:31.279 the skill of the shooter, 00:10:31.280 --> 00:10:34.159 not to mention the train in motion upon impact, 00:10:34.160 --> 00:10:36.399 I'm not sure it would help. 00:10:36.858 --> 00:10:38.319 Well, it's just a thought. 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:40.897 Anything else? No, that's it. I'll get this to the lab. 00:10:40.922 --> 00:10:42.562 Cheers. Thank you. 00:10:43.880 --> 00:10:46.279 Yeah, it's DCS St Clair again. 00:10:46.280 --> 00:10:49.080 I need NPAS to send up a helicopter ASAP. 00:10:50.026 --> 00:10:51.465 So not a one-off, then? 00:10:51.560 --> 00:10:55.400 Who knows? Could just be some silly twat imitating. 00:10:57.600 --> 00:10:59.919 All those people, a driver... 00:10:59.920 --> 00:11:02.895 Could be aiming at all of them or none of them, just random. 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:07.504 Where's it to and from, the line? 00:11:10.985 --> 00:11:14.265 The city, Nottingham. The villages. 00:11:16.640 --> 00:11:20.399 And that's really what it's called? Robin Hood? 00:11:20.400 --> 00:11:25.119 I wouldn't. The boss hates that kind of thing. What kind of thing? 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:28.000 Stories. Highfalutin ideas. 00:11:30.433 --> 00:11:31.947 Oi. 00:11:32.552 --> 00:11:34.025 What's with the notepad? 00:11:34.920 --> 00:11:36.307 Notes. 00:11:43.899 --> 00:11:45.459 Sorry to keep you waiting. 00:11:46.892 --> 00:11:50.055 Oh! Oh, we met. Saturday night. 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.680 Oh, yes. Yeah. Neel's wedding. 00:11:54.050 --> 00:11:56.090 Oh, erm, DI Salisbury. 00:11:57.520 --> 00:12:01.439 Oh, my. The Met. What are you lot doing up here? 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:04.264 Is this your regular route, Andy? Would someone know 00:12:04.289 --> 00:12:06.999 that you were going to pass at this time of day? Yeah. 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:08.920 Yeah, it's every day. It's, er... 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:15.360 What, you think they were aiming at me, whoever this is? 00:12:16.763 --> 00:12:21.203 Well, can you think of anyone or any reason why someone might do this? 00:12:22.265 --> 00:12:25.225 Erm... 00:12:26.772 --> 00:12:28.305 I can't think. 00:13:57.160 --> 00:13:59.600 Well, I'll get his suit ready, in case. 00:14:10.400 --> 00:14:11.880 So... 00:14:12.840 --> 00:14:14.706 ..fired from that direction 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:17.722 and then scarper back in there. 00:14:18.495 --> 00:14:20.015 What's that called? 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:24.839 That's Annesley Woods, part of the old Sherwood Forest. 00:14:27.329 --> 00:14:28.649 Don't. 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:52.239 I could do it. You know, instead of the phones. 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:54.159 I could, like, click on a load of things 00:14:54.160 --> 00:14:57.159 and like stuff and just do whatever. 00:14:57.160 --> 00:15:00.519 This automation software runs thousands of clicks an hour. 00:15:00.520 --> 00:15:01.785 You ain't that good, pal. 00:15:02.081 --> 00:15:05.363 It's only pocket money, anyhow. Not to be sniffed at, 00:15:05.437 --> 00:15:08.972 but just trying to make us more protected, you know? For change. 00:15:10.280 --> 00:15:13.799 Modern world. Not everyone gets it. 00:15:13.980 --> 00:15:16.720 He did, though... didn't he? 00:15:17.784 --> 00:15:21.551 That lad who'd come up here and train on the archery range. 00:15:21.810 --> 00:15:23.222 I just th... 00:15:23.400 --> 00:15:26.644 You know, I just thought, you come down here with him sometimes, 00:15:27.037 --> 00:15:29.477 you know, just talking tech and stuff. 00:15:30.634 --> 00:15:35.120 Look at him. Little man, with your beady eyes everywhere. 00:15:35.355 --> 00:15:38.839 No, no, I was just... It's all right. Family, innit? 00:15:39.308 --> 00:15:40.988 Look out for each other. 00:15:42.430 --> 00:15:45.990 Listen, this old boy that got killed the other night... 00:15:47.520 --> 00:15:50.879 The pigs are going to be looking at us, as ever, 00:15:50.880 --> 00:15:54.240 cos of who we are and with it being an arrow. 00:15:55.232 --> 00:15:58.611 The problem is, Sunday, we were just here, us lot. 00:15:58.698 --> 00:16:00.417 You were out, weren't you? 00:16:00.880 --> 00:16:02.600 With a mate, you said. 00:16:04.938 --> 00:16:06.858 Is he a good mate, this mate? 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:10.280 Yeah. 00:16:12.040 --> 00:16:16.330 The thing is, I'm sorry to ask, but you know what they're like. 00:16:16.744 --> 00:16:19.479 It'd really help if you and him could agree that I was 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:22.479 with you, an' all, on the park, having a kickabout. 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:24.679 Then we all just came back here, 00:16:24.680 --> 00:16:26.800 and we were all just here, if anyone asks. 00:16:27.760 --> 00:16:29.200 That'd be all right? 00:16:52.884 --> 00:16:54.666 All right. All right, mate? 00:16:56.728 --> 00:16:59.879 Thing is, it's my fence too. I know, and we always said 00:16:59.880 --> 00:17:01.119 we'd wait until after the wedding, 00:17:01.144 --> 00:17:03.119 and it's... Well, it's after the wedding. 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:06.439 It's just nice to use the momentum, that's all. All this new stuff... 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:08.639 OK, well, I've just had a bit of a day of it, that's all, 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:10.719 and I've come home to that mess outside. 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:13.159 Look, I'm not being funny, but how old was that fence? 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:15.239 It's practically rotten. We'll cover the cost, 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:18.519 and it's better for the both of us, then, eh? Right, Neel? Hey. Hey. 00:17:18.520 --> 00:17:20.919 There'll be a gate, still, won't there, between us? 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:22.839 That was important to your mum. 00:17:22.840 --> 00:17:27.039 Neel? Yeah. Where do you think for this occasional chair? 00:17:27.040 --> 00:17:29.689 Here? Mm, yeah. 00:17:33.051 --> 00:17:34.909 What's an occasional chair? 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:37.719 It's a chair you only sit on occasionally. 00:17:38.391 --> 00:17:40.959 What kind of chair do you only sit on only occasionally? 00:17:41.305 --> 00:17:44.119 Dad... Am I the only one who's never heard of that? 00:17:44.120 --> 00:17:45.999 Eh? An occasional chair. 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.359 Hotels have them. Oh! 00:17:48.625 --> 00:17:49.641 Why? 00:17:49.666 --> 00:17:52.159 Are we arguing about a chair? 00:17:53.380 --> 00:17:55.057 You're off straight away, are you? 00:17:55.453 --> 00:17:58.292 Have to. Work. Manchester. 00:17:58.380 --> 00:18:01.339 And then we've got our trip to Yorkshire - your steam train ride. 00:18:02.940 --> 00:18:06.339 That poor man on the news - he was at your reception. 00:18:06.340 --> 00:18:08.979 I bumped into him. Yeah. 00:18:08.980 --> 00:18:12.219 His... his wife works for me at the building society. 00:18:12.220 --> 00:18:14.579 I invited her. I didn't know him, though, but... 00:18:14.580 --> 00:18:18.179 Today on the train line, er, someone... aimed something at my cab. 00:18:18.450 --> 00:18:21.060 I think they think it's the same, erm... 00:18:22.060 --> 00:18:23.659 That I'm being, like... 00:18:23.660 --> 00:18:25.379 For some reason. 00:18:25.380 --> 00:18:27.460 And, erm, I think... Dad? 00:18:29.780 --> 00:18:31.779 Come here. All right. All right. 00:18:31.780 --> 00:18:34.440 All right. All right. 00:18:36.269 --> 00:18:37.869 Thanks for that speech. 00:18:40.020 --> 00:18:41.393 Was it all right? 00:18:41.956 --> 00:18:44.541 Yeah. And the money. 00:18:44.897 --> 00:18:47.697 Yeah. Yeah, you're welcome. 00:18:49.660 --> 00:18:52.166 Look what we got. Just wired it up. 00:18:53.060 --> 00:18:55.804 It's Bluetooth. 00:18:56.060 --> 00:18:59.539 Plays all the way through the house. Pick a song on your phone. 00:18:59.540 --> 00:19:01.700 Here, give me yours. Yeah. 00:19:02.900 --> 00:19:04.979 Just log in and, er... 00:19:04.980 --> 00:19:06.419 Bluetooth connected. 00:19:06.420 --> 00:19:08.859 ..pick a song. I don't have any songs. 00:19:09.515 --> 00:19:11.812 On the internet, then. Just pick anything. 00:19:13.575 --> 00:19:15.273 I can't think of anything, Neel. 00:19:17.260 --> 00:19:19.339 All right. OK. Yeah. All right. 00:19:19.340 --> 00:19:22.299 See you later. I'll see you later, yeah. 00:19:26.127 --> 00:19:27.847 So, you still live round here? 00:19:28.806 --> 00:19:31.085 Way back when, I think you lived in the village. 00:19:31.110 --> 00:19:33.687 I did, but now I live on the outskirts of the village. 00:19:36.460 --> 00:19:37.859 You married? 00:19:37.860 --> 00:19:39.203 Yes. 00:19:41.420 --> 00:19:42.659 Kids? 00:19:42.660 --> 00:19:43.899 No. 00:19:43.900 --> 00:19:45.500 No? 00:19:54.300 --> 00:19:55.939 How's your brother doing? 00:19:55.940 --> 00:19:57.260 Let's not. 00:20:00.780 --> 00:20:03.699 So, how long do we have you for, then, to go through all this? 00:20:03.700 --> 00:20:06.619 Well, like I say, I'm not completely sure 00:20:06.620 --> 00:20:08.580 how much use I'm going to be. 00:20:09.540 --> 00:20:12.226 Dog. What? Dog. Black dog. 00:20:18.689 --> 00:20:19.671 Taylor... 00:20:20.023 --> 00:20:23.419 ..and that - I mean her, sorry - to forensics. 00:20:23.420 --> 00:20:26.992 I need the collar and the lead checking for DNA and prints. 00:20:27.017 --> 00:20:30.499 Oh, and Gary Jackson and Andy Fisher, the driver of the train, 00:20:30.500 --> 00:20:32.859 they were both at the same wedding reception on Saturday. 00:20:32.860 --> 00:20:35.859 Get me a list of the guests, will you? Starting with me and my wife. 00:20:35.860 --> 00:20:37.500 Yep, sure thing. 00:20:39.020 --> 00:20:42.419 Look, if it's... if it's not too presumptuous, 00:20:42.420 --> 00:20:45.299 can I suggest one thing? You're obviously dying to say something, 00:20:45.300 --> 00:20:48.099 so why don't you? But I can assure you we're quite competent up here. 00:20:48.100 --> 00:20:51.499 I'm not saying you're not. Come on, you're a DCS, I'm a lowly DI. 00:20:51.500 --> 00:20:52.900 If anybody should be feeling... 00:20:54.500 --> 00:20:57.219 It's just I might have investigated a larger sample sum of murders 00:20:57.220 --> 00:21:00.699 down there, that's all. Oh, yeah, you think so? Try me. Go on. 00:21:00.700 --> 00:21:02.300 293. 00:21:03.260 --> 00:21:05.459 Well, London sounds * lovely. 00:21:05.460 --> 00:21:08.899 If you swab the dog's mouth, you might get a human profile 00:21:08.900 --> 00:21:14.339 to go through the DNA database. The dog might have bitten the murderer. 00:21:14.340 --> 00:21:16.579 Boss? From the lab. We have a match on prints 00:21:16.580 --> 00:21:18.619 from a polythene bag in the Jackson back yard. 00:21:18.620 --> 00:21:20.979 Aside from the victims, there were two other sets, 00:21:20.980 --> 00:21:23.459 both with records - Michael and Rory Sparrow. 00:21:23.460 --> 00:21:25.819 Great. You got a warrant? Working on it now. 00:21:25.820 --> 00:21:28.939 Let's go. Look, you can tag along, if you want. Yeah. 00:21:28.940 --> 00:21:32.619 But, hey, don't be flashing that badge around. The Met still provokes 00:21:32.620 --> 00:21:35.179 a lot of reaction round here. Well, if we're heading out, 00:21:35.180 --> 00:21:37.739 I might as well change into an actual suit, at least look like 00:21:37.740 --> 00:21:40.779 an investigating officer. The bog's down there. All right. 00:21:40.780 --> 00:21:43.180 I'll see you in the car. Yeah. 00:22:09.620 --> 00:22:12.259 We're just a family taxi firm. 00:22:12.260 --> 00:22:14.659 You're saying you haven't handled any class A drugs 00:22:14.660 --> 00:22:16.219 in the last couple of weeks? 00:22:16.220 --> 00:22:19.699 Well, I don't... I don't recall doing so, no. 00:22:19.700 --> 00:22:21.659 And you, sir, run an archery range? 00:22:21.660 --> 00:22:24.780 And you've had no contact with Gary Jackson either? 00:22:25.940 --> 00:22:28.499 Cos we found a burnt carrier bag in Gary's garden 00:22:28.500 --> 00:22:30.779 with your fingerprints on it 00:22:30.780 --> 00:22:32.859 and traces of ketamine. 00:22:32.860 --> 00:22:35.139 Unbelievable. 00:22:35.140 --> 00:22:37.219 This is un... 00:22:37.220 --> 00:22:42.179 You lot, you've been after this family for years, haven't you? 00:22:42.180 --> 00:22:45.219 And now there's a... Jesus, a dead body, 00:22:45.220 --> 00:22:48.459 and you can't believe your bloody luck. 00:22:48.460 --> 00:22:51.259 You daft bastards. 00:22:51.260 --> 00:22:54.859 There's plenty you could do us for if you had half a brain. 00:22:54.860 --> 00:22:58.419 Mickey... There you are, having to make stuff up. 00:22:58.420 --> 00:23:01.299 While we're playing guess the * who, 00:23:01.300 --> 00:23:03.459 what's wrong with simple Simon over here? 00:23:03.460 --> 00:23:05.659 Oh, I'm just here to observe... 00:23:05.660 --> 00:23:09.899 ..son. You live round here, don't you? He does, aye. 00:23:09.900 --> 00:23:11.939 I picked his missus up. 00:23:11.940 --> 00:23:14.579 Lovely little place off Derby Road. 00:23:14.580 --> 00:23:19.539 Excuse me. Sir, same fletching pattern as those that hit the train. 00:23:19.540 --> 00:23:24.259 Yeah, well, we sell them to visitors. Folk like that pattern. 00:23:24.260 --> 00:23:26.859 Right. Well, Michael Sparrow, Rory Sparrow, I'm arresting you 00:23:26.860 --> 00:23:29.579 on the suspicion of the murder... Oh, this is * ridiculous! 00:23:29.580 --> 00:23:32.459 You do not have to say anything... You've done this before. 00:23:32.460 --> 00:23:34.939 You know the drill. It's all right, we'll sort it. 00:23:34.940 --> 00:23:36.460 It's not too tight, is it? 00:23:38.460 --> 00:23:39.819 Yeah, bag that up, will you? 00:23:41.580 --> 00:23:44.419 Hey. I can't really talk. 00:23:44.420 --> 00:23:47.339 There's somebody firing arrows around the town. 00:23:47.340 --> 00:23:51.139 Well, where'd you hear that? A story online. Some train this morning? 00:23:51.140 --> 00:23:52.499 Shit. 00:23:52.500 --> 00:23:53.899 Should I be worried? 00:23:53.900 --> 00:23:58.059 No, no, you're fine. No, I meant you, idiot, out and about. 00:23:58.060 --> 00:24:02.379 No, I'm fine. Look, we've... we've got someone. Talk to you later. 00:24:02.380 --> 00:24:04.140 Bye. 00:24:26.460 --> 00:24:29.179 The solicitor says that the judge has issued 00:24:29.180 --> 00:24:32.059 a warrant for his arrest for missing his sentencing. 00:24:32.060 --> 00:24:33.300 Right. 00:24:34.580 --> 00:24:37.099 Well, that doesn't matter, he was going to jail anyway. 00:24:37.100 --> 00:24:39.860 But this will only add to it, won't it? 00:24:41.420 --> 00:24:42.859 So what now? 00:24:42.860 --> 00:24:46.459 Well, I don't know. The police'll probably come here, won't they? 00:24:46.460 --> 00:24:49.739 Police are already here. There's half a dozen on every street. 00:24:49.740 --> 00:24:52.979 Well, maybe that's why they haven't. Maybe that's why they won't, 00:24:52.980 --> 00:24:55.980 because there's not enough of them. A small matter like this... 00:24:58.260 --> 00:24:59.740 Fred? 00:25:09.220 --> 00:25:10.859 We're drinking, I'm sorry. 00:25:10.860 --> 00:25:13.179 Actually, I don't know why I said that. I'm not sorry. 00:25:13.180 --> 00:25:17.339 And, yeah, this is my underage 16-year-old granddaughter. 00:25:17.340 --> 00:25:19.219 Yeah, I know, arrest me. Do you want one? 00:25:19.220 --> 00:25:21.059 No. 00:25:21.060 --> 00:25:23.140 Oh, go on. Why not? 00:25:25.260 --> 00:25:27.299 All right. 00:25:27.300 --> 00:25:28.739 I've only got white wine. 00:25:28.740 --> 00:25:30.420 That's fine. 00:25:36.220 --> 00:25:37.620 So what's up? 00:25:38.940 --> 00:25:41.099 Can I ask, erm... 00:25:41.100 --> 00:25:44.139 ..what's your relationship with the Sparrow family? 00:25:44.140 --> 00:25:48.339 Oh, God, not them. Jesus Christ, tell me it's not them. 00:25:48.340 --> 00:25:51.779 No, we don't have any dealings with that lot. Why would we? 00:25:51.780 --> 00:25:53.180 They're a bunch of... 00:25:56.220 --> 00:25:58.540 Oh, shit. 00:25:59.500 --> 00:26:01.220 The allotment. 00:26:13.260 --> 00:26:16.179 Yeah, this is... this is Gary's. 00:26:16.180 --> 00:26:17.860 And that's the Sparrows'. 00:26:19.020 --> 00:26:21.700 I think this is the only contact they ever had, but... 00:26:23.140 --> 00:26:25.740 Go and see if we can get some access. Yes, sir. 00:26:29.860 --> 00:26:32.420 I suppose I'm going to have to pick all this, aren't I? 00:26:45.120 --> 00:26:47.120 Is it soon? I've no idea. 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.040 And when do you pick bloody parsnips? I haven't a clue. 00:26:54.080 --> 00:26:56.279 He's got a fancy camera there, 00:26:56.280 --> 00:26:59.960 sends pictures to his computer or summat, I don't know. 00:27:20.360 --> 00:27:22.560 Cinds? Is it true? 00:27:23.520 --> 00:27:26.599 Is it your family, Ronan, killed my grandad? They wouldn't. 00:27:26.600 --> 00:27:29.439 Except they would, wouldn't they? You don't know, you weren't there. 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.039 You were with me. Oi, they're not like that. 00:27:32.040 --> 00:27:33.759 Come and see me, then. 00:27:33.760 --> 00:27:37.240 You come and you look me in the eyes and you tell me that. 00:27:38.360 --> 00:27:39.840 I can't. 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:43.680 Why? 00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:47.959 The police are here. Listen, just wait. Just please... 00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:50.399 It's the police. They've always done... 00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:52.919 Just leave me alone, OK? If my mum and nan found out 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:54.399 I've been messing about with a... 00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:57.359 They would've killed me as it was, anyway, even before all this. 00:27:57.360 --> 00:27:59.599 Why would they have? I'm going. 00:27:59.600 --> 00:28:00.960 No, go on, say it. 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:08.519 A security camera shows Gary entering your allotment 00:28:08.520 --> 00:28:09.759 and taking something, 00:28:09.760 --> 00:28:13.319 and then the next day you and your son searching his plot. 00:28:13.320 --> 00:28:16.439 Were you looking to take revenge on Gary for taking your gear? 00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:19.439 I'm not the vengeful type. Too busy. 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:22.399 How do you account for your fingerprints on the burnt packet 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:23.719 of drugs, then? 00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:26.479 We've absolutely no scooby. 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:28.999 So where were you on the night of Sunday the 12th? 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:31.599 Well, like our Ronan's already told you, 00:28:31.600 --> 00:28:33.839 I were on t'park with him and his mate. 00:28:33.840 --> 00:28:36.319 And we all walked home together about eight or nine. 00:28:36.320 --> 00:28:38.199 So was it eight or nine? 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:40.880 I dunno. I don't have a watch. 00:28:42.360 --> 00:28:45.879 Do you know Andrew Fisher? He's the driver of a train that were attacked 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.279 this morning. No comment. 00:28:48.280 --> 00:28:51.679 Must be handy having an... archery range in your garden. 00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:54.079 You must be quite good now. 00:28:54.080 --> 00:28:55.919 Well... 00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:58.559 Fairly handy. Not bad. 00:28:58.560 --> 00:29:00.040 Not bad. 00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:13.240 Long day? 00:29:14.760 --> 00:29:18.119 Yeah, well, it sounds like you've got a strong case - 00:29:18.120 --> 00:29:19.640 motive, arrows... 00:29:21.320 --> 00:29:24.959 And I suppose all this is a sort of moot issue now, innit? 00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:26.800 Not for me, it isn't. 00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:30.960 This doesn't add up. 00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:34.680 Gary's arrest file. 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:39.679 As you'll see, there's a lot that I can't see, 00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:43.679 which is odd for an on-paper law-abiding husband 00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.680 whose charges were dropped. Yeah, I don't disagree. 00:29:47.800 --> 00:29:50.559 It's weird seeing these cardboard folders, isn't it, 00:29:50.560 --> 00:29:52.440 in the age of digitised everything? 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:57.519 Is there a transcript of the interview or an audio recording? 00:29:57.520 --> 00:30:00.079 Well, as I'm sure you know, the taping of interviews 00:30:00.080 --> 00:30:02.171 didn't start until 1991. 00:30:02.196 --> 00:30:06.920 Oh, yeah. But I spoke to Gary that night, so I remember. 00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:13.240 There was a lot that wasn't straightforward. But that was. 00:30:14.800 --> 00:30:17.519 He was accused, arrested, new evidence came forward 00:30:17.520 --> 00:30:19.240 and he were cleared, so why... 00:30:21.120 --> 00:30:22.919 ..why the secrecy? 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:25.679 Isn't that why you're here, to shed light on this? 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:28.159 I'm afraid I think my superiors sent me here 00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:31.160 because they're not granting access to any of this. 00:30:32.120 --> 00:30:34.639 So, what? You're just a gesture? 00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:37.440 Well, that's nice. I'm very touched. But I need to know... 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.279 ..if this adds to any other motivation for Gary's murder. 00:30:42.280 --> 00:30:44.519 Well, you've got the motivation. 00:30:44.520 --> 00:30:47.640 He burnt the Sparrows' drugs. And good for him. 00:30:49.280 --> 00:30:52.639 If there were anything amiss or anything new about that night, 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:54.320 I need to know. 00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.120 Look, I can only tell you what I know, all right? 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.080 One evening in October 1984... 00:31:04.040 --> 00:31:07.200 ..which would have been about, what, six months into the strike... 00:31:08.280 --> 00:31:13.079 ..and there was a tip-off that implicated Gary and four others 00:31:13.080 --> 00:31:16.040 as being involved in an attack which... 00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:21.080 ..caused some serious personal injury. 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:24.520 And one fatality. 00:31:30.600 --> 00:31:33.679 I was billeted here with hundreds of other London officers 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:36.280 to help police the escalating violence. 00:31:38.320 --> 00:31:40.280 By sheer circumstance... 00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:43.520 ..I was able to vouch for Gary that night... 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.400 ..although I didn't know him from Adam. 00:31:48.360 --> 00:31:52.640 And for which, incidentally, a black mark went against my name... 00:31:54.080 --> 00:31:56.320 ..for which, I believe, has forever f... 00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:10.399 Well, we appreciate you coming up. 00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:12.960 We've booked you on the train tomorrow morning. 00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.999 Er, sorry. It's, erm... 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:09.799 It's Jenny, right? 00:33:09.800 --> 00:33:13.320 Jenny Ryan? Well, it's been a while since I was Jenny Ry... 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:17.959 Is...? 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.079 Kevin! Yeah. 00:33:21.080 --> 00:33:22.640 Sorry, I just... 00:33:24.560 --> 00:33:26.959 Why on earth are you...? I was called up to assist with... 00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:30.359 Gary Jackson? Why? Why would they...? 00:33:30.360 --> 00:33:33.079 Well, I didn't ask to come back. I was assigned. 00:33:33.080 --> 00:33:35.920 They needed some information because of what ha... 00:33:39.120 --> 00:33:40.519 I'm sorry, erm, 00:33:40.520 --> 00:33:43.439 I didn't deliberately... I thought I'd be in and out. 00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:46.760 Well, I am in and out. I'm off home tomorrow. 00:33:50.040 --> 00:33:53.360 And what is home? London? Yeah. 00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:01.319 What about you? You, erm, still teaching? 00:34:01.320 --> 00:34:03.279 Headmistress. Local primary. 00:34:03.280 --> 00:34:05.200 Oh, wow! Thanks. That's great. 00:34:06.520 --> 00:34:09.560 Thank you. 00:34:12.720 --> 00:34:14.919 Er, family? 00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:17.479 Yeah. Well, no kids. 00:34:17.824 --> 00:34:19.941 Get enough of them at... 00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:23.559 But, yeah. You? Did...? 00:34:23.560 --> 00:34:25.120 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:34:26.720 --> 00:34:29.799 11.32, duck. Thank you. 00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.319 Well, I'm glad I bumped into you. 00:34:38.569 --> 00:34:41.262 It would have been weird not to. Yeah. 00:34:45.511 --> 00:34:46.776 Nice to see you. 00:34:48.346 --> 00:34:49.691 Likewise. 00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:55.246 4.99. 00:34:58.219 --> 00:34:59.459 Sorry. 00:35:47.604 --> 00:35:48.997 The steam train 00:36:51.990 --> 00:36:53.669 Er... 00:36:53.694 --> 00:36:56.006 Well, thank you. Thanks for inviting me. 00:36:56.031 --> 00:36:58.550 I am keen to keep you all, 00:36:58.575 --> 00:37:01.647 as councillors, up to speed with the situation. 00:37:02.200 --> 00:37:06.279 As many of you know, I grew up round here. You know, I was... 00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.799 This was my beat as a young constable. 00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:11.399 So I know the potential of something like this 00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:13.879 to inflame divisions in the community. 00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:17.079 Now, I can tell you that we have some people in custody. 00:37:17.080 --> 00:37:19.519 Yeah, but you know what folk are saying, though, right? 00:37:19.520 --> 00:37:21.719 That some *'s targeting striking miners. 00:37:21.720 --> 00:37:23.519 I mean, who's next? Am I next? 00:37:23.520 --> 00:37:26.719 No, we... have no reason to believe that's the case. 00:37:26.720 --> 00:37:30.579 After all, Mr Fisher here was the victim of the act of aggression. 00:37:30.604 --> 00:37:33.679 I hope the local elections are still going to be able to run all right, 00:37:33.680 --> 00:37:36.039 cos there are certain parties here who tend to benefit 00:37:36.040 --> 00:37:37.399 from a lower turnout. 00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:39.960 So if they're pushing for that, I'd just bear that in mind. 00:37:41.417 --> 00:37:44.399 Oh, come on, it was a joke. We're all going to get re-elected. 00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:46.919 Well, technically, you're not getting re-elected 00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:48.839 as an independent, are you? 00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:51.793 You'd be getting newly elected as a Conservative. 00:37:51.818 --> 00:37:55.258 I've always, deep down, been a Conservative, William. 00:37:55.777 --> 00:37:57.846 But until recently, that was like saying 00:37:57.871 --> 00:38:00.230 I had shit on toast for breakfast round here. 00:38:00.520 --> 00:38:03.613 Only it turns out we were the silent majority all along 00:38:03.638 --> 00:38:07.295 and just too intimidated to say. And if anyone should be worried 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:08.799 about what this attack might spark, 00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:10.949 it's those who come from the families that... 00:38:10.974 --> 00:38:15.573 Well, look, I won't speak ill of the dead - Gary Jackson - 00:38:15.598 --> 00:38:17.757 that's not who I am. 00:38:17.782 --> 00:38:22.901 But back in the day, the attacks on my father from striking miners, 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:24.759 my father, who ran the coach company 00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:26.879 that ferried the miners that wanted to work 00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:29.359 across the picket line despite, well, 00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:32.079 the eggs if you were lucky, the bricks if you weren't... 00:38:32.080 --> 00:38:34.520 You want to know where I get my politics from, Bill? 00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:40.120 My belief in the right of the individual to choose, that's where. 00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:49.679 So, not to state the bloody obvious, 00:39:49.680 --> 00:39:52.239 but given that the Sparrows were in custody last night... 00:39:52.240 --> 00:39:54.439 That's Chakrabarti at the table. 00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:56.159 Gimme a sec. 00:39:56.160 --> 00:39:57.329 Cleaver. 00:39:57.553 --> 00:39:59.048 Mm-hm. Go ahead. 00:40:04.560 --> 00:40:05.920 Thanks, Sally. 00:40:07.520 --> 00:40:12.319 Mr Chakrabarti? I'm Detective Superintendent St Clair. 00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:14.181 I'd just like to ask you some questions. 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.199 So, you were Gary Jackson's solicitor, yeah? 00:40:17.200 --> 00:40:18.400 Yeah, I... 00:40:19.392 --> 00:40:22.159 We were pursuing a new wrongful arrest claim, 00:40:22.160 --> 00:40:23.639 that's all, from back in the '80s. 00:40:23.640 --> 00:40:26.960 But I've no idea why he would have been killed or... 00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:29.800 ..why I'm now, er... 00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:35.280 Did you, erm, have any dealings with the Sparrow family at all? 00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.439 Dealings? No. But I know of them. 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:40.999 Sir? Minute. 00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:42.319 Why would they want to hurt me? 00:40:42.695 --> 00:40:44.398 Well... No. Sir. 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:47.519 You'll need to be thanking cockney what's-his-chops. 00:40:47.520 --> 00:40:50.559 The dog came through from a bite - DNA in the database. 00:40:50.560 --> 00:40:52.109 Rowley was meant to appear for sentencing 00:40:52.134 --> 00:40:54.851 in the magistrates' court yesterday, but he didn't show. 00:42:03.240 --> 00:42:05.999 Armed police! Armed police! Oh! 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:07.479 Hands behind your back! 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:10.239 On the floor! On the floor, come on! 00:42:10.240 --> 00:42:11.999 Hands behind your back! 00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.319 Stay where you are! 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:16.959 Stay where you are! Fred?! 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.399 Mrs Rowley, we have Scott's DNA connected to the crime scene, 00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:39.839 so we need to talk to him. 00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:41.320 Why would he? 00:42:42.520 --> 00:42:44.160 How could he? 00:42:46.164 --> 00:42:47.590 This is you. 00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:52.199 This is your fault! What am I going to say to her? 00:42:52.200 --> 00:42:54.759 What's anyone going to say to us? Mr Rowley, can you think 00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:56.999 why Scott would want to kill Gary? 00:42:57.000 --> 00:42:59.919 Look, it's extremely important that you answer my questions 00:42:59.920 --> 00:43:02.719 as best you can, so that if it is Scott, we can find out 00:43:02.720 --> 00:43:06.439 why he's doing this and prevent what he's planning on doing next. 00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:09.239 So I need you to think why he's choosing these targets, 00:43:09.240 --> 00:43:11.279 these people and places - 00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:15.720 Gary, the train at Newstead yesterday, the solicitor today. 00:43:17.096 --> 00:43:20.949 Gary's widow, that's your sister, isn't it, Cathy? 00:43:20.974 --> 00:43:23.481 Yeah. Nothing to do with Scott, though. They're not related. 00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.399 He had nowt to do with them. I had nowt to do with them. 00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.159 Practically avoided the hell out of each other. Ask her. 00:43:30.528 --> 00:43:34.765 It's well known that Gary was pretty vocal about his politics, though, 00:43:34.898 --> 00:43:39.836 and that you were a working miner and you stayed in work in '84. 00:43:41.092 --> 00:43:42.765 Yeah, but... 00:43:44.052 --> 00:43:45.252 That's me. 00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.719 You know, Scott wasn't even born, for fu... 00:43:49.720 --> 00:43:52.359 He didn't care about any of that. He didn't give a shit. 00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.080 He just spent all his time on his computers. Didn't he? 00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:01.359 Oh, but that's what folk are going to make out, innit? 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:03.879 That it's all to do with me somehow. 00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:07.279 Right, yeah. Well, what have I done?! 00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:08.800 Oh... 00:44:10.560 --> 00:44:13.920 He was due to be sentenced yesterday for benefit fraud. 00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:16.199 Yeah... 00:44:16.200 --> 00:44:19.239 So unfair, just cos he didn't declare his savings 00:44:19.240 --> 00:44:21.279 when he was claiming his unemployment. 00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:22.679 What savings does he have? 00:44:22.680 --> 00:44:25.759 My redundancy from the pits. I gave it him when he were little, 00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:30.679 during the divorce from his mum. She were f... 00:44:30.680 --> 00:44:33.927 It's complicated. Do you have any idea where he might have gone, 00:44:33.952 --> 00:44:35.959 you know, where he could be hiding out? 00:44:38.120 --> 00:44:40.060 Well, you lent him your garage. 00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.397 Can we go in? Yes, sir. 00:45:03.540 --> 00:45:04.654 OK... 00:45:05.157 --> 00:45:06.654 Shit! 00:45:07.358 --> 00:45:09.639 So Scott's been withdrawing in increments 00:45:09.640 --> 00:45:11.498 the entirety of his dad's redundancy 00:45:11.523 --> 00:45:13.643 over the last three months in cash. 00:45:14.698 --> 00:45:16.818 Cleared out the final amount on Saturday... 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:19.479 ..a little over 15 grand. 00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:20.800 Oof! 00:45:24.466 --> 00:45:25.842 Close this. 00:45:40.101 --> 00:45:42.021 What the hell does that mean? 00:45:43.052 --> 00:45:45.332 I don't know, but it's not good. 00:45:56.536 --> 00:46:00.495 You're listening to Mansfield Radio. Now, we're just getting word, 00:46:00.520 --> 00:46:03.199 and we must stress this is unconfirmed, but following 00:46:03.200 --> 00:46:06.879 yesterday's target of a Newstead train, it's hard to believe, 00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:10.399 but another arrow attack has been reported in Ashfield. 00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:12.999 Now, as it stands, the police have yet to comment on 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.999 or confirm what has happened, but we are getting lots of calls and texts 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:17.520 from listeners who are anxious... 00:47:20.269 --> 00:47:22.719 Hi, mate. A delivery for next door, but no-one's in. 00:47:22.720 --> 00:47:24.378 Can I leave it with you? Yeah. 00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:27.800 Cheers. All right. 00:47:28.138 --> 00:47:29.778 Thank you. All right. 00:47:35.200 --> 00:47:36.680 When's my dad back? 00:47:38.200 --> 00:47:41.319 Um, they're just waiting for the ship to dock, 00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:43.359 and then they'll try and get a flight back, 00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:44.880 but they're on their way. 00:47:46.842 --> 00:47:49.642 Does it hurt, do you think, to die? 00:47:50.995 --> 00:47:54.855 Oh, my God. Why are you asking me that? Do you not think 00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:57.740 I'm doing everything I can not to think about that?! 00:48:08.249 --> 00:48:10.037 There's something going on at Auntie Cathy's. 00:48:13.500 --> 00:48:17.460 Did I say something that would make the police think...? 00:48:19.020 --> 00:48:21.219 Oh, shit, I'm trying to think. 00:48:21.220 --> 00:48:24.180 But they arrested them, the Sparrows. 00:48:26.580 --> 00:48:29.140 I'm going to call her, me sister. Sod it! 00:48:35.700 --> 00:48:37.620 Oh, God. 00:48:38.493 --> 00:48:40.062 She knows. 00:48:41.285 --> 00:48:42.605 She knows. 00:48:49.620 --> 00:48:51.580 Hi, this is Cathy. Leave a message. 00:49:11.780 --> 00:49:14.139 So, Scott isn't exactly Edward Snowden. 00:49:14.140 --> 00:49:18.273 His hacking, such as it is, is self-taught and pretty amateur. 00:49:18.298 --> 00:49:20.979 So what's he looking for? Analysts don't know yet. 00:49:20.980 --> 00:49:23.979 A lot of it centres on Gary at first, I'd say to the point 00:49:23.980 --> 00:49:26.619 of obsessive, but then there's others based locally, 00:49:26.620 --> 00:49:29.459 including the solicitor who was targeted this morning. 00:49:29.460 --> 00:49:32.300 Chakrabarti. All right, I'll get over there. 00:49:35.980 --> 00:49:38.019 How far did you get? 00:49:38.020 --> 00:49:39.945 I was on the platform. 00:49:41.220 --> 00:49:43.640 Well, we don't need you. Look... 00:49:44.380 --> 00:49:47.515 ..if these targets have got something to do with Gary's arrest, 00:49:48.295 --> 00:49:51.935 then maybe I should stick around. I'd like to, all right? 00:49:55.060 --> 00:49:56.740 Come on, then. 00:50:04.326 --> 00:50:06.605 I didn't mean to withhold any, erm, 00:50:06.700 --> 00:50:08.579 from when we spoke earlier, I just... 00:50:08.580 --> 00:50:10.859 I deal mainly in family law and tax disputes, 00:50:10.860 --> 00:50:13.900 not anything to do with, erm... It's all right, just from the beginning. 00:50:15.140 --> 00:50:19.466 I've been helping with some wrongful arrest claims from the strike, 00:50:19.700 --> 00:50:22.659 a lot of which have been gathering steam since... 00:50:22.660 --> 00:50:25.420 ..with the campaign around Orgreave and so on. 00:50:26.334 --> 00:50:30.374 Over 11,000 miners were arrested during that year. 11,000. 00:50:31.860 --> 00:50:34.299 And even though Gary's charges were dropped, he always felt 00:50:34.300 --> 00:50:37.459 he'd been blacklisted from then on, pushed out of the job he loved. 00:50:37.460 --> 00:50:41.699 He wanted to know more about why he'd been arrested, 00:50:42.028 --> 00:50:44.495 who had it in for him, who'd got it wrong. There's... 00:50:47.220 --> 00:50:51.459 I'm not a conspiracy nut, tinfoil hat in the basement kind of... 00:50:51.898 --> 00:50:53.300 Well, go on. 00:50:54.620 --> 00:50:56.739 Do you know what a spy cop is? 00:50:56.740 --> 00:50:59.667 Yeah, course. I mean, I never personally, but... 00:51:00.886 --> 00:51:03.645 Undercover cops in the, what, '60s and '70s? 00:51:03.670 --> 00:51:07.579 There's an inquiry going on now about... Well, into the practices 00:51:07.580 --> 00:51:10.379 of one old unit from Scotland Yard. What was it called? Erm... 00:51:10.380 --> 00:51:14.219 S... SDS. The Special Demonstration Squad, yes. 00:51:14.220 --> 00:51:17.939 And the inquiry is looking into how and why these spy cops 00:51:17.940 --> 00:51:20.859 penetrated so-called radical groups. 00:51:20.860 --> 00:51:22.539 The unit's been disbanded, though. 00:51:22.540 --> 00:51:24.419 But that doesn't help the people 00:51:24.420 --> 00:51:26.859 who over 20, 30 years were unlawfully snooped on 00:51:26.860 --> 00:51:29.380 by their own government purely because of their politics. 00:51:30.820 --> 00:51:34.499 There's long been a belief that this practice was deployed 00:51:34.500 --> 00:51:37.539 in mining communities back then, that the Government placed 00:51:37.540 --> 00:51:40.459 undercover officers with fictional identities 00:51:40.460 --> 00:51:44.619 into the unions or places like this to gain the confidence of the locals 00:51:45.094 --> 00:51:47.699 but were secretly feeding back intel to the Met Police, 00:51:47.700 --> 00:51:51.140 possibly the Home Office, even the security services. 00:51:52.758 --> 00:51:56.899 Gary's beloved NUM not only believe this is all plausible, 00:51:56.900 --> 00:51:59.700 they also told him of a rumour they'd picked up... 00:52:01.060 --> 00:52:05.579 ..about an undercover spy sent to this community. 00:52:05.580 --> 00:52:11.259 Possibly that informant singled out Gary as a militant for arrest. 00:52:11.260 --> 00:52:13.659 But - and I'm not defending the practice - 00:52:13.660 --> 00:52:15.419 these undercover... Spies. 00:52:15.420 --> 00:52:17.540 ..officers, OK? Officers. 00:52:18.820 --> 00:52:21.179 Well, they were following orders, and they buggered off 00:52:21.180 --> 00:52:23.419 when it all ended. Yeah, but that's the thing. 00:52:23.420 --> 00:52:26.900 Apparently, this undercover officer didn't bugger off. 00:52:28.312 --> 00:52:30.551 The rumour, which Gary believed, 00:52:30.700 --> 00:52:32.939 is that he never left - quite the opposite. 00:52:32.940 --> 00:52:38.179 He said that he stayed, that this was someone who assumed an identity, 00:52:38.180 --> 00:52:42.099 moved here in the '80s, spied on people 00:52:42.100 --> 00:52:47.524 and then remained here under their fictional persona to this day. 00:53:28.260 --> 00:53:31.820 Oh, God. Thank you. Thank you. 00:53:33.949 --> 00:53:35.771 There isn't going to be a gate, is there? 00:53:37.195 --> 00:53:39.274 There's no gate, is there? 00:53:39.580 --> 00:53:44.560 We have a landscape gardener. She's making all the decisions. We just... 00:53:45.340 --> 00:53:47.259 That's what all this is. 00:53:47.260 --> 00:53:50.099 Just speak to Neel about it. 00:53:50.100 --> 00:53:52.899 He's the one with the green fingers, not me. 00:53:52.900 --> 00:53:54.899 You could have just talked to me about it 00:53:54.900 --> 00:53:57.379 if that's what you wanted, eh? 00:53:57.380 --> 00:54:00.500 I'm not a child. No, I know, I know. 00:54:01.740 --> 00:54:04.299 I wanted to, I did. I told Neel we should, but he just kept 00:54:04.300 --> 00:54:08.244 putting it off. Well, what did he think I was going to do? I'm not... 00:54:08.609 --> 00:54:12.772 Oh, God, it just... It just feels like everything's... 00:54:12.797 --> 00:54:16.459 Changing. Yeah. Because it is, Andy! 00:54:16.460 --> 00:54:18.619 Your son's just got married. 00:54:18.620 --> 00:54:22.659 He's not... He's not just your son any more, he's my husband. 00:54:22.660 --> 00:54:24.739 And we want a life together. 00:54:24.740 --> 00:54:27.427 Right? And... and it's not Neel. 00:54:27.452 --> 00:54:31.339 I don't want to feel like you can just come and go when you please. 00:54:31.340 --> 00:54:33.709 I don't want to look up and see you standing there, Andy. 00:54:33.734 --> 00:54:36.499 And I don't want to hear you come in while I'm having a bloody piss! 00:54:36.500 --> 00:54:39.334 I don't think that's unreasonable! 00:54:39.500 --> 00:54:41.379 Me and his mother... 00:54:41.380 --> 00:54:43.419 His mother isn't here any more! 00:54:43.420 --> 00:54:46.739 Yeah. Because she died. 00:54:46.740 --> 00:54:49.019 No. No, Andy. 00:54:49.020 --> 00:54:50.299 She killed herself. 00:54:50.300 --> 00:54:52.539 And everyone pretends otherwise. 00:54:52.540 --> 00:54:55.299 And it's not healthy. It's not right. 00:54:55.300 --> 00:54:58.419 Because she was dying of that disease. 00:54:58.420 --> 00:55:01.739 - She was dying inside. - Yeah... 00:55:01.764 --> 00:55:04.638 I bet she bloody were. For years! 00:55:08.761 --> 00:55:10.286 Oh, God... 00:55:12.060 --> 00:55:14.388 Oh... 00:55:14.740 --> 00:55:16.460 Look, that was horrible...