WEBVTT 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:11.750 This was a very violent and pure evil crime. 00:00:11.816 --> 00:00:13.818 Brutally murdered 00:00:13.885 --> 00:00:16.454 and shoved under a house for 30 years. 00:00:19.457 --> 00:00:20.992 The body is mummified. 00:00:20.992 --> 00:00:21.393 The body is mummified. 00:00:21.426 --> 00:00:23.595 The skin is like rubber. 00:00:24.763 --> 00:00:27.432 We realized that we would have to use 00:00:27.499 --> 00:00:27.899 the Video Spectral Comparator. 00:00:27.899 --> 00:00:28.533 the Video Spectral Comparator. 00:00:28.633 --> 00:00:31.970 That kind of changed the course of the investigation. 00:00:32.470 --> 00:00:35.473 He says, "I'm afraid of what you might find out." 00:00:35.540 --> 00:00:37.942 I said, "You know what we'll find out..." 00:00:39.110 --> 00:00:40.845 "And I'll put you in jail for the rest of your life. 00:00:40.845 --> 00:00:42.447 You understand that?" 00:00:44.416 --> 00:00:47.352 But it never crossed my mind how this would wind up. 00:00:47.852 --> 00:00:47.952 I couldn't believe it. 00:00:47.952 --> 00:00:48.887 I couldn't believe it. 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:50.989 It was like she was waiting 30 years 00:00:51.022 --> 00:00:53.391 to tell somebody what had happened. 00:00:54.459 --> 00:00:56.061 Oh God! 00:01:38.670 --> 00:01:40.705 The year 1999, 00:01:40.772 --> 00:01:43.341 I'd been a homicide detective for about 11 years 00:01:43.408 --> 00:01:47.045 in Nassau County in Homicide Squad, New York. 00:01:47.078 --> 00:01:49.080 It was a very pleasant community. 00:01:51.850 --> 00:01:53.718 The afternoon of September 2nd, 00:01:53.785 --> 00:01:56.588 I received a phone call from 00:01:56.621 --> 00:01:59.591 detectives in the 2nd precinct, 00:01:59.624 --> 00:02:02.894 and they indicated that they thought they had a dead body. 00:02:04.729 --> 00:02:06.631 My first thought was, 00:02:06.698 --> 00:02:08.967 "What do you mean you think you have a dead body?" 00:02:09.067 --> 00:02:11.002 We have a dead body or we don't have a dead body. 00:02:13.271 --> 00:02:15.607 It turns out this was going to be 00:02:15.707 --> 00:02:17.242 one of the most interesting cases 00:02:17.275 --> 00:02:19.277 I had ever dealt with. 00:02:19.344 --> 00:02:22.013 The entire case actually took less than ten days. 00:02:35.894 --> 00:02:38.096 When we arrived there, 00:02:38.163 --> 00:02:40.832 in front of the house was a big black barrel, 00:02:40.899 --> 00:02:43.568 55 gallon drum. 00:02:43.635 --> 00:02:47.739 I spoke to the gentleman who had found it. 00:02:48.806 --> 00:02:51.576 Turned out that he was selling his house. 00:02:52.644 --> 00:02:55.580 He told me that on the previous day, 00:02:55.647 --> 00:02:58.183 the buyer of the house came by 00:02:58.283 --> 00:03:01.085 and decided he wanted to do one last walk-through. 00:03:05.089 --> 00:03:09.227 He crawled under an extension to the house... 00:03:10.295 --> 00:03:12.130 all the way to the back corner. 00:03:16.834 --> 00:03:19.370 And he said, "You have a barrel 00:03:19.404 --> 00:03:23.041 stuffed all the way in that back corner behind the steps." 00:03:25.109 --> 00:03:27.312 "I don't know what's in that barrel. 00:03:27.412 --> 00:03:29.314 I want it outta here!" 00:03:29.414 --> 00:03:32.750 So they rolled it all the way out, stood it up... 00:03:35.320 --> 00:03:39.791 And the owner said, "Yeah, we'll open it and empty it, 00:03:39.857 --> 00:03:42.493 so the garbage will take it." 00:03:42.594 --> 00:03:44.596 And that's what started the case. 00:03:49.067 --> 00:03:52.070 I went over to the barrel with my partner 00:03:52.170 --> 00:03:56.808 and there's a seal that goes around the top of the barrel. 00:03:57.475 --> 00:03:59.377 He unbolted the strap... 00:04:01.946 --> 00:04:04.082 And we opened the barrel. 00:04:07.085 --> 00:04:09.120 Oh God! What the...? 00:04:10.421 --> 00:04:12.056 The odor, 00:04:12.090 --> 00:04:14.058 the stench, was overpowering. 00:04:18.062 --> 00:04:21.199 The smell of a decomposing body is something that 00:04:21.266 --> 00:04:24.002 anyone who smells it will never forget it. 00:04:24.068 --> 00:04:26.437 It's a very, very pungent, 00:04:26.471 --> 00:04:29.807 sweet, sickening smell. 00:04:30.908 --> 00:04:35.013 Inside a barrel there is what appears to be 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:37.015 a human hand, 00:04:37.081 --> 00:04:39.350 in a... 00:04:39.384 --> 00:04:41.286 curled position... 00:04:42.854 --> 00:04:47.392 buried in a very viscous, greenish fluid. 00:04:48.426 --> 00:04:51.062 I had no idea if we were just going to have 00:04:51.095 --> 00:04:52.730 a barrel full of limbs, 00:04:52.797 --> 00:04:54.999 or if it was gonna be a full body. 00:04:57.869 --> 00:05:01.172 So an autopsy is gonna be performed. 00:05:12.050 --> 00:05:14.786 This was gonna be the day that's going to really tell us 00:05:14.886 --> 00:05:16.454 what we're dealing with. 00:05:19.724 --> 00:05:21.726 I've been to many autopsies 00:05:21.793 --> 00:05:24.095 where the body is decomposed. 00:05:24.095 --> 00:05:24.762 This body, 00:05:24.829 --> 00:05:27.265 having been closed in there for all these years, 00:05:27.365 --> 00:05:29.834 and when the air got to it, 00:05:29.901 --> 00:05:32.470 it began to decompose very, very rapidly. 00:05:37.041 --> 00:05:40.778 It was very, very tough for people who were there. 00:05:46.851 --> 00:05:50.254 The first thing that comes out of the barrel when it's tipped 00:05:50.321 --> 00:05:52.357 is a green fluid. 00:05:54.692 --> 00:05:55.760 We knew that this wasn't body fluids. 00:05:55.760 --> 00:05:56.461 We knew that this wasn't body fluids. 00:05:56.561 --> 00:05:58.996 This was something chemical. 00:06:00.998 --> 00:06:02.834 This was something that came 00:06:02.900 --> 00:06:05.002 probably with the barrel, originally. 00:06:05.036 --> 00:06:08.406 It seemed to be a dye of some type. 00:06:12.110 --> 00:06:14.579 And there was a lot of this 00:06:14.645 --> 00:06:16.748 black and white viscous material. 00:06:16.781 --> 00:06:18.583 It appeared to be plastic pellets, 00:06:18.649 --> 00:06:20.218 black and white. 00:06:23.855 --> 00:06:27.258 The body was bent in half... 00:06:27.325 --> 00:06:30.261 Hands to feet... 00:06:30.328 --> 00:06:31.929 Head to knee. 00:06:35.366 --> 00:06:37.335 The body, it mummified. 00:06:37.368 --> 00:06:40.805 The skin is like rubber. 00:06:41.773 --> 00:06:45.810 This was like something I'd never, ever experienced before. 00:06:49.046 --> 00:06:52.850 A body found in an airtight drum 00:06:52.884 --> 00:06:56.421 is going to be relatively preserved from the elements. 00:06:56.487 --> 00:06:58.322 So that will take time 00:06:58.389 --> 00:07:01.325 for the body to decompose. 00:07:02.393 --> 00:07:04.228 The tissue is not being moved, 00:07:04.262 --> 00:07:05.963 it's not being sloughed off. 00:07:05.997 --> 00:07:08.433 There are no flies laying their maggots 00:07:08.499 --> 00:07:10.701 that are eating holes into the tissue. 00:07:10.768 --> 00:07:12.069 So essentially that body 00:07:12.136 --> 00:07:13.838 is allowed to mummify in that environment. 00:07:16.274 --> 00:07:18.910 The clothing is the hint of... 00:07:18.976 --> 00:07:22.213 We're dealing with something quite a while ago. 00:07:23.881 --> 00:07:25.983 It looked like the clothing 00:07:26.050 --> 00:07:28.152 that would be from the 60s, 00:07:28.219 --> 00:07:29.954 and that's what we felt. 00:07:29.987 --> 00:07:32.256 Now we're really looking back in time, y'know, 00:07:32.323 --> 00:07:34.959 we're looking back possibly 30 years at this time. 00:07:38.362 --> 00:07:41.265 We have no idea who this person is, 00:07:41.299 --> 00:07:44.001 but we're dealing with a very small, white, 00:07:44.101 --> 00:07:45.470 possibly Hispanic, 00:07:45.570 --> 00:07:46.938 obvious female 00:07:47.004 --> 00:07:48.940 with long black hair. 00:07:50.808 --> 00:07:54.145 She has a unusual 00:07:54.145 --> 00:07:57.482 gold-rimmed bridge in her mouth. 00:07:59.550 --> 00:08:03.888 She was wearing a gold colored ring with a green stone. 00:08:10.628 --> 00:08:13.664 The cause of death is readily apparent. 00:08:13.731 --> 00:08:17.468 Her skull is crushed by blunt force trauma. 00:08:20.571 --> 00:08:23.207 The Medical Examiner determined it was 00:08:23.274 --> 00:08:26.677 seven to ten blows with a hammer. 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:30.381 Even worse... 00:08:30.481 --> 00:08:32.850 The deceased is pregnant. 00:08:37.321 --> 00:08:40.625 It was probably in the very latter stages, 00:08:40.625 --> 00:08:43.928 eight to possibly nine months, in the pregnancy. 00:08:43.995 --> 00:08:47.064 She had been brutally murdered, 00:08:47.164 --> 00:08:49.100 killing her child also, 00:08:49.166 --> 00:08:50.768 and jammed into a barrel 00:08:50.801 --> 00:08:52.470 and shoved under a house 00:08:52.537 --> 00:08:54.705 for possibly 25 or 30 years. 00:08:57.909 --> 00:08:59.844 So we looked at this as 00:08:59.911 --> 00:09:03.347 a very violent and pure evil crime. 00:09:19.864 --> 00:09:21.699 During the course of the autopsy, 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:25.603 several other items were located on or about the body. 00:09:25.636 --> 00:09:26.904 One of the things that comes out 00:09:26.971 --> 00:09:29.874 is about a four-inch green plastic stem. 00:09:33.077 --> 00:09:34.879 No thought as to what it is at this point, 00:09:34.912 --> 00:09:36.614 but it is removed and put aside 00:09:36.714 --> 00:09:38.349 as possible evidence. 00:09:39.817 --> 00:09:41.886 And at the very bottom of the barrel 00:09:41.986 --> 00:09:43.554 is a pocketbook. 00:09:48.092 --> 00:09:48.960 Inside the pocket book, 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:49.894 Inside the pocket book, 00:09:49.927 --> 00:09:52.363 there was a small address book, 00:09:52.463 --> 00:09:53.898 about three by five, 00:09:53.931 --> 00:09:55.666 that had been soaked in this fluid 00:09:55.733 --> 00:09:57.168 and it couldn't be opened. 00:09:57.201 --> 00:09:58.636 We were afraid to open it, 00:09:58.669 --> 00:10:02.673 that we would destroy whatever was in there. 00:10:02.740 --> 00:10:06.277 So we asked for our document section people to come down, 00:10:06.377 --> 00:10:08.846 and we turned these items over to them. 00:10:12.483 --> 00:10:14.118 When we initially saw the book, 00:10:14.218 --> 00:10:16.287 the real test was separating 00:10:16.287 --> 00:10:18.389 the pages without damaging 'em. 00:10:20.758 --> 00:10:23.027 One of the objectives was to see 00:10:23.060 --> 00:10:26.063 if we could decipher any of the entries in the book 00:10:26.130 --> 00:10:29.200 that would be important in identifying the victim. 00:10:30.668 --> 00:10:34.605 So the primary goal was to get the book dry. 00:10:34.672 --> 00:10:37.842 Normally, this is something that would've taken weeks to dry out. 00:10:37.875 --> 00:10:40.945 But time was of the essence. 00:10:41.045 --> 00:10:43.581 So the book was put within 00:10:43.681 --> 00:10:46.584 a forensic drying cabinet for a few days. 00:10:51.155 --> 00:10:54.358 It was going to be a painstakingly slow process. 00:10:54.425 --> 00:10:57.595 They would inform me as soon as they would get anything, 00:10:57.695 --> 00:11:00.965 but they were a lot more optimistic than I was. 00:11:09.607 --> 00:11:11.976 Early the next day, 00:11:12.009 --> 00:11:15.613 I had all the records of every homeowner. 00:11:15.646 --> 00:11:18.983 My first thought was, if you were gonna kill somebody, 00:11:19.083 --> 00:11:20.718 generally you want it as far away 00:11:20.751 --> 00:11:22.486 from you and your house as possible. 00:11:23.554 --> 00:11:27.558 So I wanted to find out about this extension... 00:11:29.126 --> 00:11:31.195 Thinking that the construction people, 00:11:31.295 --> 00:11:32.563 who have barrels, 00:11:32.630 --> 00:11:37.201 could've very easily left that there during the building. 00:11:37.268 --> 00:11:39.303 My main interest, 00:11:39.370 --> 00:11:40.771 from the get go, 00:11:40.838 --> 00:11:42.773 was the second home owner 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:44.475 who according to the paperwork 00:11:44.575 --> 00:11:47.378 had the extension done. 00:11:49.113 --> 00:11:51.749 So I asked him about the extension 00:11:51.782 --> 00:11:53.384 that he built on the home. 00:11:55.786 --> 00:11:57.588 He tells me that, 00:11:57.655 --> 00:12:00.958 when he purchased the house in 1972, 00:12:01.025 --> 00:12:02.626 that extension was there. 00:12:04.028 --> 00:12:06.130 He actually went under the crawlspace, 00:12:06.230 --> 00:12:07.865 and he saw the barrel... 00:12:10.601 --> 00:12:12.937 But the barrel was so big and heavy and cumbersome, 00:12:12.970 --> 00:12:13.771 he couldn't move it. 00:12:13.871 --> 00:12:15.339 He just left it there, 00:12:15.406 --> 00:12:18.776 thinking that it was probably just construction waste. 00:12:18.876 --> 00:12:20.144 Now... 00:12:20.244 --> 00:12:23.681 certainly I'm not taking what he says 00:12:23.781 --> 00:12:26.884 as a hundred percent truthful. 00:12:26.984 --> 00:12:28.986 But then he informed me that he purchased the house 00:12:28.986 --> 00:12:31.622 from a man called Howard Elkins. 00:12:31.689 --> 00:12:34.058 And I asked him what he knew about Mr. Elkins. 00:12:34.158 --> 00:12:36.527 He told me that he was aware that Howard Elkins 00:12:36.560 --> 00:12:38.896 owned a plastic flowers company. 00:12:42.099 --> 00:12:44.101 It immediately came to mind that we found 00:12:44.168 --> 00:12:49.006 a plastic green plastic stem and leaf in the barrel. 00:12:55.479 --> 00:12:58.382 This was very, very important. 00:13:00.117 --> 00:13:03.954 This seemingly-insignificant little piece of plastic 00:13:04.021 --> 00:13:08.559 now puts it into a person who owns a plastic factory... 00:13:08.659 --> 00:13:11.061 And he had owned the house. 00:13:11.128 --> 00:13:14.565 So now we really have a hot lead. 00:13:20.404 --> 00:13:22.406 We had Howard Elkins' name, 00:13:22.473 --> 00:13:25.042 we ran it through the DMV system, 00:13:25.109 --> 00:13:26.777 come up with a hit in Florida. 00:13:26.844 --> 00:13:29.580 Now we had his name and his address in Florida. 00:13:30.681 --> 00:13:34.251 Howard Elkins now becomes our main interest... 00:13:35.319 --> 00:13:37.855 But I can't just go down and accuse somebody 00:13:37.888 --> 00:13:39.223 and not have the answers. 00:13:39.323 --> 00:13:40.591 There's the old saying, 00:13:40.658 --> 00:13:42.693 "You don't ask a question you don't have the answer to." 00:13:42.693 --> 00:13:46.330 So I wanted to know everything I possibly could about his work 00:13:46.397 --> 00:13:49.233 before we went to see him. 00:13:56.774 --> 00:13:58.409 Early the next day... 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:03.514 I hear from our documents people 00:14:03.614 --> 00:14:05.783 that they have made some progress with that address book 00:14:06.784 --> 00:14:08.419 that we had recovered from the barrel. 00:14:11.622 --> 00:14:14.091 The book was drying a little bit more 00:14:14.158 --> 00:14:15.793 and becoming a little more stable. 00:14:17.895 --> 00:14:20.798 But the entries in the address book 00:14:20.798 --> 00:14:23.267 were generally not visible 00:14:23.300 --> 00:14:25.436 for decipherment by the naked eye. 00:14:26.637 --> 00:14:28.572 They were faded because 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:30.374 the paper fibers 00:14:30.441 --> 00:14:32.910 absorbed the bodily fluids. 00:14:34.111 --> 00:14:36.847 We realized that this was a case 00:14:36.914 --> 00:14:39.750 that we would have to use the Video Spectral Comparator. 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:45.756 The instrument is used to detect 00:14:45.823 --> 00:14:49.860 counterfeit monies and fraudulent documents. 00:14:49.927 --> 00:14:52.730 It detects changes in the inks 00:14:52.763 --> 00:14:55.566 beyond what we can see with our naked eye. 00:14:56.834 --> 00:14:57.801 With the address book, 00:14:57.801 --> 00:14:58.102 With the address book, 00:14:58.202 --> 00:15:01.238 we knew that there may be components of the ink 00:15:01.305 --> 00:15:02.940 that still remain, 00:15:03.007 --> 00:15:06.377 that we may be able to visualize in the infrared range. 00:15:08.245 --> 00:15:12.716 So you'll start with the low end of the visible spectrum, 00:15:12.783 --> 00:15:16.520 and then as you move up closer to the infrared, 00:15:16.620 --> 00:15:19.623 you'll start to see different changes 00:15:19.690 --> 00:15:21.792 in the characteristics of the ink. 00:15:24.361 --> 00:15:27.831 Most of the time we'll find a sweet spot, 00:15:27.898 --> 00:15:29.366 a particular wavelength 00:15:29.433 --> 00:15:31.335 that's most productive for us 00:15:31.368 --> 00:15:32.970 to decipher these entries. 00:15:34.905 --> 00:15:36.373 With the address book, 00:15:36.473 --> 00:15:39.376 one particular entry caught our interest 00:15:39.476 --> 00:15:43.047 because it was a number 00:15:43.113 --> 00:15:45.182 preceded by the letter "A." 00:15:53.023 --> 00:15:55.125 We didn't know what we were dealing with, 00:15:55.192 --> 00:15:57.127 but I thought right away 00:15:57.194 --> 00:15:59.229 it was a resident alien number 00:15:59.296 --> 00:16:02.766 because the victim looks Hispanic. 00:16:04.001 --> 00:16:08.639 So my partner started checking with INS immigration bureau... 00:16:08.672 --> 00:16:10.908 But this is over 30 years ago. 00:16:10.941 --> 00:16:13.744 So they let us know, in no uncertain terms, 00:16:13.777 --> 00:16:17.681 it's going to take some time to identify the victim. 00:16:19.416 --> 00:16:22.119 So, you investigate what you can investigate. 00:16:23.520 --> 00:16:26.490 Everything we're doing now is with the thought of 00:16:26.490 --> 00:16:28.625 getting information on Mr. Elkins. 00:16:29.626 --> 00:16:32.162 I certainly don't think it's an accident 00:16:32.196 --> 00:16:33.998 that this green plastic stem 00:16:34.098 --> 00:16:36.633 was found inside a barrel. 00:16:37.201 --> 00:16:39.103 On the barrel... 00:16:40.204 --> 00:16:42.373 there was a large green sticker 00:16:42.406 --> 00:16:45.109 with the initials "G.A.F." 00:16:45.209 --> 00:16:48.112 We found out that this was a chemical company 00:16:48.212 --> 00:16:50.147 located in New Jersey. 00:16:51.215 --> 00:16:55.319 So this now becomes our focal point 00:16:55.386 --> 00:16:57.221 for the next day. 00:17:07.131 --> 00:17:08.832 Early the next day, 00:17:08.932 --> 00:17:11.368 I made an appointment in New Jersey 00:17:11.402 --> 00:17:13.504 with the chemical company. 00:17:13.570 --> 00:17:15.839 I wanna show them the green fluid, 00:17:15.939 --> 00:17:18.108 I wanna show them the plastic pellets... 00:17:24.114 --> 00:17:27.051 When the detective arrived, 00:17:27.117 --> 00:17:28.852 I knew right away that 00:17:28.952 --> 00:17:31.221 the plastic was a polyethylene pellet, 00:17:31.255 --> 00:17:34.224 and it's fed into the machine that's used to 00:17:34.258 --> 00:17:36.693 injection-mold various types of products... 00:17:38.429 --> 00:17:40.397 including plastic flowers. 00:17:43.434 --> 00:17:46.070 This is after I learned that Howard Elkins 00:17:46.136 --> 00:17:48.639 owned a plastic flower company. 00:17:48.705 --> 00:17:50.641 Now I'm being told that 00:17:50.707 --> 00:17:53.644 this type of pellet is used in that. 00:17:55.245 --> 00:17:59.650 The detective produced the stack of photographs of the drum. 00:17:59.716 --> 00:18:01.318 We knew all about it. 00:18:03.153 --> 00:18:06.423 The dye that was in the drum was called "heliogen green..." 00:18:07.891 --> 00:18:12.896 At one time, that was produced back in the '60s. 00:18:12.930 --> 00:18:14.998 There was only one customer 00:18:15.032 --> 00:18:17.101 who bought product in that drum... 00:18:17.668 --> 00:18:21.638 A single company that manufactured plastic flowers. 00:18:26.677 --> 00:18:28.278 So all these items... 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:31.115 The dye, 00:18:31.181 --> 00:18:32.549 the pellets, 00:18:32.649 --> 00:18:34.017 the barrel, 00:18:34.118 --> 00:18:36.553 and the green plastic stem, 00:18:36.587 --> 00:18:39.089 they're all reflecting back to Howard Elkins... 00:18:41.125 --> 00:18:44.094 to the plastic flower company. 00:18:44.128 --> 00:18:48.198 So now let's find out about the plastics factory. 00:18:50.868 --> 00:18:52.836 When the records came back, 00:18:52.870 --> 00:18:55.572 we found out that the name of the corporation 00:18:55.606 --> 00:18:57.207 was Melrose Plastics. 00:18:58.675 --> 00:19:01.345 Howard Elkins was a principal in this corporation, 00:19:01.411 --> 00:19:03.213 it was now closed, 00:19:03.247 --> 00:19:05.382 and he had moved on to Florida 00:19:05.382 --> 00:19:07.484 with his children and his wife. 00:19:07.518 --> 00:19:10.220 We found out that he was a partner 00:19:10.320 --> 00:19:14.091 with another gentleman at Melrose Plastics, back in the '60s, 00:19:14.158 --> 00:19:16.727 and his name was Melvin Gantman. 00:19:17.961 --> 00:19:21.865 It turned out that Gantman lived near by Elkins 00:19:21.965 --> 00:19:23.433 on the east coast of Florida. 00:19:23.500 --> 00:19:25.235 At that point, 00:19:25.335 --> 00:19:27.237 there's no doubt in my mind 00:19:27.337 --> 00:19:29.239 we're going to Florida the next day. 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:39.349 The next day we got a flight. 00:19:39.950 --> 00:19:42.886 The plan was to speak to Howard Elkins. 00:19:44.755 --> 00:19:46.857 We're really on a chase now, 00:19:46.924 --> 00:19:49.393 at this point in time, to find him. 00:19:49.393 --> 00:19:49.493 at this point in time, to find him. 00:19:49.560 --> 00:19:53.030 But we decided to speak to Melvin Gantman first 00:19:53.096 --> 00:19:55.098 because we wanted to get as much 00:19:55.199 --> 00:19:57.401 insight into Elkins as we could get. 00:20:01.271 --> 00:20:04.374 We didn't know what his attitude was gonna be, 00:20:04.441 --> 00:20:07.811 but we were hopeful that he would be on our side. 00:20:10.847 --> 00:20:12.749 Gantman, we're here because... 00:20:12.849 --> 00:20:14.851 We asked him if he had 00:20:14.885 --> 00:20:16.853 a relationship with Howard Elkins. 00:20:16.887 --> 00:20:19.389 He indicated that he hadn't seen him in years. 00:20:19.423 --> 00:20:22.693 So he was willing to talk to us. 00:20:24.728 --> 00:20:28.732 We showed him a picture of the 55 gallon drum 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:31.368 that our deceased had been found in. 00:20:31.435 --> 00:20:33.070 He immediately identified it. 00:20:33.170 --> 00:20:34.905 Immediately says, 00:20:34.972 --> 00:20:37.741 "Absolutely, that's the barrel we used in my company. 00:20:37.808 --> 00:20:40.177 "There's a bung on the bottom of the barrel, 00:20:40.244 --> 00:20:44.014 and there was a heliogen green dye in the barrel." 00:20:47.417 --> 00:20:51.021 "We used it for the base of our plastic flowers." 00:20:51.121 --> 00:20:54.291 He's right on the money with everything, absolutely. 00:20:55.659 --> 00:20:57.694 And shortly after that, 00:20:57.761 --> 00:21:02.232 he had a very interesting piece of information that he gave us. 00:21:03.667 --> 00:21:06.403 He told us it was in the 1960s. 00:21:10.474 --> 00:21:15.012 Mr. Gantman was working at the plastic flower company. 00:21:15.045 --> 00:21:19.750 He recalled receiving a phone call from a landlord. 00:21:20.851 --> 00:21:24.021 He was trying to find Howard Elkins. 00:21:25.622 --> 00:21:27.658 Howard wasn't there that day, 00:21:27.724 --> 00:21:29.459 so the landlord said, 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:30.994 "Well, will you tell him 00:21:31.094 --> 00:21:33.764 "that I want him to get his girlfriend's furniture 00:21:33.830 --> 00:21:35.999 and clothing and stuff out of the apartment." 00:21:36.033 --> 00:21:38.368 "The girl is not living here anymore. 00:21:38.402 --> 00:21:41.905 "Please come and empty the apartment 00:21:41.938 --> 00:21:43.907 so I can re-rent it." 00:21:45.475 --> 00:21:47.911 So we asked him if he knew 00:21:47.944 --> 00:21:50.280 if Howard ever had a girlfriend. 00:21:51.848 --> 00:21:55.118 Gantman told us that he saw this woman 00:21:55.218 --> 00:21:58.655 that worked there together with Elkins. 00:22:00.223 --> 00:22:03.927 And he said, "She was a young Spanish girl, very pretty." 00:22:04.027 --> 00:22:05.796 She had long black hair. 00:22:05.862 --> 00:22:08.398 She had strange gold teeth. 00:22:09.132 --> 00:22:13.937 She worked with us probably in 1966 to 1967, 00:22:13.970 --> 00:22:15.772 then she left, 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:17.774 "never to be seen again." 00:22:20.844 --> 00:22:24.247 I looked over at Bob, and our eyes kind of met, 00:22:24.314 --> 00:22:27.684 like, "Can you believe what he remembers? 00:22:27.718 --> 00:22:30.320 And can you believe how important 00:22:30.354 --> 00:22:32.956 what he's telling us is?" 00:22:32.989 --> 00:22:34.958 Now we knew that Howard Elkins, 00:22:34.958 --> 00:22:36.927 who was a married man with kids, 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:38.095 was having an affair, 00:22:38.161 --> 00:22:41.264 probably with the victim. 00:22:41.331 --> 00:22:43.967 We were high-fiving one another when we left the house. 00:22:44.067 --> 00:22:45.936 We said, "We've got it. This is it, a done deal." 00:22:45.969 --> 00:22:47.471 "Let's go get him," y'know? 00:22:47.537 --> 00:22:50.374 This case is coming together. It's six days old. 00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:53.176 Y'know, 30 years in a barrel, six days, 00:22:53.276 --> 00:22:55.278 we're gonna put this away, right now, today. 00:22:55.345 --> 00:22:58.014 That's how we felt at that point in time. 00:23:07.991 --> 00:23:10.927 We're heading over to Howard Elkins' house, 00:23:10.994 --> 00:23:13.296 and we're as happy as can be... 00:23:13.363 --> 00:23:16.166 Absolutely convinced we know who did the killing. 00:23:16.867 --> 00:23:19.503 Brian and I were both very electrified 00:23:19.536 --> 00:23:21.405 by the information that we just got from Gantman. 00:23:21.438 --> 00:23:23.807 The whole thing is coming into form. 00:23:23.874 --> 00:23:26.176 It's gelling right now. 00:23:29.246 --> 00:23:30.881 This was it. 00:23:30.914 --> 00:23:33.183 This was gonna be the most important interview 00:23:33.250 --> 00:23:34.851 in the entire case. 00:23:36.620 --> 00:23:39.790 We walked up to the house, 00:23:39.823 --> 00:23:41.425 knocked on the door. 00:23:44.795 --> 00:23:46.530 Mr. Elkins... 00:23:46.630 --> 00:23:47.998 When he answers the door, 00:23:48.064 --> 00:23:50.066 I have my shield out. 00:23:50.100 --> 00:23:53.003 I told him we're from Nassau County Homicide Squad, 00:23:53.069 --> 00:23:55.839 and we are investigating a homicide 00:23:55.906 --> 00:23:57.808 that involved his home. 00:23:59.376 --> 00:24:00.911 Okay, come in. 00:24:00.944 --> 00:24:03.447 He invited us in, we had a seat, 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:05.081 we started to talk to him. 00:24:07.751 --> 00:24:09.653 So we started off, as we always do, 00:24:09.753 --> 00:24:11.188 just in conversation. 00:24:11.221 --> 00:24:12.823 There were no accusations. 00:24:13.857 --> 00:24:17.561 Started talking to him about Melrose Plastics. 00:24:17.594 --> 00:24:20.964 At this point we showed him a photo of the barrel 00:24:21.031 --> 00:24:24.734 and asked him if he recognized the barrel. 00:24:24.768 --> 00:24:26.870 He said, "No, absolutely not." 00:24:26.937 --> 00:24:29.206 I asked him, "Is this the type of barrel 00:24:29.306 --> 00:24:32.742 that you would have used in your company?" 00:24:33.777 --> 00:24:35.045 And he said... 00:24:35.111 --> 00:24:36.847 "No, never saw anything like that." 00:24:36.947 --> 00:24:38.949 We ran through the whole litany, 00:24:39.049 --> 00:24:41.117 that he had a plastics business, 00:24:41.218 --> 00:24:44.321 he said, "I never saw anything like that in my business." 00:24:44.387 --> 00:24:46.590 So we knew he was lying at that time. 00:24:46.690 --> 00:24:49.125 And the company name... 00:24:49.159 --> 00:24:50.961 I indicated that we knew 00:24:50.994 --> 00:24:53.263 that there was a dye in the barrel, 00:24:53.330 --> 00:24:56.967 and that the dye was called "heliogen green..." 00:24:57.000 --> 00:24:58.802 Told us he never heard of it. 00:24:58.869 --> 00:25:00.270 No. 00:25:00.337 --> 00:25:03.507 When he denied that, it was like... 00:25:03.540 --> 00:25:06.610 "This is gonna be tough. He's not gonna go for anything." 00:25:06.643 --> 00:25:07.811 But then he surprised us, 00:25:07.878 --> 00:25:09.279 'cause we asked him about if 00:25:09.346 --> 00:25:11.248 he ever had a affair with anybody... 00:25:12.983 --> 00:25:14.584 Yeah. 00:25:15.986 --> 00:25:17.587 And he said he did. 00:25:21.157 --> 00:25:24.261 He indicated that it was a very, very short affair, 00:25:24.294 --> 00:25:25.896 and she left work, 00:25:25.996 --> 00:25:29.099 she stopped working there, so it was the end of it, 00:25:29.165 --> 00:25:30.734 and that was it. 00:25:30.834 --> 00:25:32.202 We asked him point blank, 00:25:32.269 --> 00:25:33.737 "Was she pregnant when she left?" 00:25:33.837 --> 00:25:36.640 - No. - "Absolutely not." 00:25:36.673 --> 00:25:38.108 It was so insignificant 00:25:38.174 --> 00:25:39.943 that he didn't remember her name, 00:25:40.010 --> 00:25:41.545 he couldn't describe her. 00:25:41.578 --> 00:25:44.281 It was just like smoke, y'know? 00:25:49.019 --> 00:25:52.656 Now we got to the point where we literally told him, 00:25:52.756 --> 00:25:54.658 "Look, we're not here by accident. 00:25:54.691 --> 00:25:58.128 "We've been doing this case for five or six days now. 00:25:58.194 --> 00:25:59.829 "Everything points to you. 00:25:59.863 --> 00:26:01.298 "Lemme tell you right now, 00:26:01.398 --> 00:26:03.333 that barrel comes from your business." 00:26:04.568 --> 00:26:06.202 "No it doesn't." 00:26:07.571 --> 00:26:09.573 Now comes the moment of truth. 00:26:09.606 --> 00:26:11.308 I said to him, "Okay", 00:26:11.341 --> 00:26:14.044 "there was a dead girl found in that barrel, 00:26:14.144 --> 00:26:15.879 "and she was pregnant. 00:26:15.946 --> 00:26:19.516 "I wanna take a swab from the inside of your cheek, 00:26:19.583 --> 00:26:23.219 "and I'm gonna match up the DNA to that fetus. 00:26:23.253 --> 00:26:25.221 "If you don't match... 00:26:25.322 --> 00:26:26.890 you walk." 00:26:31.161 --> 00:26:32.729 No. 00:26:32.796 --> 00:26:35.065 He says, "I watch too much television." 00:26:35.165 --> 00:26:36.733 He said, "I know you guys 00:26:36.800 --> 00:26:38.702 could do all kinds of stuff with that." 00:26:38.735 --> 00:26:40.437 He says, "I'm not gonna do that." 00:26:47.010 --> 00:26:48.979 And then lo and behold... 00:26:52.349 --> 00:26:53.917 The phone rang. 00:26:56.753 --> 00:26:59.623 It was his wife calling, and she was on her way home. 00:27:03.193 --> 00:27:05.195 At that point I knew... 00:27:05.261 --> 00:27:08.131 There was not a doubt in my mind 00:27:08.198 --> 00:27:09.833 that he was the murderer, 00:27:09.899 --> 00:27:11.768 and I knew he knew we knew. 00:27:15.372 --> 00:27:17.741 When he got off the phone, he said, 00:27:17.841 --> 00:27:20.677 "Look, that was my wife. She's on her way home. 00:27:20.744 --> 00:27:23.279 "I don't want you here when she gets here. 00:27:23.313 --> 00:27:26.216 "We have a lot to discuss. 00:27:26.282 --> 00:27:27.851 I want you to leave." 00:27:31.021 --> 00:27:32.222 Now we have no choice. 00:27:32.288 --> 00:27:34.024 I didn't have a warrant, 00:27:34.124 --> 00:27:37.027 and I have no arrest powers there. 00:27:37.060 --> 00:27:39.095 I stood up right next to him. I stood right in front of him. 00:27:39.129 --> 00:27:41.231 I said, "I'm gonna tell you something, Mr. Elkins." 00:27:41.297 --> 00:27:42.932 "We're gonna leave. 00:27:42.966 --> 00:27:45.602 "But I'm gonna get a warrant for your DNA. 00:27:45.669 --> 00:27:46.936 "I'm gonna get your DNA, 00:27:46.970 --> 00:27:48.338 "and I'm gonna match it up to that 00:27:48.405 --> 00:27:50.440 "dead baby in that dead woman, 00:27:50.507 --> 00:27:52.809 "and I'll put you in jail for the rest of your life. 00:27:52.876 --> 00:27:54.678 D'ya understand that?" 00:27:57.614 --> 00:28:01.985 And he just, imperceptibly... A nod. 00:28:03.586 --> 00:28:05.522 And that was it. 00:28:05.922 --> 00:28:08.224 Now we knew he was the 00:28:08.224 --> 00:28:10.527 guy that ended her life... 00:28:12.595 --> 00:28:17.434 and let her spend 30 years in a barrel under a house. 00:28:18.468 --> 00:28:20.070 I was absolutely sure 00:28:20.170 --> 00:28:22.605 I would have enough to get an arrest warrant, 00:28:22.639 --> 00:28:25.442 but it never crossed my mind how this would wind up. 00:28:39.723 --> 00:28:41.558 We spent the entire next day 00:28:41.624 --> 00:28:45.295 on the phone with our district attorney 00:28:45.361 --> 00:28:47.630 because I don't have arrest powers 00:28:47.664 --> 00:28:49.833 out of state without a warrant. 00:28:50.867 --> 00:28:53.303 But the next day was the Jewish holidays, 00:28:53.369 --> 00:28:56.773 and a lot of the people are gonna be off because of the holiday. 00:28:56.840 --> 00:29:00.043 So he says, "You may have to wait until Monday." 00:29:00.110 --> 00:29:02.011 We'd done everything we could do. 00:29:02.045 --> 00:29:04.380 We weren't gonna get a court order that day. 00:29:04.481 --> 00:29:08.551 So we basically had free time 00:29:08.551 --> 00:29:10.653 for Friday night, Saturday, and Sunday, 00:29:10.653 --> 00:29:12.689 which we were planning to go fishing. 00:29:13.757 --> 00:29:15.058 Nothin' else to do. 00:29:15.125 --> 00:29:17.427 It looks to us like a done deal 00:29:17.494 --> 00:29:18.862 at this point in time, 00:29:18.895 --> 00:29:21.698 and we're really, really happy about it. 00:29:21.765 --> 00:29:24.434 So I said to Brian, "Y'know, we oughtta call the office, 00:29:24.501 --> 00:29:25.969 let 'em know what's goin' on." 00:29:26.069 --> 00:29:27.804 Meaning our office in New York. 00:29:27.871 --> 00:29:31.341 So he went to the phone and he called the office. 00:29:33.510 --> 00:29:36.713 The detective there who he was speaking to says, 00:29:36.780 --> 00:29:39.149 "Do you guys have Howard Elkin?" 00:29:40.250 --> 00:29:41.885 "What do you mean, we have Elkins?" 00:29:41.918 --> 00:29:43.987 "No, of course we don't have him." 00:29:44.053 --> 00:29:46.556 He says, "Well, Palm Beach Sheriff's Department 00:29:46.623 --> 00:29:49.459 just called here looking for you guys 00:29:49.526 --> 00:29:51.728 to see if you had Howard Elkin." 00:29:51.795 --> 00:29:53.530 What? 00:29:53.630 --> 00:29:58.434 It turns out Mrs. Elkins was reporting her husband missing. 00:30:03.473 --> 00:30:06.009 So we went to the Sheriff's office. 00:30:06.109 --> 00:30:07.544 As we were arriving, 00:30:07.577 --> 00:30:11.381 a deputy came outside and said, "Are you guys from Nassau?" 00:30:11.447 --> 00:30:13.082 He said, "Look, they found him." 00:30:17.453 --> 00:30:19.389 Earlier that afternoon, 00:30:19.455 --> 00:30:22.392 Howard Elkins went to the local Walmart, 00:30:22.458 --> 00:30:26.229 purchased a 12-gauge Mossberg shotgun... 00:30:32.035 --> 00:30:34.204 And he went to a neighbor's house... 00:30:36.105 --> 00:30:38.842 He went into the garage... 00:30:39.342 --> 00:30:42.245 And he went into the back seat of the neighbor's car... 00:30:45.748 --> 00:30:48.718 And took his own life with the shotgun. 00:30:59.963 --> 00:31:01.898 I couldn't believe it. 00:31:02.398 --> 00:31:04.868 We went from the high of thinking 00:31:04.934 --> 00:31:06.402 we're gonna make the arrest, 00:31:06.436 --> 00:31:08.838 and all of a sudden, he's dead. 00:31:10.540 --> 00:31:12.876 I was disappointed, because I wanted him to go to jail. 00:31:12.976 --> 00:31:14.277 I was disappointed because 00:31:14.344 --> 00:31:16.713 I wanted to arrest him and put him on trial. 00:31:21.351 --> 00:31:22.785 He pulled the rug out from under us 00:31:22.819 --> 00:31:24.454 by committing suicide. 00:31:25.521 --> 00:31:27.457 We were deflated that night. 00:31:32.595 --> 00:31:36.266 The only bonus that we had in the whole case at that time 00:31:36.332 --> 00:31:39.435 was the fact that we now had Howard Elkins' blood 00:31:39.469 --> 00:31:41.804 that we could do a DNA test on. 00:31:47.010 --> 00:31:49.145 If we're trying to establish 00:31:49.178 --> 00:31:50.880 if an individual is the father of a child, 00:31:51.080 --> 00:31:53.449 what we're looking for are these.. 00:31:53.516 --> 00:31:55.084 We call them alleles. 00:31:55.118 --> 00:31:57.654 These are the different choices of DNA 00:31:57.720 --> 00:31:59.656 that we can find. 00:31:59.722 --> 00:32:02.926 If the father, or the person we believe to be the father, 00:32:02.992 --> 00:32:05.128 doesn't have that particular allele 00:32:05.194 --> 00:32:06.663 that's present in the child, 00:32:06.729 --> 00:32:08.564 then they cannot be a contributor. 00:32:08.564 --> 00:32:10.633 If they do have the allele 00:32:10.633 --> 00:32:12.568 at all the locations we're looking at, 00:32:13.036 --> 00:32:17.440 we can calculate the likelihood of that profile 00:32:17.507 --> 00:32:20.443 coming from an unrelated individual. 00:32:20.510 --> 00:32:22.879 And it's that calculation that gives us 00:32:22.979 --> 00:32:25.882 something we call the paternity index. 00:32:27.150 --> 00:32:31.688 I was certainly hopeful that they were going to match up the DNA 00:32:32.355 --> 00:32:35.391 with the fetus in the deceased. 00:32:35.591 --> 00:32:39.862 They would inform me as soon as they would get anything... 00:32:39.963 --> 00:32:41.597 But it's going to take some time. 00:32:49.539 --> 00:32:51.541 We flew back to New York. 00:32:51.641 --> 00:32:54.077 So I returned to work on Monday... 00:32:56.112 --> 00:33:00.350 And the package from the immigration services came. 00:33:00.717 --> 00:33:03.186 And now we know who our victim is. 00:33:09.058 --> 00:33:11.327 Reyna Angélica Marroquín. 00:33:15.131 --> 00:33:17.834 She emigrated in 1966 from El Salvador. 00:33:19.435 --> 00:33:21.871 She was a beautiful young woman, 00:33:21.904 --> 00:33:24.107 and just days before during the autopsy 00:33:24.107 --> 00:33:25.808 and we looked at her, 00:33:25.875 --> 00:33:27.977 it was a shriveled-up, mummified thing 00:33:28.011 --> 00:33:29.445 that you would never think 00:33:29.512 --> 00:33:31.347 was this beautiful vibrant young woman. 00:33:34.417 --> 00:33:38.521 So we have now reached a point in this investigation 00:33:38.554 --> 00:33:41.457 where we have a million questions still about, 00:33:41.524 --> 00:33:44.160 "How did this happen? When did it happen?" 00:33:44.193 --> 00:33:47.163 So finding someone who could answer 00:33:47.263 --> 00:33:51.667 90 percent of our questions was an absolute cherry on top. 00:33:54.437 --> 00:33:57.273 Earlier that afternoon the document team told me 00:33:57.340 --> 00:33:59.075 that they'd come up with quite a few numbers 00:33:59.075 --> 00:34:02.645 in the phone book of the deceased. 00:34:06.616 --> 00:34:10.853 We were able to continue to work on the address book 00:34:10.887 --> 00:34:14.390 while Brian was out in the field conducting his investigation. 00:34:15.858 --> 00:34:17.894 We were deciphering the pages 00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:21.397 and perfecting our methodologies. 00:34:21.431 --> 00:34:24.867 We found a lot of names and phone numbers. 00:34:25.968 --> 00:34:29.072 Once we provided them with that information, 00:34:29.138 --> 00:34:31.541 that kind of changed the course of the investigation. 00:34:34.444 --> 00:34:36.412 So we started calling the numbers... 00:34:38.147 --> 00:34:40.349 But all these numbers come from the '60s. 00:34:40.450 --> 00:34:41.717 We're sorry, the number you have dialed... 00:34:41.784 --> 00:34:43.519 So they all came back. 00:34:43.619 --> 00:34:47.090 It's been disconnected, or you've dialed incorrectly... 00:34:49.459 --> 00:34:54.097 But my partner takes one number and dials it, 00:34:54.163 --> 00:34:55.731 and a person answers. 00:34:59.068 --> 00:35:00.636 That is shocking in itself. 00:35:03.739 --> 00:35:06.676 He said, "Where does this number go to?" 00:35:06.742 --> 00:35:08.478 She said, "It goes to the garment district 00:35:08.544 --> 00:35:09.946 in New York City." 00:35:09.946 --> 00:35:13.316 "How long have you been there?" "I've been here for 40 years." 00:35:15.218 --> 00:35:19.322 She identifies herself as Kathy Andrade. 00:35:19.388 --> 00:35:21.557 So without saying anything further on the phone, 00:35:21.657 --> 00:35:24.393 we make an appointment to see her the following day. 00:35:26.829 --> 00:35:28.431 That next day, 00:35:28.464 --> 00:35:30.700 when I heard Kathy's story, 00:35:30.766 --> 00:35:32.201 I couldn't believe it. 00:35:32.301 --> 00:35:34.137 It was too good to be true. 00:35:36.839 --> 00:35:39.509 It was like she was waiting 30 years 00:35:39.575 --> 00:35:42.211 to tell somebody what had happened. 00:35:55.324 --> 00:35:58.794 We went into the city the following day 00:35:58.861 --> 00:36:01.697 with the full intention of speaking with Kathy Andrade 00:36:01.731 --> 00:36:04.700 at the garment center. 00:36:04.734 --> 00:36:08.604 We showed her the picture of Reyna Marroquín 00:36:08.638 --> 00:36:11.908 and she went completely, immediately to tears. 00:36:15.645 --> 00:36:17.914 She was a friend. 00:36:18.014 --> 00:36:20.183 Kathy she referred to as "my angel." 00:36:20.216 --> 00:36:22.351 Her middle name was Angélica. 00:36:22.451 --> 00:36:24.020 She then recited the story to us 00:36:24.086 --> 00:36:25.988 that literally answered... 00:36:27.623 --> 00:36:30.359 90 percent of the questions we had. 00:36:33.462 --> 00:36:35.898 It was November, 1968. 00:36:37.099 --> 00:36:40.403 She and Angélica would talk almost every day. 00:36:40.469 --> 00:36:42.071 At one point, 00:36:42.104 --> 00:36:45.841 Angélica tells her that she's pregnant, 00:36:45.942 --> 00:36:48.477 and she's pregnant by her boss 00:36:48.511 --> 00:36:50.580 at the plastic flowers company. 00:36:52.148 --> 00:36:53.482 He was gonna take care of her, 00:36:53.516 --> 00:36:55.218 they were gonna get married, 00:36:55.284 --> 00:36:58.654 and he put her in an apartment in Hoboken, New Jersey, 00:36:58.688 --> 00:37:01.390 which is just across the river. 00:37:01.424 --> 00:37:04.126 She informed us that a period of time goes by 00:37:04.160 --> 00:37:07.230 and she gets a panic call. 00:37:07.296 --> 00:37:10.132 Kathy says, "I get a call late one day from Angélica, 00:37:10.166 --> 00:37:12.602 and she's crying on the phone." 00:37:13.669 --> 00:37:15.271 "I ask her what the problem is, 00:37:15.304 --> 00:37:18.341 and she says she did something very foolish." 00:37:20.943 --> 00:37:24.614 So Kathy says to Angélica, "What did you do?" 00:37:24.680 --> 00:37:26.616 "I did a terrible thing. 00:37:26.682 --> 00:37:29.819 "I called my boyfriend's wife 00:37:29.885 --> 00:37:34.624 "and I told her that I was pregnant with his baby, 00:37:34.690 --> 00:37:36.259 and now he's gonna kill me." 00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.898 So Angélica said, "Will you please come and help?" 00:37:57.647 --> 00:38:00.916 When Kathy arrived, 00:38:00.983 --> 00:38:05.121 the apartment door opened slightly. 00:38:09.992 --> 00:38:11.927 She wasn't there... 00:38:15.464 --> 00:38:17.667 But the table was set for two. 00:38:19.468 --> 00:38:22.872 The food was still warm. 00:38:22.938 --> 00:38:24.674 Nothing was amiss. 00:38:32.248 --> 00:38:34.483 And she waits for several hours, 00:38:34.517 --> 00:38:36.485 and she doesn't come back. 00:38:40.222 --> 00:38:42.625 So she left and went back to New York, 00:38:42.692 --> 00:38:44.293 and then she called every day... 00:38:47.129 --> 00:38:49.031 hoping that the victim 00:38:49.065 --> 00:38:51.033 would be there and answer the phone, 00:38:51.067 --> 00:38:54.036 and then after a week, she just... 00:38:54.070 --> 00:38:56.038 gave up. 00:38:58.708 --> 00:39:01.644 She said, "I never heard from her again." 00:39:06.415 --> 00:39:10.186 She was genuinely, genuinely upset 00:39:10.252 --> 00:39:13.823 at knowing that, 00:39:13.889 --> 00:39:16.292 probably that day, 00:39:16.359 --> 00:39:18.894 Angélica was killed.. 00:39:18.994 --> 00:39:22.665 And I know, without her having to say it, 00:39:22.732 --> 00:39:23.833 wondering if there was 00:39:23.899 --> 00:39:25.835 something more she could have done. 00:39:28.070 --> 00:39:29.071 It was amazing. 00:39:29.105 --> 00:39:31.540 The case was backwards, y'know? 00:39:31.574 --> 00:39:33.943 We were looking for all this evidence in the beginning 00:39:34.009 --> 00:39:35.644 and we didn't have anything, 00:39:35.745 --> 00:39:37.446 so the whole thing came together at the end, 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:40.116 and then the DNA was the... 00:39:40.182 --> 00:39:42.318 That was the icing on the cake. 00:39:48.391 --> 00:39:50.192 At the end of the case, 00:39:50.226 --> 00:39:52.495 I got a report from the lab corps 00:39:52.561 --> 00:39:54.964 on the DNA match-up. 00:39:57.600 --> 00:40:03.105 The results came back with 99.93 percentage 00:40:03.472 --> 00:40:07.877 that Howard Elkin was the father of the fetus. 00:40:07.943 --> 00:40:10.513 And that was basically case really closed, 00:40:10.579 --> 00:40:12.581 nailed shut at that time. 00:40:18.687 --> 00:40:21.123 So in less than ten days, 00:40:21.157 --> 00:40:22.591 we solved the case 00:40:22.691 --> 00:40:26.128 that in actuality was more than 30 years old. 00:40:36.605 --> 00:40:38.607 I'm proud of the work 00:40:38.607 --> 00:40:40.609 that we all did on this case. 00:40:40.676 --> 00:40:41.744 I'm proud that we solved it. 00:40:41.744 --> 00:40:42.511 I'm proud that we solved it. 00:40:42.578 --> 00:40:45.681 But it does leave a slight empty feeling. 00:40:48.584 --> 00:40:50.519 I think there was certainly, 00:40:50.586 --> 00:40:52.721 through our investigation, 00:40:52.788 --> 00:40:55.424 there was justice brought for Reyna. 00:40:55.524 --> 00:40:58.527 Although we didn't arrest him, and try him, 00:40:58.594 --> 00:41:00.629 and put him in jail, 00:41:00.696 --> 00:41:02.698 Howard Elkins went to his grave 00:41:02.798 --> 00:41:04.700 knowing that he was caught. 00:41:09.371 --> 00:41:11.307 He'd led his life. 00:41:11.340 --> 00:41:13.509 He watched his family grow up. 00:41:13.609 --> 00:41:16.312 He had 30 years with his wife and his kids... 00:41:22.551 --> 00:41:25.354 And she was buried 00:41:25.421 --> 00:41:28.791 in a barrel under a house for 30 years, 00:41:28.824 --> 00:41:30.860 and no one, with the exception 00:41:30.860 --> 00:41:32.895 of Kathy Andrade, missed her. 00:41:36.966 --> 00:41:39.669 There was one final piece that my documents team 00:41:39.836 --> 00:41:43.206 was able to recover from Reyna's address book, 00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:46.476 and that was a small, square piece of paper 00:41:46.509 --> 00:41:48.111 that had been folded. 00:41:48.144 --> 00:41:50.213 It was in the very back page, 00:41:50.246 --> 00:41:53.850 and it said, "Please don't be mad I told the truth."