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Right... a boat scene.
Cue the music!

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Oh, come on, we can do better
than that.

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- -No...

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- -No...

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No...

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I don't know what that is.

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Hello, viewers,
you join me in the Pacific.

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Not the HBO series,
the actual ocean.

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We're heading over there
to Japan's third largest city:

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Osaka.

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My high-brow sociopolitical
essay on Japan

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has so far seen me travel
1,000 miles

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- to fall off a sled...

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Last time, in Kyoto,

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I got lost in translation...

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Bim, guess what?

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You just said that,
you digital!

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Lost my rag at Mount Fuji...

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I'm having an artistic tantrum.
I've had enough of this!

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- -And lost all
feeling in my buttocks

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for the following three days.

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This time... this.

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Stupid foreigner!

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I am Ultraman!

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Whoa! Whoa!

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My new Japanese mates
tell me that Japanese people

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in the other cities of Japan...
I mean Tokyo, obviously...

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tend to look down their noses
at the people of Osaka,

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and they think they are
a bit rude,

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and a bit rough-and-ready;
a bit vulgar, even.

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Osaka has a reputation

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for being a bit grubbier
than Tokyo.

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It has a bit more crime,
a bit more litter.

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I like the sound of it already.

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Osaka's a busy
industrial port city

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that's known as the Manchester
of the East.

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It's got swagger,
a mad-fer-it nightlife,

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and I can't understand
what anyone's saying.

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To experience
downtown Osaka properly,

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and to get a bit to eat because
I've been at sea for days,

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I'm meeting my local guide,
Ha-Chan, to get a short tour.

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- Hello.
- James-san.

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- My name is Ha-Chandas,
nice to meet you. -And you.

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- Welcome to Osaka, Japan, thank you.
- Thank you very, very much.

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I know your name before.
I very appreciate film together,

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- thank you so much.
- No-no, thank you.

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- Okay!
- It's a pleasure to meet you.

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- Me, too.
- I'm starving.

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Oh...
Okay.

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- Can we eat?
- Sure.

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- Sashimi and beer.
- Sure. Let's go.

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And then, noodles.

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See, I love that this is all...
everything's sort of

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- got colors and designs over it.
- Yeah, this is...

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- uh, designs.
- Rockets.

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See, look at that lantern,
I love that.

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So y-you're from Osaka?

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Yes, 100% Osaka.

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100% Osakan okonomiyaki person.

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Yeah, takoyaki.

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So what... Why do people in Tokyo
sort of... They look down

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- on Osaka a bit and think
it's a bit... -Mmm...

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- it's a bit below them, don't they?
- I don't know why.

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I don't know.
Do you know?

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Is it because this is...
I wonder if it's 'cause

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- this is a good time city.
- Mm-hmm.

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This actually feels a bit like
Tokyo did 20 years ago.

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- Uh-huh.
- It's a bit more... mad.

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I mean, what's that dragon
for there?

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- This is a ramen restaurant.
- It's a whatta?

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- Ramen. Restaurant.
- Ramen.

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Always we are eating
for the "hangover food."

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So twenty-four hours open.

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Ramen hangover food.

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Yes, even Osaka people are

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different to Tokyo to Osaka
is hangover food is

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Sushi, hangover food.

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Ramen, hangover food.

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Takoyaki, hangover food.

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Very different.

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And what do they eat
in Tokyo for hangovers?

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Kebab?

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Osaka has a proud reputation
as the street food capital

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of Japan,
and everywhere I look,

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there are mouthwatering
local delicacies.

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Unfortunately, Ha-Chan
seems to have forgotten

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that bit of our chat,
and keeps pointing out things

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that are completely inedible.

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Uh, James, stop here.
Look down.

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That's very nice.

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Do you know
what this looks like?

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It's a pagoda.

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- Osaka Castle.
- Oh, that's Osaka Castle?

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This is a very famous place.

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- This is a manhole cover.
- Oh, wow.

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You see?

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Do you actually have that

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- all the time in your bag?
- Yes.

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- You do?
- Mm-hmm.

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I manage to steer Ha-Chan
away from an engrossing tour

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of Osaka's top 30
manhole covers.

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But even I get distracted
by the bright lights and sounds

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of what's round the corner.

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This looks very, very
complicated, and it is.

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Balls come out of it,
and you fire them into a slot;

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it's a bit like a fruit machine,
come on the screen...

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Okay?

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- Uh, right.
- Again.

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Oh! Look, the balls are coming!

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Ooh!

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I got one!
- Lucky!

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Yeah, I got another one!
There you go!

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Yes!

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The name "pachinko"
comes from the noise

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the tiny balls make
when you play.

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You might just be able
to hear it.

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Can you hear what I'm saying?
The racket here is incredible.

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The sound man, Dan, just told me
that the noise in here

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is louder than the pit lane
at Suzuka.

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this Hello Kitty gonk
for 540 balls.

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The pillow with the train on,

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and the, and the,
and the things.

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And this, and a wallet,
 all this.

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All this could have been mine.

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But before you say
 "rip-u off-u",

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there is a way
to see some proper returns.

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We just have to do it out of
earshot of sono otoko...

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Now, I just want to clear up
a few things

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which I couldn't really explain
in there because of the racket.

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It is true that it's illegal
to win money at pachinko,

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because gambling for money
is not allowed outside

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of licensed places
such as horse racing pitches.

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That's why you have to win
a cuddly toy.

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So you can't,
you can't win the money,

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Thank God.

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Ha-Chan mentioned
something earlier

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called "hangover takoyaki"

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which is made from
those enticing octopuses...

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and yes,
you can say "octopuses"

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rather than "octopi."

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In fact, "octopus"
is of Greek origin,

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and the plural in that
is "octopodes",

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so if we're using
the morphological sys...

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oh, hang on, I'm talking
over the scene.

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Ha-Chan mentioned
something earlier

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called "hangover takoyaki",
which is made from squid.

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- Is this like a pancake?
Made with... -Uh, no, no, no.

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So what...

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They taste something like...

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octopus dumplings, or something.

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We use a huge piece.

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Yes! -JAMES: Yeah,
that's a very big piece, yeah.

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This is why
our local comes here.

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How much does it cost?

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Uh... here.

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You can have a look.

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Six pieces.
Hey, it's cheap as hell.

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It's 400... It's like three,
three quid.

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- Okini.
- Okini.

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Okini, okini.

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- Mmm. -Ooh, I've got lots
of fishy bits with that.

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- Mmm.
- Okay.

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The fishy flakes...

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...they taste of
an old Japanese house.

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I know that sounds like
a stupid thing to say,

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but it does taste like
an old Japanese house.

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This food presenter
lark is easy.

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Osaka's slogan is "kuidaore!"

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Meaning "ruin yourself
with food."

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Although
another translation is

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"eat yourself bankrupt."

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And just down the street,
you can certainly do that.

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God, look at the price of that!

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Oh, my God!

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That's 70 English pounds
for a piece of beef.

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For that much money,
you could buy a cow in England.

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It must be tasty!

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Not a very good one, but...

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Kobe beef is the Bugatti Veyron
of dead animal bits;

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but I wonder if their
reputedly pampered

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and expensive lifestyle
is just a load

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of old bullocks.

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What we believe in England,

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the cows live in
very special fields

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- in very nice, remote areas,
beautiful grass. -Mm-hmm.

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They only eat the grass,
and people go and massage them,

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and pat them on the head,
and you know,

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give them a rub,
and talk to them...

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- The cow is listen to the music.
- Do they?

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- Yes! Jazz music.
- Oh, jazz music?

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- Yeah. -Oh, well,
it should taste excellent, then.

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It's a pity it's not Kobe pig,

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otherwise they'd all be
listening to Charlie Porker.

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Well, I liked it.

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Anyway, here it is,
Mooey Armstrong.

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- Oh, my God.
- Sumimasen.

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It's not very big, is it?

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Excellent. Go on, then.

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Tell me what it's like.

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Oh, my God, it melts
in my mouth.

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- Really?
- Mmm.

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- Is it very, very soft?
- Mm-hmm.

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Touch of salt, here we go.

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How is it?

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Mmm. Mmm.

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- Very different taste.
- It's extremely nice, actually.

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There now follows
a rather awkward encounter,

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where the English
travel presenter,

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thanks to copious beer-us,

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misses all the signs
from his guide

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that she just
wants a compliment.

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- It's a great life here
actually, because... -Mm...

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it's warm, you've got the river,
you've got all the bars...

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- Mm-hmm...
- you've got the amazing lights...

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- Mm-hmm...
- it's not windy...

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There's all this great food...

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How about the people?

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beer, everybody seems
very cheerful and friendly

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and a bit mad. It's great...

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Thank you...

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Thank you, thank you.

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Yes, we recommend Osaka.

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You should come to Osaka.

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Filled with
great shame and dishonor

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at my total lack of manners,

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I agree to face the ultimate
Japanese punishment...

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- a selfie. -HA-CHAN: Funny face!
Funny face!

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Thank you!

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Thank you so much. Yatta!

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Kawaii. It is cute.

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Next morning,
along with the rest of Osaka,

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I'm in something
of a beer and octoballs coma.

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But the crew assure me
that they have something

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that'll wake me right up.

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I am Ultraman!

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I'm actually a children's
manga comic superhero

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with martial arts powers.

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Although, weirdly,
I feel more like a knob.

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Now, I know
what you're all thinking,

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but Nintendo
are famously litigious,

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and our lawyers have
also advised us to make

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no Link to official characters.

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And, even if this looks
the Samus that,

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to Kirby any mention of them.

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I'll admit I had no idea
who Ultraman was,

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but all our Japanese fixers and
our friends knew immediately.

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But this sort of thing
is perfectly normal.

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You dress up as
your favorite manga character

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and you drive around Osaka
in a children's go-kart.

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And, as you can see,
there's nothing

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in the karting company's name

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to bring that other property
to mind whatsoever.

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They do it in Tokyo as well.
Not tourists, locals.

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Left!

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Unfortunately,
unlike most games,

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- here, you only get one life.

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Crikey.

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We're not going
on the expressway, are we?

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I haven't got any money
for the tolls.

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Given that the Japanese seem
to quite like rules and so on,

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I'm surprised this is allowed.

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I mean, it shouldn't be allowed
on all sorts of levels.

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It's two-stroke, it's dirty,
it's actually a child's toy,

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it's not really road legal
and it's silly.

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It's good, isn't it?

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Konnichiwa.

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Domo arigato. Sumimasen.

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Unintendo legal consequences
aside,

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Wii may feel ridiculous,

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but despite the Switch
in characters,

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this is the SNES best thing

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to being in that
unmentioned karting sim,

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even if the lawyers
aren't Game... Boy.

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This Japanese obsession
with manga comic characters

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and superheroes and pocket
monsters and all the rest of it,

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it's completely real.

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It's not just something
we've imagined in the West.

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They pervade
absolutely everything.

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They're on signposts, they're
in the instruction manuals

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for appliances,
they're in people's bedrooms,

00:12:42.580 --> 00:12:45.180
they're in restaurants,
lucky cat, everywhere.

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I've suddenly wondered, is it
something to do with Shintoism?

00:12:48.340 --> 00:12:50.380
Because if you've got
millions of gods

00:12:50.420 --> 00:12:52.540
and everything
is invested with a spirit,

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then it seems perfectly
reasonable to populate the world

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with lots of fictitious
little characters

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that you can adopt as your own.

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It's just a thought.

00:13:02.380 --> 00:13:04.180
I know that's a bit profound
for someone dressed up

00:13:04.220 --> 00:13:08.660
in a children's fancy dress
costume, but there it is.

00:13:08.700 --> 00:13:11.780
A superhero's work
is never done.

00:13:13.860 --> 00:13:16.820
Right. Where to now?

00:13:19.860 --> 00:13:23.020
Now, so far we've seen that
Osaka is the Japanese capital

00:13:23.060 --> 00:13:24.660
of eating,
especially on the street.

00:13:24.700 --> 00:13:27.580
It's also the capital
of bright lights, garishness,

00:13:27.620 --> 00:13:31.020
noise, generally having a
good time and that's all great.

00:13:31.060 --> 00:13:33.380
I can enjoy a beer
and a takoyaki

00:13:33.420 --> 00:13:34.980
like anybody else in the world,

00:13:35.020 --> 00:13:38.140
but it is also the font
of Japanese humor.

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Down these stairs, in fact,
is a typical Osakan comedy club.

00:13:42.460 --> 00:13:46.220
The trouble with this
is we know... we all know...

00:13:46.260 --> 00:13:49.860
comedy does not translate.

00:13:54.140 --> 00:13:56.100
I mean, that's not funny.

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It just isn't funny.

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Although there have been
many times on this trip

00:14:01.700 --> 00:14:03.380
where my appearance
has been met with laughter...

00:14:07.580 --> 00:14:09.740
...well, usually...

00:14:09.780 --> 00:14:12.060
...if I want to get laughs
from a Japanese audience

00:14:12.100 --> 00:14:13.620
on purpose, I need some help.

00:14:13.700 --> 00:14:16.300
I need a loudmouthed
ball of energy,

00:14:16.340 --> 00:14:19.580
who, more importantly,
will gladly march towards

00:14:19.620 --> 00:14:23.020
inevitable onstage death
at his sensei's command.

00:14:25.740 --> 00:14:27.500
There's only one man
for the job.

00:14:27.540 --> 00:14:31.220
My trusty Samurai "Deodorant"
from Tokyo, Yujiro.

00:14:31.260 --> 00:14:34.740
His wife made it for you!
My God!

00:14:34.780 --> 00:14:36.860
Earplugs on standby.

00:14:40.860 --> 00:14:42.460
Now, the problem with this,
I think,

00:14:42.500 --> 00:14:45.220
is that humor doesn't translate.

00:14:45.260 --> 00:14:48.220
It's too subtle and it just...
Something that works in English

00:14:48.260 --> 00:14:51.620
that we think is hilarious
is just banal in Japanese.

00:14:51.700 --> 00:14:54.380
- Yeah. -So what we did here
as part of this experiment,

00:14:54.380 --> 00:14:56.180
we will either prove
that humor doesn't translate,

00:14:56.220 --> 00:14:59.060
or we will surprise ourselves
and discover that it does.

00:14:59.100 --> 00:15:02.340
I've given Yujiro a wide
selection of jokes in English,

00:15:02.380 --> 00:15:05.380
to choose what might work best
for a Japanese audience.

00:15:05.380 --> 00:15:08.180
Everything from chin-strokey
 New Yorker satire

00:15:08.220 --> 00:15:12.580
to absolute bottom of the
barrel Christmas cracker jokes.

00:15:12.620 --> 00:15:14.100
Guess which he's picked.

00:15:14.180 --> 00:15:16.180
- And the ones you've chosen are...
- Yes.

00:15:16.220 --> 00:15:19.020
The first one. The-the...

00:15:19.060 --> 00:15:20.620
uh, "My Boss."

00:15:20.620 --> 00:15:24.620
"My boss told me to have
a good day, so I went home."

00:15:27.020 --> 00:15:29.220
- Well, I think it's funny. -Okay, well, if
you think it's funny, that's what matters,

00:15:29.300 --> 00:15:31.460
- 'cause then we'll see if it works
in Japanese. -Yes, I hope so, yes.

00:15:31.500 --> 00:15:33.500
- And the second one.
- "The other day,

00:15:33.540 --> 00:15:35.540
my wife asked me
to pass her lipstick,

00:15:35.580 --> 00:15:38.380
"but I accidentally
passed her a glue stick.

00:15:38.380 --> 00:15:40.500
She still isn't talking to me."

00:15:42.540 --> 00:15:44.820
Is it funny in Japanese?

00:15:44.860 --> 00:15:47.220
Well, uh, 80%. 80%.

00:15:47.260 --> 00:15:48.580
- 80%. Okay.
- 80%.

00:15:50.380 --> 00:15:52.220
It might seem like we've bombed

00:15:52.260 --> 00:15:54.220
before we've even started,

00:15:54.260 --> 00:15:56.300
but a lot of Japanese humor
is based on kotoba asobi,

00:15:58.540 --> 00:15:59.620
dajare and even oyaji gag.

00:16:04.380 --> 00:16:07.780
And, in case that wasn't enough
pressure, on the bill tonight

00:16:07.820 --> 00:16:11.060
is also a famous veteran
Japanese double act,

00:16:11.100 --> 00:16:13.380
Sen Saru Man, who give
some words of encouragement

00:16:13.460 --> 00:16:14.580
for Yujiro.

00:16:14.620 --> 00:16:15.980
Will the Japanese

00:16:16.020 --> 00:16:17.980
be kind?

00:16:19.980 --> 00:16:22.060
Yes, the Japanese
are generally kind,

00:16:22.100 --> 00:16:26.380
but Osaka people are not gentle.

00:16:26.460 --> 00:16:28.620
Especially if it's about comedy.

00:16:28.700 --> 00:16:31.700
We're going to die.

00:16:33.780 --> 00:16:35.740
Oh, my God.

00:16:35.780 --> 00:16:37.100
They're bloody professionals
out there.

00:16:37.180 --> 00:16:39.500
They are bloody professionals.

00:16:39.540 --> 00:16:40.340
Oh, my gosh.

00:16:40.800 --> 00:16:42.880
Sensing Yujiro's
nerves, I do my best

00:16:42.920 --> 00:16:45.080
to reassure him.

00:16:45.160 --> 00:16:47.000
If you were performing
in England...

00:16:47.040 --> 00:16:48.520
- Yeah.
- ...and I was introducing you...

00:16:48.560 --> 00:16:50.320
- Yeah.
- ...I would say,

00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:54.200
"Next up, ladies and gentleman,
is the Japanese Tintin,"

00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:56.800
and that would already
give you a head start

00:16:56.800 --> 00:16:59.720
because you do look a bit
like Tintin, but Japanese.

00:16:59.800 --> 00:17:00.860
"Tintin" is dick in Japanese.

00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:02.200
- You're on.
- No, no.

00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:03.680
- I think...
- It does.

00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:05.160
- I think you're on.
- No, but it's a character.

00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:06.520
- You're on, I think.
- Is it... You're on.

00:17:06.560 --> 00:17:08.560
- What-what? Wha... what?
- They're ready.

00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:10.080
- What... already?
- Yes.

00:17:10.080 --> 00:17:11.560
- I-I heard it's 7:00. No?
- No, no.

00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:12.920
Oh,.

00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:15.000
- Are you serious?
- Yes.

00:17:15.040 --> 00:17:17.720
I'm suddenly getting...
I-I'm not prepared.

00:17:17.760 --> 00:17:20.560
- Oh, . -You can't be prepared,
just go and tell some jokes.

00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:22.800
Luckily for
Yujiro, I'm a dab hand

00:17:22.800 --> 00:17:24.800
at stress management
techniques.

00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.040
Go... ah-ah, eh-eh, oh-oh.

00:17:27.080 --> 00:17:29.760
Oh-oh, eh-eh, ah-ah.

00:17:32.560 --> 00:17:36.680
For once,
Yujiro seems to be speechless.

00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:39.480
Ladies and gentlemen!

00:17:39.520 --> 00:17:41.520
Oh, no, there it is.

00:17:42.080 --> 00:17:43.760
Good evening, Osaka!

00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:46.960
I'm Yujiro, pleasure
to be here today.

00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:51.760
Ah, first British joke!

00:17:51.800 --> 00:17:53.800
- Yay!
- Okay?

00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:56.480
One day...

00:17:56.520 --> 00:17:59.240
the Boss said at work,

00:17:59.280 --> 00:18:00.680
"Have a great day."

00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:02.000
"Have a great day."

00:18:02.040 --> 00:18:08.320
So, I left work early!

00:18:09.800 --> 00:18:12.520
-This is not funny, right?
-(laughter)

00:18:13.560 --> 00:18:14.580
So, it basically means
"left work early."

00:18:14.660 --> 00:18:16.220
Hmm.

00:18:16.320 --> 00:18:17.800
The second one.

00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:21.320
One Sunday, my wife said...

00:18:21.320 --> 00:18:25.760
"Honey, pass me a lipstick,
please."

00:18:25.800 --> 00:18:30.320
I passed her a glue stick
by mistake.

00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:34.320
Since then,
she doesn't talk to me.

00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:38.840
Okay!

00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:40.520
I'd like to welcome the person

00:18:40.560 --> 00:18:41.880
who thought of
those boring jokes!

00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:43.320
Yujiro's following
the golden rule

00:18:43.360 --> 00:18:44.760
of many big TV stars:

00:18:44.800 --> 00:18:47.600
when things go wrong,
blame the crew.

00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:49.640
Stupid foreigner!

00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:52.280
Hey, James May!

00:18:52.320 --> 00:18:54.600
Thank you very much!

00:18:54.600 --> 00:18:56.880
In the interest of science,
I can't declare this experiment

00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:00.240
a failure without testing
the other subject.

00:19:00.280 --> 00:19:03.240
So, here's a Japanese joke
translated for you.

00:19:03.520 --> 00:19:08.160
Why don't Hawaiians
go to the dentist?

00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:09.800
Because they have good teeth.

00:19:09.840 --> 00:19:11.360
Mic drop.

00:19:14.360 --> 00:19:16.800
On the plus side, I had
a lovely drink out with Mai.

00:19:16.840 --> 00:19:20.160
She made me take her
to a Boy Scout bar.

00:19:26.600 --> 00:19:28.600
After last night,
I've put Yujiro on a strict ban

00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:30.400
on anything pervy.

00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:32.320
So, for my last day in Osaka,

00:19:32.360 --> 00:19:34.000
he's taking me
to a local university.

00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:39.760
We are in one of the greatest
universities in Osaka.

00:19:39.800 --> 00:19:41.920
It's called
the Kinki University.

00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:45.120
- Is it really? -Yeah.
Kinki University, Kindai University.

00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:46.960
We the Japanese call it
Kinki University.

00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:48.760
- Kinki University. Okay.
- Yeah.

00:19:48.800 --> 00:19:50.400
We're gonna go... we're
going-going, we're gonna go

00:19:50.440 --> 00:19:52.240
the, uh, the sumo training.

00:19:52.280 --> 00:19:55.160
- Sumo? -Yeah.
We're gonna be sumo wrestlers.

00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:57.200
I would like to take
a few moments out

00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:00.120
to talk about wasabi,
which is that little blob

00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:01.840
of green stuff you get
on the side of your plate

00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:03.340
in a Japanese restaurant.

00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:04.920
It is native to Japan.

00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:07.960
Its scientific name is
 wasaba japonica.

00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:11.680
And when it's growing,
this is what it looks like.

00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:13.320
Now, we think of it
as a flavoring.

00:20:13.360 --> 00:20:16.840
Historically, it was more
of a disinfectant, if you like.

00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:19.680
Before the days of rapid
transport and refrigeration,

00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:21.800
you put the wasabi
on the raw fish

00:20:21.840 --> 00:20:23.800
to prevent bacteria
from growing.

00:20:23.840 --> 00:20:27.200
Now, rumor has it,
in Osaka especially,

00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:29.720
that if a restaurant doesn't
like the cut of your jib...

00:20:29.760 --> 00:20:32.680
if, for example, you're a bit
of a loudmouth gaijin...

00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:35.880
they might overdo the wasabi
to blow your head off

00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:37.680
and teach you a lesson.

00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:40.960
And this leads rather neatly
to the game of

00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:43.800
wasabi roulette.

00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:49.680
You will need
a willing opponent...

00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:51.840
in this case, Mai...

00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:54.480
a plate of salmon sushi.

00:20:54.520 --> 00:20:59.240
One of them has been laced
with the weapons-grade wasabi.

00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.080
So take it in turns
to eat a piece,

00:21:03.120 --> 00:21:04.320
and the loser...

00:21:04.360 --> 00:21:06.160
Well, it's to the death,
basically.

00:21:16.320 --> 00:21:18.040
This ended up taking
about 25 minutes,

00:21:18.080 --> 00:21:19.960
with nothing happening.

00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:22.400
And two people just sitting
eating sushi

00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:23.960
turned out to be
far less gripping

00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:25.520
than we'd thought.

00:21:25.560 --> 00:21:27.200
That's remarkable.
If you think this is fixed

00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:29.360
in some way, it isn't.

00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:30.600
We are down to the last two.

00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:34.440
- Itadakimasu.
- Itadakimasu.

00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:41.800
Oh, no.

00:21:41.840 --> 00:21:44.080
Seriously?

00:21:44.120 --> 00:21:45.680
You put in a lot, didn't you?

00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:47.720
Lots.

00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:50.600
Well, I've lost.
Shall we just cut?

00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:52.400
- No.
- No.

00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:55.560
Okay, are you all running...

00:21:57.600 --> 00:22:00.040
Itadakimasu.

00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:03.720
Oh, Jesus Christ!

00:22:03.800 --> 00:22:06.960
Mm! Mm!

00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:12.360
Oh, you'll need some...

00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:15.040
Hai, have some water.
 Hai, hai, hai.

00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:22.600
Whoa.

00:22:24.920 --> 00:22:27.200
Yo, I am... I'm crying.

00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:32.440
What's the Japanese
for "you bastard"?

00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:38.040
Kids, just say no.

00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:43.040
So, wincingly,
it's time to leave Osaka

00:22:43.080 --> 00:22:45.920
as we carry on south.

00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.800
The crew's taking their
camera equipment by car,

00:22:48.840 --> 00:22:50.480
but I've decided to enjoy
one of Japan's

00:22:50.520 --> 00:22:53.720
iconic bullet trains,

00:22:53.800 --> 00:22:56.840
and film everything myself,
like a trendy vlogger.

00:22:56.880 --> 00:22:58.920
I have a silly enough
haircut for it.

00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:00.600
Audio is on the...

00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:02.440
That's just Dan,
our Belgian sound man,

00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:04.280
mic-ing me up.

00:23:04.320 --> 00:23:05.920
So, prepare yourselves,
viewers,

00:23:05.960 --> 00:23:08.960
for Emmy Award-winning
cinematography like this.

00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:13.920
And this.

00:23:16.040 --> 00:23:17.920
Still going?

00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:23.920
Wow, Japanese Shinkansen
station.

00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:27.240
As opposed to a French
Shinkanden station.

00:23:27.280 --> 00:23:30.040
- Konnichiwa.
- Konnichiwa.

00:23:32.280 --> 00:23:33.880
Oh, bloody hell.

00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:36.640
The symbol is something like
two Mexicans fighting

00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:38.280
over a broken television,

00:23:38.320 --> 00:23:41.480
followed by another television
on a sledge,

00:23:41.520 --> 00:23:43.400
and a square tree.

00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:51.080
Beautiful trains.

00:23:51.120 --> 00:23:53.240
I've treated myself
to the posh carriage,

00:23:53.280 --> 00:23:55.080
which is currently
being cleaned.

00:23:55.120 --> 00:23:56.720
Obviously, because it's Japan,

00:23:56.800 --> 00:24:00.200
and it hasn't been cleaned
for the last 20 seconds.

00:24:06.800 --> 00:24:09.360
Oh, I thought we were gonna
get East Enders then.

00:24:11.840 --> 00:24:14.240
Wonder if that jingle was
written by our jingle man.

00:24:14.280 --> 00:24:15.720
This is wonderful.
You get on the train,

00:24:15.800 --> 00:24:17.920
and exactly on time
it just whooshes away.

00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:20.000
No stupid announcements or anything.

00:24:20.040 --> 00:24:23.000
There's one there.

00:24:23.040 --> 00:24:25.160
We think of these trains
as being incredibly modern.

00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:28.840
The first one ran
when I was one year old,

00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:31.840
and I'm ancient now.

00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:41.720
I take back what I said
about announcements.

00:24:41.800 --> 00:24:44.600
This one's unlikely to finish
by the time we get there.

00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:52.360
Please do not attempt to get off
the train whilst it's moving.

00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:54.080
Ladies and gentlemen... -Oh, God.

00:24:54.120 --> 00:24:56.280
...welcome to the Shinkansen.

00:24:56.320 --> 00:24:59.040
This is a Mizuho superexpress,

00:24:59.080 --> 00:25:02.040
bound for Kagoshima Chuo.

00:25:02.080 --> 00:25:05.680
Unfortunately, as this shot
of me walking out

00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:07.560
of Okayama station suggests,

00:25:07.600 --> 00:25:09.400
the crew caught up with me.

00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:12.440
And despite it being my day
off, they're adamant I film

00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:15.640
a single piece about
the region's mythical guardian,

00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:17.880
of whom there's
a statue outside

00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:21.440
with nothing amusing about
its design whatsoever.

00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:23.640
Action.

00:25:37.800 --> 00:25:39.920
Okay, I'm ready.

00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:47.880
No, I can do it,
I can do it. Right.

00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:55.360
Right, I'm ready.

00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:58.840
This is Momotaro.
He's a local folk hero.

00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:01.120
According to legend,
an old lady...

00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:08.840
- That was so close.
- So close.

00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:10.440
He's known...

00:26:12.120 --> 00:26:13.920
I'm not sure I can do it.

00:26:16.120 --> 00:26:19.200
Sorry, I'll do it again.

00:26:24.600 --> 00:26:27.640
This is Momotaro.
He's a local folk hero.

00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:29.400
And let me see if I can remember
the story correctly.

00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:31.680
There was an old woman
who was out by the river,

00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:33.800
and she saw a big peach
floating past.

00:26:33.840 --> 00:26:35.440
So she picked it up
and took it home.

00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:38.680
But when she cut it in half,
she found this small boy inside.

00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:42.280
And the small boy went off,
and he made friends with a dog,

00:26:42.320 --> 00:26:44.440
a monkey, a pheasant
and a pigeon,

00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:45.920
and then somehow,
with their help,

00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:47.960
defeated all the ogres

00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:49.280
who were threatening the city.

00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.160
While I recover,
the crew buy time

00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.760
with arty focus pulls
of pinecones.

00:26:58.800 --> 00:27:00.600
We've come to Koraku-en,

00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:02.880
a garden completed in 1700

00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:07.520
by Ikida Tsunamasa, the local
feudal lord at the time.

00:27:13.280 --> 00:27:16.440
I can see why formal gardens are
so important to the Japanese,

00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:17.640
even if you've only
got a space

00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:19.480
the size of half
a ping-pong table.

00:27:19.520 --> 00:27:21.760
Because the cities
are fantastic,

00:27:21.760 --> 00:27:24.240
but they're a barrage
of noise and lights

00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:27.120
and jingles and Hello Kitty
and Shinkansen

00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:29.760
and okonomiyaki and Yujiro
and all the rest of it,

00:27:29.760 --> 00:27:32.120
and you have to be able
to find somewhere

00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:36.720
where you can just be at peace,
and here it is.

00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:45.240
Rather than just bung together
a few nice flowers

00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.480
and a fountain
of a small boy urinating,

00:27:48.520 --> 00:27:52.600
Tsunamasa-san decided to depict
Japan in miniature,

00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:55.360
through the medium of plants.

00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:58.720
That hill over there,
obviously, is Mt. Fuji,

00:27:58.760 --> 00:28:01.440
but the buildings represent
things like full-size temples,

00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:03.240
full-size palaces.

00:28:03.280 --> 00:28:04.360
The lakes and the ponds,
they represent

00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.040
full-size lakes in Japan.

00:28:07.080 --> 00:28:08.240
It's a way of sort of
experiencing

00:28:08.280 --> 00:28:09.680
the beauty of the whole country

00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:12.240
in a short walk 'round a park.

00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:14.000
I mean, most people would
just have a train set

00:28:14.040 --> 00:28:16.560
or something like that,
but you know.

00:28:20.080 --> 00:28:23.240
For over three centuries,
generations of gardeners

00:28:23.280 --> 00:28:25.120
have manicured this place into

00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:28.680
a state of zen-like perfection.

00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:31.240
Here, for example...
these people are restringing

00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:32.360
this bamboo fence.

00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:34.040
This has to be done every year,

00:28:34.080 --> 00:28:35.600
painstakingly by hand,

00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:39.520
using the twine and a special
Japanese knot.

00:28:39.560 --> 00:28:43.760
Or, as they call it, a knot.

00:28:43.760 --> 00:28:47.360
This man has been raking
this gravel garden

00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:50.360
continuously for the past
45 years.

00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:52.120
He's still an apprentice.

00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:54.920
He's been doing it so long,
the prongs on his rake

00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:57.640
have completely worn away.

00:29:07.280 --> 00:29:09.680
A flash of cold steel,

00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:14.600
the flower of Japan falls
to cries of "bonsai!"

00:29:17.120 --> 00:29:20.520
But I'm not here to bask in the
beauty of a well-trimmed bush.

00:29:20.600 --> 00:29:23.480
I want to experience something
the Japanese have been

00:29:23.520 --> 00:29:27.040
masters of
for over 1,000 years.

00:29:27.080 --> 00:29:28.640
And Yujiro's joining me,

00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:30.600
having finally regained
the ability to sit down.

00:29:32.760 --> 00:29:35.480
You join me at a very
contemplative moment.

00:29:35.520 --> 00:29:39.760
Kai Hattasan here is
a Zen meditation sensei,

00:29:39.760 --> 00:29:42.280
and I've got no idea what to do.

00:29:42.360 --> 00:29:44.280
I've never done anything
like this before.

00:29:44.360 --> 00:29:47.520
First, correct the posture.

00:29:47.600 --> 00:29:49.620
Put right foot on top of left
leg, please, can you do it?

00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:51.120
Migi over hidari.

00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.000
- Oh! Good.
- Very good.

00:29:53.040 --> 00:29:53.820
Okay.

00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:55.160
Then next, put the left foot
on top of right leg.

00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:57.160
- I won't be able to do that.
- Oh, my God.

00:29:57.200 --> 00:29:59.600
Oh, my God. Oh, shoot.

00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:01.640
I can't do that.

00:30:03.840 --> 00:30:08.880
If you can't do this,
the second position.

00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:11.640
This second foot on here.

00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:16.120
Okay, so left... so migi
 under there and hidari...

00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:17.260
I can do that, yes.

00:30:17.300 --> 00:30:21.460
Good! This is called Hankafuza.

00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:27.520
To be more concrete,
inhale in four seconds

00:30:27.560 --> 00:30:30.880
and exhale in five seconds.

00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:35.000
Then be with the Earth,
be one with the Universe.

00:30:41.840 --> 00:30:45.640
As long as you have your body
position in the correct order

00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:49.280
and you're, uh,
breathing in the right way

00:30:49.320 --> 00:30:52.000
then, your heart will be...

00:30:52.040 --> 00:30:54.840
- Released in... Oh.
- Sorry.

00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.840
The director.

00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:02.640
Right, where were we?

00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:04.080
Let's begin.

00:31:04.320 --> 00:31:06.800
Okay.

00:31:09.280 --> 00:31:12.640
To enter a blissful state,
I try to clear my mind

00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.840
of unnecessary,
intrusive thoughts.

00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:47.240
It's interesting; it's very
relaxing and very peaceful,

00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:49.880
but the trouble is,
it gives you a good opportunity

00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:51.480
to think about other things,

00:31:51.520 --> 00:31:53.840
so it's very difficult
to not think of anything.

00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:55.840
- Ah...
- So I was actually thinking

00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:58.160
about laundry at one point,
'cause I've run out of pants.

00:31:59.560 --> 00:32:02.560
It's almost impossible not
to think of anything at all,

00:32:02.600 --> 00:32:07.320
so by concentrating
on breathing alone...

00:32:07.360 --> 00:32:11.280
one keeps one's spirit calm.

00:32:11.320 --> 00:32:12.800
That was all fascinating

00:32:12.840 --> 00:32:14.200
and something
I've never done before.

00:32:14.280 --> 00:32:15.840
It's interesting
to learn about it.

00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:19.320
I'd like to leave you
with this final thought.

00:32:35.980 --> 00:32:38.380
I'm leaving Okayama behind,

00:32:38.420 --> 00:32:41.840
heading towards the southern
tip of Japan's main island,

00:32:41.940 --> 00:32:42.700
Honshu.

00:32:42.740 --> 00:32:44.300
As I drive through
the ancient valleys

00:32:44.380 --> 00:32:46.620
flecked with paddy fields
and sleepy villages,

00:32:47.260 --> 00:32:49.540
it's hard to imagine
I'm about to visit a place

00:32:49.580 --> 00:32:52.500
that changed
the modern world forever.

00:32:52.540 --> 00:32:54.980
This is Hiroshima.

00:32:55.020 --> 00:32:58.300
It's a very wealthy
and, for obvious reasons,

00:32:58.340 --> 00:33:02.060
very modern Japanese city.

00:33:03.460 --> 00:33:05.340
I bet when I said Hiroshima,
the first thing

00:33:05.380 --> 00:33:06.860
that came into your minds
was not

00:33:06.860 --> 00:33:08.100
the Mazda car company,

00:33:08.140 --> 00:33:12.700
for example;
it was atomic warfare.

00:33:14.740 --> 00:33:16.300
We all know the details.

00:33:16.340 --> 00:33:19.700
The bomb dropped
on August 6, 1945,

00:33:19.740 --> 00:33:24.260
right here,
where now stands a park,

00:33:24.300 --> 00:33:28.100
and at its heart, the Hiroshima
Peace Memorial Museum.

00:33:43.100 --> 00:33:46.700
Now, I realize this is going to
seem like a rather weighty topic

00:33:46.740 --> 00:33:49.900
for a travel show
full of lighthearted larks,

00:33:49.980 --> 00:33:53.340
but the fact is,
you cannot come to Hiroshima

00:33:53.340 --> 00:33:56.300
and not visit
the atom bomb memorial park.

00:33:56.340 --> 00:33:58.860
Not least because
it's extremely well done.

00:33:58.860 --> 00:34:01.060
And you can't come
to the atom bomb memorial park

00:34:01.100 --> 00:34:04.860
without addressing this rather
thorny and delicate subject,

00:34:04.860 --> 00:34:09.260
so I'm afraid
that's what we're going to do.

00:34:09.300 --> 00:34:11.900
Other TV shows are available.

00:34:16.860 --> 00:34:20.140
No one knows for sure
how many people died,

00:34:20.180 --> 00:34:22.820
but it's reckoned
around 80,000,

00:34:22.860 --> 00:34:25.940
or roughly 30%
of the population.

00:34:25.980 --> 00:34:27.460
And while numbers like that

00:34:27.500 --> 00:34:30.300
are almost impossible
to comprehend,

00:34:30.340 --> 00:34:33.700
seeing the tattered and burned
possessions of the victims

00:34:33.740 --> 00:34:38.580
brings home the human cost
of this indiscriminate attack.

00:34:40.620 --> 00:34:45.780
Hiroshima is obviously a very
weighty and difficult subject,

00:34:45.820 --> 00:34:48.700
with many schools
of historical thought.

00:34:48.740 --> 00:34:51.700
I'm hoping
Professor Tosh Minohara,

00:34:51.740 --> 00:34:53.900
a Japanese-American historian,

00:34:53.940 --> 00:34:59.460
can talk me through both sides
of this very contentious coin.

00:34:59.500 --> 00:35:01.860
If you take away
the nuclear aspect

00:35:01.900 --> 00:35:05.460
of the attack on Hiroshima, what
we are looking at in that museum

00:35:05.500 --> 00:35:08.100
is the commemoration of war
and the pity of war,

00:35:08.140 --> 00:35:10.500
- which is universal, isn't it?
- Yes. Yes.

00:35:10.540 --> 00:35:14.140
Yes, the immense human tragedy
is-is very apparent

00:35:14.180 --> 00:35:16.100
when you go to the museum.

00:35:16.140 --> 00:35:20.780
There's a view in the West that,
actually, Hiroshima and Nagasaki

00:35:20.820 --> 00:35:24.980
are a sort of fig leaf for Japan
because it allows Japan to say,

00:35:25.020 --> 00:35:27.020
"We suffered the world's
only nuclear attack...

00:35:27.060 --> 00:35:29.460
- Yes. -...it's a terrible thing,"
and it allows them to ignore

00:35:29.500 --> 00:35:31.380
- the terrible things Japan did.
- Yes.

00:35:31.420 --> 00:35:34.020
- That's a prevalent view amongst
Western historians. -Absolutely.

00:35:34.060 --> 00:35:37.020
There's a reason why Hiroshima
and Nagasaki were both bombed.

00:35:37.060 --> 00:35:39.220
You know, it's because Japan
instigated the war.

00:35:39.260 --> 00:35:42.220
Uh, and you're absolutely right
to point out the fact

00:35:42.260 --> 00:35:46.100
- that the two bombs makes
Japan a victim. -Mm.

00:35:46.140 --> 00:35:48.260
And this, I think, makes it
very difficult for Japan

00:35:48.300 --> 00:35:51.540
to acknowledge the fact
that it was the aggressor.

00:35:51.580 --> 00:35:53.460
Because it's very hard
to be the victim

00:35:53.500 --> 00:35:55.100
and the aggressor
at the same time.

00:35:55.140 --> 00:35:57.220
The-the most popular view,
if you look

00:35:57.260 --> 00:35:59.980
at sort of surveys and things
in America and Europe,

00:36:00.020 --> 00:36:03.060
is that the atomic bombs
were evil,

00:36:03.100 --> 00:36:04.700
but they shortened the war

00:36:04.740 --> 00:36:07.820
against a country
that wouldn't surrender,

00:36:07.860 --> 00:36:10.020
and that would have cost
millions of casualties

00:36:10.060 --> 00:36:12.420
- if the war had been concluded with
a land-based invasion. -Sure, sure.

00:36:12.460 --> 00:36:13.620
And would probably
have destroyed

00:36:13.700 --> 00:36:15.140
the Japanese people forever.

00:36:15.180 --> 00:36:17.140
- Yes, absolutely right.
- Is that correct?

00:36:17.180 --> 00:36:19.020
I think... yes,
you're absolutely right.

00:36:19.060 --> 00:36:22.940
If Japan had not surrendered
on August 15,

00:36:22.980 --> 00:36:24.820
- the Russians would
have come down... -Mm.

00:36:24.860 --> 00:36:27.220
...and would have taken at least
all of Northern Japan.

00:36:27.260 --> 00:36:28.620
So, we'd have ended up
with Korea?

00:36:28.700 --> 00:36:30.220
Absolutely. Korea on Japan.

00:36:30.260 --> 00:36:31.940
You would have Northern Japan,
which most likely

00:36:31.980 --> 00:36:34.220
would not be democratic,
would not be free,

00:36:34.260 --> 00:36:36.900
and then you would have
the rest of Japan.

00:36:36.940 --> 00:36:40.900
Could you, if you were being
very honne about it,

00:36:40.940 --> 00:36:42.540
- Honne.
- Honne.

00:36:42.580 --> 00:36:47.260
...say that the suffering
of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

00:36:47.300 --> 00:36:49.380
is actually
the salvation of Japan?

00:36:49.420 --> 00:36:51.220
That's why
they should be revered.

00:36:51.260 --> 00:36:53.580
- Because if... Really?
- That's how I see it. Yes.

00:36:53.620 --> 00:36:55.540
- The-the... -Are you speaking
as an American or a...

00:36:55.580 --> 00:36:58.420
No, I am... as a, as a scholar,
as a historian.

00:36:58.460 --> 00:37:00.620
- Okay. -That their
death was not in vain.

00:37:00.700 --> 00:37:02.620
It-it did help, you know,

00:37:02.700 --> 00:37:06.940
Japan maintain the nation
as it is today.

00:37:18.460 --> 00:37:22.380
With my journey
drawing a close,

00:37:22.420 --> 00:37:24.700
I have to move on
from the rebuilt devastation

00:37:24.740 --> 00:37:29.860
of Hiroshima to one
of Japan's oldest wonders.

00:37:29.900 --> 00:37:32.260
Hello, viewers, you join us

00:37:32.300 --> 00:37:35.060
on Miyajima, which is
one of the holiest islands

00:37:35.100 --> 00:37:36.980
off the coast of Japan.

00:37:37.020 --> 00:37:39.780
It is home
to the Itsukushima Shrine,

00:37:39.820 --> 00:37:42.500
or the Itsukushima-jinja,
 which is just over there,

00:37:42.540 --> 00:37:44.700
and that, or the view
of that from the water,

00:37:44.740 --> 00:37:47.700
is one of the three
great views of Japan,

00:37:47.740 --> 00:37:51.820
along with Matsushima and
the sandbar outside of Kyoto.

00:37:51.860 --> 00:37:54.740
Which we couldn't be
arsed to go and look at.

00:37:54.780 --> 00:37:56.780
Ice cream?

00:38:01.940 --> 00:38:03.900
This whole island
is a religious site,

00:38:03.940 --> 00:38:05.900
with its own special rules.

00:38:05.940 --> 00:38:09.460
No trees can be cut down
and all wildlife is sacred.

00:38:09.500 --> 00:38:12.580
Although I think Yujiro could
use a few lessons explaining

00:38:12.620 --> 00:38:15.220
- what wildlife actually is.
- Aww.

00:38:17.100 --> 00:38:18.700
No, that's a cat.

00:38:18.740 --> 00:38:20.300
- Oh, that's a cat. Sit.
- Yes.

00:38:20.340 --> 00:38:21.820
- Sit.
- He won't sit.

00:38:21.860 --> 00:38:23.620
- He's not, he's not a dog.
- Sit.

00:38:23.700 --> 00:38:25.780
He's got a great face. He's
nearly... he's completely tame.

00:38:25.820 --> 00:38:26.980
You're not really supposed
to touch them

00:38:27.020 --> 00:38:28.060
but I can touch him.

00:38:28.100 --> 00:38:29.620
- Yes.
- He doesn't mind.

00:38:29.700 --> 00:38:30.900
You're not
supposed to touch them

00:38:30.940 --> 00:38:32.980
and you're not supposed
to feed them.

00:38:33.020 --> 00:38:34.300
Pull it out of his mouth.

00:38:34.340 --> 00:38:36.220
- He's got it in his mouth.
- Oh, my God.

00:38:36.260 --> 00:38:37.860
Oh, no, no. My map, my map!

00:38:37.900 --> 00:38:39.460
He's eating my map.

00:38:39.500 --> 00:38:42.340
I think the deer is very hungry.

00:38:43.700 --> 00:38:45.300
- Deer, deer, deer.
- Looks...

00:38:47.900 --> 00:38:50.500
After an
awkward 45-minute wait,

00:38:50.540 --> 00:38:52.540
Bambi eventually pooped us
the directions

00:38:52.580 --> 00:38:53.980
to the temple complex.

00:38:54.020 --> 00:38:56.500
This place
has inspired pilgrims,

00:38:56.540 --> 00:39:00.140
artists and writers
for centuries.

00:39:00.180 --> 00:39:01.340
Itsukushima.

00:39:01.380 --> 00:39:02.860
Its-Itsukushima.

00:39:02.900 --> 00:39:04.780
- Itsukushima.
- Itsukushima.

00:39:04.820 --> 00:39:07.140
- Itsukushima-jinja. Yes.
 -Itsukushima-jinja.

00:39:07.180 --> 00:39:09.380
Uh, This place,
um, this jinja...

00:39:09.420 --> 00:39:12.140
Mm-hmm?
- ...by the sea, was built

00:39:12.180 --> 00:39:15.340
in the end of the 12th century
by Taira no Kiyomori,

00:39:15.380 --> 00:39:17.860
a powerful samurai clan
back then.

00:39:17.900 --> 00:39:19.500
- Well...
- 12th century, yes.

00:39:19.540 --> 00:39:21.780
Is he this man in the statue
that's by the harbor?

00:39:21.820 --> 00:39:24.300
- The old man.
- Who looks a bit like Patrick Stewart,

00:39:24.340 --> 00:39:26.300
actually, from Star Trek.

00:39:26.340 --> 00:39:29.060
- Oh, he did?
- Yeah, he does a little bit, yeah.

00:39:29.100 --> 00:39:30.980
Yes, so Patrick Stewart
built this place.

00:39:31.020 --> 00:39:34.100
- Right.
- The color red is really beautiful.

00:39:34.140 --> 00:39:36.260
I'd call it orange, you see.

00:39:36.300 --> 00:39:38.900
Orange? -Is... yeah,
that sort of Shintoism orange.

00:39:38.940 --> 00:39:41.820
- I'd say that was orange.
Would you call that red? -Yes.

00:39:41.860 --> 00:39:43.420
- Would you?
- Yes.

00:39:43.460 --> 00:39:45.460
Um, from the Japanese senses,

00:39:45.500 --> 00:39:47.940
we call this red.

00:39:47.980 --> 00:39:49.500
'Cause I have a car
that's officially red,

00:39:49.540 --> 00:39:50.700
but I think it's orange.

00:39:50.740 --> 00:39:52.380
It could just be me.

00:39:52.420 --> 00:39:54.420
I'll ask the cameramen
because they know about color.

00:39:54.460 --> 00:39:55.980
Is this orange or red?

00:39:56.020 --> 00:39:57.540
- Mm, orange.
- Orange. Yeah, it's orange.

00:39:57.580 --> 00:40:00.340
I-I think, I think the cameraman
Sean is color-blind.

00:40:00.380 --> 00:40:02.620
No, you're all wrong.
Japanese are all wrong.

00:40:04.420 --> 00:40:06.620
They might know
squat about color...

00:40:06.700 --> 00:40:08.140
orange...

00:40:08.180 --> 00:40:10.940
but who cares
about interior design

00:40:10.980 --> 00:40:13.580
when the exterior
looks like this?

00:40:17.420 --> 00:40:19.420
- Are you going to...
- Uh...

00:40:19.460 --> 00:40:20.860
Well, since I'm here,

00:40:20.900 --> 00:40:22.420
yes, I'd like
to just go down there

00:40:22.460 --> 00:40:27.060
and have a contemplative moment
standing under the gate.

00:40:27.100 --> 00:40:28.340
- Yes. -Although you don't
have to come, though,

00:40:28.380 --> 00:40:29.700
'cause I know you've been here
many times before.

00:40:29.740 --> 00:40:30.900
- That's okay. I'll go by myself.
- Yes.

00:40:30.940 --> 00:40:32.700
But you go and get
some ice creams.

00:40:32.740 --> 00:40:34.060
- Oh. Can I?
- Yes.

00:40:34.100 --> 00:40:35.580
- Good idea.
- Where do I go? This way?

00:40:35.620 --> 00:40:37.420
Yeah. Go straight.

00:40:37.460 --> 00:40:39.220
And don't walk in the center.

00:40:39.260 --> 00:40:40.780
- That's the pathway of the gods.
- Yes.

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Torii is the name
of the gates that stand

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as entrances to shrines
across Japan,

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and this may be the most
magnificent of them all.

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From go-karts and pachinko

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to these most ancient
of monuments,

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this leg of my trip has once
again brought home

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just how much breadth there is
to the Japanese experience.

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I'm not gonna pretend
I understand it all yet,

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but one thing I do understand
is a good bit of woodwork.

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Well, it's another fabulous
example of great craftsmanship

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from the world's best
woodworkers, the Japanese.

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Very symbolic, as well,

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and it's actually symbolic of
the great paradox that is Japan,

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because that gate, and indeed,

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the whole of that enormous
temple behind it,

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are made entirely from wood

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on an island where it's
forbidden to cut down trees.

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Hmm. Anyway,
I've written a haiku.

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"Ah, gate in the sea.

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"What does it mean?

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Way in, out?"

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End of the show. Cut.