WEBVTT 00:01:01.061 --> 00:01:03.689 IHWA ATM NEW PRODUCT MODEL NAME: WIAQ8521 00:01:04.606 --> 00:01:07.818 The biggest strength of the 2022 model of the automatic teller machine 00:01:07.901 --> 00:01:10.862 developed by Ihwa ATM is… 00:01:12.281 --> 00:01:14.032 Before I reveal this, 00:01:14.116 --> 00:01:20.080 I've prepared some news that could be a bit upsetting for you to see. 00:01:20.163 --> 00:01:21.456 All right, now. 00:01:22.666 --> 00:01:23.917 This may sting a bit. 00:01:25.961 --> 00:01:27.629 You've all seen this article, right? 00:01:27.713 --> 00:01:31.216 "A bold bank clerk embezzles a billion won in cash by rigging an ATM." 00:01:31.300 --> 00:01:32.884 "Continuous insider embezzlement." 00:01:32.968 --> 00:01:34.428 "The discovery of a bank clerk responsible for embezzlement 00:01:34.511 --> 00:01:36.346 leads to other banks' hasty inspection." 00:01:37.306 --> 00:01:40.350 A total of 42 ATM-related embezzlement cases this year alone. 00:01:40.434 --> 00:01:43.020 And the damages go way over ten billion. 00:01:43.103 --> 00:01:47.107 The press always says there was negligence in the management and supervision 00:01:47.190 --> 00:01:49.359 by the bank and that the system of inspection is the problem. 00:01:50.110 --> 00:01:51.903 But you know how this is. 00:01:51.987 --> 00:01:56.158 If someone is determined to deceive, how could you not fall for it? 00:01:56.241 --> 00:02:00.537 It's impossible to know what goes on in someone's head. 00:02:00.621 --> 00:02:02.539 This concern of yours 00:02:03.206 --> 00:02:05.792 will be solved by Ihwa ATM. 00:02:05.876 --> 00:02:09.004 This is the inside of an ATM, which all bank clerks would know about. 00:02:09.087 --> 00:02:13.091 This here is the cassette, where cash is loaded in. 00:02:13.175 --> 00:02:15.927 If the employee in charge puts 50 million won in the cassette 00:02:16.011 --> 00:02:19.097 but records in the system that he put in 100 million, would we know? 00:02:19.681 --> 00:02:21.224 No, we wouldn't. 00:02:21.308 --> 00:02:23.018 We'd be fooled without even knowing. 00:02:23.769 --> 00:02:26.438 So Ihwa ATM thought, 00:02:27.356 --> 00:02:29.274 "Let's create a new cassette." 00:02:29.775 --> 00:02:32.194 "Let's make an honest cassette 00:02:32.277 --> 00:02:35.113 where lies and tricks won't work." 00:02:38.158 --> 00:02:40.786 A bill's weight is always the same. 00:02:40.869 --> 00:02:44.081 Unless it's torn or severely damaged, it's similar in weight. 00:02:44.706 --> 00:02:47.459 We at Ihwa ATM focused on that. 00:02:47.542 --> 00:02:48.627 The employee in charge 00:02:48.710 --> 00:02:52.339 not only has to record the amount of the bills that he loads in the system 00:02:52.422 --> 00:02:55.092 but also has to enter it here as well. 00:02:55.175 --> 00:02:59.304 If the employee in charge enters into the system to load 300 bills… 00:03:03.433 --> 00:03:05.227 but only puts in 299, 00:03:06.019 --> 00:03:07.521 you see the red light come on? 00:03:07.604 --> 00:03:10.982 Also, the cassette door doesn't lock 00:03:11.650 --> 00:03:13.110 because this honest cassette 00:03:13.193 --> 00:03:16.113 calculates the weight of the bills on its own. 00:03:16.196 --> 00:03:20.200 Its accuracy doesn't even allow an error of a single bill. 00:03:20.992 --> 00:03:22.869 Isn't this the thing from before? 00:03:24.663 --> 00:03:26.623 Is that the strength you mentioned? 00:03:26.706 --> 00:03:27.707 Yes, it is. 00:03:27.791 --> 00:03:30.877 It is our new product using Ihwa's technology. 00:03:30.961 --> 00:03:32.587 Geumgang uses this too. 00:03:33.797 --> 00:03:34.714 What? 00:03:34.798 --> 00:03:37.008 Leaders' products had it as well. 00:03:37.092 --> 00:03:39.636 You know the model that was recalled last year, right? 00:03:40.470 --> 00:03:43.056 Their cassettes had this too. 00:03:44.141 --> 00:03:47.352 But this technology is ours. 00:03:47.436 --> 00:03:50.647 We developed it two years ago and applied for model utility rights too. 00:03:50.731 --> 00:03:52.023 Model utility rights? 00:03:52.107 --> 00:03:54.234 Oh, like a patent? 00:03:54.317 --> 00:03:55.360 That's right. 00:03:55.444 --> 00:03:59.030 This isn't technology that can be patented, 00:03:59.114 --> 00:04:01.408 but we worked very hard into designing this. 00:04:01.491 --> 00:04:03.744 The technology is enough to get model utility rights. 00:04:03.827 --> 00:04:06.121 Maybe the technology was leaked then. 00:04:06.204 --> 00:04:08.331 You should look into that, Director. 00:04:08.415 --> 00:04:11.793 Whether or not another company stole what Ihwa developed. 00:04:11.877 --> 00:04:13.211 Well… 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:15.130 Right, yes. 00:04:15.839 --> 00:04:17.215 I will check. 00:04:17.299 --> 00:04:20.010 To be honest, what matters to the bank is the cost. 00:04:20.552 --> 00:04:22.053 Copied or not, 00:04:22.137 --> 00:04:25.682 the same technology is also used in Geumgang's ATMs, and they're cheaper. 00:04:25.766 --> 00:04:28.685 Then we have no other option but to sign a contract with them. 00:04:28.769 --> 00:04:29.728 I see. 00:04:29.811 --> 00:04:31.521 We're really not interested in 00:04:31.605 --> 00:04:33.732 who originally came up with this technology. 00:04:38.278 --> 00:04:42.199 CASE 5 WILD CARD VS TACTICIAN 00:04:47.078 --> 00:04:48.121 Hello. 00:04:48.205 --> 00:04:49.372 -Hello. -Hello. 00:04:52.417 --> 00:04:53.710 Young-woo, did you eat? 00:04:54.252 --> 00:04:56.213 Su-yeon, I did. 00:04:58.423 --> 00:05:00.425 Did Attorney Kwon tell you? 00:05:00.509 --> 00:05:01.510 What? 00:05:02.636 --> 00:05:04.387 He didn't tell you yet? 00:05:04.471 --> 00:05:05.931 I knew this would happen. 00:05:08.975 --> 00:05:10.477 The ATM company case. 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:12.896 You've been assigned to it with Attorney Kwon. 00:05:14.105 --> 00:05:14.940 What? 00:05:15.023 --> 00:05:17.776 Attorney Jung was about to call and tell you himself, 00:05:17.859 --> 00:05:20.987 but Attorney Kwon stopped him and said he would tell you. 00:05:21.738 --> 00:05:24.658 I had my suspicions but he really didn't tell you. 00:05:30.539 --> 00:05:32.916 My friend who went to Hana University law school 00:05:32.999 --> 00:05:36.253 told me Attorney Kwon's nickname. Guess what it was. 00:05:37.337 --> 00:05:39.881 -I don't know. -Tactician Kwon Min-woo. 00:05:41.466 --> 00:05:43.009 "Tactician Kwon Min-woo"? 00:05:43.093 --> 00:05:44.261 Watch out. 00:05:44.344 --> 00:05:47.347 It seems like Min-woo's tactics have already begun. 00:05:48.348 --> 00:05:50.016 -You think so? -Of course. 00:05:50.100 --> 00:05:53.353 Why wouldn't he have told you that you were assigned a case together? 00:05:55.897 --> 00:05:56.856 Right. 00:06:02.362 --> 00:06:03.280 Come in. 00:06:08.493 --> 00:06:09.536 Attorney Kwon. 00:06:11.037 --> 00:06:13.790 Why didn't you tell me we were assigned a case together? 00:06:13.873 --> 00:06:15.083 I didn't tell you? 00:06:15.166 --> 00:06:16.585 No, you didn't tell me. 00:06:17.919 --> 00:06:19.754 I'm sorry. It must've slipped my mind. 00:06:21.214 --> 00:06:25.677 So there's a lot to look at in terms of the structure of ATMs. 00:06:28.638 --> 00:06:31.391 But this is a piece of cake for you, right? 00:06:31.474 --> 00:06:33.059 Since you're a genius. 00:06:35.312 --> 00:06:36.271 Here. 00:06:37.981 --> 00:06:39.482 Right. Did I tell you? 00:06:39.566 --> 00:06:41.901 -We're meeting with the client today. -What? 00:06:42.611 --> 00:06:43.612 At 2 p.m. 00:06:44.237 --> 00:06:45.822 Gosh, it slipped my mind again. 00:07:02.380 --> 00:07:05.008 -Did you take a look at the materials? -Well… 00:07:05.091 --> 00:07:08.178 Yes. It was a bit difficult because there was a lot of unfamiliar jargon. 00:07:08.261 --> 00:07:11.056 -But I managed to go over all of it once. -Okay, let's go in. 00:07:13.475 --> 00:07:15.060 -Good afternoon. -Good afternoon. 00:07:15.143 --> 00:07:17.520 I'm Attorney Jung Myeong-seok, and I'll be handling your case. 00:07:17.604 --> 00:07:19.272 Hello, I'm Woo Young-woo. 00:07:19.356 --> 00:07:20.482 Whether it's read straight or flipped, it's-- 00:07:20.565 --> 00:07:22.609 She's Woo Young-woo, and I'm Kwon Min-woo. 00:07:22.692 --> 00:07:25.153 -Kayak, deed, rotator, noon, racecar. -Right. 00:07:25.236 --> 00:07:27.405 I'm Hwang Du-yong, the one who called. 00:07:27.489 --> 00:07:29.783 -Nice to meet you. Please, have a seat. -Okay. 00:07:30.700 --> 00:07:31.910 Before we start, 00:07:32.911 --> 00:07:34.913 I brought some mulberry juice. 00:07:34.996 --> 00:07:38.541 They're made with farm-fresh mulberries from Yanggu. 00:07:38.625 --> 00:07:42.504 It's been a while since I heard of Yanggu. I did my military training in Yanggu. 00:07:42.587 --> 00:07:44.756 Really? I also did mine in Yanggu. 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:46.716 Were you at the Baekdusan unit? 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:47.634 Baekdusan. 00:07:49.052 --> 00:07:50.053 Salute! 00:07:50.595 --> 00:07:51.680 Salute. 00:07:51.763 --> 00:07:54.683 You must've shoveled a lot of snow. 00:07:54.766 --> 00:07:55.976 Guns and knives may rust, 00:07:56.059 --> 00:07:57.560 -but the shovel still shines. -But the shovel still shines. 00:07:59.521 --> 00:08:01.815 So, where did you serve? 00:08:01.898 --> 00:08:04.275 Yes, I was at the Chilseong unit. 00:08:05.694 --> 00:08:08.071 United we can! 00:08:08.154 --> 00:08:10.991 A top name! You're from one of the famous infantries. 00:08:11.074 --> 00:08:13.368 I'm from the Seventh Infantry, where they say only people 00:08:13.451 --> 00:08:14.869 who committed the seven sins in their past lives can get in. 00:08:14.953 --> 00:08:18.581 Gosh, the Seventh Infantry. I wonder where he served. 00:08:19.332 --> 00:08:21.209 You look like you served in the marines. 00:08:21.793 --> 00:08:22.919 No. 00:08:24.921 --> 00:08:27.215 Well, it's nice to meet everyone. 00:08:27.298 --> 00:08:29.634 We should be drinking to this. 00:08:29.718 --> 00:08:31.970 Why don't we make a toast with the mulberry juice? 00:08:32.053 --> 00:08:33.596 -Should we? -Yes, that sounds good. 00:08:36.599 --> 00:08:37.934 I look forward to working with you. 00:08:38.018 --> 00:08:40.186 -Same here. -I will do my best! 00:08:48.403 --> 00:08:50.739 -It's good, right? -Yes. 00:08:51.489 --> 00:08:54.492 Now then, your request 00:08:55.076 --> 00:08:58.955 is that you wish to file for a sales ban injunction against Geumgang ATM? 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:03.043 Yes, Ihwa ATM and Geumgang ATM 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:06.421 are Hanbada Law Firm and Taesan Law Firm of the ATM industry. 00:09:06.504 --> 00:09:09.007 Neck and neck, destined to be rivals? 00:09:09.090 --> 00:09:12.427 Yes, it's so close that you can't really pick one. 00:09:12.510 --> 00:09:13.636 Ocean or mountain? 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:15.180 Jjajangmyeon or jjamppong? 00:09:15.263 --> 00:09:16.473 To pour the sauce or dip in the sauce? 00:09:16.556 --> 00:09:18.224 Blue whales or humpback whales? 00:09:18.308 --> 00:09:19.476 What? 00:09:21.853 --> 00:09:26.107 Anyway, it's like that for Ihwa and Geumgang. 00:09:26.191 --> 00:09:29.194 And there was Leaders ATM, a new player in the industry, 00:09:29.277 --> 00:09:31.905 but they went out of business last year. 00:09:31.988 --> 00:09:33.615 It's always fun to hear these kinds of stories. 00:09:33.698 --> 00:09:34.532 Yes. 00:09:34.616 --> 00:09:39.120 Gosh, I hope the Geumgang people learn a lesson this time. 00:09:39.204 --> 00:09:42.373 They shouldn't be sneaking around, 00:09:42.457 --> 00:09:46.795 taking the technology that we worked really hard to develop. 00:09:46.878 --> 00:09:50.006 They've done this a few times already. Including this cassette. 00:09:50.090 --> 00:09:52.133 You must be so upset. 00:09:52.801 --> 00:09:54.010 What's a cassette? 00:09:54.844 --> 00:09:56.638 Oh, well… 00:10:00.433 --> 00:10:01.559 The cassette is… 00:10:01.643 --> 00:10:02.811 I can explain what it is. 00:10:02.894 --> 00:10:05.980 It's the container where cash is put with a handle on the front. 00:10:06.064 --> 00:10:08.566 I did a little homework before we came here to meet you. 00:10:09.776 --> 00:10:11.820 Attorney Kwon. 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:13.863 Attorney Kwon Min-woo. 00:10:21.204 --> 00:10:23.998 Anyway, the cassette was developed by us 00:10:24.082 --> 00:10:26.084 and we applied for its model utility rights. 00:10:26.167 --> 00:10:30.296 So you've applied for it, but it hasn't been registered yet? 00:10:30.380 --> 00:10:34.300 No, there were a lot of procedures to go through even after the application. 00:10:34.384 --> 00:10:37.137 There wasn't much material on the application for the rights. 00:10:37.220 --> 00:10:38.638 Could you perhaps give us more? 00:10:38.721 --> 00:10:41.516 Of course. I'll send you everything I have. 00:10:41.599 --> 00:10:44.644 Then please send them to the number on my business card. 00:10:44.727 --> 00:10:46.020 Yes, I will. 00:10:46.896 --> 00:10:52.735 I came in today thinking it was going to be a brief introduction. 00:10:52.819 --> 00:10:54.112 Would it be okay if we end things here for now? 00:10:54.195 --> 00:10:55.530 Yes, of course. 00:10:55.613 --> 00:10:56.948 All right. 00:10:57.991 --> 00:10:59.951 I look forward to working with you. 00:11:00.034 --> 00:11:01.911 Thank you for the juice. 00:11:01.995 --> 00:11:03.163 It was nice to meet you. 00:11:03.955 --> 00:11:04.998 Take care. 00:11:05.081 --> 00:11:06.457 -Yes, thank you. -Sure. 00:11:08.501 --> 00:11:10.044 As I mentioned before, 00:11:10.128 --> 00:11:14.716 this case will be led by the two of you, Attorney Woo and Attorney Kwon. 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:16.426 I'll just be mentoring on the side. 00:11:16.509 --> 00:11:17.760 -Got it. -Got it. 00:11:17.844 --> 00:11:19.804 I know there are a lot of unfamiliar terms 00:11:19.888 --> 00:11:22.015 but review the materials thoroughly. 00:11:22.098 --> 00:11:24.559 The model utility rights for the cassette is key to this case. 00:11:24.642 --> 00:11:26.811 Shouldn't you be aware of what a cassette is? 00:11:28.146 --> 00:11:29.314 Well… 00:11:31.149 --> 00:11:34.027 -Yes, I should. -Make sure this doesn't happen again. 00:11:35.904 --> 00:11:37.155 -All right. -Right. 00:11:39.365 --> 00:11:40.366 Here you go. 00:11:41.409 --> 00:11:42.911 -I'll get going. -Okay. 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:53.838 I had a hard time because I didn't get to see the case materials beforehand. 00:11:53.922 --> 00:11:56.424 Please share them with me without forgetting next time. 00:11:56.507 --> 00:11:58.384 Well, no. 00:11:59.886 --> 00:12:00.762 What? 00:12:00.845 --> 00:12:03.681 Why should I share materials with my competition? 00:12:04.432 --> 00:12:08.603 It's not just Hanbada and Taesan, Ihwa and Geumgang that are competing. 00:12:08.686 --> 00:12:09.646 We're competing too. 00:12:10.271 --> 00:12:12.440 You and I are both here on a one-year contract. 00:12:12.523 --> 00:12:14.943 And we need good performance reviews to get our contracts renewed. 00:12:15.026 --> 00:12:19.405 Every single action, every single case. They'll all be evaluated. 00:12:20.490 --> 00:12:24.160 But I guess you're not really interested in getting your contract renewed, right? 00:12:25.662 --> 00:12:27.747 If you were, you wouldn't have been absent without notice like that. 00:12:28.456 --> 00:12:29.457 That's… 00:12:31.584 --> 00:12:33.878 I'm interested in getting my contract renewed too. 00:12:36.047 --> 00:12:37.882 Then we're competitors. 00:12:38.800 --> 00:12:40.635 Though it seems as if I'm winning again. 00:12:41.219 --> 00:12:42.053 What? 00:12:44.347 --> 00:12:45.515 Over there. 00:12:46.849 --> 00:12:50.561 It seems like you won't be receiving the next batch of materials either. 00:13:07.453 --> 00:13:08.579 Obligor's counselor. 00:13:08.663 --> 00:13:10.665 You submitted additional material today. 00:13:11.332 --> 00:13:12.417 Yes, Your Honor. 00:13:13.042 --> 00:13:15.044 They are materials to substantiate that Ihwa ATM's application 00:13:15.128 --> 00:13:17.547 for model utility rights itself is false in action. 00:13:18.464 --> 00:13:20.133 Could you please look at the screen? 00:13:22.844 --> 00:13:23.886 EVIDENCE TO SUBSTANTIATE IHWA ATM'S CLAIMS AS FALSE 00:13:23.970 --> 00:13:25.388 In October 2020, 00:13:25.471 --> 00:13:30.309 Ihwa ATM applied for model utility rights for a security device for the cassettes 00:13:30.393 --> 00:13:32.103 in automatic teller machines. 00:13:32.186 --> 00:13:33.521 But this technology 00:13:34.188 --> 00:13:35.440 was plagiarized. 00:13:36.274 --> 00:13:38.401 In the United States, an exhibition called 00:13:38.484 --> 00:13:41.988 the Chicago International Engineering Fair is held every April. 00:13:42.071 --> 00:13:44.532 A lot of technology regarding ATMs are introduced there. 00:13:44.615 --> 00:13:47.577 So it's also well-known among ATM companies in Korea. 00:13:48.161 --> 00:13:49.078 Your Honor. 00:13:49.579 --> 00:13:52.123 Please compare the two designs shown on the screen. 00:13:52.790 --> 00:13:57.128 One was presented by an American company at the exhibition back in 2019. 00:13:57.211 --> 00:13:58.671 And the other is the one 00:13:58.755 --> 00:14:02.508 that Ihwa ATM is arguing to have developed on their own in 2020. 00:14:04.260 --> 00:14:08.139 The American company made this technology public as open-source technology. 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:12.727 They did it so that anyone can freely use and modify it without any restrictions. 00:14:12.810 --> 00:14:14.854 However, Ihwa ATM 00:14:14.937 --> 00:14:18.483 took this technology and pretended that they developed it themselves, 00:14:18.566 --> 00:14:22.070 and applied for its model utility rights so that other companies can't use it. 00:14:22.153 --> 00:14:25.907 Well, they did not take the American company's design as is. 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:30.244 The two designs look similar, but there is a clear difference. 00:14:30.328 --> 00:14:34.040 The security device on Ihwa ATM's cassette has a much more segmented sensor 00:14:34.123 --> 00:14:37.126 for measuring the weight of the bills than the American company's. 00:14:37.210 --> 00:14:39.545 They didn't copy the technology made public as is, 00:14:39.629 --> 00:14:41.881 but they developed it by adding new technology. 00:14:41.964 --> 00:14:44.425 So the grounds to apply for model utility rights may… 00:14:45.093 --> 00:14:46.636 not be enough. 00:14:49.347 --> 00:14:50.765 But we do have grounds. 00:14:52.058 --> 00:14:53.684 Gosh, Attorney. 00:14:53.768 --> 00:14:56.354 That level of segmentation is common. 00:14:56.854 --> 00:15:00.358 Unlike the United States, Korean bills vary in size, 00:15:00.441 --> 00:15:02.819 whether it's ten thousand won, or fifty thousand won. 00:15:02.902 --> 00:15:04.445 That's why segmentation is done. 00:15:05.071 --> 00:15:08.282 If they applied for the model utility rights because of that, 00:15:08.366 --> 00:15:10.326 they really have no conscience! 00:15:10.410 --> 00:15:13.079 The key technology was developed by the American company! 00:15:13.162 --> 00:15:14.747 What do you mean by no conscience? 00:15:19.794 --> 00:15:22.046 No one in our company, including myself, 00:15:22.130 --> 00:15:24.715 has ever attended the exhibition in Chicago. 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:27.969 This is the first time I'm finding out about something like that. 00:15:29.053 --> 00:15:33.391 Geumgang ATM first made their cassette security device in 2021. 00:15:33.474 --> 00:15:37.812 Meanwhile, Ihwa ATM already applied for model utility rights back in 2020. 00:15:37.895 --> 00:15:38.980 The obligor claims 00:15:39.063 --> 00:15:42.567 they used the open-source technology of the American company, but in truth, 00:15:42.650 --> 00:15:44.527 didn't they copy Ihwa's technology? 00:15:44.610 --> 00:15:48.406 Listen. If you're going to argue when it was produced, 00:15:48.489 --> 00:15:50.074 Leaders is the original. 00:15:50.616 --> 00:15:54.495 Leaders ATM made theirs as soon as the exhibition was over. 00:15:54.579 --> 00:15:56.247 All the way back in 2019! 00:15:57.081 --> 00:16:00.960 If you look at Leaders' product, it looks exactly like Ihwa's! 00:16:01.669 --> 00:16:02.587 Is that so? 00:16:03.129 --> 00:16:06.132 Can you substantiate what you just stated? 00:16:06.841 --> 00:16:08.009 Your Honor, 00:16:08.092 --> 00:16:10.678 we also attempted to find evidence, 00:16:10.761 --> 00:16:13.681 but unfortunately, Leaders ATM went out of business last year. 00:16:14.307 --> 00:16:17.518 They went out of business after their products were recalled due to a defect, 00:16:17.602 --> 00:16:19.645 so there aren't any Leaders products left in the market. 00:16:24.609 --> 00:16:28.488 It's difficult to make a ruling on whether this technology 00:16:29.155 --> 00:16:33.367 was solely developed by Ihwa ATM or if it's a slight variation of technology 00:16:34.035 --> 00:16:37.246 that was already released based on these materials alone. 00:16:37.330 --> 00:16:41.125 Since the KIPO's evaluation result for the model utility rights hasn't come out, 00:16:41.209 --> 00:16:42.418 it's even more difficult. 00:16:43.085 --> 00:16:45.463 Is there any other material to present? 00:16:45.546 --> 00:16:47.256 Your Honor. 00:16:47.340 --> 00:16:49.342 In order to substantiate the novelty 00:16:49.425 --> 00:16:51.135 of the model utility rights application by Ihwa ATM, 00:16:51.219 --> 00:16:53.846 we also need some time to put together the materials. 00:16:54.514 --> 00:16:55.389 Yes, I agree. 00:16:56.098 --> 00:16:58.309 Then we'll set the date for the next questioning. 00:16:58.392 --> 00:16:59.519 The court is adjourned. 00:17:00.102 --> 00:17:01.521 All rise. 00:17:19.956 --> 00:17:21.582 -Good work. -Of course. 00:17:21.666 --> 00:17:23.876 Is Geumgang ATM's claim true? 00:17:24.460 --> 00:17:25.294 What? 00:17:31.884 --> 00:17:33.678 I'm going to go answer this call. 00:17:33.761 --> 00:17:34.679 Okay. 00:17:37.431 --> 00:17:39.642 I have other plans, so I'm going to head out. 00:17:39.725 --> 00:17:41.686 -Wrap things up here. -All right. 00:17:42.311 --> 00:17:44.355 I'm headed out as well. I have a lot to do. 00:17:44.438 --> 00:17:45.439 What? 00:17:47.316 --> 00:17:50.194 Shouldn't we check the facts with the client? 00:17:50.278 --> 00:17:53.155 We can only check the facts if he tells us the truth. 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:58.536 So do you think Mr. Hwang Du-yong is lying? 00:17:58.619 --> 00:17:59.704 I'm not sure. 00:17:59.787 --> 00:18:01.914 It could be that Geumgang is committing fraud. 00:18:01.998 --> 00:18:03.916 Isn't everyone in business like that? 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:06.961 The direction of the defense depends on whether or not Ihwa ATM 00:18:07.044 --> 00:18:10.715 developed the technology themselves. We have to find out what the facts are. 00:18:11.632 --> 00:18:13.801 Then you go find out. 00:18:14.427 --> 00:18:16.095 I'll do my own thing. 00:18:16.178 --> 00:18:21.350 But don't interrogate the client about what the facts are. 00:18:21.434 --> 00:18:22.560 You'll get me fired too. 00:18:23.144 --> 00:18:23.978 What? 00:18:25.605 --> 00:18:27.815 You know that we're being employed by the client, right? 00:18:27.898 --> 00:18:28.899 The customer is king. 00:18:28.983 --> 00:18:32.903 Come to think of it, you never handle cases quietly. 00:18:32.987 --> 00:18:33.863 Right. 00:18:34.530 --> 00:18:36.324 That time you were taken off a case 00:18:36.407 --> 00:18:39.035 because you upset the Chairman of Sangjeong Pharmaceutical. 00:18:39.118 --> 00:18:41.120 It's not like you're Wild Card Woo Young-woo. 00:18:42.163 --> 00:18:43.581 Wild… 00:18:44.290 --> 00:18:45.916 "Wild Card Woo Young-woo"? 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:46.917 Yes. 00:18:47.460 --> 00:18:48.461 You… 00:18:48.544 --> 00:18:50.338 You Tactician Kwon Min-woo! 00:18:55.009 --> 00:18:57.970 What? 00:18:58.054 --> 00:18:59.180 "Tactician"? 00:19:06.020 --> 00:19:07.563 Have you no conscience? 00:19:08.147 --> 00:19:10.691 I'm saying we never went there! 00:19:10.775 --> 00:19:12.193 Stop with the lying! 00:19:12.985 --> 00:19:17.156 What ATM company in Korea has never gone to the Chicago exhibition? 00:19:17.239 --> 00:19:19.909 Every time new technology was presented in Chicago, everyone copied it! 00:19:19.992 --> 00:19:22.370 That may be true for Geumgang, but not Ihwa! 00:19:22.453 --> 00:19:24.955 The employees on our Development Team all came together 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:27.124 and toiled for years to make it. 00:19:27.208 --> 00:19:29.126 Is it not enough that you stole this technology? 00:19:29.210 --> 00:19:31.087 Why are you trying to swipe other people's efforts too? 00:19:31.170 --> 00:19:33.005 Effort? What effort? 00:19:33.089 --> 00:19:34.465 -An effort to come up with a dirty trick -Look. 00:19:34.548 --> 00:19:36.550 -to ruin other companies? -Can you tell who's lying? 00:19:36.634 --> 00:19:40.012 Why do you keep speaking disrespectfully to me, old man? 00:19:40.096 --> 00:19:42.723 -You can't speak like that to people! -What? 00:19:42.807 --> 00:19:44.308 "Old man"? 00:19:44.392 --> 00:19:47.687 That's the nicest thing I could call you. Should I say what I'm thinking? 00:19:47.770 --> 00:19:49.689 -Go ahead! -You can't, can you? 00:19:50.189 --> 00:19:51.691 So why bother asking? 00:19:51.774 --> 00:19:55.444 -You can't even tell who's lying. -Do you think you can keep insisting? 00:19:55.528 --> 00:19:59.907 Let me tell you this. We don't do anything that's this lousy like you. 00:19:59.990 --> 00:20:01.075 "Lousy"? 00:20:01.158 --> 00:20:03.786 We came all this way by working hard, 00:20:03.869 --> 00:20:06.664 and we're claiming the rights that should be rightfully ours. 00:20:06.747 --> 00:20:11.168 So Geumgang should stop trying to get a free ride on other people's hard work. 00:20:14.117 --> 00:20:18.121 If a person is lying, their body releases a chemical called catecholamine. 00:20:18.405 --> 00:20:20.198 And it causes the tissues inside the nose to swell up. 00:20:20.282 --> 00:20:22.742 Pinocchio was actually a fairy tale based on facts. 00:20:22.826 --> 00:20:25.036 And if a person lies, their blood pressure rises 00:20:25.120 --> 00:20:28.623 and it stimulates the nerve tissue at the tip of the nose, making it feel itchy. 00:20:30.333 --> 00:20:32.669 Hearing that makes my nose really itchy right now. 00:20:34.212 --> 00:20:36.381 Was this just now true or false? 00:20:39.009 --> 00:20:40.969 -What? -Hey. 00:20:41.052 --> 00:20:44.181 What kind of person's nose grows bigger and becomes itchy just because they lied? 00:20:44.264 --> 00:20:45.765 I've never seen anyone like that. 00:20:46.975 --> 00:20:50.395 Hey, you don't need any of this. Just remember Cham Cham Cham. 00:20:51.354 --> 00:20:54.274 Look straight into the other person's eyes. 00:20:54.983 --> 00:20:57.819 Looking straight into the other person's eyes 00:20:57.903 --> 00:21:00.864 is the most difficult thing in the world for someone with autism. 00:21:01.865 --> 00:21:03.366 That's right. 00:21:03.950 --> 00:21:07.787 Then look between their eyebrows. The area of truth. 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:16.087 Then you'll get a feeling. 00:21:16.713 --> 00:21:22.844 If what they're saying is true, you'll get the feeling of it being true. 00:21:22.928 --> 00:21:28.099 If they're lying, you'll get the feeling of it being a lie. 00:21:30.310 --> 00:21:31.519 Got it? 00:21:33.438 --> 00:21:35.148 -Yes. -Now! 00:21:35.232 --> 00:21:38.485 I'll guess first. Say anything that comes to mind. 00:21:42.239 --> 00:21:44.574 I don't want to lose against Attorney Kwon Min-woo. 00:21:44.658 --> 00:21:45.659 Kwon Min-woo? 00:21:46.326 --> 00:21:48.578 -The good-looking guy? -What? 00:21:49.287 --> 00:21:51.456 No, not Lee Jun-ho. Kwon Min-woo. 00:21:51.539 --> 00:21:54.751 Yes, not Lee Jun-ho. Kwon Min-woo. The good-looking guy. 00:21:57.504 --> 00:21:59.005 What about Min-woo? 00:21:59.089 --> 00:22:02.884 Well, I'm working on this case with him. 00:22:05.553 --> 00:22:06.888 Attorney Kwon… 00:22:06.972 --> 00:22:08.598 Attorney Kwon? 00:22:11.142 --> 00:22:12.102 is a jerk. 00:22:14.270 --> 00:22:15.105 That's true. 00:22:16.564 --> 00:22:18.817 You really want to beat Min-woo right now. 00:22:19.401 --> 00:22:20.568 Yes, I do. 00:22:21.486 --> 00:22:23.363 Okay, it's your turn now. 00:22:24.531 --> 00:22:26.616 Focus, in the spirit of Cham Cham Cham. 00:22:26.700 --> 00:22:28.910 "Focus, in the spirit of Cham Cham Cham." 00:22:28.994 --> 00:22:30.120 Yes, are you ready? 00:22:30.203 --> 00:22:31.204 Yes. 00:22:34.624 --> 00:22:35.750 Lee Jun-ho 00:22:36.543 --> 00:22:37.627 likes… 00:22:40.505 --> 00:22:41.339 Woo Young-woo. 00:22:45.051 --> 00:22:46.845 What is that? 00:22:46.928 --> 00:22:49.681 You're supposed to guess. I know the answer. 00:22:49.764 --> 00:22:51.558 How would you know that? 00:22:53.393 --> 00:22:56.354 Did you guys go to Nakjo Village or not? 00:22:57.564 --> 00:22:58.690 Nakjo Village? 00:22:59.607 --> 00:23:00.859 We did. 00:23:01.526 --> 00:23:02.694 Now. 00:23:02.777 --> 00:23:05.155 Lee Jun-ho likes 00:23:06.573 --> 00:23:07.407 Woo Young-woo. 00:23:08.992 --> 00:23:09.993 True… 00:23:11.619 --> 00:23:12.620 or false? 00:23:31.765 --> 00:23:33.725 -Give me one second. -Okay. 00:23:37.771 --> 00:23:39.022 Yes, Attorney Jang. 00:23:40.273 --> 00:23:42.901 No. I was just playing basketball. 00:23:45.570 --> 00:23:46.696 Attorney Woo? 00:23:47.447 --> 00:23:48.573 Yes. I know. 00:23:49.282 --> 00:23:51.117 We're on this case together. 00:23:51.201 --> 00:23:55.413 You know Attorney Woo has a disability, I mean, a handicap. 00:23:55.997 --> 00:23:59.250 Yes, so there's no choice but for me to shoulder certain things. 00:23:59.334 --> 00:24:00.794 No, it's no trouble. 00:24:01.544 --> 00:24:04.047 There are people who make time to go do volunteer work. 00:24:04.130 --> 00:24:07.133 This is the least I could do. Isn't it? 00:24:08.635 --> 00:24:10.512 Yes. All right. 00:24:10.595 --> 00:24:12.180 Let's get dinner together soon. 00:24:12.889 --> 00:24:14.599 Okay, goodbye. Salute. 00:24:21.189 --> 00:24:22.398 Hey, let's go. 00:24:22.482 --> 00:24:24.359 Hey, is it my turn? Your turn? 00:24:25.693 --> 00:24:27.278 Okay, you first? 00:24:27.362 --> 00:24:28.696 Okay. 00:24:32.784 --> 00:24:33.993 Jeez. 00:24:52.887 --> 00:24:54.222 What's wrong with you? 00:24:55.682 --> 00:24:57.809 Come on, let's play fair. 00:24:57.892 --> 00:24:59.686 What? Play fair? 00:25:01.938 --> 00:25:03.439 You play fair yourself. 00:25:05.692 --> 00:25:08.361 Gosh, what is he mad about? He was winning. 00:25:08.444 --> 00:25:09.445 It hurts. 00:25:10.155 --> 00:25:12.407 -Here's your food. -Thank you. 00:25:12.490 --> 00:25:13.992 -Of course, enjoy. -Excuse me, 00:25:14.075 --> 00:25:15.577 I still haven't gotten the cheese gimbap. 00:25:15.660 --> 00:25:17.954 Coming right up. Just a moment, please. 00:25:20.206 --> 00:25:21.291 Welcome. 00:25:23.251 --> 00:25:27.380 What kind of gimbap costs 3,500 and 4,000 won? 00:25:27.463 --> 00:25:28.923 It's so expensive! 00:25:29.007 --> 00:25:32.135 That's how the prices are these days. The cost of ingredients has gone up. 00:25:32.218 --> 00:25:33.553 That doesn't matter. 00:25:33.636 --> 00:25:35.680 Gimbap is still gimbap. 00:25:35.763 --> 00:25:37.140 Goodness, it's so expensive! 00:25:38.850 --> 00:25:41.269 -Hurry and clear this table for me. -Right. 00:25:41.352 --> 00:25:42.937 -Thank you for the food. -Goodbye. 00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:00.371 Did you just think that woman is a rude customer? 00:26:03.583 --> 00:26:05.460 -What? -What did she say? 00:26:06.586 --> 00:26:10.048 Excuse me. Did you just say I'm a rude customer? 00:26:11.132 --> 00:26:13.593 Answer me. Then I'll guess if it's true-- 00:26:13.676 --> 00:26:15.887 I said the gimbap is expensive because it is! 00:26:15.970 --> 00:26:17.013 How dare you call me a rude customer! 00:26:17.096 --> 00:26:18.640 You ruined my morning. 00:26:18.723 --> 00:26:21.017 Gosh, I'm sorry. 00:26:21.100 --> 00:26:23.019 Who is she? Is she your daughter? 00:26:23.102 --> 00:26:25.521 Did you just use your daughter to talk bad about a customer? 00:26:25.605 --> 00:26:27.357 Gosh. 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:29.275 She's not my daughter. 00:26:33.029 --> 00:26:35.156 You should leave now, Ma'am. 00:26:36.783 --> 00:26:37.951 Okay? 00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:40.161 What? 00:26:50.004 --> 00:26:51.130 Yes, sir. 00:26:53.258 --> 00:26:54.509 Goodbye. 00:27:01.224 --> 00:27:04.310 There used to be someone on my team who was a former detective. 00:27:04.394 --> 00:27:05.853 And he would always say, 00:27:06.437 --> 00:27:11.067 "The most honest part of the human body are the legs and then the hands." 00:27:11.150 --> 00:27:13.361 The legs and then 00:27:14.153 --> 00:27:15.655 -the hands? -Yes. 00:27:15.738 --> 00:27:17.323 Apparently, the further things are from the head, 00:27:17.407 --> 00:27:19.033 the more difficult it is to control completely. 00:27:19.117 --> 00:27:21.286 You can fake a facial expression, 00:27:21.369 --> 00:27:24.872 but it's hard to control shaky legs or sweaty palms. 00:27:25.748 --> 00:27:26.791 And what else? 00:27:27.292 --> 00:27:30.128 If someone is sitting down like they're ready to bolt out of the room 00:27:30.878 --> 00:27:35.133 or has their arms stuck to their body like this as if they're tied to the chair. 00:27:35.216 --> 00:27:39.637 Or if they keep stroking their thighs with their hands. 00:27:39.721 --> 00:27:42.515 He said those things could be signs of lying. 00:27:43.725 --> 00:27:46.561 Geu-ra-mi told me to look between the eyebrows. 00:27:46.644 --> 00:27:50.690 The former detective said the legs and hands are the most important. 00:27:50.773 --> 00:27:53.318 Ultimately, do I have to look at the entire body? 00:27:53.401 --> 00:27:54.902 This is quite difficult. 00:27:54.986 --> 00:27:57.030 Why don't you just have a casual conversation? 00:27:57.113 --> 00:27:58.531 Trust your instincts. 00:27:59.532 --> 00:28:01.284 My instincts *. 00:28:01.951 --> 00:28:06.289 People with autism are easily fooled and are not able to lie. 00:28:06.372 --> 00:28:09.751 If there was a competition to be fooled, 00:28:09.834 --> 00:28:11.377 a person with autism would win. 00:28:12.003 --> 00:28:12.962 Why is that? 00:28:14.047 --> 00:28:16.591 Is it because people with autism are innocent? 00:28:17.175 --> 00:28:18.176 Well… 00:28:19.344 --> 00:28:20.803 It's more like 00:28:21.429 --> 00:28:24.974 people live in a world that is made up of me and you 00:28:25.058 --> 00:28:29.437 but people with autism are more used to living in a world made up of only me. 00:28:30.396 --> 00:28:33.608 People can think differently from me 00:28:35.026 --> 00:28:37.862 or have different intentions and trick me. 00:28:37.945 --> 00:28:41.115 I understand this with my head, but I keep forgetting. 00:28:41.199 --> 00:28:45.536 I have to make a conscious effort at all times to not be fooled by lies. 00:28:53.211 --> 00:28:54.879 These stories help. 00:28:57.215 --> 00:28:58.508 They do? 00:28:58.591 --> 00:28:59.467 Yes. 00:29:00.218 --> 00:29:03.221 They help me understand you. 00:29:17.318 --> 00:29:19.070 We're here to meet Director Hwang Du-yong of the Sales Team. 00:29:19.153 --> 00:29:20.780 Yes. Go this way. 00:29:20.863 --> 00:29:22.407 -Thank you. -Sure. 00:29:33.710 --> 00:29:35.002 Attorney Woo. 00:29:35.086 --> 00:29:36.337 Should we practice? 00:29:36.879 --> 00:29:39.424 From now on, I'm Director Hwang Du-yong. 00:29:40.091 --> 00:29:43.344 If you ask me a question, I'll answer. 00:29:43.428 --> 00:29:45.596 Then you guess if it's true or not. 00:29:53.146 --> 00:29:56.107 Okay, I'll try. In the spirit of Cham Cham Cham. 00:29:56.691 --> 00:29:58.067 Cham Cham Cham? 00:30:05.241 --> 00:30:06.284 Lee Jun-ho 00:30:07.076 --> 00:30:08.536 likes Woo Young-woo. 00:30:09.162 --> 00:30:10.121 Is this true? 00:30:26.804 --> 00:30:27.847 That… 00:30:36.063 --> 00:30:38.608 is too hard of a question 00:30:39.233 --> 00:30:41.110 for Director Hwang Du-yong to answer. 00:30:42.445 --> 00:30:43.488 Right. 00:30:44.322 --> 00:30:45.364 Yes. 00:30:46.449 --> 00:30:48.034 It was a practice question. 00:30:58.628 --> 00:30:59.712 Excuse me. 00:31:01.214 --> 00:31:03.508 -Are you from Leaders? -Yes. 00:31:03.591 --> 00:31:04.967 Thank you for coming. 00:31:05.051 --> 00:31:07.053 I'm Kwon Min-woo, the person who called you. 00:31:07.136 --> 00:31:09.263 -Nice to meet you. -Please have a seat. 00:31:10.097 --> 00:31:12.099 How did you get my number? 00:31:12.183 --> 00:31:16.103 I asked around and was finally able to get a hold of your number. 00:31:16.187 --> 00:31:17.063 Right. 00:31:17.146 --> 00:31:20.107 It was very difficult to get a hold of any numbers. 00:31:21.108 --> 00:31:23.069 Could you tell me why you wanted to see me? 00:31:23.152 --> 00:31:25.822 Yes. You know what a cassette security device is, right? 00:31:27.532 --> 00:31:28.950 Yes. I do. 00:31:29.742 --> 00:31:31.661 That must be Ihwa's? 00:31:31.744 --> 00:31:35.456 Yes. And I'm aware that Leaders had made a similar cassette. 00:31:36.666 --> 00:31:40.962 More like the same. 00:31:41.045 --> 00:31:42.505 It's the same cassette. 00:31:42.588 --> 00:31:44.632 Was that made with the open-source technology 00:31:44.715 --> 00:31:46.217 from the 2019 Chicago exhibition? 00:31:46.300 --> 00:31:47.134 Yes. 00:31:49.178 --> 00:31:53.182 We really worked hard back then to be number one in the industry. 00:31:53.766 --> 00:31:55.935 The Chicago exhibition was held in April, 00:31:56.018 --> 00:31:59.564 and we were already trying to manufacture the product in October of that year. 00:31:59.647 --> 00:32:01.899 We shouldn't have overdone it like that. 00:32:01.983 --> 00:32:03.067 I regret it. 00:32:03.943 --> 00:32:04.819 Why is that? 00:32:04.902 --> 00:32:06.445 We pushed ourselves too hard. 00:32:06.529 --> 00:32:09.073 We stayed up every night to keep the factory running, 00:32:09.156 --> 00:32:11.534 but we made a mistake on an important part. 00:32:11.617 --> 00:32:14.370 There was an error with the bill recognition. 00:32:14.453 --> 00:32:15.830 Because of that, 00:32:15.913 --> 00:32:20.167 the new product that we worked so hard to prepare was all refunded, and eventually, 00:32:21.168 --> 00:32:22.461 the company went under. 00:32:23.671 --> 00:32:26.966 So are there no Leaders products left in the market at all? 00:32:27.049 --> 00:32:29.385 Well, they were all disposed of. 00:32:30.052 --> 00:32:32.889 Now, they don't exist in the world. 00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:36.934 For some reason, that makes me sad. 00:32:37.977 --> 00:32:39.770 We really worked hard to make it. 00:32:48.696 --> 00:32:50.448 Director Hwang's office is this way. 00:32:50.531 --> 00:32:52.033 Right. Thank you. 00:32:52.116 --> 00:32:53.868 Between the eyebrows, legs, and hands. 00:32:54.452 --> 00:32:56.203 Between the eyebrows, legs, and hands. 00:32:56.913 --> 00:32:58.664 Between the eyebrows, legs, and hands. 00:33:05.504 --> 00:33:07.548 -Your guests are here. -Right. 00:33:18.059 --> 00:33:19.393 Between the eyebrows, 00:33:20.227 --> 00:33:21.103 leg, 00:33:21.771 --> 00:33:22.605 and hand… 00:33:23.397 --> 00:33:24.398 They're injured. 00:33:24.482 --> 00:33:25.858 I was in a car accident. 00:33:26.859 --> 00:33:28.986 It seems like you're injured quite badly. 00:33:29.070 --> 00:33:30.529 Are you sure you should be working like this? 00:33:31.155 --> 00:33:32.281 Yes, I'm fine. 00:33:32.907 --> 00:33:36.369 Attorney Woo and an employee from Hanbada came all this way. 00:33:36.452 --> 00:33:38.329 How could I stay in bed at the hospital? 00:33:38.412 --> 00:33:41.374 Between the eyebrows, leg, and hand… 00:33:41.457 --> 00:33:44.001 Things must be hard for you because you got hurt. 00:33:44.085 --> 00:33:45.336 Yes, well. 00:33:46.087 --> 00:33:48.589 You said you had questions about product development? 00:33:49.173 --> 00:33:50.216 As you can see, I'm injured, 00:33:50.299 --> 00:33:52.259 and since I'm on the sales team, I don't really know much. 00:33:52.343 --> 00:33:54.470 Let me take you to meet the person in charge. 00:33:55.388 --> 00:33:56.639 Follow me. 00:34:01.602 --> 00:34:02.770 Manager Bae. 00:34:05.231 --> 00:34:08.275 This is Manager Bae Seong-cheol of our Research and Development lab. 00:34:08.859 --> 00:34:11.028 He was the driving force behind the new product. 00:34:11.112 --> 00:34:13.239 I wouldn't say the driving force. 00:34:13.948 --> 00:34:16.534 This is an attorney and an employee from Hanbada. 00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:18.160 Hello. 00:34:18.703 --> 00:34:21.163 They're here to hear about the development of the new product. 00:34:21.872 --> 00:34:24.083 -Please have a seat. -Okay. 00:34:38.597 --> 00:34:41.642 When did you come up with the cassette security device? 00:34:41.726 --> 00:34:42.685 What? 00:34:43.728 --> 00:34:44.770 When? 00:34:46.897 --> 00:34:48.399 End of 2019? 00:34:48.983 --> 00:34:50.484 Early 2020? Around then. 00:34:50.568 --> 00:34:53.446 -Please tell us exactly when it was. -End of 2019. 00:34:54.530 --> 00:34:55.948 It was the end of 2019. 00:34:58.117 --> 00:35:00.286 Was there an incident that made you come up with this? 00:35:02.329 --> 00:35:03.664 Incident? 00:35:04.957 --> 00:35:07.293 Obviously, we are aware 00:35:07.376 --> 00:35:10.087 Ihwa ATM didn't just take the American team's technology, 00:35:10.171 --> 00:35:11.630 but that you developed it yourselves. 00:35:11.714 --> 00:35:13.632 But there are others who are suspicious. 00:35:14.216 --> 00:35:18.429 If the occasion or its process is more specific, it has more credibility. 00:35:18.512 --> 00:35:20.347 Which is why the attorney must've asked. 00:35:20.431 --> 00:35:21.432 Right. 00:35:23.059 --> 00:35:24.560 An incident? 00:35:24.643 --> 00:35:25.770 Incident… 00:35:27.271 --> 00:35:28.314 Seong-cheol. 00:35:28.939 --> 00:35:31.442 What is it? Are you shy? 00:35:32.401 --> 00:35:35.905 Speak properly. Why do you keep mumbling? 00:35:35.988 --> 00:35:37.073 Incident? 00:35:38.407 --> 00:35:41.368 He's not usually like this. 00:35:41.452 --> 00:35:44.663 Do you know what he used to do before he started working here? 00:35:45.664 --> 00:35:46.832 Theater. 00:35:46.916 --> 00:35:48.292 He was an actor. 00:35:48.375 --> 00:35:50.211 -A theater actor? -Yes! 00:35:50.294 --> 00:35:52.421 That's amazing. 00:35:52.505 --> 00:35:55.174 It was just for a short time in the past. 00:35:55.257 --> 00:35:56.383 Just minor roles. 00:35:57.093 --> 00:35:58.344 Mr. Bae Seong-cheol. 00:35:59.220 --> 00:36:03.724 Did you attend the Chicago International Engineering Fair back in 2019? 00:36:17.613 --> 00:36:20.449 Gosh, you're acting like a prosecutor. 00:36:20.533 --> 00:36:23.244 Since you're asking like you're interrogating us, 00:36:23.327 --> 00:36:25.830 it feels like we've become the suspects. 00:36:25.913 --> 00:36:28.582 You're on our side, right? 00:36:34.630 --> 00:36:36.340 It's Attorney Kwon. 00:36:36.423 --> 00:36:38.551 I'll take it here since it's probably about the case. 00:36:38.634 --> 00:36:40.636 ATTORNEY KWON MIN-WOO 00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:42.221 Hi, salute. 00:36:42.304 --> 00:36:43.472 Communication secured! 00:36:43.556 --> 00:36:47.017 Hello, Director. I just met with the man whose number you gave me. 00:36:47.101 --> 00:36:49.019 The one who worked at Leaders ATM. 00:36:49.103 --> 00:36:50.396 You did? 00:36:50.479 --> 00:36:54.942 Yes, and he confirmed that their products were all refunded and disposed of. 00:36:55.025 --> 00:36:57.820 It can't be found in the market. 00:36:57.903 --> 00:37:00.197 So I don't think you have to worry about it. 00:37:00.281 --> 00:37:02.575 No matter how much Geumgang wants to nitpick, 00:37:02.658 --> 00:37:05.369 there's nothing they can bring as evidence. 00:37:05.452 --> 00:37:08.497 Gosh, Attorney Kwon. 00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:10.207 You're the best. 00:37:10.291 --> 00:37:12.334 I will contact you again later. 00:37:12.418 --> 00:37:15.671 -Sure. Goodbye. -Yes, Director. Goodbye. Salute. 00:37:15.754 --> 00:37:17.006 Salute. 00:37:18.549 --> 00:37:20.301 That's good news. 00:37:20.384 --> 00:37:22.261 Yes, it's good. 00:37:22.761 --> 00:37:25.055 So should we end this interrogation? 00:37:25.139 --> 00:37:28.350 Attorney Kwon said not to worry. 00:37:29.435 --> 00:37:32.646 It's good that Geumgang ATM won't have any evidence to submit. 00:37:32.730 --> 00:37:36.609 However, we still have to substantiate that our claim is the truth. 00:37:37.526 --> 00:37:40.613 If Mr. Bae gives a testimony on the development process himself, 00:37:41.197 --> 00:37:42.865 I'm sure it will have a positive effect. 00:37:42.948 --> 00:37:43.782 What? 00:37:44.575 --> 00:37:47.244 Me? You want me to be a witness? 00:37:47.328 --> 00:37:52.041 But was this idea approved by all the other attorneys as well? 00:37:53.626 --> 00:37:55.878 I should call Attorney Kwon, and… 00:37:55.961 --> 00:38:00.007 This case is an injunction hearing, so the jargon is a little different. 00:38:00.090 --> 00:38:01.926 Obligee, instead of the plaintiff. 00:38:02.009 --> 00:38:03.636 Obligor, instead of the defendant. 00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:05.804 Reference witness, instead of the witness. 00:38:05.888 --> 00:38:07.223 And the reference witness… 00:38:11.936 --> 00:38:13.771 doesn't swear in. 00:38:15.105 --> 00:38:17.149 In other words, even if you commit perjury, 00:38:17.233 --> 00:38:19.193 you won't be punished for it. 00:38:24.949 --> 00:38:28.661 It'll look like you're lying if you stroke your thighs. 00:38:29.286 --> 00:38:32.248 Studies have shown that the jury doesn't like it 00:38:32.331 --> 00:38:34.708 when the witness' hands are hidden under the stand. 00:38:34.792 --> 00:38:36.961 There isn't a jury in an injunction case, 00:38:37.044 --> 00:38:39.630 but the judge wouldn't trust a reference witness 00:38:39.713 --> 00:38:41.215 who hides their hands either. 00:38:47.680 --> 00:38:49.682 Most importantly, don't rub the tip of your nose. 00:38:50.683 --> 00:38:53.811 You'll look like Pinocchio whose catecholamine was released. 00:38:53.894 --> 00:38:55.938 Goodness, Attorney Woo, 00:38:56.563 --> 00:38:58.315 you're really coaching him. 00:38:58.983 --> 00:39:01.193 Manager Bae, write this down or something. 00:39:03.362 --> 00:39:05.239 Since you were a theater actor, 00:39:07.116 --> 00:39:08.492 I'll expect… 00:39:09.785 --> 00:39:10.953 you to be good at this. 00:39:11.036 --> 00:39:11.996 Right. 00:39:13.163 --> 00:39:13.998 Yes. 00:39:22.751 --> 00:39:24.294 Reference witness, step forward. 00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:47.067 Obligee's counselor, you may ask questions first. 00:39:59.329 --> 00:40:00.456 Sir. 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:02.499 Please introduce yourself. 00:40:03.917 --> 00:40:06.003 My name is Bae Seong-cheol. 00:40:06.086 --> 00:40:08.839 I'm the manager at Ihwa ATM's Research and Development Team. 00:40:15.220 --> 00:40:17.723 The key technology of the 2022 model 00:40:17.806 --> 00:40:19.933 of automatic teller machines that Ihwa ATM made 00:40:20.017 --> 00:40:22.311 is the cassette with the security device. 00:40:22.394 --> 00:40:23.270 Correct? 00:40:23.353 --> 00:40:24.396 Yes. 00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:28.484 I developed it with my own two hands. 00:40:28.567 --> 00:40:30.527 When did you first develop it? 00:40:30.611 --> 00:40:32.654 It was the winter of 2019. 00:40:32.738 --> 00:40:35.741 It was an extremely cold day in November. 00:40:36.533 --> 00:40:40.037 Was there a particular incident that motivated you to develop it? 00:40:40.120 --> 00:40:44.208 That winter, there were many cases of ATMs being rigged for embezzlement. 00:40:44.291 --> 00:40:46.293 So then, we got orders from the higher-ups. 00:40:46.376 --> 00:40:48.086 "Create a new cassette." 00:40:48.754 --> 00:40:54.301 "Create an honest cassette on which lies and tricks won't work." 00:40:55.010 --> 00:40:57.387 Could you explain the development process? 00:41:04.853 --> 00:41:08.524 The blood and tears of the people in Ihwa's Research and Development Team. 00:41:11.527 --> 00:41:13.779 Is there an explanation more accurate than this? 00:41:16.114 --> 00:41:17.533 Until the day we applied for model utility rights 00:41:17.616 --> 00:41:20.661 for the cassette security device in October of 2020, 00:41:20.744 --> 00:41:24.039 we continued challenging ourselves, tirelessly. 00:41:26.041 --> 00:41:27.835 Are you putting on some kind of play? 00:41:27.918 --> 00:41:29.837 We obviously know that you took someone else's technology. 00:41:31.380 --> 00:41:34.424 Obligor, you will have enough opportunity to speak. 00:41:34.508 --> 00:41:35.926 Do not interrupt during the questioning. 00:41:37.469 --> 00:41:40.639 I'm going to be straightforward and ask you. 00:41:40.722 --> 00:41:42.808 Did you attend the Chicago International Engineering Fair 00:41:42.891 --> 00:41:45.477 that was held in the United States in 2019? 00:41:53.610 --> 00:41:54.862 Sir? 00:42:27.811 --> 00:42:28.812 Your Honor. 00:42:29.438 --> 00:42:30.397 Sir? 00:42:37.863 --> 00:42:39.239 Ihwa ATM 00:42:40.365 --> 00:42:42.242 is a very small company. 00:42:44.286 --> 00:42:47.164 There are only five people in the Research and Development Team. 00:42:47.247 --> 00:42:48.832 Those five people 00:42:48.916 --> 00:42:53.211 put their heads and hearts together and researched and developed for days. 00:42:53.795 --> 00:42:56.340 It's such a waste of our efforts 00:42:57.257 --> 00:43:00.427 for us to be framed for taking someone else's technology. 00:43:01.261 --> 00:43:03.180 People all think similarly, 00:43:03.263 --> 00:43:05.641 so similar products may be released around similar times. 00:43:05.724 --> 00:43:06.558 However, 00:43:09.811 --> 00:43:12.189 to lie about copying another's technology? 00:43:13.649 --> 00:43:17.527 We're not the kind of company to lie about having developed something ourselves. 00:43:19.237 --> 00:43:21.740 Neither Director Hwang, who is sitting over there, nor I 00:43:22.574 --> 00:43:24.868 would ever do such a thing. 00:43:32.793 --> 00:43:34.002 Your Honor. 00:43:34.086 --> 00:43:38.548 It still takes days and nights of working to take and use someone else's technology. 00:43:38.632 --> 00:43:40.133 It's always like that! 00:43:40.217 --> 00:43:41.843 As I said before, 00:43:41.927 --> 00:43:44.262 we're in the middle of questioning the reference witness, so… 00:43:44.346 --> 00:43:46.890 This is a show, not a questioning! 00:43:48.392 --> 00:43:51.353 I'm going through every junk shop in the country 00:43:51.436 --> 00:43:54.272 to find evidence that will reveal their outrageous lie. 00:43:54.982 --> 00:43:58.318 If only I can find one of the cassettes made by Leaders… 00:43:58.402 --> 00:44:00.487 So did you find it? 00:44:05.575 --> 00:44:07.119 Did you find the evidence? 00:44:09.037 --> 00:44:12.958 -I'm looking all over the country-- -Then talk after you find it. 00:44:13.041 --> 00:44:14.251 For now, sit down. 00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:16.086 Sit down. 00:44:19.881 --> 00:44:21.133 Obligee's counselor. 00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:23.260 Do you have any more questions? 00:44:28.890 --> 00:44:30.267 No. 00:44:30.350 --> 00:44:31.268 That is all. 00:44:38.191 --> 00:44:40.902 Obligor's counselor, you may now begin cross-examination. 00:44:43.947 --> 00:44:45.782 Nice work. It's looking good for us. 00:44:46.491 --> 00:44:47.325 Thank you. 00:44:47.409 --> 00:44:50.203 I prepared a lot for the reference witness's interrogation, 00:44:50.287 --> 00:44:51.830 so I'm glad it worked. 00:44:51.913 --> 00:44:54.458 Obligor's counselor, begin your questioning. 00:44:55.500 --> 00:44:56.501 Yes, Your Honor. 00:45:06.928 --> 00:45:09.639 Did you hear that an injunction was decided? 00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:12.309 Oh, yes. 00:45:12.392 --> 00:45:15.645 The people at Geumgang must not have a clue as to how to deal with this 00:45:15.729 --> 00:45:18.607 since production and sales have all been banned. 00:45:19.107 --> 00:45:20.150 Anyway, this is all 00:45:20.901 --> 00:45:23.028 thanks to the attorneys at Hanbada. 00:45:24.112 --> 00:45:25.155 Thank you! 00:45:26.782 --> 00:45:29.201 This is a gift from Ihwa ATM. Take a look. 00:45:33.830 --> 00:45:35.665 A painting that brings in wealth! 00:45:35.749 --> 00:45:37.584 In other words, a sunflower. 00:45:37.667 --> 00:45:41.546 Make more and more money, the same way a sunflower grows taller and taller! 00:45:43.173 --> 00:45:44.925 Yes, thank you. 00:45:46.551 --> 00:45:48.053 Where should we hang this up? 00:45:48.762 --> 00:45:50.472 Right here is perfect. 00:45:51.264 --> 00:45:53.141 You don't need this here. You have it memorized, right? 00:45:53.225 --> 00:45:54.684 ATTORNEY'S CODE OF ETHICS 00:45:54.768 --> 00:45:55.769 All right. 00:45:57.896 --> 00:45:58.897 Here. 00:46:04.736 --> 00:46:05.737 That's nice! 00:46:06.321 --> 00:46:07.155 Right? 00:46:07.906 --> 00:46:10.617 Take in all this energy 00:46:11.284 --> 00:46:12.410 and get rich! 00:46:13.578 --> 00:46:14.621 Okay. 00:46:17.874 --> 00:46:19.209 I'll get going then. 00:46:23.338 --> 00:46:25.006 I've brought your mail. 00:46:25.090 --> 00:46:26.007 Okay. 00:46:31.930 --> 00:46:35.183 FROM CEO OF GEUMGANG ATM OH JIN-JONG 00:47:00.125 --> 00:47:01.418 ATTORNEY JUNG MYEONG-SEOK 00:47:12.345 --> 00:47:13.179 Come in. 00:47:17.642 --> 00:47:20.145 Attorney Kwon, did you get the letter? 00:47:21.187 --> 00:47:22.230 What letter? 00:47:24.232 --> 00:47:25.525 FROM CEO OF GEUMGANG ATM OH JIN-JONG 00:47:30.363 --> 00:47:32.115 "Please read this, Attorney Woo." 00:47:32.949 --> 00:47:36.411 This is a misunderstanding. You don't need to be concerned about it. Once we… 00:47:36.494 --> 00:47:37.913 Please read this, Attorney Woo. 00:47:37.996 --> 00:47:39.331 No, that will never happen. 00:47:39.414 --> 00:47:41.374 As I repeatedly said before, 00:47:41.458 --> 00:47:43.793 that technology was developed by an American company 00:47:43.877 --> 00:47:45.795 and was made public at the exhibition. 00:47:46.630 --> 00:47:50.133 Both Geumgang and Ihwa took it to make products. 00:47:52.510 --> 00:47:53.553 Sir. 00:47:53.637 --> 00:47:56.723 News of the sales ban injunction spread too quickly. 00:47:56.806 --> 00:48:00.060 So it seems like some of the investors are about to barge in here. 00:48:00.143 --> 00:48:02.646 Why don't you lay low for a while? 00:48:04.022 --> 00:48:06.441 Then Ihwa ATM submitted for model utility rights 00:48:06.524 --> 00:48:09.819 because they wanted to monopolize it. Why are you disregarding the truth? 00:48:11.029 --> 00:48:14.491 If the ban on production and sales is prolonged with this injunction, 00:48:14.574 --> 00:48:18.161 Geumgang, which is smaller than Ihwa, will be out of business soon. 00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:22.040 Sir! 00:48:22.123 --> 00:48:23.833 Sir, you should go now. 00:48:23.917 --> 00:48:26.002 -Open the door! -Get out here right now! 00:48:26.086 --> 00:48:27.504 Don't hide! Get out here! 00:48:29.547 --> 00:48:30.548 Sir. 00:48:30.632 --> 00:48:31.758 -Open up! -Come out! 00:48:31.841 --> 00:48:33.760 -Come out of there! -Let's talk! 00:48:33.843 --> 00:48:35.345 -Come out! -Get out here! 00:48:35.428 --> 00:48:36.554 Sir! 00:48:36.638 --> 00:48:40.934 Do you want to be a competent attorney who only wins in court? 00:48:41.643 --> 00:48:45.480 Or do you want to be an honorable attorney who reveals the truth? 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:48.274 Right. 00:48:50.068 --> 00:48:51.736 Why didn't he send one to me? 00:48:52.737 --> 00:48:54.030 Did I have no presence? 00:48:54.739 --> 00:48:57.575 If this letter is true, 00:48:58.159 --> 00:48:59.911 shouldn't we do something about it? 00:48:59.995 --> 00:49:01.121 Like what? 00:49:02.747 --> 00:49:04.499 We pleaded the client's position well 00:49:04.582 --> 00:49:07.460 and got them the injunction they wanted. What more should we do? 00:49:07.544 --> 00:49:09.629 If this letter is true-- 00:49:09.713 --> 00:49:11.214 Attorney Woo. 00:49:11.297 --> 00:49:14.217 When are you going to stop talking about whether something is true or false? 00:49:14.300 --> 00:49:17.637 Didn't you visit Ihwa's headquarters yourself to figure that out? 00:49:17.721 --> 00:49:21.641 What if we show this letter to the people at Ihwa ATM and persuade them 00:49:21.725 --> 00:49:24.227 to apply for revocation of the injunction? 00:49:24.310 --> 00:49:25.353 What? 00:49:26.312 --> 00:49:27.564 For what reason? 00:49:28.273 --> 00:49:30.734 Because the contents of this letter might be true. 00:49:30.817 --> 00:49:32.360 Do you have any evidence that it is? 00:49:34.988 --> 00:49:36.072 I mean, 00:49:37.699 --> 00:49:41.536 if you can't trust the client, you shouldn't have taken on the case. 00:49:41.619 --> 00:49:45.665 Are you saying we should turn things around because of this letter? 00:49:45.749 --> 00:49:47.125 Does this make sense to you? 00:49:48.084 --> 00:49:50.336 You really are Wild Card Woo Young-woo. 00:49:50.420 --> 00:49:52.213 Why do you always think of ways to mess things up? 00:49:53.423 --> 00:49:55.842 Don't call me Wild Card Woo Young-woo! 00:49:55.925 --> 00:49:58.303 Do you like it if I call you Tactician Kwon Min-woo? 00:49:59.471 --> 00:50:01.014 I think the tactician 00:50:01.931 --> 00:50:03.266 is you, Attorney Woo. 00:50:04.017 --> 00:50:04.851 What? 00:50:04.934 --> 00:50:06.853 You coached the reference witness for the questioning, right? 00:50:08.980 --> 00:50:11.316 I thought I was watching an American TV show. 00:50:11.858 --> 00:50:14.069 He came really prepared. 00:50:14.569 --> 00:50:17.238 The questions, the responses, 00:50:17.322 --> 00:50:19.866 and it seemed like there was also a script. 00:50:21.618 --> 00:50:24.162 Be honest, Attorney Woo. 00:50:24.245 --> 00:50:26.623 Did you think the reference witness was speaking the truth? 00:50:29.042 --> 00:50:30.043 You didn't, right? 00:50:30.752 --> 00:50:32.337 Didn't you help him sound like he was speaking the truth 00:50:32.420 --> 00:50:34.172 because you thought he wasn't? 00:50:34.255 --> 00:50:36.549 That's exactly what using tactics is. 00:50:37.509 --> 00:50:39.969 Whether you thought it was true or not, 00:50:40.678 --> 00:50:42.764 if you decided to trust him, stick to it. 00:50:42.847 --> 00:50:46.434 You owe that to the client 00:50:46.976 --> 00:50:48.228 as an attorney. 00:51:05.578 --> 00:51:06.996 Can I have the paperwork I asked for earlier? 00:51:07.080 --> 00:51:08.498 -Okay. -Thank you. 00:51:08.581 --> 00:51:09.707 Hey, Attorney Woo. 00:51:11.376 --> 00:51:13.962 I saw that you called me earlier. What was it about? 00:51:14.838 --> 00:51:15.672 Right. 00:51:20.385 --> 00:51:23.346 I had something I wanted to ask you earlier. 00:51:24.222 --> 00:51:25.306 You did? 00:51:27.142 --> 00:51:28.601 Now, I don't. 00:51:29.269 --> 00:51:31.062 What? All right then. 00:52:37.337 --> 00:52:40.632 This is unexpected. Woo Young-woo eating in the cafeteria? 00:52:40.715 --> 00:52:43.134 Today's dinner menu is gimbap. 00:52:44.886 --> 00:52:47.180 I should tell you whenever they serving gimbap from now on then. 00:52:51.309 --> 00:52:53.478 It seemed like you told Attorney Kwon. 00:52:54.145 --> 00:52:56.397 -What? -Tactician Kwon Min-woo. 00:52:57.523 --> 00:52:58.358 Right. 00:52:58.441 --> 00:53:01.236 That's because he kept calling me Wild Card Woo Young-woo. 00:53:01.319 --> 00:53:04.739 You're on a nickname basis now after working on one case together? 00:53:04.822 --> 00:53:07.242 Wild Card Woo Young-woo is not my nickname. 00:53:08.034 --> 00:53:09.535 Make me one. 00:53:12.705 --> 00:53:14.666 How about "Babyface Choi Su-yeon"? 00:53:16.459 --> 00:53:17.585 Or… 00:53:18.711 --> 00:53:20.338 "Most Beautiful Choi Su-yeon"? 00:53:20.421 --> 00:53:21.422 No. 00:53:22.674 --> 00:53:24.300 -No? -No. 00:53:24.384 --> 00:53:25.635 Those aren't you. 00:53:25.718 --> 00:53:26.803 Then what am I? 00:53:28.721 --> 00:53:29.681 You're… 00:53:30.390 --> 00:53:31.432 I'm? 00:53:32.809 --> 00:53:34.560 like the spring sunshine. 00:53:36.521 --> 00:53:37.355 What? 00:53:37.438 --> 00:53:40.441 I've thought so ever since we were in law school. 00:53:40.525 --> 00:53:43.569 You told me where the lecture hall was, when class was canceled, 00:53:43.653 --> 00:53:45.280 and when the test material changed. 00:53:45.363 --> 00:53:49.534 You tried to stop the other students from making fun of me or bullying me. 00:53:50.618 --> 00:53:52.912 Even now, you open my water bottles for me 00:53:52.996 --> 00:53:56.708 and tell me that you'll let me know when they serve gimbap again. 00:53:56.791 --> 00:54:02.755 You're a bright, warm, kind, and sweet person. 00:54:04.132 --> 00:54:06.467 You're Spring Sunshine Su-yeon. 00:54:23.443 --> 00:54:24.444 Attorney Woo. 00:54:26.029 --> 00:54:28.781 You know how Geumgang ATM filed an appeal for the injunction? 00:54:29.532 --> 00:54:30.366 Yes. 00:54:30.450 --> 00:54:32.618 And now they're saying that there should be an on-site verification. 00:54:33.328 --> 00:54:35.872 The CEO of Geumgang was going on about going through junk shops 00:54:35.955 --> 00:54:37.957 all over the country to find evidence. 00:54:38.666 --> 00:54:40.168 It seems as though he finally found something. 00:54:41.169 --> 00:54:42.628 On-site verification? 00:54:42.712 --> 00:54:45.882 Yes. They want us at a bank in Mangu-dong, Jungnang-gu. 00:54:46.674 --> 00:54:47.633 Enjoy your meal. 00:54:48.384 --> 00:54:49.344 Thanks. 00:54:59.145 --> 00:55:04.817 We will now start the on-site verification of Case Number 2022, Injunction Case 1547, 00:55:04.901 --> 00:55:08.946 based on the procedures of the appeal filed for the preliminary injunction 00:55:09.030 --> 00:55:10.740 against infringement of intellectual property rights. 00:55:12.200 --> 00:55:13.242 Obligor's counselor. 00:55:13.785 --> 00:55:15.620 You applied for on-site verification. 00:55:15.703 --> 00:55:18.081 Could you show us the object of verification? 00:55:18.164 --> 00:55:19.207 Yes, Your Honor. 00:55:20.375 --> 00:55:23.503 This is the automatic teller machine made by Leaders ATM. 00:55:23.586 --> 00:55:25.588 Most of the same models have been disposed of, 00:55:25.671 --> 00:55:28.758 but this one machine was left here in the Mangu-dong branch. 00:55:28.841 --> 00:55:31.594 Could you open it and show us the cassette? 00:55:40.269 --> 00:55:41.396 This is the cassette. 00:55:46.275 --> 00:55:49.612 This is the cassette that Ihwa ATM claims to have developed on their own. 00:55:50.196 --> 00:55:52.198 Please compare the two cassettes. 00:55:52.782 --> 00:55:55.451 The difference between these cassettes and typical cassettes 00:55:55.535 --> 00:55:57.412 is the number plate on the front 00:55:57.495 --> 00:56:00.581 and the weight measuring sensor for the bills at the bottom on the inside. 00:56:06.671 --> 00:56:09.882 The two cassettes are not only similar on the outside. 00:56:12.260 --> 00:56:14.262 Please look at the cassette designs of the two companies. 00:56:14.971 --> 00:56:17.014 The interior layout is also similar. 00:56:19.725 --> 00:56:24.272 Ihwa ATM applied for model utility rights in October of 2020. 00:56:24.355 --> 00:56:27.358 So when did Leaders ATM make this product? 00:56:28.276 --> 00:56:31.612 Could you please check the delivery date that is marked on the inside? 00:56:35.116 --> 00:56:40.663 The delivery date is October 23rd, 2019. 00:56:41.706 --> 00:56:42.874 Yes. 00:56:42.957 --> 00:56:47.003 This product was manufactured a year before Ihwa ATM. 00:56:47.587 --> 00:56:51.132 Novelty is the most important factor for the application of model utility rights. 00:56:51.215 --> 00:56:53.384 It can't be the same as prior technology. 00:56:54.051 --> 00:56:57.722 This is a matter stated in Article 29 of the Patent Act. 00:56:58.306 --> 00:56:59.307 Therefore, Ihwa ATM 00:56:59.390 --> 00:57:02.393 is not qualified to acquire model utility rights for this technology. 00:57:02.477 --> 00:57:04.979 Thus, we request the revocation of the injunction prohibiting 00:57:05.062 --> 00:57:07.398 production and sales that have been issued to Geumgang ATM. 00:57:26.209 --> 00:57:27.418 -Thank you. -Thank you. 00:57:29.337 --> 00:57:30.296 Take care. 00:57:35.635 --> 00:57:36.969 Good work. 00:57:45.561 --> 00:57:48.481 The injunction is likely to be revoked. 00:57:49.148 --> 00:57:50.817 It seems so. 00:57:50.900 --> 00:57:53.027 And the possibility of the model utility rights 00:57:53.110 --> 00:57:55.988 not passing the evaluation seems high as well. 00:57:57.281 --> 00:57:58.407 I guess so. 00:58:01.202 --> 00:58:02.370 Are you all right? 00:58:02.453 --> 00:58:03.621 Yes, I'm fine. 00:58:03.704 --> 00:58:05.206 While the injunction was issued, 00:58:05.289 --> 00:58:07.792 I completed most of the supply contracts with the banks. 00:58:07.875 --> 00:58:09.919 Even if it's revoked, it won't affect us much. 00:58:10.753 --> 00:58:11.671 I see. 00:58:12.672 --> 00:58:14.799 Was this your plan the whole time? 00:58:17.051 --> 00:58:19.262 What you said about developing the technology on your own… 00:58:19.345 --> 00:58:21.848 I'm glad you're fine. 00:58:21.931 --> 00:58:23.766 We're just a little worried because technically, 00:58:23.850 --> 00:58:25.226 Geumgang won the trial. 00:58:25.309 --> 00:58:28.396 Winning this battle doesn't matter. They lost the war. 00:58:29.397 --> 00:58:33.442 The CEO of Geumgang probably already knows that we won all the contracts. 00:58:33.526 --> 00:58:35.945 He's just mad, so he's dragging it out until the end. 00:58:36.737 --> 00:58:39.407 This one should hurt quite a bit. 00:58:40.116 --> 00:58:43.786 Gosh, I wonder if Geumgang will be following down the path Leaders took? 00:58:44.495 --> 00:58:49.000 Anyway, this is all thanks to you. You all did such an amazing job. 00:58:49.083 --> 00:58:51.043 We really appreciate it. 00:58:54.755 --> 00:58:55.965 I'll get going then. 00:59:52.355 --> 00:59:53.397 Attorney Woo? 00:59:55.942 --> 00:59:57.276 So, ultimately, 00:59:58.486 --> 01:00:01.822 I helped Ihwa ATM take advantage of the law. 01:00:02.782 --> 01:00:04.116 Excuse me? 01:00:04.200 --> 01:00:07.078 Applying for model utility rights, and filing for the injunction 01:00:07.620 --> 01:00:10.665 were all lies to monopolize the contracts. 01:00:11.248 --> 01:00:14.293 And instead of stopping them, I helped. 01:00:18.798 --> 01:00:20.174 And what's worse is… 01:00:23.636 --> 01:00:26.305 I think I already knew that. 01:00:34.981 --> 01:00:37.775 When we visited Ihwa ATM, 01:00:37.858 --> 01:00:42.488 did you think Director Hwang and Manager Bae were speaking the truth? 01:00:44.323 --> 01:00:45.366 Well… 01:00:45.950 --> 01:00:47.994 -I… -There's no way you did. 01:00:49.161 --> 01:00:52.373 Try to remember what Mr. Bae was like at the time. 01:00:53.249 --> 01:00:56.252 Sitting down with his legs looking like they're ready to bolt out of the room, 01:00:56.335 --> 01:00:58.963 his arms stuck to his body as if he was tied to the chair, 01:00:59.672 --> 01:01:02.299 repeatedly stroking his thighs with his hands, 01:01:02.383 --> 01:01:04.343 and even rubbing the tip of his nose. 01:01:05.720 --> 01:01:07.847 He was a lie in and of itself. 01:01:10.516 --> 01:01:11.642 Right. 01:01:12.393 --> 01:01:13.644 In the end, 01:01:15.187 --> 01:01:18.607 I fooled myself, pretending not to know the truth 01:01:20.526 --> 01:01:22.403 when I did. 01:01:24.447 --> 01:01:26.032 Because I wanted to win. 01:01:29.410 --> 01:01:30.411 Right. 01:01:37.293 --> 01:01:38.753 I'm ashamed. 01:02:14.663 --> 01:02:21.545 ATTORNEY WOO YOUNG-WOO 01:03:11.011 --> 01:03:12.721 PLEASE READ THIS, ATTORNEY WOO 01:03:12.805 --> 01:03:17.226 WHY ARE YOU DISREGARDING THE TRUTH? 01:03:21.063 --> 01:03:23.858 DO YOU WANT TO BE A COMPETENT ATTORNEY WHO ONLY WINS IN COURT? 01:03:23.941 --> 01:03:27.069 OR DO YOU WANT TO BE AN HONORABLE ATTORNEY WHO REVEALS THE TRUTH? 01:03:38.873 --> 01:03:40.958 TAESAN LAW FIRM ATTORNEY TAE SU-MI 01:03:43.335 --> 01:03:44.545 Come in. 01:03:46.083 --> 01:03:47.084 Right. 01:03:55.675 --> 01:03:58.011 Candidate Tae Su-mi, it's nice to finally meet you. 01:03:58.095 --> 01:04:00.389 I'm Administrator Kim Yeong-il 01:04:00.472 --> 01:04:01.723 from the Office of the Secretary at the Blue House. 01:04:02.391 --> 01:04:03.350 I'm Tae Su-mi. 01:04:03.934 --> 01:04:05.185 Have a seat. 01:04:07.145 --> 01:04:10.440 Congratulations on becoming a candidate for the Minister of Justice. 01:04:11.274 --> 01:04:13.110 I'm just a candidate. 01:04:13.652 --> 01:04:16.405 I'm worried I have such a high mountain climb. 01:04:17.114 --> 01:04:20.158 You're here today to retrieve the paperwork, right? 01:04:23.286 --> 01:04:25.956 PRELIMINARY QUESTIONNAIRE FOR HIGH-RANKING PUBLIC OFFICIAL CANDIDATES 01:04:26.456 --> 01:04:29.334 I was writing the self-verification statement, 01:04:29.418 --> 01:04:30.502 and I was nervous. 01:04:32.337 --> 01:04:35.340 I take pride in having lived an incomparably decent life, 01:04:36.174 --> 01:04:38.677 but the idea of someone verifying it made me nervous. 01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:41.763 We've never had the former CEO of the country's greatest law firm 01:04:41.847 --> 01:04:44.266 as a candidate for Minister of Justice before. 01:04:45.267 --> 01:04:46.852 Seeing as how this is an unconventional selection, 01:04:46.935 --> 01:04:49.020 we are planning on doing an extra thorough verification 01:04:49.104 --> 01:04:50.689 before writing up the report. 01:04:51.398 --> 01:04:52.315 In the end, 01:04:52.983 --> 01:04:55.485 the goal is to safely make it through the confirmation hearing. 01:04:56.111 --> 01:04:58.238 Of course. I look forward to working with you. 01:05:02.451 --> 01:05:05.162 There's one thing I have to ask you. 01:05:05.912 --> 01:05:06.913 Go ahead. 01:05:06.997 --> 01:05:10.250 We can't ignore public opinion during the candidate verification. 01:05:10.333 --> 01:05:11.668 Public opinion? 01:05:12.294 --> 01:05:14.004 Are you talking about my reputation? 01:05:14.087 --> 01:05:14.963 Yes. 01:05:16.214 --> 01:05:18.216 It seems as though there's a rumor 01:05:18.967 --> 01:05:21.344 among your university colleagues. 01:05:22.429 --> 01:05:23.972 Is that so? What is it? 01:05:24.055 --> 01:05:26.016 That you, Candidate Tae, 01:05:27.767 --> 01:05:29.895 have a child out of wedlock. 01:05:29.978 --> 01:05:31.104 Are you aware of this? 01:05:36.234 --> 01:05:38.236 I thought it was going to be something else. 01:05:39.279 --> 01:05:41.823 Isn't that such petty gossip to worry about? 01:05:43.450 --> 01:05:45.035 It is petty gossip. 01:05:45.952 --> 01:05:47.329 But you know as much as I do 01:05:47.954 --> 01:05:51.291 that it's always the little things that ruin public officials. 01:05:55.045 --> 01:05:56.713 It really is preposterous. 01:05:57.506 --> 01:05:59.716 Why does that kind of rumor keep circulating? 01:06:00.383 --> 01:06:01.384 Perhaps, 01:06:02.260 --> 01:06:05.680 there's someone who resembles me out there somewhere. 01:06:07.349 --> 01:06:09.976 So I can trust that you don't have 01:06:11.186 --> 01:06:12.687 any illegitimate children? 01:06:13.271 --> 01:06:14.314 Of course. 01:06:32.749 --> 01:06:36.795 Cool down Attorney Choi so that she doesn't treat this case emotionally. 01:06:39.506 --> 01:06:42.175 Did you run away so that you could raise her until she reached an age 01:06:42.259 --> 01:06:44.219 -where she could remember her mother? -Yes. 01:06:45.929 --> 01:06:49.391 -Ms. Gye Hyang-sim must get probation! -That was passionate. 01:06:49.474 --> 01:06:52.185 Are you going to trial because you don't want to yield? 01:06:52.269 --> 01:06:53.395 They're such a good-looking match. 01:06:53.478 --> 01:06:55.939 Don't you think Jun-ho likes Attorney Choi? 01:06:56.022 --> 01:06:59.109 If I were a whale, would my mom not have abandoned me?